Full: Pastor Damina w/t Ricky "I was Wrong on..", True Salvation, Fake visions to Heaven (Interview)
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024
- Pastor Abel Damina meets Ricky from Church reality check to discuss his journey from a false prosperity preacher to finding the truth Jesus of the bible, and how it made him see the real And true salvation the bible speaks of, can we lose salvation or not, and also Dr Abel Damina talks of a false vision of Jesus his wife had that shows why we should be careful of people claiming to see visions going to heaven or hell.
this interview was done same time with the Centtwinz's interview and I am glad we covered the two differently. Do make time to see the one they did at this link • Why He is called the '...
15 mins into the interview and I am in awe. The Word of God is beautiful, and it's even more beautiful to watch someone who has an understanding of the Word of God. Thank you, brother Ricky, for this interview.
You better me it's only 10nin🎉
This episode will go down in history as one of the best, I truly appreciate this🙏
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I am so grateful for Church reality check. All along I have believed that salvation is something that I should maintain and if I don't I will lose it and been thrown to hell. 😢 I thank Jesus Christ for gracing me with salvation, for His unconditional love and His mercy that endures forever
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And I am glad you came to understand this reality.
Please read your bible and ask the holy spirit for guidance. We are have not assured of entering heaven because no sinnful and unholy person will enter heaven. Which means we can loose our salvation by living in sin. And remember this there is no coming back from death, death forever seals your faith!
Romans 8:11
[11]But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. That's the assurance of salvation the baptism of the Holy Ghost
Just as the devil has human agents that he uses in his kingdom to destroy and deceice man, so does the living God has his messengers that he has choosen and sent to warn his children. Yes one does loose his salvation because the bible says you cannot be luke warm, its either you hot or cold!
The challenge in Africa is that we have become so accustomed to oppression that, even when handed the key to our liberation, we often reject the notion of freedom. This man is sharing a message akin to that of Christ, which is why many who heard Jesus still struggle with belief. It takes time to truly absorb and comprehend these teachings.
The Word of God is so sweet ❤thank you Brother Ricky for inviting this Man of God
To those who follow and love Jesus Christ be blessed as we are fed spiritual, thanks brother Ricky for this interview 🙏🙏🙏
I love how his wife served as the point of accountability . Her questioning the old doctrine played a big part in turning things around. She is definition of the good thing a man finds when he finds a wife.
I pray that my brothers here find such wives . Not these ones who come on social media and defend false prophets as this shows that they lack discernment and a woman without discernment is disaster waiting to happen.
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Craziness! Wasn't he supposed to be directed by the Holy Spirit?
I’m discipled just by listening to this interview, Dr Damina amazing teacher God bless him🙏🏾
I Love Love Dr.Abel Damina. Thank you Sir for the Word of God. Many will be Delivered from Fear of loosing their Salvation that we have been dealing with here in South Africa.Bro. Ricky, uncle Solomon.you guys are blessing to us. South African especially. we thank you for this message.
Nothing beats unity. I was impressed to see uncle Sol here Ricky, well done🎉🎉
Wow, I've learned a lot in this interview. I love how this Pastor teaches. Simplifies everything. He's definitely a Teacher of high Quality
3 great men who are standing for the truth. Keep preaching.
This will teach you the importance of studying the Bible yourself. "My people perish becouse of the lack of knowledge"
You are blessed, Dr. Damina!
Please continue to preach the Word ... continue to stand up for the truth that was delivered to the Church!
❤❤❤❤ Jesus, The Word of God and God. This is what I subscribed for. Thanks leadership
I literally watch every interview and teachings....of Dr abel damina......an exegetical teacher of the scripture ............a brother from 🇿🇲 zambia.
To God be the glorly...what an episode😮im ready to start all over again.i thank u Dr Damina and brother Ricky i am supper blessed
WHAT I LIKE ALSO IS THAT HE CAME TO CHURCH AND APOLOGIZED THAT HE WAS PREACHING THE WRONG GOSPEL, I LIKED THAT HE DID THAT BECAUSE MOST PASTORS TODAY ARE ARROGANT THEY CAN'T COME OUT TO SAY I HAVE PREACHED THE WRONG GOSPEL.
Wonderful Dr Damina Abel as usual 🤝🤝👏👏👏.
How I wish you come to Uganda and we offer you national television to teach because we are tired of these charlatans and gullibles
I truly admire how God is working through him (DR Abel Damina). Ever since he repented and committed to seeking Christ and His truth, his message has been incredibly timely and impactful. I’d love to invite him to one of our brethren meetings someday.
Thank you leadership for inviting Dr Damina 💥🔥🙏
Dr Abel Damina is teacher of the word..he interpret it well
Test the spirit
@@lehlohonolomohlolo76 We are not talking about another-spirit here. 2 Cortithians 11:4 KJV
If you are in another-gospel, with another-salvation you will definitely operate in another-spirit.. So the question is that spirit you are checking, is it of God almighty !!..
How do one test spirit, just quoting what you do not understand. Read the full context where that scripture you quoted is and you will come back here to apologize. Anyone that does not abide in teaching about Jesus Christ, not just calling his name. Explain him from the old testament to bring conviction to men's heart is not of the true spirit. This is what test the spirit means. Spirit is known from the message and if the message is only Christ, the spirit will be Christ. If what you here is self help, prosperity, the spirit is mammom. Instead of you to carry your Bible and intelligently check what he is saying whether it is as written, you are here shouting test the spirit. Is the spirit soup that one should test with his tongue? Come put from your stubbornness man. If you don't like hearing about Jesus then you may not be born again.
@@UNITYOFFAITHTV can I like again 😊
@unityoffaithtv you finish work on top that guy head, see schooling 😂😂😂
WoW! Thank God for Dr Abel Damina 🙏 Indeed scripture interprets scripture.
Leadership Ricky thanks for this awesome teaching. I 'm so edified 🙌
I love this episode, so much wisdom of the scriptures. I'm learning🫶
Dr Abel Damina, i thank you for the Gospel of GRACE, you're my mentor, i pray that God bless and protect you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ AMEN AND AMEN 🙏🙌😍❣
Truth be told hope south African pastor will wake up
It's about time Sir
South African will never be the same again
Ricky you are a real soldier, a real watchman. There's a reason why the LORD chose you. You love your brothern, you're fighting for us and you care for souls. The world needs more people like you, who refuse to sit back and watch as souls get lost while called by God🙏🏼
Real soldier ya eng tota
Jehu arrived in Jezreel. Jezebel, having heard what had happened, put on eyeshadow, arranged her hair, and stood looking down at the street from a window in the palace. As Jehu came through the gate, she called out, “You Zimri! You assassin! Why are you here?”
2 Kings 9:30-31
So you want to say the body of Christ can use make up to make themselves attractive the things that were used by Jezebel
I keep saying that the Bible is not an all inclusive book. That's why it is a "Holy" Bible. Mind the word "Holy"....i am so blessed by this interview
The Word of God is beautiful indeed. This didn't feel like it's an hour, it went very quickly. I am inspired to go deeper into the Word of God, and may the Holy Spirit help us rightly divide as we study.
Thank you for the invitation of this man on your platform
May God keeps you safe for me and my generation and generations to come
Well done Ricky...you are a good work...thanks to Dr Damina and uncle Solomon.
The problem is we want to hear what we want to but not the truth brother Enigma is right
What inigma is teaching is not the word bro. God does not speak to him, only demons speak to him
Brother enigma teaches lot of things that are not in the Bible but lead us to heaven because the Bible on its own it has lot of loopholes that is why most of the people will always justify what they do and what suit them....
@@mohauhlalele3637please help us with those loopholes as our teacher of loopholes.😅
Loopholes? .. so you don't believe that the bible is FULLY SUFFICIENT?? Then you'll be washed away by demonic doctrines. Stick to the bible and you won't go wrong
@@christinakumalo1260 if Demons can speak what is stopping God from speaking
WOWWWW!! 🔥This was so powerful and enriching for the body of Christ. Thank you, Ricky for this enlightening interview with Pastor Damina. God bless you as you do this most important work for the Kingdom of Light. 🙏🏾
"In sound Bible teaching, we stay with context. Because the Bible is a contextual material. Where there is pretext, postext that interpretes the context." So profound❤
Best interview, best content, thanx leadership
I love this man of God so much 💙🙋
His consistency of the message of CHRIST blows my mind.
Am always unlearning to Relearn.
God bless you Dr Abel
This is a powerful Podcast wow, and I love Pastor Abel Damina
A real joy to see Dr. Damina here!
I dont read the bible regularly but today i felt compelled to read the whole book of colossians and i came by a verse where Paul says we should have wisdom and understanding so that we may not be deceived by fine sounding arguments. Colossians 2 vs 2-4. That said i believe what brother enigma is saying
I really need this teaching from the word of God
🇬🇦 Mbolo/Salama/Hi👋🏿, this interview is🤯... The true Gospel is about The Christ🔥🔥🔥,eish Jesus🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿!!!!!!!!!
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Bathong leadership, i keep repeating, teplaying. This is good news yamampela. True gospel. I love the teachings
Now i know Brother Enigma is powerful for people to call for international back-up😅
There is nothing powerful about Enigma, he appeals to people who are lazy to read and study their bibles.
I see that, too.
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For lying?
Great interview, do more interviews like these🎉🎉🎉
Ricky and your team And uncle Thanks for hosting Dr Damina❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you leadership for this interview, it's very rich. May God bless you both 🙏 ❤️
Wow!!Wow!! Thank you brother Ricky for bringing this man of God. We're truly blessed and now some scripturs are making sense. God richly bless you🙏
Now we are listening to the gospel of JESUS ❤
Very matured conversation
Gloryyyyyy🙌🙌🙌🙌I’m blessed and thank you Dr. Abel and Ricky n Team 🙏🙏Great Grace Abound 🙌
This is by far THE BEST PODCAST/INTERVIEW I've watched in a long time!❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This what a needed interview!! Dr. Damina preaches Christ and nothing else! Yes in some subjects people cannot understand him but it takes time to understand somethings
be careful Christ and error
Test the spirit.
Satan masquerade as angel of light
@@NazoMakoko We aren't dealing with those who are serving another-jesus who always into another-gospel 2 Corinthians 11:4 KJV
@@lehlohonolomohlolo76 We aren't dealing with those who are serving another-jesus and are engaging in another-spirit who always into another-gospel 2 Corinthians 11:4 KJV
Plz calm down.
When you are born again we can have a better conversation.
Well said
What is the doctrine of modest mr Rick i thought you'll ask great teacher of the word there , should we look like the world wear fake things undermine the unique creative of Almighty God. i went to few Bible schools and the last one i went, for the first time i learned about outer holiness from the same bible you read before brother Enigma comes. and since then the fear of the Lord and became so strong in my life. i realized everything thing in should reflect the kingdom. Lord Jesus said heavily will should be done here on earth, we should not conform to the standard of this world but should separate ourselves from this world.
I guess you also believe that God hates all the people born from 2000 to date 🤔🫣
Well articulated interview. Thank you
Great conversation Ricky, thankyou brother❤ I will search this gentleman now because of this interview
Teaching is making us understand it better than those who tell us about spiritual every day
Wow leadership👏👏👏
People are so comfortable in the Babylonian system that they will do or say anything to defend it, even the devil quoted scriptures to make a point
You are free to dispute what the people are saying based on the scriptures.
This interview is awesome 🎉,
There is only one gospel. The gospel of holiness. God is love but let us not forget that he is also a hater of sin. EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW
Gospel of holiness is not the gospel of Christ
Stick on your gospel of holiness we will stick on gospel of Christ
And you have no scripture reference to support your assertion. What foundation of scripture is your statement standing on ?
Amen Hebrews 12;14-15 without holiness no one shall see God
@@christinakumalo1260"Be ye holy as I am holy"
Abel Damina is the Boss. Thank God for hs life. Thank u Ricky. Atleast we dnt doubt our salvation now. We know the truth that sets us free❤
Very insightful, may the Lord bless you both
I love how much people have exposing themselves by trying to expose brother Enigma. If you’ve been reading your Bible right you can prove the things brother Enigma is saying
This is the best episode ever, unveiling In Christ realities. When an absolute truth is unveiled, its easy to see lies.
Thank you brother Ricky for this interview
Dr. Damina laid a fundamental foundation for my faith and understanding in Christ!
Anyone who doesn't abide in the gospel of Christ doesn't have God in him❤
The best episode I've watched from your podcast thus far. Thank you brother, God bless you
Good teaching,I need to listen again on salvation . Thanks Ricky!
Scripture interpret Scripture 🙏🙌😍thank you my mentor 👏👏
What a wholesome conversation. I enjoyed this interview and I have gained sooo much!!!
Ricky got this right!I love the man Damina haz become 😊
Church you reality you doing the things 👌🏽🤗
Tricky subject : But it becomes clearer when you look at it from the Old Testament angle.
Think about this: All Israelites were circumcised, meaning they received justification. All of them ate the Passover lamb, meaning they were born again. All of them passed through the Red sea, meaning they were baptised. All of them ate manna, meaning they partook of the body of Christ. All of them drunk water from the Rock, meaning they were filled with the Holy Spirit. All of them were sprinkled with blood, meaning they had a covenant with God.
But, not all of them entered the promised land. Some died because of unbelief or rebellion.
From all these; what do you think? Can you lose your salvation?
Thank You Bro Ricky all good in this broadcast.! Praise be to the Lord!!!
Lol leadership this video deserves your reaction again 🙌
Thank you so much, Ricky, for such an amazing interview with Pastor Damina. I am in love with it
I love this man....Ricky You have Outdone Yourself. Thank you. This was an awesome discussion
Birds of the same feathers flock together
We thank God for this wonderful moment
I have gain a lot, thank you brothers. Dr. Damina consider being interview by qualified men and women of God to preaching.
Questions and answers help us to assimilate the undiluted word of God you shared.
Thanks again.
Thank you Ricky! We are spiritually fed. Many thanks 🌹. Be blessed
Thanks for this interview Ricky, it was an eye-opener for sure and Dr Damina is very knowledgeable on scripture and it got me reflecting on my understanding of salvation. I tend hold a more orthodox view on salvation and not a "once saved always saved (OSAS)" belief and I believe it is the more scriptural view, not because I'm "stubborn" or "traumatized". I think OSAS only makes sense in a Calvinistic perspective, after all the belief did start with John Calvin during the Reformation in the 16th century. While it does focus on predestination and election by God, it does undermine human Freewill, making salvation almost like an "Irresistible grace" from God.
I think you misunderstand the alternate side when it comes to salvation, you also conflate the belief in "loss of salvation" with legalism, which isn't the same thing. Justification is by faith in Christ alone and not our works lest we boast (Eph 2:8) so legalism is certainly false, the works we as believer have or do are not independent from our faith but secondary to it, the good works believers do is because they're saved not so that they can be saved. The good works proceed from genuine faith.. "Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar?. You see that *his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did* " James 2:21-22. Salvation isn't lost like an item on a shelf lol, it's lost by willingly living in a state of unrepentant (mortal) sin, a gradual hardening of their hearts by "sin’s deceitfulness" (Heb 3: 13); for example living in adultery or fornication without confessing and repenting from that sin (Gal 5: 20-21; 1Cor 6:9). Committing such sins does not mean that such a person was never saved or else these warnings wouldn't be written to churches/believers as Christians are not incapable of sinning ..."If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us" 1 John 1:8
At 39:22 Dr Damina stated that "He cant lose you, you cant lose Him", is that biblical though? I would agree that Christ cannot lose us because He is faithful and a keeper of His word but we can lose Him because we are not always faithful or we would not be instructed to remain in Him in John 15 and that *"If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned."* John 15: 6. I think its not so much that we cannot lose Him but that we will not lose Him, our abiding in Christ and accepting of the free gift of salvation is an act of love - an act of the will.
At 39:50 He also quoted Eph 1: 13 "And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit" which seems to place salvation only in the past tense at first glance but a parallel verse in John 10: 27-29 "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand" indicates that the sheep are those who believe (present tense), who are continually faithful. There are many other verses to suggest this but I think it shows that the assurance of eternity is for those who have believed and _continue_ to believe.
If OSAS is true how do we make sense of the branches that do not remain in the Vine who are cast into fire (John 15:6)? or of parable of the ten virgins, where the five foolish who ran out of oil and were shut out (Mat 25)? The wicked, lazy servant who hid his talent and was thrown into darkness where there'd be gnashing of teeth (Mat 25) ? The blotting out from the book of life and the lukewarm Christians in the Church of Laodicea whom God would spit out from His mouth (Rev 3)? The salt that loses its saltiness and is thrown out (Luke 14: 34)?
These is just my interpretation of Scripture, I could be wrong though but this is a wake-up call for a deeper study of Scripture...
Joel 2:28 And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.
Joel 2:29 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days.
Oom Rick. THANKS for hosting Dr Damina. When listening to him, one can hear there is something radically different and more authentic to what he (as an African Pastor) articulates vs what all (rather most of them) of my African brothers are preaching. The Gospel is sweet to the soul of those whom the Father has given to the Son.
I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT ABEL DAMINA'S MESSAGE IS MIXED WITH TRUTH AND ERROR. EVERY TIME I LISTEN TO HIM, I HEAR TRUTH AND ERROR. THAT IS WHAT ABEL DAMINA'S MESSAGE IS.
Lost soul
You need to be born again. Abel speaks the scriptures, everything is from the word
@@christinakumalo1260 HIS MESSAGE IS MIXED WITH TRUTH AND ERROR FOR EXAMPLE IF HE SAYS ONCE SAVED YOU CANT LOSE YOUR SALVATION EXPLAIN TO ME THESE SCRIPTURES 2 CHRONICLES 15:01-02, JOHN 15:1-6, REVELATION 3:16, AND 2 TIMOTHY 2:12?
@@christinakumalo1260 IF YOU BELIEVE IN ABEL DAMINA TEACHINGS THAT SAYS ONCE SAVED YOU CANT LOSE YOUR SALVATION EXPLAIN TO ME THE FOLLOWING SCRIPTURES PLEASE, MAYBE I'M NOT BORN AGAIN 2 CHRONICLES 15:01-02, JOHN 15:1-6, REVELATION 3:16, AND 2 TIMOTHY 2:12?
He is a liar and deceiver.
Wow. I have always believed that the gospel is Jesus Christ only nothing else should be added. It is complete in him who is the father son and the holy spirit. Thank you lord for reveling yourself again to your children
Guys dont be deceived by damina's sweet tongue remember he is still a human like let us all press further and seek the face of the Lord....My brothers and sisters, what good is it for people to say that they have faith if their actions do not prove it? Can that faith save them? Suppose there are brothers or sisters who need clothes and don't have enough to eat. What good is there in your saying to them, “God bless you! Keep warm and eat well!” - if you don't give them the necessities of life? So it is with faith: if it is alone and includes no actions, then it is dead.
But someone will say, “One person has faith, another has actions.” My answer is, “Show me how anyone can have faith without actions. I will show you my faith by my actions.” Do you believe that there is only one God? Good! The demons also believe - and tremble with fear. You fool! Do you want to be shown that faith without actions is useless?
James 2:14-20So then, as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without actions is dead.
James 2:26 Do not deceive yourselves by just listening to his word; instead, put it into practice. Whoever listens to the word but does not put it into practice is like a man who looks in a mirror and sees himself as he is.
James 1:22-23Sin must no longer rule in your mortal bodies, so that you obey the desires of your natural self. Nor must you surrender any part of yourselves to sin to be used for wicked purposes. Instead, give yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life, and surrender your whole being to him to be used for righteous purposes.
Romans 6:12-13
What are you on about? Is the man telling people not to follow our Lord Jesus Christ?? He is teaching well from the scriptures. I see nothing wrong. Why don't you challenge his teaching based on the scriptures???
@mightylove spend more time in the word and prayer then you'll be able to see clearly..
@@olefilempete8792 Is that how you avoid dealing with the matter at hand?
He didn't say you should not have action in your faith. Maybe if they had enough time they were going to address your concerns. He said surrender fully to God. When you've surrendered those things that you're concern about the Holy Spirit will guide you to it. As I quote him ' If people believed that the blood of bulls could forgive their sins for a year, how much more is to believe that the blood of Jesus will save us forever?
@@zoliswamangeni4935 the word of God say submit yourself to God resist the devil and he will flee...Paul said we should offer ourselves as living sacrifices to God meaning that we should live for the purpose of doing what is pleasing to God..The Lord said we shall be Holy as He Himself is Holy...many people tend to focus more on the loving side of the father forgetting that He is a righteous God. Christ died for us so that we should be saved not that we should continue living in sin the word even says that Be obedient to God, and do not allow your lives to be shaped by those desires you had when you were still ignorant.
1 Peter 1:14....
There's no new revelation yes i agree, what if the interpretation of many preachers are errors like he was before and how do we know now that he's not in another error. there are lots of questions i have about the doctrine of permitting worldly lifestyle in the Kingdom. do not love the world and it's own things but we see many followers of Christ falls in love with lust of the flesh
Brother Ricky, please try and invite Sister Erika or Pastor Adam Aston . And maybe you might not be haunted by Enigma . The pastor you're discussing with did not meet the Lord in a vision. How can you dispise your brother here in South Africa and bring someone far from Nigeria to come and down talk to your brother Enigma. Well, as the Scriptures say. Some people their sins have already gone ahead of them and are waiting for them at the judgment seat, others their sins follow them. 1 Timothy 5:24,25.
So, pastor Damina believes in the "once saved. always saved" doctrine?
Thanks Leadership, especially on the part about salvation
No one said people must sin or promote sin.. This interview dealt with the issue of salvation in it's context and how to understand scripture through it's context
I had a similar dream/vision like the one Mrs Damina had. I saw a Jesus in the " the dream transitioned to an open vision and that Jesus was in my bedroom standing on my bathroom door. I got up from bed and walked towards him. As I was facing down about to bow and worship him, i saw a smirk 😏 on his face and immediately discerned this was not the Lord Jesus. Immediately, I rebuked him and said, "The blood of Jesus is against you, Satan." He immediately attacked me, and ther😂e was a spiritual wrestle which I couldn't even describe. He was very powerful. The Holy Spirit was purely guiding my thoughts and words. I discerned that he wasn't a transaction with me. I then got inspiration to say, " I am fully sold out to Jesus," and he vanished.
NOTE: I have seen Jesus in dreams and open visions before and after this encounter.
Beautiful episode ❤
(He came to fix South Africa)
I was happy to give an ear, t hear, to listen and to understand especially his trajectory into ministry from the first wave Pentecostalism (Assemblies) then was drawn to the second wave pentecostals (charismatics).
Now I understand him, his understanding of Christology is unambiguous and what distinguishes true and false
It really takes a real sense of humility to come before the congregation to break all ego. This is the type of 🇳🇬 we want in 🇿🇦
fix SA ?WHY HE DONT FIX NIGERIA?ALL THESE RUBBISH PASTORS ARE WITCHES
The experience that Dr Abel Damina's wife had must be what Enigma is experiencing, another jesus
Exactly, another Jesus
Oh u mean he see the other JESUS WHO DEMANDS HOLLINESS TO HIS PPL
@@sicelomasuku5554 Another Jesus demands to control, intimidates and manipulates the children of God.
@sicelomasuku5554 did he taught about holiness only? Again does he know what is holliness to begin with?, You need to be very careful
God was teaching her!!
Thanks!
Leadership I'm so thankful... So grateful
Powerful interview. God bless you brother for host Dr Abel Damina to pour his not us revelation knowledge.
We really appreciate you brother Ricky, May God bless you. We needed this interview ❤
Rolivhuwesa leadership munna u na thalutshedzo ya khwine hoyu .vhanzhi vha do bonyolowa .🙏
Two Holy Spirit filled sons of God in one room, how epic