@@sloxman8937 I guess that's just a US problem. At least here in most European countries most newer doors (bought in the last 20 years or so) you won't be able to easily kick in. No matter what lock is used.
@@sloxman8937 If you don't have bars on your windows for insurance reasons, crime in your area is so low that it's hardly worth talking about. In places where there are bars on the windows, evidence that picking, raking and bumping attacks are common are as easy to spot as a stroll through the neighborhood -- you can tell whose been broken into in such a fashion by glancing at what sort of lock they have installed.
The lock is made by a company called Level, and they have responded to LPL trying to tout that you can lock and unlock your door remotely and they skirted the whole issue that you can easily break in. They even added that you can see if door is unlocked when you're away, but that only means that somebody is already in your house when you're not home. I think the C-Suite at Level would make good politicians, dancing around the true problem with their product.
I also read their response it does not make sense. According to their statement, 38% of breaks in are unforced; therefore, it is more important to make sure you can lock your door remotely. Apparently, 38% is more significant in their world than 62%; we are dealing with mastermind engineers here.
With our lock you'll know hours before getting home you were robbed. The mitigation of mental anguish is priceless. Also next months new packaging "as tested and approved by the lock picking lawyer". After all LPL did say he loved the design.
LPL gave a solution for those who want a lock that works with iphones (without a delay since these don't require internet communication to validate known phones like other wifi locks). Change the cylinder. So people just need to recommend a better cylinder that fits. Those that want better security and use iphones can swap the cylinder. I for one give apple credit for allowing customizations of the physical lock, that is usually not their style. I suspect it is a "feature" that will be prevented in future revisions of the product. If you can swap the cylinder, then they won't be able to sell "higher-end" ones with better cylinders that have extremely high markups for profit.
so Level has responded to this video, their response is basically "We didn't make it secure because only 4% of B&Es involve lockpicking, it's a convenience device not a security device"
I could sort of accept that point of view if the attacker needed to know skills. The skills needed to open this lock can be learned in minutes. And it might burn your home down if you get a more physical attack (or just slam the door with the bolt out). It's an interesting concept, though.
But why kick in a door when there are likely many other weak points on your average home? If you are a SWAT team and you need speed to get a team of officers into an area quickly (so that the suspect doesn't destroy evidence or whatever) then yeah ... you need to bust a deadbolt. But if you're a burglar in the middle of the night, a hammer to a 1/16" panel of glass is going to be way easier and still get you inside.
To be fair, it is true. There are lots of misconception about house breaking : the first one is when it happen. 55% take place in the afternoon, and only 20% at night. More than 50% are done without breaking anything : thieves first try to open all doors then all windows (38% of home intrusion happen through windows both with and without breaking). And over 95% use brute force to open a door. Overall, lock picking should be the least of your worries.
@@LeSarthois Great explanation on how to sell gum as a hasp for $300. The next step is how to sell combustible uniforms to firefighters, since most of them suffocate rather than burn.
@@FrankyRain I'm not saying they are right in doing that, just that technically (and Lockpicking Lawyer pointed that out himself in his videos) that lockpicking is indeed the least of your worries when trying to secure your home.
Level's response is just the icing on the cake. The amount of publicizing that this lock has received now is just cementing its flaws, as if a thief didn't know how to enter a house with this lock before, now they do.
@@coopercummings8370 you have a point but when you can open the physical lock using only items you trash picked from the can in front of an auto parts store, that’s tough to compete with
Did I hear correctly, that it is sold in Apple Stores? Wow. Who could of expected Apple to sell overpriced *censored* products? Yes, I called Apple products *censored*, because you can't even fix them outside of EU sooner, than later (ouside of EU, because EU is hammering down law, that mandates all consumer electronics, phones etc. to be fixable with access to spare parts for if I recall correctly up to 10 ish years. Don't quote me on that, though).
@@1989SupraGuyFIN they are already legislating that that phones have to have a replaceable battery and use USB-C connector. Seems a lot of rechargeable stuff is going the same way, my rechargeable computer mouse has a replaceable USB-C lead too.
It's in line with the Apple policy of producing garbage at a super low cost, then sell it overpriced with a stupid tax. 1k+ phone that costs 3hundos, same as this. Going by how it looks, operates, i'm betting this is a cheapo china special, upscaled with a few better quality features. I wouldn't use this to secure anything but a toilet door, and i wouldn't buy this for more than 100$
My favorite hardware store is not too far from LP's P.O. box, and it only has Master Lock pad locks. I fantasize about the day I overhear LPL's voice in that store and find myself wanting to warn the store clerks not to let him near the lock isle, as they would surly all jump off their pegs and run away.
@@1989SupraGuyFIN Heh, should have thought about that. I definitely favor right to repair. So, when LPL mentioned the possibility of replacing the core, I should have immediately recognized that the warranty might be voided if somebody did.
You know, it's one of those situation where if they are serious about the convenience aspect VS picking attacks, then they should at least 1- advertise it as such, and 2- sell it at a much lower price point, like maybe 10$... I would love to see what kind of hack resistance the programing has. That in itself could be a backdoor to you entire home network.
@@louisjutras1 maybe someday there is a "Lock Hacking Lawyer". 😄 LPL could partner with some Whitehackers and make it a challenge, who opens it first, the picker or the hacker 😄
Such a shame too. For $300+ dollars, you could buy an Abloy or a Medeco lock that nobody would be picking anytime soon. But should we expect more from Apple? I say no. They've always sold nice shiny looking things at 5 to 10 times the price it should be. I'm just here reading the comments trying to find some apple fanboy defending the company but I've yet to find one. This makes me optimistic that Apple's marketing department is either becoming ineffective or people are finally starting to wise-up.
@@markjune3027 it's apple homekit compatible not from apple themselves, if like saying your chinese 30 dollar lights are google assistant compatible so they're made by google. Still, being sold on Apple's website it's disappointing, but no hate to Apple the lock *does* do what it needs to do ie. work perfectly with homekit
As someone who had to break into his own house, thank you for bringing up Kick Resistance. It is shockingly easy to break most home locks that way, or at least get past the lock by breaking the door frame.
That really depends on where you live. In the Netherlands our front doors generally have steel doorframes. You very likely will not be kicking these down.
@@paulelderson934 I almost sure it's true for all over Europe. Only americans can purchase $100/$200/$329,99 locks and install it into cardboard door. Oh, and don't forget 2 meters tall windows beside that door.
I used to break into places legally for a living, my front door has a "kick strip" protecting the lock and the door frame is re-enforced with studs resin fixed into the brickwork, lock is a Chubb Ava which is a bit dated now an pickable but only with specialist tools and knowledge which is good enough for me.
When breaking and entering there's a few things to consider. Is the window open, is there a spare key hidden around, is there a back door that's easier to get through, would anyone notice if you threw a brick in the back window. Is there a garage door that's easier to get in. The lock and doorframe can be made of the most advanced exotic materials and have special designs to insure pick resistance, that won't stop someone who wants in.
@@Martink9191 This is so true. Apple phones suck badly and don't even get me started on their walled garden that limits what you can do with the device.
ill bet the electronic hardware is just as bad, and god only knows how faulty the programing is. it just looks really nice when it's in the packaging and that's what Apple is all about.
Just saw a report on Techradar from Level respondingbto this video, saying they aren't worried about lock picking because very few house break-ins are by picking. That is an incredible response.
And few Chinese PSU's catch fire but that doesn't mean you should buy a product with cheap components. It might end up costing you more eventually. To be quite honest though. They're not concerned that you'll get robbed, they've already done it.
Lpl is a beast no one i mean NO ONE's lock or anyblicking invention is safe from him. . I appreciate his work and his humble attitude most important his honesty. . .keep it going lots of love from MAURITIUS 🇲🇺
@@cris_j Meh, still depends on application. If it’s a door where you need to allow a high amount of temporary access, it’s hard to beat the convenience of an electronic lock that allows time limits and remote reprogramming. As for kicking it in, that depends entirely on the construction of the door, not the lock
Capitalism, chapter 1: you don't have to sell things you have at the cost price. You try to milk your customers as much you can, optimising the profit.
For more than 10 years I've played around with locks trying to pick them with little to no success until I started watching you and Bosnenbill's videos. now I'm getting better at it but still a novice. I was successful using a city rake to open an SFIC Best Lock Lock style deadbolt in less than three seconds, I was blown away..thanks LPL. Much respect from a fellow Marylander.
Rake is super powerful tool, I was surprised how easily many office locks can be unlocked with wave rake. And sometimes faster and easier than with the real key!
Level, the company that makes this lock, just replied to a news outlet that the security of the lock isn't really that important because people use other ways to get into the house. What a joke.
As soon as I heard this was something from the Apple store I had expectations, and this exactly met them. High tech, slimline, very aesthetic and almost completely useless at it's supposed basic function.
It also has one of the most distinguishing feature, it is above and beyond the reasonable price. Though I am not sure if this is also repair "ex girfriendly" like other Apple products, i.e, it is better get a new one than to fix the broken one.
@@anthonyobryan3485 What I was ACTUALLY referring to was LPL praising the lock's design hiding the electronic components from outsider view, the battery placement, the quality of the thumbturn, and the easily-replacable cylinder. To be honest, I do not know enough about lock mechanism terminology to identify what part of LPL's commentary can be translated as "looks really good".
@@bvd7517 You could have said "Apple sells a product…", been accurate, and told the same hackneyed joke. What's worse? The "fanboy" (who's writing this on an Android smartphone), or the knee-jerk reactionary parroting a lame joke incorrectly?
I'd love to see how strong the hollow bolt is, and also a teardown of the cylinder to see the pins. It would also be interesting to discover what sensors it has (if any) and if they can be tricked somehow.
Indeed; compare to the bold on a real lock that costs hundreds, like the high-end Multilock. Contrast on the left: bolt resists hacksaws in multiple ways and annoys the attacker; to the right: explodes after just starting the saw through with a common hacksaw blade.
@@JohnDlugosz considering i can snap batteries in half with my bare hands (and i'm about as muscly as she-hulk before the cgi) i can't see anyone much past ten years old needing to do more than kick it but yeah, a hacksaw is gonna make a mess of that in seconds!
As someone that previously worked for Apple Inc in B2B development, as normal it's all about style, looking good is priority and a very distant second is substance and function. This is why I no longer work there and the last Apple product I purchased was an iPhone 5 back in 2012 and I have no intention of purchasing anything else any time soon.
I used to be a sucker and bought every Apple product I could, so stupid I feel like such a fool,, they really don't care they just see customers as dollar symbols, but they pretend that they do everything for their customers. I haven't bought a product from them in about four years and I'm the same I don't intend to
He already uploaded a video were it was just a fluke. Can't remember which video, but it was a "challenge lock" or something along those lines. If I remember correctly he only got it open ones.
@@purelogarithm Maybe, but if they sell it on the Apple store, it's a tackit endorsement. And for almost 400 bucks, that's a hell of an endorsement for something that offers basically no security. Unless that deadbolt is enforced by unobtanium, it being hollowed out is a ludicrous design flaw. Add to that if the battery gets ruptured, you're looking at a housefire.
@@mattstanford9673 I disagree. They sell lots of products. I don’t consider just being a reseller much of endorsement if it’s a technology company when you look at a lock. Now of it was a company that sold quality locks I would.
@@purelogarithm I don't think it's a super relevant endorsement in terms of product specialties, but it's still an endorsement. Apple has to specifically decide to put that product on their store, it's not the same as Amazon putting their 748th deadbolt in their database.
The wave rake!!! And the bump!!! Those are like 75 year old known vulnerabilities! This shows again that technology companies and lock companies aren't the same thing--even there there are terrible lock companies. Looking at you ML
Even though LPL makes a living doing these videos the truth is that vanishing few home burglaries involve lock picking. It might be something like 1/2 of 1% of home entry is via lock picking and in those cases it's probably a sophisticated thief. So for the vast majority of cases making the lock easily picked saves the homeowner a lot of time and money when they lock themselves out and need a locksmith to come open the door. If the lock can be wave raked it's going to be a lot cheaper than if the locksmith has to burn through 3 drill bits and replace the whole lock.
Level sells just the Bolt version (it's just the insides there), and you can put your own lock hardware on the outside of the door. Only downside it the Bolt doesn't have Apple Key capability. But it does have Homekit support as well as a wireless keypad. Both of those combined give me an awesome setup!
The customers are Apple people - they're not interested in the details, just how shiny it is and it says "Apple" on the box, or works with their iphone (yes, I realize apple didn't make this, but it's selling into the same customers / same ecosystem)
@@gorak9000 i disagree, but everyone is entitled to their opinions. This specific lock has some nice features but two big security concerns both of which were identified. Most other “smart” locks available are even worse for security (other than August smart lock which uses your existing deadbolt).
@@1slyboy To which they then attempted to defend their product and in the meantime dodge the actual concern by praising the less important part of the "lock" which is supposed to be (somewhat) lock-picking resistant. I laughed when I read it.
I'd be really interested to see your approved or recommended locks for each different category. Like what smart door lock would you actually use, what padlock for a shed would you use, what Euro-cylinder would you use for your own front door etc etc
The closest you’ll find to a recommendation would be a lock that doesn’t have trivial bypasses and also takes him a little while to pick. Video length can be an indicator, but not always. There’s also the phrase “probably good enough for the street” that you can listen for.
Wow I was just looking for a video on this lock from you about 2 hours ago. One thing to note, you can buy just the electronics/ smart deadbolt portion from Amazon for $173 and use your existing locks, or purchase a more secure lock. That, of course, doesn’t change the hollow dead bolt weakness that you pointed out, which I’m glad I learned about here in your video.
Somehow I missed this video when it was first posted - glad I found it while researching this lock. I also didn't know about the "battery in the bolt" aspect - that seems… Less than optimal. But our front door is a "french door" style dual doors that just have little bolts that go up and down on the second door, so we're already not exactly highly kick resistant. I might get one and just replace the cylinder with a higher security one.
Very true. I'd rather have my house or flat robbed out of everything inside than burned. Belongings can be relatively easy bought again if you have money from insurance, but getting a new place to live is a totally different story.
This battery isn't a fire hazard. No lithium that burns in contact with water, and it has a puny amount of energy. The big issue is how weak the hollow bolt is.
@@random_n looks like a standard Duracell to me. Just one of their smaller ones. (I stand corrected it does say lithium ion the battery.) Missed it the first time.
I'd love to see, someday, LPL crafting his own pick-proof lock! 😍 It would be epic! He knows every vulnerability of locks, so he can be smart enough to help creating a lock that would be quite difficult to pick. We all know the perfect lock is impossible to create...
The one issue with pick-proof locks, is that if you lock yourself out, it gets increasingly difficult and expensive to have someone pick it for you - or replace if unable to pick it. And on average, locking yourself out by mistake is far more common than being robbed
I’d like to see a tear down of the lock with change out of pins and perhaps entire core. This along with kick resistance would allow you to see if the unit is convertible into something useful / useable.
The absolute best additional feature you can add to a 5pin core lock to increase its security is a warped door. It is difficult to pick a keyhole while leaning bodily on your belt to put tension on the doorknob and when you add that warp to a deadbolt you're talking a MONSTER of a click-over.
Thank you for this video. I’d love to see you test more of these locks, although I expect it’ll be about the same. I’m VERY interested in the results of the kick testing. Level is already trying to spin these results, lol
Thanks for doing this review. I'd heard about this lock and checked out the "reviews" and none of them seemed to care about whether the lock provide good security. It was all about how well it interfaced to the apple world. As to the exorbitant price, apple fanboys would feel that they were being cheated if they didn't overpay for the product.
The original Level Lock reuses the existing lock so it's completely covert. You can add it to whatever lock you've already got so even if you're renting you can still smartify your lock.
smartify - if that's not in the dictionary already, i reckon it soon will be. of course, purists might prefer smarten or even smartenise but i don't- smartify it is!
Level has responded, they basically said that in the real world, lock picking isn't a significant threat compared to leaving the door unlocked or leaving keys under the mat.
That's what they all say. Until it becomes easy to spot people deep in the Apple ecosystem because they use a particular type of lock, and match that to a particularly easy method of picking. At least their design is relatively obscure to the casual observer.
They ain't wrong, but If I'm dropping over $300 on a lock then it better be at least mildly difficult to pick for those rare sophisticated burglars. If I'm only worried about deterring casual thieves then I'll just buy a cheap lock.
My understanding is that the bolt is certified at the highest standard for home locks, so the battery in it shouldn't be an issue. Definitely concerning that it can be picked so easily though! Would love to see a video showing *how* to replace the cylinder.
I don't like Masterlock junk any more than he does but showing how terrible high priced products are so poorly designed and made is a far better use of his time, talent and fame and I really applaud this use of his channel. The other thing he does is expose Amazon picks as cheap and shoddy and too few people stand up to them. Please keep up the good work.
Level also sells just the internal bolt and so you can provide your own lock, so technically you could add the Bowley lock to it. Curious how Level’s bolt compares to Bowley’s level 3 bolt
That's why the regular level lock is a better buy from a security point of view. It use your regular lock and key. Which means that the security is as good as your regular, existing lock
I'd love to see a kick test on that thing. That hollow bolt looks flimsy as heck. Not only that, but it has a battery inside the bolt, which will get mangled along with the bolt.... I'd be interested to see what becomes of that, especially if it's a fully charged lithium battery.
Love these videos! But note that this product works with Android, Apple or Amazon Alexa. Its actually only $249 on the Level website and if you want the guts only, it $199. It appears in the video that this uses a Schlage key (with Schlage cylinder) so replacing your existing Schlage dead bolt guts with this would be pretty simple and you get to keep your same key. But as many have said, LET’s SEE THE KICK TEST! :)
Serious question - why does anyone want to see a kick test? If I wanted to break into a home covertly to maybe rob someone, I would definitely not be kicking in the front door. I'd bring a hammer and smash out any one of the 1/16" glass windows accessible to me - many of them often right next to the door itself. Maybe I'm missing a use case here, but busting a deadbolt only seems like a necessity if you're a SWAT team and you need to get a dozen agents into a space within seconds.
@@dougtoombs9195 I think the point is to test the lock for one of its key functionalities: securing an entry. Picking aside, would this lock be able to resist a brute force attack? Any acceptable lock should be able to resist a kick. Not every intruder is there to be covert; maybe it's a home invasion robbery. Or maybe just an abusive partner trying to get in the house.
There are two different but similarly named products - the Level Lock and the Level Lock+ (with Home Key Support). The latter is an Apple Store exclusive.
Hopefully you'll respond to Level's claims that lockpicking accounts for only 4% of break-ins so it doesn't matter how easy it is. They seemed to claim that the ability to see when your lock has been opened by any means, mitigates the already low risk of picking. The types of homes that have a $300 smart lock might have a higher incidence of picking. Stats such as the quoted 4% might be lower because it is an average across all demographics. In poorer neighbourhoods picking is probably very rare but in more wealthy areas the burgers are probably more likely to be targeting specific houses and planning their entry and exit more carefully. Also, if you have multiple people living in your home you probably don't check everytime the door is unlocked. The only thing I would say is that people who have such a lock are more likely to have security cameras as well.
absolutely! I agree that we'd need to see the demographics, and I would add, the study(or studies) itself. there may be some bias not being taken into account, such as funding.
Hope this video goes viral. These companies need to be held accountable when they design a product so terrible especially when it’s sold for a premium price. Hope they get very little sales and design version 2 more robust.
Don't be naive, LPL has been trolling master lock for how many years? What did they change? You can learn about things like that and simply avoid them. I much rather pay $100-$300 for a Medeco lock than this one.
Considering that you can use it with other locks and cylinders, I'd really like to see the bolt's strength tested. That always seemed like the weak point to me. Even if it can resist a kick, it seems like it would be easy to cut through.
There are 2 versions of the level lock. this one comes with the deadbolt part, but the other one uses your house's existing deadbolt hardware and just replaces the aprt in the door.
I also looked at the battery placement and it's going to fold against a kick in pretty short order. What you have there is a thin wall pipe made out of that looks to be plain steel because the battery is so large. The proper way to make this would be an internal battery and a USB C charging port, making it a very small hole drilled down the center of a solid steel shaft (as long as it's less than 1/4 of the overall diameter, it's effectively still solid) OR, put the battery under the inside handle. You'd have to unscrew it to replace it, but the knob itself looks almost tall enough to fit a battery inside. And there you don't really need kick resistance.
If the deadbolt of this lock is a decent thickness and made of steel, then it should perform as well as as most deadbolts out there. Most deadbolts out on the market while solid are made of zinc alloy. Not exactly the strongest material. That's why some have a hardened steel pin in the middle because zinc alloys are easy to cut through. The reason the actual average deadbolt looks shiny is that they are chrome plated. Not because they are steel.
@@Tony-pq3xv A hardened steel tube is still much easier to get through than something solid. The path for the charging cable needs to be as tiny as possible.
just FYI, you don't have to purchase the lockset trim, they are compatible with many off the shelf cylindrical deadbolts. With that you can actually keep the style that you have currently and have the option for a keypad (by level!)
Apple headquarters: shit people are going to think that we’re like MasterLock but more expensive. Some Apple employee: we shouldn’t have worked with them in the first place.
I think it would've been worth mentioning that because it is a smart lock, even if you were to pick it open, it would then send a message to the user that the lock had been manually opened. So while it is pickable, you can't pick most smart locks without at least being notified that it was unlocked.
So can security systems can do that for so much cheaper. Also, security cameras! All you have to do is just set up a motion detecter connected to a camera and set it up to your phone. Might be 100-200, and you get the benefit of actually seeing what's going on. But hey, overpriced garbage is Apple's specialty.
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Kick resistance testing, YES, please! *The Lock Kicking Lawyer*
LOL
We'd get to see his foot too!
Underrated comment lmaooo 😆
Size 11 “bump key”
Bahahahaha all you brilliant sobs
I would love to see a video where LPL just front kicks a door.
I mean that is ultimately why lockpicking is somewhat of a dying art. Most people today would just go for a low skill destructive attack
@@sloxman8937 I guess that's just a US problem.
At least here in most European countries most newer doors (bought in the last 20 years or so) you won't be able to easily kick in.
No matter what lock is used.
@@sloxman8937 If you don't have bars on your windows for insurance reasons, crime in your area is so low that it's hardly worth talking about. In places where there are bars on the windows, evidence that picking, raking and bumping attacks are common are as easy to spot as a stroll through the neighborhood -- you can tell whose been broken into in such a fashion by glancing at what sort of lock they have installed.
@@Jehty_ There is also the part where most doors open outward, and on newer doors they tend to have warded hinges too.
"Ok folks this door is absolute shit"
Random child crying and yelling, holding his terrified mother in the background
LockPickerLawyer has been helping people avoid overpriced locks for years, all while being humble. Thank you
He should demonstrate kick resistance on that lock in the next video
@@onestar8796, I'm pretty sure a drunken stumble into the door after a Friday night might be enough to gain entry.
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Lock body by Apple, cylinder by Master lock 😁
His videos are truly quite helpful. Although his name is "Picking," not "Picker."
The lock is made by a company called Level, and they have responded to LPL trying to tout that you can lock and unlock your door remotely and they skirted the whole issue that you can easily break in. They even added that you can see if door is unlocked when you're away, but that only means that somebody is already in your house when you're not home. I think the C-Suite at Level would make good politicians, dancing around the true problem with their product.
I also read their response it does not make sense. According to their statement, 38% of breaks in are unforced; therefore, it is more important to make sure you can lock your door remotely. Apparently, 38% is more significant in their world than 62%; we are dealing with mastermind engineers here.
With our lock you'll know hours before getting home you were robbed. The mitigation of mental anguish is priceless. Also next months new packaging "as tested and approved by the lock picking lawyer". After all LPL did say he loved the design.
LPL gave a solution for those who want a lock that works with iphones (without a delay since these don't require internet communication to validate known phones like other wifi locks). Change the cylinder. So people just need to recommend a better cylinder that fits. Those that want better security and use iphones can swap the cylinder. I for one give apple credit for allowing customizations of the physical lock, that is usually not their style. I suspect it is a "feature" that will be prevented in future revisions of the product. If you can swap the cylinder, then they won't be able to sell "higher-end" ones with better cylinders that have extremely high markups for profit.
Just read the article and thought it hilarious that they say lockpicking is not a problem😅
Hey, I can't find it. Where did they post their response?
so Level has responded to this video, their response is basically
"We didn't make it secure because only 4% of B&Es involve lockpicking, it's a convenience device not a security device"
Hey! Where'd they say that?
Sadly, they're also relying on statistics from 2007
I could sort of accept that point of view if the attacker needed to know skills. The skills needed to open this lock can be learned in minutes. And it might burn your home down if you get a more physical attack (or just slam the door with the bolt out). It's an interesting concept, though.
That leaves Level room to introduce a "Pro" model that defeats basic lock-picking attempts, for a mere US$629.
With the hollow bolt, how hard would it be to kick in?
MasterLock's new company slogan - We're just as bad... Only cheaper.
Good slogan.
Legendary
I was already wondering why I didn't see the MasterLock logo on it. But you beat me to it.
"As secure as Apple, at 10% of the cost"
🤣🤣🤣
I like that after all this time he still thinks we'll expect his skill to be a "fluke"
You never know, one of these days... I feel like there should be suspenseful music during the second attempt. Followed by sad trombone.
Yeah. To be fair a certain number of viewers will have any given video be their first one.
Just making sure glaring at it wasn't what opened it.
I know, right? Like, "...just to show it wasn't a fluke..." I'm thinking, "C'mon LPL? Who are ya kidding?"
If he didn't open locks twice, the videos would be five seconds long.
LPL needs to do a series call “The Lock is Not the Weakest Link” where he does the things like kicking in the door or swapping the trailer coupler.
That's Deviant Olam's patch. Just watch his channel too.
You should go through LPL's older videos, he had series of videos with a multitude of breaching tools.
Yes!
But why kick in a door when there are likely many other weak points on your average home? If you are a SWAT team and you need speed to get a team of officers into an area quickly (so that the suspect doesn't destroy evidence or whatever) then yeah ... you need to bust a deadbolt. But if you're a burglar in the middle of the night, a hammer to a 1/16" panel of glass is going to be way easier and still get you inside.
@@dougtoombs9195 He's not called WindowSmashingLawyer for a reason.
I love how Level saw your video and basically said, “well most people don’t pick locks soo it’ll still work most of the the time..” 😂😂🤯🤯
60% of the time it works 100%. LOL Save $329 simply by locking your lock when you leave.
I hope LPL has some scathing reply.
To be fair, it is true.
There are lots of misconception about house breaking : the first one is when it happen. 55% take place in the afternoon, and only 20% at night.
More than 50% are done without breaking anything : thieves first try to open all doors then all windows (38% of home intrusion happen through windows both with and without breaking).
And over 95% use brute force to open a door.
Overall, lock picking should be the least of your worries.
@@LeSarthois Great explanation on how to sell gum as a hasp for $300. The next step is how to sell combustible uniforms to firefighters, since most of them suffocate rather than burn.
@@FrankyRain I'm not saying they are right in doing that, just that technically (and Lockpicking Lawyer pointed that out himself in his videos) that lockpicking is indeed the least of your worries when trying to secure your home.
Level's response is just the icing on the cake. The amount of publicizing that this lock has received now is just cementing its flaws, as if a thief didn't know how to enter a house with this lock before, now they do.
For a 329$ lock, that pick resistence is a bruh moment
and that kick resistance is a k.o. moment
it's a device promoted by apple. why did you expect anything else?
This is something for a room, when you're a kid in your parents house.
Totally Dire.
Really great for burglars to notice where are the rich ppl. They don't need to break in just gently tap it and it's open.
The common theme is that the backup physical lock for an electronic lock is usually the weakest point.
You are giving the security of the electronic components a lot of credit for something that hasn't actually been tested much
@@coopercummings8370 what part of ‘usually’ do you not understand.
@@coopercummings8370 you have a point but when you can open the physical lock using only items you trash picked from the can in front of an auto parts store, that’s tough to compete with
I suspect on this one the battery holder/hollow bolt may well be the weakest point. It requires no tools beyond a pair of shoes.
@@dlevi67 true. Although if door opens outwards (all doors in my country) pretty much impossible to kick a door in, even if it had no lock.
$329 for a lock that pops open when LPL glares at it??? I don’t think so!!! 😅
Did I hear correctly, that it is sold in Apple Stores?
Wow. Who could of expected Apple to sell overpriced *censored* products?
Yes, I called Apple products *censored*, because you can't even fix them outside of EU sooner, than later (ouside of EU, because EU is hammering down law, that mandates all consumer electronics, phones etc. to be fixable with access to spare parts for if I recall correctly up to 10 ish years. Don't quote me on that, though).
@@1989SupraGuyFIN they are already legislating that that phones have to have a replaceable battery and use USB-C connector. Seems a lot of rechargeable stuff is going the same way, my rechargeable computer mouse has a replaceable USB-C lead too.
It's in line with the Apple policy of producing garbage at a super low cost, then sell it overpriced with a stupid tax. 1k+ phone that costs 3hundos, same as this. Going by how it looks, operates, i'm betting this is a cheapo china special, upscaled with a few better quality features. I wouldn't use this to secure anything but a toilet door, and i wouldn't buy this for more than 100$
My favorite hardware store is not too far from LP's P.O. box, and it only has Master Lock pad locks. I fantasize about the day I overhear LPL's voice in that store and find myself wanting to warn the store clerks not to let him near the lock isle, as they would surly all jump off their pegs and run away.
@@1989SupraGuyFIN Heh, should have thought about that. I definitely favor right to repair. So, when LPL mentioned the possibility of replacing the core, I should have immediately recognized that the warranty might be voided if somebody did.
I love that when the company was made aware of this video they said that protecting from picking attacks wasn't important.
You know, it's one of those situation where if they are serious about the convenience aspect VS picking attacks, then they should at least 1- advertise it as such, and 2- sell it at a much lower price point, like maybe 10$... I would love to see what kind of hack resistance the programing has. That in itself could be a backdoor to you entire home network.
@@louisjutras1 maybe someday there is a "Lock Hacking Lawyer". 😄
LPL could partner with some Whitehackers and make it a challenge, who opens it first, the picker or the hacker 😄
@@PAIN166 I would enjoy watching that!
Levels response to this. "Its better than leaving your door unlocked"
I love how he opens the lock 4 times in the same amount of time it takes him to describe what it is and where he got it 🤣
A common LPL trick
Such a shame too. For $300+ dollars, you could buy an Abloy or a Medeco lock that nobody would be picking anytime soon. But should we expect more from Apple? I say no. They've always sold nice shiny looking things at 5 to 10 times the price it should be. I'm just here reading the comments trying to find some apple fanboy defending the company but I've yet to find one. This makes me optimistic that Apple's marketing department is either becoming ineffective or people are finally starting to wise-up.
@@markjune3027 apples slogan should be "Lowest possible build quality and performance for the highest possible price, but it is really shiny though."
@@Anarchy522XD their too busy calling for an ambulance
@@markjune3027 it's apple homekit compatible not from apple themselves, if like saying your chinese 30 dollar lights are google assistant compatible so they're made by google. Still, being sold on Apple's website it's disappointing, but no hate to Apple the lock *does* do what it needs to do ie. work perfectly with homekit
As someone who had to break into his own house, thank you for bringing up Kick Resistance. It is shockingly easy to break most home locks that way, or at least get past the lock by breaking the door frame.
That really depends on where you live. In the Netherlands our front doors generally have steel doorframes. You very likely will not be kicking these down.
@@paulelderson934 I almost sure it's true for all over Europe. Only americans can purchase $100/$200/$329,99 locks and install it into cardboard door. Oh, and don't forget 2 meters tall windows beside that door.
I used to break into places legally for a living, my front door has a "kick strip" protecting the lock and the door frame is re-enforced with studs resin fixed into the brickwork, lock is a Chubb Ava which is a bit dated now an pickable but only with specialist tools and knowledge which is good enough for me.
@@paulelderson934 Depends how the frame is attached to the rest of the building, that's often a weak link.
When breaking and entering there's a few things to consider.
Is the window open, is there a spare key hidden around, is there a back door that's easier to get through, would anyone notice if you threw a brick in the back window. Is there a garage door that's easier to get in.
The lock and doorframe can be made of the most advanced exotic materials and have special designs to insure pick resistance, that won't stop someone who wants in.
I love how they got everything about the lock right besides the actual lock.
same is with their phones...
LOL!!! Right on point!! LOL
@@Martink9191 This is so true. Apple phones suck badly and don't even get me started on their walled garden that limits what you can do with the device.
@@Martink9191 But Level doesn't make phones?
ill bet the electronic hardware is just as bad, and god only knows how faulty the programing is.
it just looks really nice when it's in the packaging and that's what Apple is all about.
Just saw a report on Techradar from Level respondingbto this video, saying they aren't worried about lock picking because very few house break-ins are by picking. That is an incredible response.
And few Chinese PSU's catch fire but that doesn't mean you should buy a product with cheap components. It might end up costing you more eventually.
To be quite honest though. They're not concerned that you'll get robbed, they've already done it.
@@Kit_BearLOL true
Don't worry about the shonky design in the titan sub, most accidents are due to operator error, not crappy sub design
Lpl is a beast no one i mean NO ONE's lock or anyblicking invention is safe from him. . I appreciate his work and his humble attitude most important his honesty. . .keep it going lots of love from MAURITIUS 🇲🇺
You can buy the just Level Lock internals on their own and use different lock cylinder for $100 cheaper than the combo sold on Apple's store.
shhh don't awaken the fan boy dragons, apple only delivers true innovation 🤣
Can also eliminate the cylinder part entirely, depending on application. Can just be blanked
...but it will still be overpriced and weak. Wait until he kicks it through. Just stick to locks with keys. Way fewer failure points.
@@cris_j Meh, still depends on application. If it’s a door where you need to allow a high amount of temporary access, it’s hard to beat the convenience of an electronic lock that allows time limits and remote reprogramming. As for kicking it in, that depends entirely on the construction of the door, not the lock
It's over priced anyway.
Even ignoring the poor tolerances for physical picking, there's no way the electronics on that thing are worth $329.
Capitalism, chapter 1: you don't have to sell things you have at the cost price. You try to milk your customers as much you can, optimising the profit.
The programming was sold by Apple, so probably 300 for that 29 for the lock.
Didn't Apple have a $1000 monitor bracket? Not the monitor, its mounting.
Apple Tax lol
But it's Apple branded! How else am i supposed to tell criminals that i am rich and this is a good home to rob?
For more than 10 years I've played around with locks trying to pick them with little to no success until I started watching you and Bosnenbill's videos. now I'm getting better at it but still a novice. I was successful using a city rake to open an SFIC Best Lock Lock style deadbolt in less than three seconds, I was blown away..thanks LPL. Much respect from a fellow Marylander.
Rake is super powerful tool, I was surprised how easily many office locks can be unlocked with wave rake. And sometimes faster and easier than with the real key!
When you pick to the control shear line, repeatedly with various sample locks.... send me a resume!
Level, the company that makes this lock, just replied to a news outlet that the security of the lock isn't really that important because people use other ways to get into the house. What a joke.
I watch these videos and it gives me a very healthy distrust in every security device in my home AND my apartment complex.
I love that there is finally a Covert Instruments hammer.
The guy in charge of design’s phone is definitely going to voicemail today
I would never use anything "SMART" in my residence except fot my smart phone. That hollow bolt just snaps rite off on a kick test I would think.
As soon as I heard this was something from the Apple store I had expectations, and this exactly met them. High tech, slimline, very aesthetic and almost completely useless at it's supposed basic function.
That is apple in a nut shell
It also has one of the most distinguishing feature, it is above and beyond the reasonable price. Though I am not sure if this is also repair "ex girfriendly" like other Apple products, i.e, it is better get a new one than to fix the broken one.
Yep you totally forgot "horribly overpriced". Always costing at least 3 times more than a competing product that does a better job.
You guys realize Apple isn’t making this lock right? Jesus fucking christ the bandwagoning to hate on Apple the moment you hear the name
@@ItsRainingLemons they may not make it, but they licence its sale and distribution through their store.
I do love that you made sure to bring up the lock's strong points as well as its failings.
Strengths: looks really good.
Weaknesses: doesn't work as a lock.
@@anthonyobryan3485 What I was ACTUALLY referring to was LPL praising the lock's design hiding the electronic components from outsider view, the battery placement, the quality of the thumbturn, and the easily-replacable cylinder. To be honest, I do not know enough about lock mechanism terminology to identify what part of LPL's commentary can be translated as "looks really good".
An Apple product with style over substance: Who could have guessed.
Except it's not an Apple product.
@@wbfaulk It is a joke.
@@bvd7517 You could have said "Apple sells a product…", been accurate, and told the same hackneyed joke.
What's worse? The "fanboy" (who's writing this on an Android smartphone), or the knee-jerk reactionary parroting a lame joke incorrectly?
@@wbfaulk Because that's not how jokes work.
@@bvd7517 It doesn't work any worse than your current lame attempt. Maybe you'd like to cram in the same Master Lock joke everyone echoes, too.
I'd love to see how strong the hollow bolt is, and also a teardown of the cylinder to see the pins. It would also be interesting to discover what sensors it has (if any) and if they can be tricked somehow.
Indeed; compare to the bold on a real lock that costs hundreds, like the high-end Multilock. Contrast on the left: bolt resists hacksaws in multiple ways and annoys the attacker; to the right: explodes after just starting the saw through with a common hacksaw blade.
@@JohnDlugosz considering i can snap batteries in half with my bare hands (and i'm about as muscly as she-hulk before the cgi) i can't see anyone much past ten years old needing to do more than kick it but yeah, a hacksaw is gonna make a mess of that in seconds!
@@billynomates920 Typical apple product, overpriced junk that looks nice
@@Monke636 Apple doesn’t make these, they just sell them on their store.
@@tbrumleve They don't make iphones either, thats some little chinese kids skipping school!!!
As someone that previously worked for Apple Inc in B2B development, as normal it's all about style, looking good is priority and a very distant second is substance and function.
This is why I no longer work there and the last Apple product I purchased was an iPhone 5 back in 2012 and I have no intention of purchasing anything else any time soon.
Amen to that
I used to be a sucker and bought every Apple product I could, so stupid I feel like such a fool,, they really don't care they just see customers as dollar symbols, but they pretend that they do everything for their customers. I haven't bought a product from them in about four years and I'm the same I don't intend to
Long-time subscriber here voting for the kick test.
I love that your videos get straight to the point, no intro music/splash screen, etc. Thank you!
I am not holding my breath waiting for the day that it actually is a fluke
He already uploaded a video were it was just a fluke.
Can't remember which video, but it was a "challenge lock" or something along those lines.
If I remember correctly he only got it open ones.
LpL thoughtfully giving Apple the idea to remarket this overpriced "lock" as an overpriced fidget toy instead.
Apple doesn't make this nor markets this. They have nothing to do with it other than the tech...
@@purelogarithm Maybe, but if they sell it on the Apple store, it's a tackit endorsement. And for almost 400 bucks, that's a hell of an endorsement for something that offers basically no security. Unless that deadbolt is enforced by unobtanium, it being hollowed out is a ludicrous design flaw. Add to that if the battery gets ruptured, you're looking at a housefire.
@@mattstanford9673 I disagree. They sell lots of products. I don’t consider just being a reseller much of endorsement if it’s a technology company when you look at a lock. Now of it was a company that sold quality locks I would.
@@purelogarithm I don't think it's a super relevant endorsement in terms of product specialties, but it's still an endorsement. Apple has to specifically decide to put that product on their store, it's not the same as Amazon putting their 748th deadbolt in their database.
@@scyfrix their only endorsement is for HomeKit compatibility- not overall security.
The wave rake!!! And the bump!!! Those are like 75 year old known vulnerabilities!
This shows again that technology companies and lock companies aren't the same thing--even there there are terrible lock companies. Looking at you ML
Even though LPL makes a living doing these videos the truth is that vanishing few home burglaries involve lock picking. It might be something like 1/2 of 1% of home entry is via lock picking and in those cases it's probably a sophisticated thief. So for the vast majority of cases making the lock easily picked saves the homeowner a lot of time and money when they lock themselves out and need a locksmith to come open the door. If the lock can be wave raked it's going to be a lot cheaper than if the locksmith has to burn through 3 drill bits and replace the whole lock.
Level sells just the Bolt version (it's just the insides there), and you can put your own lock hardware on the outside of the door. Only downside it the Bolt doesn't have Apple Key capability. But it does have Homekit support as well as a wireless keypad. Both of those combined give me an awesome setup!
Thank you! I was one of the folks that emailed you about this lock.
Thanks for covering this lock. It’s disappointing that they don’t seem to put a little more attention on the actual locking mechanism security.
The customers are Apple people - they're not interested in the details, just how shiny it is and it says "Apple" on the box, or works with their iphone (yes, I realize apple didn't make this, but it's selling into the same customers / same ecosystem)
@@gorak9000 i disagree, but everyone is entitled to their opinions. This specific lock has some nice features but two big security concerns both of which were identified. Most other “smart” locks available are even worse for security (other than August smart lock which uses your existing deadbolt).
It's Apple branded hardware, what'd you expect? It's their "function follows form" design philosophy instead of the usual "form follows function"
@@majordakka5743 it isn’t Apple specific hardware. The company is level lock and they support multiple platforms.
@@1slyboy To which they then attempted to defend their product and in the meantime dodge the actual concern by praising the less important part of the "lock" which is supposed to be (somewhat) lock-picking resistant. I laughed when I read it.
I'd be really interested to see your approved or recommended locks for each different category. Like what smart door lock would you actually use, what padlock for a shed would you use, what Euro-cylinder would you use for your own front door etc etc
He's not going to endorse anything. At best he will show you the facts so you can decide for yourself.
@@joshuagibson2520 Except, he has said he will use certain locks. IE Abus Granit videos.
There is no such thing as a quality “smart” lock. Keep electronics out of locks.
The closest you’ll find to a recommendation would be a lock that doesn’t have trivial bypasses and also takes him a little while to pick. Video length can be an indicator, but not always. There’s also the phrase “probably good enough for the street” that you can listen for.
Check out video 527, it might answer some of your questions
definitely want to see the kick résistance test ;c)
It's just the lowest possible skill attack to any door.
reminds me of a scene in the movie _Sneakers_ where Robert Redford discusses over Headset on how to open a door and simply kicks it open in the end.
thanks for the review, I was considering to buy one
Wow I was just looking for a video on this lock from you about 2 hours ago.
One thing to note, you can buy just the electronics/ smart deadbolt portion from Amazon for $173 and use your existing locks, or purchase a more secure lock. That, of course, doesn’t change the hollow dead bolt weakness that you pointed out, which I’m glad I learned about here in your video.
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I love how there is a jingle when he said he will try the kick resistance of the bolt in the future.
**Mission Unlocked**
You are so awesome! I’m just blown away by how simple you make these things look. Thanks for all you do to educate!
Somehow I missed this video when it was first posted - glad I found it while researching this lock. I also didn't know about the "battery in the bolt" aspect - that seems… Less than optimal. But our front door is a "french door" style dual doors that just have little bolts that go up and down on the second door, so we're already not exactly highly kick resistant. I might get one and just replace the cylinder with a higher security one.
One wonders (one does) if a certain lawyer has ever been recognized as LPL just from his voice while talking to someone at the courthouse.
Works fabulously as an aesthetically pleasing visual deterrent.
Now I want to see the "kick test."
I'm concerned about the battery if someone decides to do a destructive entry of cutting that shell of a deadbolt.
Very true. I'd rather have my house or flat robbed out of everything inside than burned. Belongings can be relatively easy bought again if you have money from insurance, but getting a new place to live is a totally different story.
Alkaline batteries usually just seethe when damaged, nothing exciting like lithium.
This battery isn't a fire hazard. No lithium that burns in contact with water, and it has a puny amount of energy. The big issue is how weak the hollow bolt is.
@@abitofabitofabit4404 It's a lithium cell, pause at 0:47
@@random_n looks like a standard Duracell to me. Just one of their smaller ones.
(I stand corrected it does say lithium ion the battery.) Missed it the first time.
You are really operating on another level bro
I'd love to see, someday, LPL crafting his own pick-proof lock! 😍 It would be epic! He knows every vulnerability of locks, so he can be smart enough to help creating a lock that would be quite difficult to pick. We all know the perfect lock is impossible to create...
Hello, theres IS one that even him havent picked. The one angel wings shape
If I remember right there was a video awhile back where another youtuber sent in a lock, basically got told fix a few things and it would be good.
@@lavan1892
StuffMadeHere sent in two locks
The one issue with pick-proof locks, is that if you lock yourself out, it gets increasingly difficult and expensive to have someone pick it for you - or replace if unable to pick it. And on average, locking yourself out by mistake is far more common than being robbed
He made one with t-pins and master wafers that is a trap lock. Pretty clever
Wooo!
Nothing is better than watching the lock being obliterated in seconds for dinner
I’d like to see a tear down of the lock with change out of pins and perhaps entire core. This along with kick resistance would allow you to see if the unit is convertible into something useful / useable.
Such an embarrassment for a company that likes to tout ' high quality '.
Thing is, it is high quality, it's just not high security.
The absolute best additional feature you can add to a 5pin core lock to increase its security is a warped door. It is difficult to pick a keyhole while leaning bodily on your belt to put tension on the doorknob and when you add that warp to a deadbolt you're talking a MONSTER of a click-over.
Thank you for this video. I’d love to see you test more of these locks, although I expect it’ll be about the same. I’m VERY interested in the results of the kick testing. Level is already trying to spin these results, lol
Thanks for doing this review. I'd heard about this lock and checked out the "reviews" and none of them seemed to care about whether the lock provide good security. It was all about how well it interfaced to the apple world. As to the exorbitant price, apple fanboys would feel that they were being cheated if they didn't overpay for the product.
The original Level Lock reuses the existing lock so it's completely covert. You can add it to whatever lock you've already got so even if you're renting you can still smartify your lock.
smartify - if that's not in the dictionary already, i reckon it soon will be. of course, purists might prefer smarten or even smartenise but i don't- smartify it is!
Actually, you end up dumbifying the lock by replacing a good or mediocre bolt, with one that is barely a deadbolt at all
Level has responded, they basically said that in the real world, lock picking isn't a significant threat compared to leaving the door unlocked or leaving keys under the mat.
That's what they all say. Until it becomes easy to spot people deep in the Apple ecosystem because they use a particular type of lock, and match that to a particularly easy method of picking.
At least their design is relatively obscure to the casual observer.
They ain't wrong, but If I'm dropping over $300 on a lock then it better be at least mildly difficult to pick for those rare sophisticated burglars. If I'm only worried about deterring casual thieves then I'll just buy a cheap lock.
My understanding is that the bolt is certified at the highest standard for home locks, so the battery in it shouldn't be an issue. Definitely concerning that it can be picked so easily though! Would love to see a video showing *how* to replace the cylinder.
Yes please!!
I don't like Masterlock junk any more than he does but showing how terrible high priced products are so poorly designed and made is a far better use of his time, talent and fame and I really applaud this use of his channel. The other thing he does is expose Amazon picks as cheap and shoddy and too few people stand up to them. Please keep up the good work.
I also just want to add keep sticking it to Apple and Tim Cook and Amazon and Jeff Bezos good sir.
Level also sells just the internal bolt and so you can provide your own lock, so technically you could add the Bowley lock to it. Curious how Level’s bolt compares to Bowley’s level 3 bolt
That's why the regular level lock is a better buy from a security point of view. It use your regular lock and key. Which means that the security is as good as your regular, existing lock
I love the overlap with high end fidgets.
And now LPL is on Apple's hit list.
I would love to see a video where LPL just kicks in a door
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That's blasphemous
As soon as you said “rake” my heart broke for those who spent the money on this, thinking it was good 🥺
those people are probably very used to having bad expensive products
Epitome of apple design. Looks good, feels nice in your hand, pisspoor functionality for the price
I’ve been waiting for LPL to conver this from a hand channel to a foot channel! So want to see that bolt and battery broken!
Wait, so Apple is selling a product that has great design but limited utility? Shocked, i say...
With "great design" you mean aesthetically pleasing?
As LPL has show, there is much more to design than look and feel.
Typical of design engineers, not to ask opinions of blue shirts before launching new products.
Great content as usual! 👍👍
If you do the door kick resistance test, I expect a duke nukem esque leg view
I'm here to kick doors and pick locks... and I'm all outta locks
I would not object to seeing this; april 1st material if he includes some traditional folk dance from lapland and poleland..
Glad got to know this before buying it! Thank you
I love just looking at all the video times. That says it all
Looks great, has some neat and innovative ideas, but ultimately fails in practical testing? Yep, sounds like the Apple Lock.
I'd love to see a kick test on that thing. That hollow bolt looks flimsy as heck. Not only that, but it has a battery inside the bolt, which will get mangled along with the bolt.... I'd be interested to see what becomes of that, especially if it's a fully charged lithium battery.
Last time I was this early it was still a fluke
It’s never a fluke
Only came here because of Levels response. Man, they were not happy you did this!
Love these videos! But note that this product works with Android, Apple or Amazon Alexa. Its actually only $249 on the Level website and if you want the guts only, it $199. It appears in the video that this uses a Schlage key (with Schlage cylinder) so replacing your existing Schlage dead bolt guts with this would be pretty simple and you get to keep your same key. But as many have said, LET’s SEE THE KICK TEST! :)
Serious question - why does anyone want to see a kick test? If I wanted to break into a home covertly to maybe rob someone, I would definitely not be kicking in the front door. I'd bring a hammer and smash out any one of the 1/16" glass windows accessible to me - many of them often right next to the door itself.
Maybe I'm missing a use case here, but busting a deadbolt only seems like a necessity if you're a SWAT team and you need to get a dozen agents into a space within seconds.
@@dougtoombs9195 I think the point is to test the lock for one of its key functionalities: securing an entry. Picking aside, would this lock be able to resist a brute force attack? Any acceptable lock should be able to resist a kick. Not every intruder is there to be covert; maybe it's a home invasion robbery. Or maybe just an abusive partner trying to get in the house.
There are two different but similarly named products - the Level Lock and the Level Lock+ (with Home Key Support). The latter is an Apple Store exclusive.
@@jimhealis But the point remains, brute force attack to most homes (flats excluded) is trivial, no matter what lock you use.
Hopefully you'll respond to Level's claims that lockpicking accounts for only 4% of break-ins so it doesn't matter how easy it is. They seemed to claim that the ability to see when your lock has been opened by any means, mitigates the already low risk of picking.
The types of homes that have a $300 smart lock might have a higher incidence of picking. Stats such as the quoted 4% might be lower because it is an average across all demographics. In poorer neighbourhoods picking is probably very rare but in more wealthy areas the burgers are probably more likely to be targeting specific houses and planning their entry and exit more carefully.
Also, if you have multiple people living in your home you probably don't check everytime the door is unlocked.
The only thing I would say is that people who have such a lock are more likely to have security cameras as well.
absolutely! I agree that we'd need to see the demographics, and I would add, the study(or studies) itself. there may be some bias not being taken into account, such as funding.
burgers
Most crims wear a mask and gloves
Hope this video goes viral. These companies need to be held accountable when they design a product so terrible especially when it’s sold for a premium price. Hope they get very little sales and design version 2 more robust.
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Don't be naive, LPL has been trolling master lock for how many years? What did they change? You can learn about things like that and simply avoid them. I much rather pay $100-$300 for a Medeco lock than this one.
Unfortunately just being on Apple's store has likely gotten them a lot of sales.
Start sharing the vid and telling everyone to share it so it can been seen
Considering that you can use it with other locks and cylinders, I'd really like to see the bolt's strength tested. That always seemed like the weak point to me. Even if it can resist a kick, it seems like it would be easy to cut through.
If they are gonna kick your door or cut it, might as break a window (it’s faster)
There are 2 versions of the level lock. this one comes with the deadbolt part, but the other one uses your house's existing deadbolt hardware and just replaces the aprt in the door.
Well done, as always.
I also looked at the battery placement and it's going to fold against a kick in pretty short order. What you have there is a thin wall pipe made out of that looks to be plain steel because the battery is so large. The proper way to make this would be an internal battery and a USB C charging port, making it a very small hole drilled down the center of a solid steel shaft (as long as it's less than 1/4 of the overall diameter, it's effectively still solid) OR, put the battery under the inside handle. You'd have to unscrew it to replace it, but the knob itself looks almost tall enough to fit a battery inside. And there you don't really need kick resistance.
fun times recharging the lock every morning.
Internal battery would need to be a standard size and serviceable
USB-C charging port!! 😆
If the deadbolt of this lock is a decent thickness and made of steel, then it should perform as well as as most deadbolts out there. Most deadbolts out on the market while solid are made of zinc alloy. Not exactly the strongest material. That's why some have a hardened steel pin in the middle because zinc alloys are easy to cut through. The reason the actual average deadbolt looks shiny is that they are chrome plated. Not because they are steel.
@@Tony-pq3xv A hardened steel tube is still much easier to get through than something solid. The path for the charging cable needs to be as tiny as possible.
Apple got everything else right except for the most important part of a lock... wow
Apple didn't do anything other than offer it for sale in their store.
having a hollow bolt is certainly interesting... would love to see how easy it is to kick in
these videos are like therapy for me
just FYI, you don't have to purchase the lockset trim, they are compatible with many off the shelf cylindrical deadbolts. With that you can actually keep the style that you have currently and have the option for a keypad (by level!)
Apple headquarters: shit people are going to think that we’re like MasterLock but more expensive.
Some Apple employee: we shouldn’t have worked with them in the first place.
Which kind of safest cylinder could be used to swap the stock one?
I think it would've been worth mentioning that because it is a smart lock, even if you were to pick it open, it would then send a message to the user that the lock had been manually opened. So while it is pickable, you can't pick most smart locks without at least being notified that it was unlocked.
So can security systems can do that for so much cheaper. Also, security cameras! All you have to do is just set up a motion detecter connected to a camera and set it up to your phone. Might be 100-200, and you get the benefit of actually seeing what's going on.
But hey, overpriced garbage is Apple's specialty.
please man mode a door, that would be the best video ever
Well that’s one of the scariest things I’ve seen today! 🎃
What replacement cylinder would you recommend for this lock?
Did we actually see a LPL fluke? 2:08
Since this is the closest we’ll ever see to a fluke, I say yes!🎉
It finally happened. I never expected the fluke to be LPL though XD
After Level's response, I really want to go around and rake open any one I ever see in the wild.