Diversity without SHARED VALUES is a recipe for DISASTER! Rakib Ehsan on the lessons from the UK
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- In this speech, Dr Rakib Ehsan, a British commentator and author of "Beyond Grievance: what the Left gets wrong about ethnic minorities", explains how Britain failed to offer a policy of integration of immigrants.
As he explains, without a focus on the shared values of the nation-state, immigration can risk tearing a society apart.
This was a speech from MCC Brussel's special conference "The Diversity Obsession: Can Europe survive multiculturalism?".
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Diversity..segregation..Balkanisation..disintegration...
"Diversity is our strength. Thats a trope that we assume is right because we want to be tolerant and inclusive. But I have always suspected its bullshit.
Instead became nations of tribes. Diversity failed because the local culture was demeaned, belittled, cancelled. The culture that made these countries prosperous and a magnet for others, was smothered and other primitive divisive cultures promoted to the point of becoming compulsory.
Values are a start but history, rituals, holidays, practises, worship, interests, productivities are all necessary to be part of a family. A nation IS an extended family of people with traits. Isn't this difference & uniqueness what we LOVE about travel - that people are different from us??!! Thats the whole point of going to other places!! I don't want to travel and everywhere I go looks like New York!
Well said.
Good points
I choose not to go where it is culturally acceptable to treat women or animals very badly.
Now third world "values" concerning women and animals are firmly established in Sweden and it is no longer safe for women to be in a public space in daytime or to leave a dog in a locked car or fenced garden in urban areas. The veneer of tolerance is wearing very thin and the loathing of "diversity" is increasing exponentially.
Artificial values imposed from above to attempt to fix a broken society would only break it more
Excellent points. I myself wrote, in an essay in a course on multiculturalism that I took,about the laissez-faire approach to various cultures living together in Western countries when they had open hostilities between them in their country of origin. It is an example of the arrogance and immature attitude of those that implement such policies.
I would say it's more an example of the arrogance and immaturity of citizens showing hostility.
@@dannysullivan3951 I don't understand what you mean.
@@dawnemile7499 Am I incorrect in assuming that you mean multiculturalism is a bad idea? I would argue that it is one of America's greatest attributes, one that will eventually dominate the planet.
@@dannysullivan3951America is a failing decaying society. What rock have you been under??
@@dannysullivan3951You are quite naive. I still can’t believe that you haven’t figured out that multiculturalism only works when you had the one population overwhelming the other groups with their numbers and single dominant culture. (White American culture) White folk in America of Euro descendants are approaching are now nearly only 50% of the total population from 90%+ in 1965. The country is collapsing and you’re clearly so blind to its rapid decay.
Dr Ehsan, I hope people listen to your points and suggestions, many people appear to be either unaware or in denial of these realities.
What about the radical and extremist speeches given in mosques across the UK, far more extremist than anything on the far right. In fact, the far right has always been borne out of a reaction to extremism on the other side. You want to diminish the extreme right then first you must diminish radical religious views and actions as well as the actions of the radical left.
Yes, the preoccupation with the "extreme right" (ie not postmarxist) is ludicrous.
Western Europe is invaded by aggressive clans driven by values rooted in pre- medieaval cultures. Now that is really something for the triggerwarning dependent LGBT communities and other progressive identitarians to cry about.
@@annkristinbarnes4596 we saw what they thought of the rainbow flag during their last rally.
This gent needs to come to Ottawa & Toronto Canada and spread the word - the natural born citizens know what a mess fast-tracked Multiculturalism is-been playing out in real time for all to bear witness
What is the responsibility of the parents of the immigrant children? The government is not there to parent immigrants' children. The parents need to take responsibility of bringing up their children
Integration strategies are a good idea but the very simple question that would follow for English people is why? Why do we need to do this, we're trying to keep a roof over our head, maintain families, communities and the country, why do we need to become a product of social engineering? Why do we want different competing religions and hostile ideologies in our country? Why do we need to be constantly be taught about racism around people we had no choice over whether they came? Why are we adding these extra things to make life harder for the English while also reducing their demographics? It doesn't make any sense and will certainly lead to the destruction of the English. This should frighten all people in England because without English people you're not living in what you thought was England anymore, you're living somewhere else, imagine London but country wide.
For imperialistic reasons. The most common one would be descendants of South Vietnam and Hong Kongers in US and UK protesting outside the embassies of those countries
If they need someone to destabilize China, they get someone from the community living in US/UK to be a spy
If they need someone to destabilize Russia or Iran, they get someone from the community living in US/UK to do the same
If you believe in society, you are a collectivist. Collectivism and multiculturalism is the perfect recipe for conflict and civil war.
The problem is collectivism. You need to believe in personal values and responsibilities and not in collective characteristics.
We must vote out the torys and labour out of our politics! We have an election next year it is time for a new politics in the UK..
I understand his points.
However, I fear the integration ship has sailed.
I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell.
You are not wrong, integration will never become a reality when whole neighborhoods are being given to a single ethnic group,
Diversity of different nationalities from Europe weren't a problem. It's when you added people from different radical religions and cultures. European culture is what made all these countries the envy of the undeveloped world.
No, it was the economic development & improved standard of living that made them the envy of the non industrial world.
There needs to be robust monoculturalism and hegemony with no room for disruptive elements regarding the preservation of the normative balance of power as per the British Empire.
Exactly
Lol British Empire. You're living in the past, the Empire is dead.
There needs to be a greater emphasis on escalating and exacerbating pockets of sectarian violence despite the silent majority's insistence on silence.
Demon.
The key for disaster is collectivism. Values and responsibilities must be individual.
Yes yes yes your finally seeing this does not work
The Economist had a very different take on this a good week ago. They praised multiculturalism
The successful integration of immigrants, sometimes over a couple of generations, is obviously "a thing" in Great Britain. How else to account for Prime Ministers with foreign names like Disraeli, Callaghan, and Sunak, and the German Grand Turk himself - Boris de Pfeffel Johnson. (And was Johnson's espousal of the values shared among the worst in Britain such a great idea?)
Meghan Markle imported the US malaise of r acial identification; instead of just being a citizen.
No she didn't the Media did.
@@EIREriddick13 And she did not challenge it. She aided and abeted the media before and after the fact. She insinutated to OW, and when OW said it, Meghan did not correct her but said if that is the assumption then you can ran with it. She moaned about being treated like a bl ack woman in the UK and someone calling her child tne N word - both total falacies. The UK is more class conscience than colour and the word N is only used in the US and some Carribean countries. Don't gaslight me. In S. Africa she mentioned being a woman of colour a sister, why the need to talk colour?. She knew what she said. ditto Nigeria and Columbia. She is a s... t stirrer due to lack of anything of substance.
@@EIREriddick13 She did, she led OW to say it and told her if that is the assumption than to go with it. She did it in S. A when she said she came as a sister and a woman of colour (she was represented the crown, her visit was for all the people of S.A and not the colour ones only). She did it in Nigeria, Columbia. She complained that she was being treated as black woman in the UK, as if it was demeaning to be bl ack in the UK. Not true, she complained that someone called her child the N word, a word only used in the US and some closer island nations to it.
Didn't Harry say - silence is compliance?
Well he and his wife have been silent and not telling the media off. they sue if a fly crossed their paths without permission, yet have not set the record straight on this issue. She aided and abeted the media before, during and after the fact.
Im I only to whom Brussels sounds like some sort of vegetables ?
First!
It totally is
Of course shared values will be his values.
Feel free to explain what you think my values are. Cheers.
You're a Muslim.
He is not speaking for anyone in the UK only his own .
My own? Feel free to elaborate.
Ignore that comment Rakib, yours was a very worthwhile contribution. Points well made.
Regards from New Zealand.
What do you mean...? He makes very good, basic points. What d'you want to argue about exactly?
@@rakibehsan3118 unfortunately, you will always be targeted for your colour, that's what he means.
@@blackvikingeire How strange then that "racialised" people are joining nationalist parties all over Europe?
Looking ar Sweden, there are secular muslim, christian and jewish people from East Asia, MENA and South America supporting the Sweden Democrats.
"Diversity is not an unadulterated good." Can you say 'strawman'? Right wing apologia for racism. If Britain has failed at multiculturalism, with its white monarchy, it needs to look for better guidance.
There is no value to multiculturalism. It was a stupid idea put forth by stupid people.
You’re clearly part of the problem
Germany a diverse nation? FU