I love when RUclips algorithm recommends these type of videos. Seeing this I had to click on it, it reminded me of the better days of RUclips and I’m glad I did 😁
@@RosieBergonzi I actually have a tongue drum (Nova Drum 17") and am about 3 months in to studying it. A lot of the ideas are common (eg my drum is D-Celtic tuned) but there is little if any info out there. So clear explanations like yours are an utter godsend. Many thanks again.
Thanks so much for this Rosie!!! I've been navigating this tutorial with an E SabyeD... it's a bit different for sure; especially since my "tonic" chord does not have the ding..... however, I have discovered other melodies with chords that do have the ding (E3) in them. This was a very pleasant tutorial to follow..... thanks again!
Hi Devin, that's interesting your tonic chord should be E, which I would have expected the ding to be in! (E, G#,B) If you write out your notes I can have a look for you...!
Another great video Rosie!. Quick question. I've seen some other peoples videos and they seem to number their notes starting directly at the base moving left to right 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc. Do you know why they would number in this way? I have a B kurd frog drum( "double ding ") similar to the rav vast 1so mine starts at the base 5,6,7. I hope this question makes sense.
This is the numbers some people use to put them in positions. I prefer to use PanScript to show where to play and harmony numbers where one is the home number!
Boy what an eye opener. Super video. I am talking with Elaia on buying a pan. Can you start to play on a 20 note but start off like I was on a 9 note.Is that possible to just play those 9 notes then as I be learn start adding more notes. I am a b musician plus play drums. Multiple instrument player...
I'm still a bit confused about the numbering. I have a Pygmy Rav, which I think is a minor scale with a flattened 5th (not that I understand what that means!)
Hello, is your RAV G Pygmy? If so this video is made for you...! Hopefully that helps a little let me know if you have more questions! ruclips.net/video/oIbdh_iXfyg/видео.html
I understand the lettering and the chords for my C# handpan but I cannot understand how to make them sound like you do, I'm confused even though I'm watching again and again...
@@RosieBergonzi Thanks for replying! I have a C# Annaziska so: C# C# E G# F# D# B G# A. I might have typed it out of order, I don't know if they should be written down in a specific manner/order.
@@WispHandle okay so if you write them in alphabetical order you get c# 1 d#2 E3 F#4 G#5 A6 and B7 so you can build chords using the 1/3/5 system I explain in the video! I hope that helps 😊
Hi Rosie. I'm playing on an A Integral RAV, which, as far as I can work out means I have no note number 7, hence my chord number 5 (dominant) is just notes 5 & 2 - F & B - which really do not seem to sound very good together at all! Have I got myself mixed up somewhere along the line, or is this just a bit of an odd scale? Thanks!
Hello, yes I think you have got a little muddled. How did you write out the numbers/ letters? Its a pan between major and minor so if we double check the letter notes against the numbers I got A1 B2 C3 (D4) E5 F6 G7 (Minor version) or C1 (D2) E3 F4 G5 A6 B7 Either way you're not left with just F+B Does that help? Do let me know how you worked it out, I don't know this pan so I'm just having a guess from what I've seen online :)
@@RosieBergonzi Hi Rosie. Thanks for the reply. Well, I don't know one note from another myself (!) but, according to the RAV website, the notes on an A Integral are: A2 C3 E3 F3 G3 A3 B3 C4 E4. So then if I write them out in order as I think I've understood, that gives me: A(1), B(2), C(3), E(4), F(5), & G(6). I don't see that there's any D in the scale, so I'm not sure how you're getting that in there? So then if the Dominant is 5, 7, 2, & I don't actually have a 7 (as I believe you said can sometimes happen?), then that leaves me with just the 5 & the 2 (F & B) - no...? Or am I supposed to insert "virtual" notes that don't actually exist on the instrument (i.e. the D in this case), when assigning numbers to notes...? Thanks!
So if I do insert the D as my number 4, & shift E, F, G up to 5, 6, 7. That just leaves me with the Supertonic (2 & 6 - i.e. that same B & F combination) that kind of sounds a bit dissonant - would that make more sense? Or are all these combinations meant to sound "pleasant"...?
Hello! Yes I should have clarified every note of the scale (the alphabet) is given a number even if it doesn't appear on your particular pan. So leave a space for the D in the numbering and you should get nicer sounding chords. That way if you ever get a second pan with that number on you can slot it in and see how thst sounds (maybe try with a piano app or similar for now just to experience it!) These should all quite sound nice when combined together and not very clashy at all. Does that help?
Because you don't have a 4 to play, the Supertonic is a bit ungrounded. And because it's a minor pan your chord 2 is a diminished one (neither major nor minor) which sounds a little unusual. I think I'm going to make a video about different types of chords next which might clear up a bit of this a little more its a biiiig topic! Thanks for asking these questions and inspiring me.
You 2 4 6 progression sounds off tune. One of the note is a little bit “false”. I reckon it’s Bb. Have you checked the pan notes with a tuner? Don’t know who is the maker of your pan, but i know that each one has a particular way to tuning their instruments and maybe this slightly off tune note is actually intentional.
Well finding out the notes of your handpan is a great first step! You can use a free guitar tuner app to find out or compare them to the notes on a piano! I hope they helps
I love when RUclips algorithm recommends these type of videos. Seeing this I had to click on it, it reminded me of the better days of RUclips and I’m glad I did 😁
That's so kind, honestly this comment really made me smile. So glad you enjoyed the video (thanks algorithm!!)
This is beyond awesome! thanks so much for putting this out there. Really liking this series.
Thank you! Do you have a pan and if so which one?
@@RosieBergonzi I actually have a tongue drum (Nova Drum 17") and am about 3 months in to studying it. A lot of the ideas are common (eg my drum is D-Celtic tuned) but there is little if any info out there. So clear explanations like yours are an utter godsend. Many thanks again.
@@puppetmastercoaching7388 excellent! I'm so glad it's helpful with your tonguepan. Is the Novapan one of the tunable ones?
wow it's really helpful! really easy to understand chords on handpan!
Yay that's exactly my intention! I'm so glad to hear that!
Hey Rosie, I just tried with my F Low Pygmy and it was terrific!! Tks sooo much :)
Hurrah! Did you find all the chords you need okay? Wonderful!
I have this handpan and can not seem to find my way around through this video 😞
Which notes create the tonic chord on the low f pygmy scale?
F, Ab and C ☺️
Thanks so much for this Rosie!!! I've been navigating this tutorial with an E SabyeD... it's a bit different for sure; especially since my "tonic" chord does not have the ding..... however, I have discovered other melodies with chords that do have the ding (E3) in them. This was a very pleasant tutorial to follow..... thanks again!
Hi Devin, that's interesting your tonic chord should be E, which I would have expected the ding to be in! (E, G#,B) If you write out your notes I can have a look for you...!
Thanks Rosie! This was really helpful you explained it well.
I'm so glad it was useful!
T.Y. Rosie! Bless Up and Blaze On! Cheers!
You're so welcome! Which pan do you have? :)
Another great video Rosie!. Quick question. I've seen some other peoples videos and they seem to number their notes starting directly at the base moving left to right 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc. Do you know why they would number in this way? I have a B kurd frog drum( "double ding ") similar to the rav vast 1so mine starts at the base 5,6,7. I hope this question makes sense.
This is the numbers some people use to put them in positions. I prefer to use PanScript to show where to play and harmony numbers where one is the home number!
Boy what an eye opener. Super video. I am talking with Elaia on buying a pan. Can you start to play on a 20 note but start off like I was on a 9 note.Is that possible to just play those 9 notes then as I be learn start adding more notes. I am a b musician plus play drums. Multiple instrument player...
Yes! Just use the notes on the top then start slowly adding more lower notes! But don't get overwhelmed
Please help me to find the exact scale of my handpan. Its notes are , Eb3 (ding), A3, Bb3, D4, F4, A4, G4, E4, C4
Sounds like an Eb Lydian (Golden Gate) which is Bb Major or G minor
Awesome!! Thank you!! D Kurd here.
Hurrah, hopefully it was helpful and made sense!
要是用上muling H1 handpick 就更好了
Great! Try that then!
This is cool
Thanks!
I'm still a bit confused about the numbering. I have a Pygmy Rav, which I think is a minor scale with a flattened 5th (not that I understand what that means!)
Hello, is your RAV G Pygmy? If so this video is made for you...! Hopefully that helps a little let me know if you have more questions! ruclips.net/video/oIbdh_iXfyg/видео.html
I understand the lettering and the chords for my C# handpan but I cannot understand how to make them sound like you do, I'm confused even though I'm watching again and again...
Which pan do you have? If you write out all the letter names you have I'll see if I can help 🤗
@@RosieBergonzi Thanks for replying! I have a C# Annaziska so: C# C# E G# F# D# B G# A.
I might have typed it out of order, I don't know if they should be written down in a specific manner/order.
@@WispHandle okay so if you write them in alphabetical order you get c# 1 d#2 E3 F#4 G#5 A6 and B7 so you can build chords using the 1/3/5 system I explain in the video! I hope that helps 😊
@@WispHandle keep watching.... I have a video on C# annaziska coming out very soon 😊 and a few already out there!
Hi Rosie. I'm playing on an A Integral RAV, which, as far as I can work out means I have no note number 7, hence my chord number 5 (dominant) is just notes 5 & 2 - F & B - which really do not seem to sound very good together at all! Have I got myself mixed up somewhere along the line, or is this just a bit of an odd scale? Thanks!
Hello, yes I think you have got a little muddled. How did you write out the numbers/ letters? Its a pan between major and minor so if we double check the letter notes against the numbers I got A1 B2 C3 (D4) E5 F6 G7 (Minor version) or C1 (D2) E3 F4 G5 A6 B7 Either way you're not left with just F+B
Does that help? Do let me know how you worked it out, I don't know this pan so I'm just having a guess from what I've seen online :)
@@RosieBergonzi Hi Rosie. Thanks for the reply. Well, I don't know one note from another myself (!) but, according to the RAV website, the notes on an A Integral are: A2 C3 E3 F3 G3 A3 B3 C4 E4. So then if I write them out in order as I think I've understood, that gives me: A(1), B(2), C(3), E(4), F(5), & G(6). I don't see that there's any D in the scale, so I'm not sure how you're getting that in there? So then if the Dominant is 5, 7, 2, & I don't actually have a 7 (as I believe you said can sometimes happen?), then that leaves me with just the 5 & the 2 (F & B) - no...? Or am I supposed to insert "virtual" notes that don't actually exist on the instrument (i.e. the D in this case), when assigning numbers to notes...? Thanks!
So if I do insert the D as my number 4, & shift E, F, G up to 5, 6, 7. That just leaves me with the Supertonic (2 & 6 - i.e. that same B & F combination) that kind of sounds a bit dissonant - would that make more sense? Or are all these combinations meant to sound "pleasant"...?
Hello! Yes I should have clarified every note of the scale (the alphabet) is given a number even if it doesn't appear on your particular pan. So leave a space for the D in the numbering and you should get nicer sounding chords. That way if you ever get a second pan with that number on you can slot it in and see how thst sounds (maybe try with a piano app or similar for now just to experience it!) These should all quite sound nice when combined together and not very clashy at all. Does that help?
Because you don't have a 4 to play, the Supertonic is a bit ungrounded. And because it's a minor pan your chord 2 is a diminished one (neither major nor minor) which sounds a little unusual. I think I'm going to make a video about different types of chords next which might clear up a bit of this a little more its a biiiig topic! Thanks for asking these questions and inspiring me.
You 2 4 6 progression sounds off tune. One of the note is a little bit “false”. I reckon it’s Bb. Have you checked the pan notes with a tuner? Don’t know who is the maker of your pan, but i know that each one has a particular way to tuning their instruments and maybe this slightly off tune note is actually intentional.
Hey, thanks for this! Yes the Bb is starting to go a bit flat... well spotted! I think I should take it along to a tuner at some point soon! Cheers :)
Yea you lost me in the first minute i got my handpan from a 3rd party have no idea which notes
Well finding out the notes of your handpan is a great first step! You can use a free guitar tuner app to find out or compare them to the notes on a piano! I hope they helps
"No Music Theory required" "Write out every single one of your letter names in order" - What letters, what names? lol
Cool video though
Lol the names of the notes you have on your pan! 😂 Which instrument do you have?