Hot take, we have enough GOATS that are considered natural to where the stance of "they were all on something" doesn't have to apply anymore. Real combat, natural athletes, we must find out who the best are on an even playing field, not one guy being allowed to tests positive at least 4 times while no Dillashaw win counts. DC is not a "hater" he is justifiably mad that his career and legacy opportunity got derailed by a man who fought him with something replacing his testosterone.
Usman is so fake and boring. Man tries so hard to sound mystic and interesting with his slow and "in-depth" conversations. Beating Colby and masvidal twice shouldn't be enough to get this type of attitude 😂😂
Jones ruined DC's end of career run. I'd be a bit upset as well. Jones is more a Barry Bonds than MJ. Jones will always have an * by his name regardless.
Macau is used as a region because of the higher degree of autonomy foreign companies have compared to other non special administrative regions of china. for example there are gambling industries in macau that are outlawed in other regions. this is handy for ufc for a variety of reasons, advertising and betting companies potentially being included in this event for example.
Jones fought DC twice yet failed 3 separate events drugs events when he was supposed to fight DC. That tells us that Jon didn't think he could handle DC while Natty. If Jon is as good as his fans think he is, why couldn't he fight lil ole DC clean? 🤔
@@mikerelva6915he also ducked DC when Cormier became the heavyweight champ. Straight up said that he didn’t have an advantage against him, so he didn’t want to fight him again lol
not just that but he stole DC’s legacy, it’s likely that if DC beat him he’d go up to heavyweight earlier and retire as one of the greatest of all time, if not the greatest.
That's facts, but at the same time you should be on PEDS if you're a fighter, especially if you know how to get away with it. You'd have to be a fool to fight but not find ways to cheat. Don't give me this "it's supposed to be a respect sport nonsense" either.
True I guess but confused why mmaguru and many of these comments are acting like this is exclusive to black people. Every group biased supports the group they identify with mmaguru does this himself
@DolphinsHiLights bruh even if he greased it doesn't matter that's one instance of something that's barely even cheating if it even is cheating. Jones pokes people in the eye every fight and could have been dq'd twice and he popped 3 times. It's not even a comparison
Daniel Cormier has every right to wish jon jones nothing but the worst for the rest of his life.his life’s work was stolen from him by a cheater, but that’s not even the tip of the iceberg. DC lost his infant daughter in a car accident with a drunk driver. he hardly ever talks about it because of how much it hurts him. jon smashed his company car into a pregnant woman’s car while under the influence and fled the scene. all of their history aside daniel would despise that man for even existing. it’s his right.
That's originally when the Beef started Up and any logic and empathic Human being could fell for The Lady or DC but looks like people only want to see a drug cheater beating 38 years olds middel weight loosing to gustaffson and reyes...failed the most drug test in combat sport history being called the Micheal jordan of the sport
Cry some more. DC cheated to make weight and still jokes about it. Jones beat DC and the "positive" test he had wouldn't even be labeled as positive now. He's just better than DC and proved it.... twice.
@@themonsterbaby😂 dude popped for clomiphene that is irrefutable. Also note T-Bol is literally untested in humans and they just made up rules for Jones. Like DC has a legitimate better resume in mma, not only was he undefeated in Strike Force but was heavyweight champ, he then goes on to be both light heavyweight and heavyweight champion in the UFC. All this while being clean.
@tylerrobbins8311 We live in a world where leaning on a towel to make weight is more evil than crashing a car into pregnant women, failing drug tests and beating your wife. Telling you dude when it comes to someone they want to religiously defend, morals and ethics don't count anymore.
@@419HLR his ownership of the hornets has been. L after L. bro got lamelo ball as his mascot because hes "marketable". in other words nba teams draft based on how good looking someone is to make money from sponsorships...
@marcelrandall7693 what's being said is that he should talk shit about silva who was on PEDs as well. Bisping doesn't because he beat that PED user and lost to the other
27:20 Macau is kind of like the Las Vegas of South East Asia. It is not fully governed by China so gambling is still legal, lots of shows and tours go there to appeal to the Chinese market without actually entering China.
Been in the UFC since 08, in title fights since 2011, beat more champions than ANYONE in UFC history, a champion in 2 different weight classes. Pretty easy to see why he has fans and why the VAST MAJORITY view him as the GOAT 🐐
I'll be any cheater's fan if I find them entertaining. That's mostly because unlike others I just don't care about these fighter's personal life, neither will I make it my business. Now I also don't blame a fighter for cheating. Edit: Why put energy into these ppl's personal life? You're not going to change anything just by judging, besides that's between him & God the only 1 who can truly judge.
in every legitimate sport once you test positive for steroids you’re done, your legacy is ruined and completely delegitimised, you’re no longer in any GOAT conversations.
But if your Jones, you can fail literally every test under USADA except the OSP fight and the league will then make up some pulsing theory that doesn't exist, and then will up the the thresholds so you can keep using and people won't find out. Jon didn't even come back to fight Gane til the UFC up the thresholds. Ponder that 💀 As soon as he beat Gane all the simps just lapped it up and totally forgot he was juiced. Literally the only athlete in history that cheated so bad the league changed the rules to let him juice as he was so addicted he couldn't stop.
@@mikerelva6915 its hilarious listening to them try to justify it too, “but Dana said…” as if Dana is a trustworthy individual when it comes to any subject in MMA. he’s a promoter, his job is to lie to you to keep you invested in the product at all costs.
@@buddylee5712so if everyone’s cheating in every sport, why is it only certain people who manage to pop? you’re innocent until proven guilty, or do you not believe in that concept too
Just a reminder mma fans are the dumbest ppl on earth. Best resume in the sport but he's a duck for not fighting the one specific fighter YOU want for his last fight. 😂😂😂😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
3:30 Jon jones is one of the greatest ever and is the one who got me into actually watching MMA because of the Machido fight….THAT BEING SAID…it has taken me at least 5 months of this year to get to the point where I’ve rationalized that JJ is kind of a bit of a little bit of a chance of a possibility of a fraud
13:30 For anyone wondering Usman's father was convicted health care fraud and money laundering in 2010 in Texas. He was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment and ordered to pay $1,300,000. He was released in 2021. He'd also previously been convicted for theft and drunk driving.
@@DarrenReddix-j2nyes it’s an insult because you are not allowed to use EPO, that being said you’re correct about usman being smart about the situation
I swear despite DC being an ok commentator but I respect him for being the only guy who calls out Jones while everyone else bootlicks him to avoid flak.
DC cheated with the towel for a champ fight, tested for 8 times the highest normal level of testosterone when he fought Jon, and went into the fight planning the eye gouge Stipe nonstop.
The amount of people that shit on DC and call him a hater for not being cool with a guy who stained his career permanently and was a cheating criminal the whole time is sad. Like my dad is a massive casual, and I have to explain to him, the man who got me into sports as a whole, something so basic as Jon Jones being a dogshit human. I brought up DC, and my dad goes "DC was a wimp." Like how can you even say that shit man. The casual fans vilify the wrong people in sports, including DC.
DC gets the most amount of hate out of anyone in the sport yet has consistently been one of the actual guys you'd want your kid to look up in regards to professional prize fighters. He's been professional, honest, and been the punching bag for the UFC to give Jones every chance possible. Literally the worst thing anyone can say about Daniel, outside I guess if you know him personally, is that he's biased toward the AKA guys like Khabib and Islam. MMA is awesome, the fandom can be truly retarded.
Most people don't care about morality until it affects them as an individual, and when that morality is affecting someone that is different from them perhaps they will even be compliant or possibly in support of it.
@@Gmark25Let’s not be mistaken here, Cormier was on PEDs for the Jones fight too, his test levels were through the roof. Everything said about Jones is true, but DC was not a clean angel.
Honestly though the sport isn’t “moving on” from jones or Conor or any of that eras fighters, the sport is literally doing worse than it’s ever done, it’s going down hill fast and once there is no more 2013-2018 era guys, the sport is finished
@@s66s46 jon didnt pop before the actual steroid testing company came into picture either. So that argument is actually, trash because gsp could have fought once more and prove he was clean bit he literally ran away(even tho he was very vocal about ped testing just before usada got introduced). He also fought 155ers who went to 170 lmfao.
Real rich coming from a drug cheat himself in usman who had a literal boob and acne all over his body. Dc should’ve called them both out in that moment I’m sure that would’ve went viral
It’s actually crazy people act like jones is hated for no reason 😹 how could you seriously look at what happened to DC and think it’s unreasonable to still hate jones
Infinite respect for DC but even if it were a clean fight, almost everyone would have had their money on Jones. There is a gulf between him and all the other fighters in UFC.
@Ab_Irato the fights with DC weren't even that one-sided and the fights with Reyes and Gus and Santos definitely weren't one-sided so that's absolute nonsense what you're saying.
@@FrenkieWest32 let’s break that down. Let’s talk about jones vs dc 2. That ending was the most magnificent thing I had ever seen. DC was beat soundly.The way he spun dc around was just insane. Reyes fight was the closest in my opinion. As for the Gus fight I give 1,4 and 5 to Jon. Lyoto machida fight was losing for Jon but he submitted him beautifully. When I talk about the gulf I am talking about the gulf that separates the GOAT from a top 10 fighter. No one has beaten him. Whatever you throw at him he overcomes it. Not to mention the man is the most talented in UFC history. No one could have done what he has done all the while wasting his time partying and snorting coke. Reducing his greatness to PED use and eye pokes is just plain deceptive. Like DC said it’s not a rivalry if you lose twice 🤷.
Jon jones is probably the only athlete I genuinely dislike. However, this are such silly statements every fan base has fools and every group of people has fools
Him saying anything about jones or dana is completely irrelevant because of 1 hour glaze he did on 2 malley losing cleanly lost fight, grasping for straws of "well he hit that leg kick more clean guyzzzzzzz, 3 minute of gnp means nothing, 2 mallwy hit his leg kick guyzzzzzzz"
DC is 5"11 fighting in real man weight class, against PED cheat Jon Jones who KOs him in one of the most brutal knockouts ever. Jon Jones doesn't have a high fight IQ, he has massive frame which allows him to do "high IQ" things that other fights would be able to do, but can't because they are not as genetically advantaged. It's actually more impressive DC did what he did whilst being massively undersized (bone length wise) for his weight class. I wonder why DC hates him...
Jones lost to Reyes when Reyes had like 5 years of MMA training and you honestly could give Santos the nod in their fight if you really look at it. Visually his knee was funky but he did more. Jones will always be in the goat convo but the push to deem him the overall supreme goat, is definitely mainstream Media/ESPN driven. Especially when you consider how they never criticize him even though he's the biggest steroid cheat in modern UFC history and has physically assaulted women. Meanwhile the Media crucifies some fighters (Sean Strickland) for hurting people's feelings with words. The double standards are too real lol.
Guru I love you man. I love that you’re not a corporate chill like some of these other influencers are a.k.a. Nina drama and others. You have such a big platform but you call out BS when you see it even compared to other Mma RUclipsr for what you do! My comment was in regards to the John Jones thing
Jones: PED's, constant intentional eye pokes, 3 fights he arguably lost - Gustuffson, Santos, Reyes, all who showed to be mid-tier fighters afterward, a terrible role model with bad criminal record, only cares about himself DC: no PED's, "less" intentional eye pokes, 2 division champ, great role model and team player, oh yeah and no PED's... Yes, Jones is better but DC is rightfully upset at these statements with these guys glazing Jones.
No they dont? Stop looking for attention. You have undefeated fighters like khamzat and ian garry getting thrashed needlessly but you claim fans are calling debutants the goat? 😂 stop talking
Do you honestly think flu game was possible without steroids? Do you think thes had any ped testing back in 90s? They dont have it rn in nba lmfao Islam popped for peds, and himself admitted he was on juice as younger but now he is, suddenly clean? Everyone is on steroids, jon is just more stupid not to use them as others who didnt fail
I covered a reason why DC is mad and it's more than just their rivalry. To think such DC has worked so hard and accomplished so much in his career without the need for PEDs especially in a time when USADA was less strict and you had a lot of fighters already on PEDs, it is a slap in the face to compare someone who cheated throughout his career to a legend like MJ.
I’m from Macau (live in Britain now though), pretty exciting to have an event come to us. I agree it’s a weird location on paper, but then you clock that it’s basically Chinese Las Vegas, getting all its money from casinos and shows. Looks like the fight’s being hosted by Galaxy, which is a huge complex of shops, casinos, hotels and other venues. Won’t be able to see it live but I’m glad Macau’ll be getting some attention from the mma community.
@@allybaapp1053they both ducked each other at different points. Earlier on in their "rivalry", Tony had a much better chance against Khabib because Khabib wasn't quite as dominant and Tony was at his peak around the RDA fight. As time went on, Khabib became much better and would've easily beat Tony
@@thewalruswasjason101 honest question, do you understand doping? Anti doping agencies test for known substances, from the beginning of time athletes with money have been using tailored drugs that are not detected by the current testing methods. All of your favourite fighters were/are juicing. Jones, Khabib, Silva, GSP, Mighty Mouse, Fedor were all juicing, and in my opinion Jon was the best of them.
@@drunkenmmamaster419 well I don’t think Conor is overrated because he’s never cheated and everything he won was clean not a fan boy I just think he gets too much disrespect nowadays but Jon jones gets in these conversations after all the failed tests and not to mention the absolute scumbag that he is outside the cage.
0:52 this shot of usman's statement and dc's response gives similar vibes to when cejudo told usman it's time to call ddp the king of africa after he beat izzy lol
I am not defending Jones as person at all..., but this thing that he only faught with peds in UFC is simply false..., DC look more plates more dates he was also on the gear, he faught Henderson, Lyotto, OSP, Chael, TRT Victor all the guys that use peds and failed at least once...., there is a reason why fighters call him goat cause 85%+ of them are on something....
Jon was on gear post usada, those guys weren't. And the ufc willingly let him use gear then cover for him and lie for him and make up bs excuses. So Jon is different. A lot of fighters call him the GOAT because they've also met him personally or know him and look up to him cause he's one of the biggest og's in mma. And i think it's fair for someone to say that he's the goat but to say he's the Michael Jordan of mma is just stupid as hell
@@botondbakos5954 dude stop coping now the reason why they call John’s the goat is not because they know him because of his résumé like this is a shit I’m talking about you guys are so biased you wont be objective.
I keep that energy for all cheaters. Lesnar, Jones, and Silva all popped hot. I have a strong suspicion that many others were cheating but never got caught.
True that is a bias but I can tell you why it’s because Anderson Silva consistently fought the best of the best his entire career and never ran jon jones has spent 5 years straight dodging his top competition Andersons had balls when pushing 50 jones is making excuses when he’s not even 40 yet Anderson it’s pretty easy to see why people respect anderson and not jones
@@stonecold316339 GSP is also very public about his anti-doping stance. If you take him for his word he never cheated, but personally I find that very unlikely.
Tom Aspinall is the only fighter I can think of that has invalidated Jones’ goat status due to failed PED tests. Every other fighter or ex-fighter just rides him. Aspinall’s statement probably gets dismissed as just trying to make Jones mad to get the fight though.
Weili vs Xiaonan happened 5 months ago. Maybe you didn't see it because you were in hospital? She debuted 6 years ago and fought 11 times in that span BTW.
@amarisabstractmind6635 the coloured community (black people) does not consider the fact that peds might come into the discussion when talking about the greatest of all time especially when it comes to the undisputed sexual chocolate jon bones jones
@@unkiejaymma yes we do bruh😭 where tf are you getting your information from? no one likes a cheater. The only people not considering that is the ufc and Jon’s fans everybody else knows it.
Hot take, we have enough GOATS that are considered natural to where the stance of "they were all on something" doesn't have to apply anymore. Real combat, natural athletes, we must find out who the best are on an even playing field, not one guy being allowed to tests positive at least 4 times while no Dillashaw win counts.
DC is not a "hater" he is justifiably mad that his career and legacy opportunity got derailed by a man who fought him with something replacing his testosterone.
Seriously though, GSP lost twice only and fucked both guys who beat him up in the rematches.
Usman is so fake and boring.
Man tries so hard to sound mystic and interesting with his slow and "in-depth" conversations.
Beating Colby and masvidal twice shouldn't be enough to get this type of attitude 😂😂
only hardcores know "TIL this DAy!!"
Jones ruined DC's end of career run. I'd be a bit upset as well. Jones is more a Barry Bonds than MJ. Jones will always have an * by his name regardless.
Macau is used as a region because of the higher degree of autonomy foreign companies have compared to other non special administrative regions of china. for example there are gambling industries in macau that are outlawed in other regions. this is handy for ufc for a variety of reasons, advertising and betting companies potentially being included in this event for example.
DC is 8 years older than jones but never ducked, jones is only 6 years older than aspinall…
And somehow Jon now looks older than DC did lol.
@@The-Black-DeathCoke and roids will do that to you
@@OwO-vy2mg das rite
People don’t bring this up enough
Only six years when someone is 37 and the other guy is 31 is a massive difference. Not defending Jones his legacy is terrible
I mean if a PED cheat beat me in a fight that possibly costed me millions of dollars, I’d be his biggest hater too.
Jones fought DC twice yet failed 3 separate events drugs events when he was supposed to fight DC.
That tells us that Jon didn't think he could handle DC while Natty. If Jon is as good as his fans think he is, why couldn't he fight lil ole DC clean? 🤔
Daniel Cormier had suss tests for the fight as well. Look up more plates more dates cormier
@@mikerelva6915he also ducked DC when Cormier became the heavyweight champ. Straight up said that he didn’t have an advantage against him, so he didn’t want to fight him again lol
not just that but he stole DC’s legacy, it’s likely that if DC beat him he’d go up to heavyweight earlier and retire as one of the greatest of all time, if not the greatest.
That's facts, but at the same time you should be on PEDS if you're a fighter, especially if you know how to get away with it. You'd have to be a fool to fight but not find ways to cheat. Don't give me this "it's supposed to be a respect sport nonsense" either.
No doubt JJ has been to a Diddy party 😂
For real 😂
Damn it i was gonna comment this hahahaha
Jon was over at Diddy's party poking everybody in the eye... The brown eye that is!
@@steedbabineaux4401 The "chocolate starfish" if you will 😂
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 😂😂😂
Virgin Jones: Hides under a ring all day to avoid a drug test.
Chad GSP: Demands more tests and then leaves when they don't.
And hendricks was juicing too
Came back juiced out of his mind to fight Bisping though
GSP has had minor roid gut before and gyno haha, plus he greased against BJ Penn. It's whatever though, they all cheat
gsp was juiced to the gills too though
@@WatchingCow No he didn't, he didn't show any signs of ped use, his physique was good but nothing crazy either
If you're black, usman will glaze till no end
True I guess but confused why mmaguru and many of these comments are acting like this is exclusive to black people. Every group biased supports the group they identify with mmaguru does this himself
@eldgepollard5906 that's my issue with what he's saying as well, I've never liked jones🤷♂️
@@eldgepollard5906
GURU's fanbase lacks self awareness
Didn't glaze Edwards, did he?
@@FrenkieWest32 Because he KO Him Lmao.......
Jones gayness transfers to his fans, only explanation for some of these guys defending him
@@travis4256 Jon jones is a gay loser but also GSP cheated. Otherwise Penn would’ve snapped his arm.
@@DolphinsHiLightsOh god not the grease gate😂sure it was Vaseline but acting like Gsp wasn’t dominating Penn before that is insane levels of cope.
@@DolphinsHiLightsYour delusional is hilarious. Penn wasn’t even close to GSP’s level
@@DolphinsHiLights dumb
@DolphinsHiLights bruh even if he greased it doesn't matter that's one instance of something that's barely even cheating if it even is cheating. Jones pokes people in the eye every fight and could have been dq'd twice and he popped 3 times. It's not even a comparison
Kamaru usmans takes are always horrible.
Watched his prediction vids? It's crazy how a good fighter like him can be that bad in explaining how fights could go down 😂
He's trying too hard on this persona. Hate how fake his every conversation is
Kamaru was juiced too so he he has a a soft spot for juicers like Izzy and Jones.
@@nnamggiFellauQrDis it crazy? Belal was right (shocker I know) fighters can’t analyze to save their lives.
Kamaru is racist, so....
Guru should go undercover in Albuquerque as a homeless person to see if Jones is still preying on easy meat
id rather not let Jones "be nice to me" personally
😂
@@JezzaE2003 imagine the content "I WAS SA'D BY JON JONES AND HERES THE PROOF"
@@DeadSpaceMMAhaha that would be amazing
😂
Jones is the Diddy of MMA🌈
Ok Guru nice to admit it 25:54
Daniel Cormier has every right to wish jon jones nothing but the worst for the rest of his life.his life’s work was stolen from him by a cheater, but that’s not even the tip of the iceberg. DC lost his infant daughter in a car accident with a drunk driver. he hardly ever talks about it because of how much it hurts him. jon smashed his company car into a pregnant woman’s car while under the influence and fled the scene. all of their history aside daniel would despise that man for even existing. it’s his right.
That's originally when the Beef started Up and any logic and empathic Human being could fell for The Lady or DC but looks like people only want to see a drug cheater beating 38 years olds middel weight loosing to gustaffson and reyes...failed the most drug test in combat sport history being called the Micheal jordan of the sport
Cry some more. DC cheated to make weight and still jokes about it. Jones beat DC and the "positive" test he had wouldn't even be labeled as positive now. He's just better than DC and proved it.... twice.
@@themonsterbaby😂 dude popped for clomiphene that is irrefutable. Also note T-Bol is literally untested in humans and they just made up rules for Jones.
Like DC has a legitimate better resume in mma, not only was he undefeated in Strike Force but was heavyweight champ, he then goes on to be both light heavyweight and heavyweight champion in the UFC. All this while being clean.
@tylerrobbins8311 We live in a world where leaning on a towel to make weight is more evil than crashing a car into pregnant women, failing drug tests and beating your wife. Telling you dude when it comes to someone they want to religiously defend, morals and ethics don't count anymore.
@@themonsterbaby DC has the Balls to fight positive jones and ur master is deadly ducking aspinall
Anyone else think its suspicious that Marty snoozeman, the CEO of EPO, doesnt think juice should effect legacy?
No one else does
Usman actually did feel that way pre-loss dricus vs Izzy. He’s flipping the script because he doesn’t wanna look weak in the perceived race war.
Stop stealing children Colby’s scripted lines. Be original
@@elvinkrigsman6956 - Trying to act smart, can't even form a proper sentence. Clown! :D
@Redz1991ok Jones glazer
Fuck that. MJ isn’t a cheater and a criminal.
Fr you can compare him to lance armstrong maybe but not frickin MJ lol usman is ridiculous
Plus MJ isn’t gay
@@419HLR his ownership of the hornets has been. L after L. bro got lamelo ball as his mascot because hes "marketable". in other words nba teams draft based on how good looking someone is to make money from sponsorships...
@@johnmarkson1990 it’s the hornets lol he wasn’t exactly working with much. He sold them anyway.
@@johnmarkson1990your argument would make sense if Jon Jones owned a mma company, what are you yapping for?
Bisbing shits on Vitor, but talks highly of Anderson Silva. He's a hypocrite too.
Maybe its because vitor whooped him and Silva lost to bispin
He praised Jon a lot too lmao
Vitor knocked his eye out on trt. You a fool.
@marcelrandall7693 what's being said is that he should talk shit about silva who was on PEDs as well. Bisping doesn't because he beat that PED user and lost to the other
@@marcelrandall7693fool
27:20 Macau is kind of like the Las Vegas of South East Asia. It is not fully governed by China so gambling is still legal, lots of shows and tours go there to appeal to the Chinese market without actually entering China.
Portuguese is an official language in Macau as well
Still baffles me that jones has fans
Bots innit, fuck with your vids keep it up
Been in the UFC since 08, in title fights since 2011, beat more champions than ANYONE in UFC history, a champion in 2 different weight classes. Pretty easy to see why he has fans and why the VAST MAJORITY view him as the GOAT 🐐
I'll be any cheater's fan if I find them entertaining. That's mostly because unlike others I just don't care about these fighter's personal life, neither will I make it my business. Now I also don't blame a fighter for cheating. Edit: Why put energy into these ppl's personal life? You're not going to change anything just by judging, besides that's between him & God the only 1 who can truly judge.
@@stonecold316339but he took peds and beat his wife
Until he got challenged and ran and ran and ran... @stonecold316339
in every legitimate sport once you test positive for steroids you’re done, your legacy is ruined and completely delegitimised, you’re no longer in any GOAT conversations.
But if your Jones, you can fail literally every test under USADA except the OSP fight and the league will then make up some pulsing theory that doesn't exist, and then will up the the thresholds so you can keep using and people won't find out.
Jon didn't even come back to fight Gane til the UFC up the thresholds. Ponder that 💀 As soon as he beat Gane all the simps just lapped it up and totally forgot he was juiced. Literally the only athlete in history that cheated so bad the league changed the rules to let him juice as he was so addicted he couldn't stop.
"Legitimate sports" LMAO 😂
@@mikerelva6915 its hilarious listening to them try to justify it too, “but Dana said…” as if Dana is a trustworthy individual when it comes to any subject in MMA. he’s a promoter, his job is to lie to you to keep you invested in the product at all costs.
@@buddylee5712 here come the knuckle dragging conspiracy theorists who excuse cheating because “everyone’s doing it so my favourites can”.
@@buddylee5712so if everyone’s cheating in every sport, why is it only certain people who manage to pop? you’re innocent until proven guilty, or do you not believe in that concept too
Just a reminder: Jon Jones is TERRIFIED to fight Tom Aspinall.
Just a reminder mma fans are the dumbest ppl on earth.
Best resume in the sport but he's a duck for not fighting the one specific fighter YOU want for his last fight. 😂😂😂😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
OI LISTEN BUDDY
Nope
Tom Aspinall will never amount to what Jones did , he will have one or two title defenses and fade away like everybody else.
@@SmokedOutMediaHave your champagne out for the stipe vs Jon fight, truly a banger 🤣😴😴
3:30 Jon jones is one of the greatest ever and is the one who got me into actually watching MMA because of the Machido fight….THAT BEING SAID…it has taken me at least 5 months of this year to get to the point where I’ve rationalized that JJ is kind of a bit of a little bit of a chance of a possibility of a fraud
13:30 For anyone wondering Usman's father was convicted health care fraud and money laundering in 2010 in Texas. He was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment and ordered to pay $1,300,000. He was released in 2021. He'd also previously been convicted for theft and drunk driving.
Kamaru is the CEO of EPO.
Now it's Merab
No it’s Lebron James
If you think it's an insult it's not, all you're doing is bragging about how smart he is when it comes to this situation.
@@DarrenReddix-j2nyes it’s an insult because you are not allowed to use EPO, that being said you’re correct about usman being smart about the situation
@@1jaedan
That's the thing though just because it's not allowed doesn't mean it shouldn't be, that's a compliment if anything.
I swear despite DC being an ok commentator but I respect him for being the only guy who calls out Jones while everyone else bootlicks him to avoid flak.
DC actually still scks off for example he said that Jones vs Stipe is the biggest fight ever etc. I guess he has to bc he is paid by ESPN
@@Herbert_Rudolfbecause he knows that old Stipe is going to destroy Jon Jones and shock everybody
DC cheated with the towel for a champ fight, tested for 8 times the highest normal level of testosterone when he fought Jon, and went into the fight planning the eye gouge Stipe nonstop.
@@tacotacotington3638 lol being overweight is a LOT better than using steroids your entire career
@@tacotacotington3638 Cry
GSP, Jones, and DJ all have losses, but GSP is the only one who has avenged every loss.
02:17 as a German, that hit differently
Lolll
The amount of people that shit on DC and call him a hater for not being cool with a guy who stained his career permanently and was a cheating criminal the whole time is sad. Like my dad is a massive casual, and I have to explain to him, the man who got me into sports as a whole, something so basic as Jon Jones being a dogshit human. I brought up DC, and my dad goes "DC was a wimp." Like how can you even say that shit man. The casual fans vilify the wrong people in sports, including DC.
DC gets the most amount of hate out of anyone in the sport yet has consistently been one of the actual guys you'd want your kid to look up in regards to professional prize fighters. He's been professional, honest, and been the punching bag for the UFC to give Jones every chance possible. Literally the worst thing anyone can say about Daniel, outside I guess if you know him personally, is that he's biased toward the AKA guys like Khabib and Islam. MMA is awesome, the fandom can be truly retarded.
Most people don't care about morality until it affects them as an individual, and when that morality is affecting someone that is different from them perhaps they will even be compliant or possibly in support of it.
Your dad got bummed by jones
@@Gmark25Let’s not be mistaken here, Cormier was on PEDs for the Jones fight too, his test levels were through the roof. Everything said about Jones is true, but DC was not a clean angel.
@@VerzirooDC's levels weren't that insane where it was sure that he was on ped's
Usman always talks in this grandiose tone like he’s revealing some deeply profound insight us mere peasants wouldn’t be aware of 😂
Favourite way I've heard it described is he's trying to tell a spooky story around a campfire
Yeap, it is annoying
@@chriscooper1449it’s so condescending. The way he slows down his cadence too 😂
Brain injuries finally catching up with usman ..
Pretentious
Jon Jones is the Lance Armstrong of MMA
yup. if jones was even light skin he would be disqualified as the goat.
how does that work tho didnt lance arms take most of the heat for multiple different people that also cheated? jones didnt do that
Another good comparison would be Barry Bonds.
@@johnmarkson1990Why
@@Rembot not sure. steph curry faces some weird backlash for no reason even though he carries usa basketball.
I'm so tired of Jon Jones I can't wait for him to retire, and the sport moves on from him.
I ain't watching the Stipe fight
@@Stefan996I’m only gonna watch it in the hopes that jones gets TKO’d by a senior citizen then stipe retires in the cage n gives Aspinall the belt
Honestly though the sport isn’t “moving on” from jones or Conor or any of that eras fighters, the sport is literally doing worse than it’s ever done, it’s going down hill fast and once there is no more 2013-2018 era guys, the sport is finished
@@Chocolatesauce._if you’re smart you’ll stream it illegally. Two can play that illegal game
jj is a good person. He drives around the middle of the night during a pandemic look for "homeless men to help"
Guru vs Schimty. Super heavy weight fight.
Loser has to eat merabs corn bread
Jones and Dana enter a room. Dana Jones Jr comes out.
Yall some glazing haters😂
gay goat
Does GSP not exist
He was scared of Nate
@@ErickFideoMaruHe beat his bigger older brother in his prime you tart
Gso greased heavily and once actual ped testing came into picture, he just dipped.
@@imma5761he never popped, jones did, he didnt fight washed severily undersized fighters, never eye poked
@@s66s46 jon didnt pop before the actual steroid testing company came into picture either.
So that argument is actually, trash because gsp could have fought once more and prove he was clean bit he literally ran away(even tho he was very vocal about ped testing just before usada got introduced).
He also fought 155ers who went to 170 lmfao.
Real rich coming from a drug cheat himself in usman who had a literal boob and acne all over his body. Dc should’ve called them both out in that moment I’m sure that would’ve went viral
lmaoooo
31:07 killing Chiesa is wild
Can’t believe that Jon jones still has people defending him
(((Certain))) people
It's mostly alphabet community
@@szczypi0rekwhos that?
@@s66s46 lqbtqwerty+-/)&$#@ weirdos
@@s66s46 lgbtqwerty+-/)&$#@ weirdos
*Dana is so focused on Jones being Jordan but he doesn’t see he has a Tom Brady in Tom Aspinall*
But Tom Brady is nowhere near as good as Jordan at basketball. Same with Tom
😂😂
@@Mixed-Media-Arts well I’d like to see an in depth analysis then since you know it all 😂
Jordan has 6 rings
Brady has 7 rings
Enough data for me I think
@@Mixed-Media-Arts more like mixed-melanin-arts
In all of the debates Dana had with journalists about JJ, none of them ever mentioned the multiple failed drug tests.
Videos like this are needed and refreshing, thank you Guru.
I don’t care if DC lost ONE fight against jones. He’s still greater.
It’s actually crazy people act like jones is hated for no reason 😹 how could you seriously look at what happened to DC and think it’s unreasonable to still hate jones
Should i make 1 hour video about o malley winning fight that he lost to prove how non biased and real i am?
Infinite respect for DC but even if it were a clean fight, almost everyone would have had their money on Jones. There is a gulf between him and all the other fighters in UFC.
Cause all DC does is whine like a 🐈
@Ab_Irato the fights with DC weren't even that one-sided and the fights with Reyes and Gus and Santos definitely weren't one-sided so that's absolute nonsense what you're saying.
@@FrenkieWest32 let’s break that down. Let’s talk about jones vs dc 2. That ending was the most magnificent thing I had ever seen. DC was beat soundly.The way he spun dc around was just insane. Reyes fight was the closest in my opinion. As for the Gus fight I give 1,4 and 5 to Jon. Lyoto machida fight was losing for Jon but he submitted him beautifully. When I talk about the gulf I am talking about the gulf that separates the GOAT from a top 10 fighter. No one has beaten him. Whatever you throw at him he overcomes it. Not to mention the man is the most talented in UFC history. No one could have done what he has done all the while wasting his time partying and snorting coke. Reducing his greatness to PED use and eye pokes is just plain deceptive. Like DC said it’s not a rivalry if you lose twice 🤷.
The only comparison i agree with between jordan and jones is that jones HW run will be similar to jordans wizards run, basically irrelevant in history
Without guru, the ufc would be unbearable. I can halfway enjoy this corruption knowing guru, redpill, and glass cannon will speak truth and logic.
You guys don’t just enjoy the fights?😂😂
Thanks for being the only one in mma media who always speaks facts about these things. We know why
Love the video my man. I’m proud to be subscribed to the realest mma channel on the face of the earth
Jones fans shouldn't be allowed to vote
People like you who think that everyone should think exactly like you shouldn’t be able to vote
They're democrats. Cheating is in their DNA and their motto is ends justifies the means. They still back Biden is for fux sake
Blacks basically, agreed
Jon jones is probably the only athlete I genuinely dislike. However, this are such silly statements every fan base has fools and every group of people has fools
Claiming an entire race shouldn’t vote is fairly idiotic
I reckon guru feels joy anytime jones is in the news so he can make a video
Him saying anything about jones or dana is completely irrelevant because of 1 hour glaze he did on 2 malley losing cleanly lost fight, grasping for straws of "well he hit that leg kick more clean guyzzzzzzz, 3 minute of gnp means nothing, 2 mallwy hit his leg kick guyzzzzzzz"
Facts lmao it’s half of his recent videos the man tosses and turns at night thinking abt this
@@agkizzy5405 No it isn't but you're black so I get it
The older I get the more I understand DC and why he hated Jon so much
When I was young I hated Jones and cheered for DC nothing has changed since
Bro yall some slimy ass haters😂
Keep on keeping it real!
MMA casuals have smooth brains
DC is 5"11 fighting in real man weight class, against PED cheat Jon Jones who KOs him in one of the most brutal knockouts ever. Jon Jones doesn't have a high fight IQ, he has massive frame which allows him to do "high IQ" things that other fights would be able to do, but can't because they are not as genetically advantaged. It's actually more impressive DC did what he did whilst being massively undersized (bone length wise) for his weight class.
I wonder why DC hates him...
Jon was Like 5 inches taller, ft long reach, and 7 yrs younger lol
Plus DC was undersized and Champion in TWO divisions. DC defended both belts. He is a great representative of the sport unlike Jones.
It’s no wonder jones is ducking aspinall where that massive frame won’t cut it anymore
I *think* DC said he’s actually about 5’9”-5’10.” Splitting hairs though. A colossus of a man, even if not in stature
Number one MMA RUclipsr
Alrite Karen.
Lucas Tracy
@@AuvisomeGuru has more subs, I like both though.. along with Bedtime, Leftlane, Hoppero, cageside convos, and I’ll even watch MMA Joeys annoying ass💀
@@hudboys8120 can I ask you what the purpose of this reply was?
@@Auvisome what’s the point of any reply? Just making conversation
None of these ‘goats’ your talking about have German shepherds like jones tho
That’s so dark, bro.
That’s a BAD MAN
He has a belgian shepherd not a german shepherd
@@botondbakos5954Dutch sheppard, thats why the dog is called Dutch
Brock lesner owns a whole farm, he’s starting to sound like a bad dude, when you really think about pfp, brock is the guy
Jon Jones is the Barry Bonds of MMA, not the MJ.
Jones is the Lebron James of MMA. They both do PED’s, both have a manufactured and overrated legacy with inflated stats.
I just HOPE they upload the BELAL POD. Because that was apperently crazy
Jones lost to Reyes when Reyes had like 5 years of MMA training and you honestly could give Santos the nod in their fight if you really look at it. Visually his knee was funky but he did more. Jones will always be in the goat convo but the push to deem him the overall supreme goat, is definitely mainstream Media/ESPN driven. Especially when you consider how they never criticize him even though he's the biggest steroid cheat in modern UFC history and has physically assaulted women. Meanwhile the Media crucifies some fighters (Sean Strickland) for hurting people's feelings with words. The double standards are too real lol.
Two tier media.
GSP is the real GOAT. Never cheated and avenged his losses. Jones has had a better career than GSP overall but Jones cheated plane and simple
You cant have a better career if you cheated.
Gsp is the goat but the losers telling people who like is such sheepish behavior…
@@Gekkcospeak English
Usman unironically uses the "with great power comes great responsibilty" line frequently on that pod, match that with cejudo youre in for some pain
I HOPE THEY UPLOAD THE belal episode!
Guru I love you man. I love that you’re not a corporate chill like some of these other influencers are a.k.a. Nina drama and others. You have such a big platform but you call out BS when you see it even compared to other Mma RUclipsr for what you do! My comment was in regards to the John Jones thing
Jones: PED's, constant intentional eye pokes, 3 fights he arguably lost - Gustuffson, Santos, Reyes, all who showed to be mid-tier fighters afterward, a terrible role model with bad criminal record, only cares about himself
DC: no PED's, "less" intentional eye pokes, 2 division champ, great role model and team player, oh yeah and no PED's...
Yes, Jones is better but DC is rightfully upset at these statements with these guys glazing Jones.
I hate the word goat now. People will win their debut via razor close split decision, and all the dummy's online will be like 'damn, he's the goat!!'
The word goat has completely lost its weight
No they dont? Stop looking for attention. You have undefeated fighters like khamzat and ian garry getting thrashed needlessly but you claim fans are calling debutants the goat? 😂 stop talking
@@dangerousfelon sure bud. I'm looking for attention. But you're not.
It became an actual Goat😂
@@TheScience69great response dummy lol
The jones d riders are unreal
Do you honestly think flu game was possible without steroids?
Do you think thes had any ped testing back in 90s? They dont have it rn in nba lmfao
Islam popped for peds, and himself admitted he was on juice as younger but now he is, suddenly clean?
Everyone is on steroids, jon is just more stupid not to use them as others who didnt fail
@@imma5761holy cope😭🙏
No, the Jones haters are way worse now
@@Gekkcodoes jj congratulate you when you’re finished?
Why is it hard to comprehend that DC has every right to hate Jon jones.
I hope he continues the hate 'til the end. Jon is a disgraceful coward.
And why is it so hard to comprehend that just because he got lost 2 times doesn’t mean that everyone has to kiss his ass and take his side..
@@Gekkcoyou have terrible grammar + DC was way older and fighting a roided jones in his prime.
@@Gekkcowhat?
I covered a reason why DC is mad and it's more than just their rivalry. To think such DC has worked so hard and accomplished so much in his career without the need for PEDs especially in a time when USADA was less strict and you had a lot of fighters already on PEDs, it is a slap in the face to compare someone who cheated throughout his career to a legend like MJ.
I’m from Macau (live in Britain now though), pretty exciting to have an event come to us. I agree it’s a weird location on paper, but then you clock that it’s basically Chinese Las Vegas, getting all its money from casinos and shows. Looks like the fight’s being hosted by Galaxy, which is a huge complex of shops, casinos, hotels and other venues. Won’t be able to see it live but I’m glad Macau’ll be getting some attention from the mma community.
Bring back Lucas T Fitness
I've gained exponential weight since he left
@@gnm4 the cookbook is a scam!!
@@PiggyGuru123 The recipes aren’t good that’s how I lost weight
@@gnm4 Lol
Unsubscribing if you don’t talk about Wang Congs fight
Our glorious king
Wang Cong is him
Lmao i thought its a dude at first
@HeliodromusScorpio no that's her brother you're thinking of... Wang Dong.
@@steedbabineaux4401 What about Long Ding Dong?
last time i was this early, people still thought JJ was straight.
times change
19:20 “oooo this guys in great shape”😂😭
Thank you for this, 10/10 as always!
Jordan is the GOAT.
basketball is a team game, just don't even make the comparison with the sports..
Usman is literally only ever popular when people are feeling contrarian
A lot of people enjoyed his title run. Sure he has bad takes but a ton of people prefer his title run to belal and leons boring fights
Holy shit guru I barely noticed you’re at 227k subscribers bro you’ve came a long freaking way
Thanks Guru, was waiting for this! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Jon Jones the biggest duck he left light heavy weight to avoid Jan he was afraid of a 205 fighter that was bigger than him
KHABIB DUCKED TONY 💯
Tony ducked Khabib too.
in reality, Khabib would have mauled Tony. It's obvious.
The conspiracy theory is Khabib gave Tony the Nancy Kerrigan treatment and Tony never "tripped over a wire" lol
delusional just like tony
I hate kahbib but let’s live in reality tony would have got destroyed kahbib has zero reason to fear tony
@@allybaapp1053they both ducked each other at different points. Earlier on in their "rivalry", Tony had a much better chance against Khabib because Khabib wasn't quite as dominant and Tony was at his peak around the RDA fight. As time went on, Khabib became much better and would've easily beat Tony
Jon is the best, Just because the others didn't pop doesn't mean they weren't using.
That’s exactly what it means. Everyone was tested
@@thewalruswasjason101 honest question, do you understand doping?
Anti doping agencies test for known substances, from the beginning of time athletes with money have been using tailored drugs that are not detected by the current testing methods. All of your favourite fighters were/are juicing.
Jones, Khabib, Silva, GSP, Mighty Mouse, Fedor were all juicing, and in my opinion Jon was the best of them.
@@PortoPaulok Mr PhD doping expert
“DC still hates the guy who cheated his entire career and also cheated DC out of the rest of his career in doing so… what a sore loser!!!!!”
Guru is right. If you’re not calling it out, you’re on it. That why I’m not on the O’Malley train
Jon jones is the most Overrated fighter of all time
Him or Conor Mcgregor
@@drunkenmmamaster419 well I don’t think Conor is overrated because he’s never cheated and everything he won was clean not a fan boy I just think he gets too much disrespect nowadays but Jon jones gets in these conversations after all the failed tests and not to mention the absolute scumbag that he is outside the cage.
@@drunkenmmamaster419Conor is more underrated atp
@@Footb_All111the bias is wild rn
@@Gekkco how he’s a cheater and he’s lost multiple fights let’s be real, reyes, santos , Gus, and on top of that he’s a piece of trash person.
365 days, and Guru still hasn’t lost 1kg...
Perfect timing I literally just opened RUclips to find my nightly ufc video to fall asleep to thanks baby cakes🎉
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me too 😌🙏
DC accolades are way better than Jones. He was way older and a less of a physical specimen than Jones but still held two belts and defended them both.
0:52 this shot of usman's statement and dc's response gives similar vibes to when cejudo told usman it's time to call ddp the king of africa after he beat izzy lol
I am not defending Jones as person at all..., but this thing that he only faught with peds in UFC is simply false..., DC look more plates more dates he was also on the gear, he faught Henderson, Lyotto, OSP, Chael, TRT Victor all the guys that use peds and failed at least once...., there is a reason why fighters call him goat cause 85%+ of them are on something....
Jon was on gear post usada, those guys weren't. And the ufc willingly let him use gear then cover for him and lie for him and make up bs excuses. So Jon is different. A lot of fighters call him the GOAT because they've also met him personally or know him and look up to him cause he's one of the biggest og's in mma. And i think it's fair for someone to say that he's the goat but to say he's the Michael Jordan of mma is just stupid as hell
@@botondbakos5954 and the problem is you don’t know that you don’t know if these people are still on steroids you only know what is exposed
@@botondbakos5954 dude stop coping now the reason why they call John’s the goat is not because they know him because of his résumé like this is a shit I’m talking about you guys are so biased you wont be objective.
kamaru only praises jon cos he's "african".
We don't claim jones! Stay away from Africa Jon!! He's the p diddy of mma
Everyone trashes Jones for PEDs but IGNORE TF outta Anderson popping hot too.
“wElL tHaTs diFfEreNt”
I keep that energy for all cheaters. Lesnar, Jones, and Silva all popped hot. I have a strong suspicion that many others were cheating but never got caught.
True that is a bias but I can tell you why it’s because Anderson Silva consistently fought the best of the best his entire career and never ran jon jones has spent 5 years straight dodging his top competition Andersons had balls when pushing 50 jones is making excuses when he’s not even 40 yet Anderson it’s pretty easy to see why people respect anderson and not jones
or the fact GSP spent his entire career in the pre USADA era and ducked Whittaker
@@stonecold316339 GSP is also very public about his anti-doping stance. If you take him for his word he never cheated, but personally I find that very unlikely.
@@stonecold316339how did he duck him?
Tom Aspinall is the only fighter I can think of that has invalidated Jones’ goat status due to failed PED tests. Every other fighter or ex-fighter just rides him. Aspinall’s statement probably gets dismissed as just trying to make Jones mad to get the fight though.
DC has always kept it real! Awesome video kept it up! 👏😤
DC based
Weili vs Xiaonan happened 5 months ago. Maybe you didn't see it because you were in hospital? She debuted 6 years ago and fought 11 times in that span BTW.
Denying Jon Jones being GOAT is absolutely stupid, he's undeniably the Gayest Of All Time
GOAT
There hasn't been an MJ of MMA yet. If there had been, we'd all know it.
Glad we got our ol' guru back. Thought we lost him at Noche UFC.
Hey Guru, don't forget the well-known story of Jones hiding under the cage at his gym to avoid the drug testers.
It rarely gets mentioned.
3:10 its the blacks
What
Yup
@amarisabstractmind6635 the coloured community (black people) does not consider the fact that peds might come into the discussion when talking about the greatest of all time especially when it comes to the undisputed sexual chocolate jon bones jones
@@unkiejaymma yes we do bruh😭 where tf are you getting your information from? no one likes a cheater. The only people not considering that is the ufc and Jon’s fans everybody else knows it.
@@amarisabstractmind6635 and that's why you reported my comment? Who's we¿ I wouldn't know 🤣🤡💀
I have aids
Interesting
Good
Stay away from the brown ones. Guru has no choice
@@WhereIsSchmitty everyone was at the aids party and not one person thought where’s schmitty?
-Diddy and Jon Jones at the Doctor's office
He’s not the Michael Jordan. He’s the Barry Bonds. He’s the Lance Armstrong. He’s the Alex Rodriguez.
Everybody forget that DC had the testosterone levels of 20 combined adult males for the first jones fight?