Babylon 5 Newbies react to 4x5 | The Long Night | First Time Watching
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- Join Ray, Julien, and Gerard as they continue their journey through the epic saga of Babylon 5! In this reaction video for Season 4, Episode 5, tensions rise and unexpected alliances are forged as the crew faces new challenges and confronts haunting pasts. With a focus on complex character relationships and thought-provoking themes, our hosts offer their lively commentary and genuine reactions as they navigate the twists and turns of this gripping episode. Whether you’re a seasoned fan or just tuning in, their engaging discussion is sure to add depth to your viewing experience. Be sure to like, comment, and subscribe for more reactions and insights from this beloved sci-fi series!
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The note on the desk was from Sinclair; it was his favorite poem by Tennyson.
Yes -- from the poem "Ulysses"
The poem was definitely Sinclair! He was a big lover of Tennyson and it seems on point for him to leave that poem as advice for the next person running B5.
Yeah, definitely Sinclair.
Tennyson's poem "Ulysses," a favorite of Sinclair.
...which means it’s also Valen’s poem, which really says a lot about Minbari culture after that.
JMS has written that Vir killing Cartagia was not what he had planned initially, but when it came time to actually write the episode, it was as if Vir stood up in his head and yelled “Let me do it!”
Its fitting, his journey through the show has been one of losing his innocence and seeing the horrors of the world. Having him take the life of a monster for the greater good is perfect.
The Emperor was a short lived character, but what a portrayal... and to think he gave up acting, but to think you could say, my lawyer was/is Emperor Cartagia.
Not fair when you can have the opposing counsel executed.
Depends on whether you want the judge and the other side's lawyer to be scared all the time.... :D
I just want you guys to appreciate something about Cariaga's actor's performance that it took me years to really put into perspective.
He literally became to most hated villain of the series in just 5 episodes. Not annoying, just straight up "this guy needs to die now." from the jump. Masterclass performance.
Hell, people wanted him to die even more than Refa!! Now that's saying something!
Not just this series, he's one of my favorite TV villains of all time. And all in just a handful of episodes!
another episode that proves, any scene with londo and Gkar is just... amazing television.
"My shoes are too tight."
I think this was the 1st time Londo opened up to Vir, wasn´t it?
And now here we are, this series builds the characters so well, that put much more meaning into the scenes than the acting alone could. This is the golden age, the golden hour of scifi and of TV. I´ve never seen anything better and I doubt I will.
Babylon 5 is ultimately the Gkar and Londo show. They are the heart of the show.
I am actually happy that streaming didn't exist in the 90s ,because I would not have been able to stop watching Babylon 5 at this point ...
Seasons 3 and 4 were so good when the episodes were released weekly...
This was the perfect growth episode. G'Kar fully realized his father's (Kosh) words. Lando sees in Vir the hopes and dreams he lost. Susan opens up to Sheridan about her mother showing that she sees him as her closest family.
The wildest ride in this fight is coming and all of it is being thrown out there. Let's go. Better not edit out the greatest smile in the next episode
RIP Emperor Cartagia. You were too good for this galaxy.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And just before his godhood too…
10/10 excellent rage bait
Royal quality (see what I did there?) bait, my good man! :-)
But damn that man could _ACT_ I'll miss him.
"What was it all for ?" This ,for me,remains the most haunting line of the series ...something i find myself echoing often ,looking at the real life conflicts going on in the world today...
Money.
This episode was the first time I saw Bryan Cranston in anything. I was so impressed with how much he was able to do with so little screentime. Sinclair's Tennyson snippet left for Sheridan became one of my mantras in life, along with Emperor Turhan's meditation on the past, present, and future, and how life slips away in the *in-between*. And so many great moments showing how much people have changed. This show, man. Now, into the fire!
@@reverseBLT I saw him on Seinfeld as a dentist first
@@wyrmshadow4374 I don't remember seeing him on that, but I probably missed a fair few eps of Seinfeld.
I met Peter Jurasik in 2005 I told him how much I loved his story with Andreas Katsulas and acting he was overjoyed a class guy, both of em.
For all the times Julian has been wrong he finally got it here. He nailed it. His analysis of G'kar and Londo were excellent.
Asking what had Gkar endured. It's because they don't know, we know as we saw his story. The Narn on the planet didn't see that. To them Gkar wasn't there didn't fight and die in the streets, dig through rubble for loved ones. Watch children starve and die of disease. He asked for asylum on B5 he didn't come home..... We saw him lose his pride, honour, dignity, Use all his power to try and save his people He has given up everything he is for this freedom for a chance of a future only to see these battered survivors ready to fight for revenge rather save themselfs
True, but they just watched him get paraded through the streets and lose an eye. So they were aware he endured something.
This is where the emotions really get stirred up in the series, more than earlier. I think if you can watch all five seasons of Babylon 5 without cheering from joy and celebration and crying from sadness and grief, you might be lacking emotions.
Seasons 3 and 4 are so very intense. I just don't get tired of this show, and I watched them all when they first aired, then on VHS tape, then on DVD, and now on Blu-Ray. J.M.S. crafted a masterpiece with this series. I like much of the Star Trek line, but it just doesn't capture the moment like B5 does.
StarTrek is too clean, too idealistic. B5 had the courage to truely go where no tv show had gone before.
RIP Stephen Furst The poem was left by Sinclair. Judy Dench reads the same poem in Skyfall.
I think most of the court allows it to continue because of terror. The others are as mad as Cartagia.
"What have you endured?", he asks the one-eyed man
14:30 Stephen Furst was superb in this scene. He really was so much more than just Flounder.
The sacrifice the Ranger makes is similar to Operation Mincemeat where British Intelligence dressed the body of a homeless man, Glyndwr Michael, as a Royal Marine officer. They then planted fake plans on him, implying that the allies intended to invade Greece instead of Italy before dumping the body close to Spain (hoping that fascist Spain would hand the documents over to the Axis powers).
The British had estimated casualties in the region of 10,000, thanks to Operations Mincemeat and Barclay, instead allies lost 1/7th of that number.
There is a 5 second scene in Breaking Bad where it's mentioned that Skinny Pete and Badger spent all day talking about something called Babylon 5. I want to say Bill Burr said it but I can't recall 100%
Babylon 5... Babylon 5... What a show... The way it was done. It changed everything.
This is one of the 5 best episodes in my opinion
The "we must strike back" Narn is absolutely G'kar circa Season 1 and 2. It is the vicious cycle of the Narn and Centauri. Which is just a reflection of the same vicious cycles here on Earth. Pick any two with a long history. The Japanese and Chinese, Palestine and Israel, So on and so forth, going all the way back to ancient history. Two sides so entwined in conflict that remember who even really started it is a dim memory.
Brian Cranston was also The S.A. Dentist in Seinfeld before landing the role as the dad in Malcolm in the Middle.
Must say, like fine wine, he ages well.😊😊😊
That narn was Gkar at the start of Babylon 5.
Interesting how we go from hating Londo to rooting for him here.
The Londo/Vir scene is really good where Londo is providing comfort the Vir in the only way he knows how and the fact the time isn't right to have a breakdown over what happened. There is still a lot to do.
Incredible episode! We’re heading into the fire now! Oh, and the note was definitely Sinclair. He knew he wouldn’t be coming back, and he loves Tennyson 😊
absolute top tier television
The next episode is amazing! You will savor it.
We live for the one, we die for the one.
Ohhhhh!!! OHHHH!!!
😎
The Clown was killed because he heard Empire's and Londo's' discussion about destruction of Centauri Prime !
The most fun I have watching you guys discover the series is your absolutely insane ideas about what is going to happen might happen or has happened like 90% of the time you were just so far off it's amazing 😂 but that's what makes it so absolutely a joy to watch - most of your speculations fall right into Looney Toons territory. The more that you're convinced that you have the right idea what's happening, the further away you are. It makes the revelations and pay off so much more enjoyable to watch as your reactions are just so extreme considering what you would believe was going to happen so keep it up guys 👍👌
Oooooh, they were right on point with some of their predictions a bunch of times. Like one of them making a joke about Sinclair would turn out to be Valen during season one... :D
11:00 - that is one angry and determined Narn
R Knights, awesome content keep it up
This episode really highlights the character arcs of many so far. I really like G'kar's the most. I believe he's seeing a prideful, angry, and foolish younger version of himself in the celebrating narn.
Like before, endless wars and political infighting were the bigger reasons for the centuari leaving the 1st time. Yet young G'Kar was gung-ho about "paying them back" and overconfident in the narn's military might compared to the centauri. While the shadows were a major stimulant of the 2nd war, G'Kar and many like him wanted it and pushed for it.
After being more responsible for the costs of such a war, and what it really took to get the centuari to leave again he's relalized how wrong he was. Yet as history likes to repeat, there they are... a lot of young angry prideful narn wanting to do it all again. Don't blame them for feeling as they do, but it doesn't make it a path worth pushing for.
At the same time G'Kar sees a young version of himself he's glad to have left behind, Lando is confronting a young version of himself he wishes he could go back to.
Isn't it amazing how damn good a show from the 90's still is today? I saw bits and pieces of it back then but I was a teenager who just passed it off as "less cool star trek". Boy, was I wrong.
I thought: "Meeeeeh, obvious Direct To VHS DS9 Ripoff!" when I first saw the pilot. Mind you it was published on VHS as a stand alone movie before there was an actual series.
That being said: First actual episode, with the Narn attacking a Centauri outpost as background story kinda had me insta-hooked. The different music, some of the other changes that were made since the pilot, this suddenly "felt" muuuuch better. And in hindsight the pilot isn't bad either.
@@commanderkruge the storyline of the pilot is solid but the production budget was like $12.35 It looks awful. Thankfully, they gave JMS workable funding after that
I have always loved J'Kar's reaction. Just walks away laughing.
The poem that Sheridan reads the last part of is Ulysses by Alfred, Lord Tennyson. Catherine Sakai always said that Jeff was "still caught up" on his poetry.
“And which are you? ‘An idle king doling unequal laws unto a savage race that hoard and sleep and feed and know not you?’ Or ‘This gray spirit yearning in desire to follow knowledge like a sinking star.’”
Vir killing Carthagia: One of the most righteously earned "YEAH!" moments in TV.
Adding comedy to the whole scene by Mollari stalking around like some kind of bird and Vir doing the deed by accident - beautiful.
Showing that afterwards Vir isn't fine at all in a scene that's written and acted like THIS, going for the heartstrings like that... Brilliant. Also it once again shows what a good person Vir maintained to be, even after all that time with Londo.
The White Star mission at the end is based on things that happened during WWII, if I recall right. Not *exactly* like this, but at points soldiers were knowingly sacrificed to mislead the enemy about what's ahead - and there was a famous operation in which the allied forces faked a plane crash with a high ranked officer with secret documents about a planned invasion NOT in Normandy, so the Nazis would focus their forces elsewhere... So this sequence is based in "spirit" on those events, not trying to be a 1:1 copy.
The most satisfying death in television history until Joffrey
Let's revisit this point in one or two episodes...
@sergioaccioly5219 no it still is this death is #1 for me in the whole series grew up watching it and have seen it about 10 times.
Joffery is the only one which dethroned it greatness
Vivisection means Dissection while you're still alive. Cutting open the body from neck to naval and taking out the organs bit by bit...
"You must save the eye that does not see." Lady Morella to Londo.
"I can see things now that were invisible to me before. An empty eye sees through to an empty heart... Your heart is empty Mollari, did you know that?" Gkar to Londo.
The fan community is divided on how to interpret Lady Morella's prophecies but with this interpretation, Londo has lost one of his three chances of redemption.
The poem was left by Sinclair. He was a big fan of Tennyson. Remember him and Catherine talking about Tennyson in season 1.
There is a book. The Encyclopedia of Babylon 5.
If the show had not been threatened by premature cancellation, I bet the Carthagia arc wouldve been longer
It woul've. Season 4 is great but feels very rushed.
Rofl the coffins 💀 has me dead
Julian was pretty perceptive with the theme of mirror images! :-)
edit: on the topic of why the court allows this? Terror. Sheer terror - which we could see with the execution of the jester.
Cranston also played a pretty good wild gunman on an episode of Airwolf.
Having recently binged watched your reactions and the episode "Passing Through Gethsemane" being fresh in my mind, Ericsson's sacrifice is similar to the story told by Brother Edward about Jesus's choice in the Garden of Gethsemane.
Would love to watch them do a second view. So they can connect all the dots they missed in the first watch. Might actually catch who actually knows Tenison enough to leave a note.
B5 gets better on a second watch in so many ways.
G’Kar has seen the folly of ‘an EYE for an EYE’ (literally and figuratively) and knows there must be a better way and he will find it or make it. Lando has seen this as well, but will take the other path………unto its eventual conclusion.
B5 is strange... almost every season you're celebrating someones death for good xD
Wow, they really hated Cartagia
I'd love to see Wortham Krimer react to them seeing his character die, it must be gratifying for a former actor when your performance inspires such passion!
30:49 - The Shadows can sense an approaching ship miles away
So, what is he going to do huh?
Blow up the island?
To quote another babylon reactor "You are all good guesses"
Guest starring future TV legend Bryan Cranston ,in such a small ,but very consequential role, one that people still talk about today..
Could episodes ago you were saying you'd be pissed if one side walked away from the Narn Centauri conflict, now you're on board with ceasing hostilities, letting it go and rebuilding. Interesting.
They question G'kar because pride and stubbornness go hand in hand. So too does arrogance. Christians consider pride a sin for a reason.
G'kar has gotten a major win, he freed his world and ended the conflict at the same time, so there's no threat of invasion or a pointless war to fight. He's walked away from his obsession with revenge and became a good person because of it.
No wonder the chains broke, they were made of Solid Crudinium😊😊😊
"How will they get the shadows off their planet?"
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"The Long Night"
🎶 Then I'll do it 🎶 #Ham4B5
OK, how was I convinced The Scene was this episode...?
Great one anyway.
When I hear about the concept of letting go all I can think about is the Dead Money DLC for Fallout New Vegas...I guess the hard part really is letting go...
Londo couldn't tell him why they were now free and can't attack, if that info ever got out they would all be wiped out.
...and they have forgotten about the Great Egg.
It was not his people, it was a single person.
Impossible to discuss ANYTHING without spoilers.
How do you think you would have reacted after meeting Vir in season 1 episode 2(?), you had been told that he was going to be in a very poignant scene? It's something I love, that not only does he have a great arc, you can even argue about if it is the best arc in the show compared to say G'Kar or Londo. Oh, and there were other powerful scenes in the same episode...
Was there a person who helped persuade you to watch this? If so, are you giving them a steak dinner with the winner of the dead pool?
It's funny cause a lot of people dislike Vir at first, considering him to just be comic relief. By the time we get to this episode we see is that, but also so much more.
Jerry baldy.
I loved Bablylon 5, but the acting... the weaknesses were only magified by the colossal talent of Peter Jurasik and Andreas Katsulas. Or maybe it just seemed like weaknesses in comarison to them.
Those two are amazing, but if they weren't there we would be celebrating a lot of the other actors. Bruce Boxleitner for instance doesn't get anywhere near the credit he deserves for his acting cause so often he's being an easy going, happy-go-lucky type.
Welcome to S4 of B5.
Take everything you know about B5 and turn it up to 11.
They didn't know if they'd get a fifth season so they crammed 2 seasons into one and oh boy does it work.
You could shave with Ivanova's edge.
If you like this one.......the next episode will blow you away.
Ah, that time when Sheridan had sent Walter White on a suicide mission.
So. What do you think of JMS's ability/capability/intelligence/intuition regarding storytelling/writing now? I dare you to compare to any other writer/creator in SciFi including Gibson or Herbert... Edit: and STOP saying jerrybaldy - it's a hard G!
And had G'Kar and Londo given Morden slightly different answers in the pilot, each would have walked the other's path. Londo the prophet, G'Kar the galactic villain. The only reason each ended up where they were is... prophecy.
I don't know where you are getting the idea that the timeline has changed. There's never been any indication, from the few times we have seen time travel, that that is a thing that can happen.
Read history books.
The real ones about colonialism.
People where to afraid for their european oppressors.