The Curse That The Division Might Not Escape...
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Turmoil has struck one of the industry's most popular and longest running Looter Shooters, and in light of the news I want to discuss how The Division might be falling down a similar path- but also where its chance lies to go beyond. Let me know your thoughts!
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You're probably the only top div 2 youtuber who didn't abandon the game for first descendant... Thanks for keeping the spirit alive 👍
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You can do other games and come back, not sure what else is left to do in the Division. Ubisoft should have been on the ball right after this games lone DLC. Not our fault TFD devs give us constant updates while Ubisoft just fails over and over. Get your stuff together Ubisoft and we'll come back.
@@RogueGold I just waiting for me to get ps5 to get back on division 2 like yes I got the Xbox series s but I don’t like Xbox because two thing and I like my PlayStation I miss the last of us and some other game but yeah I been doing manhunt on Xbox for division 2 but it’s hurt that I have not been on ps5
When this games dlc comes in for Brooklyn it’ll be interesting to watch, personally I’d pay for or love a way you could reset targeted map loot, even if it was only 2-5 times a week. Work 4 days a week n everything always happens while I work, dang shame
Dude that game was fun for like a few bosses but ultimately the waifu T&A just doesn't fit who I am lol. And the movement isn't good. Let's be real Destiny's gameplay and gunplay is and always will be the standard. Even if you dislike bungie in it's current state you can't deny the game plays amazing. It's all the other stuff.
What killed the player base for Destiny was the greedy pricing
Yes! I quit because of that.
They are violating the unwritten rule, Do not EVER split your community across different products.
They should have shut D1 down after moving over Survival, the large DZ, the Excursions, etc etc..
@jestersdead1582 No, they shouldn't have that would be anticonsumer
I’m not sure who’s unwritten rule this is. Studios want to grow into Publishers…..who have multiple products
Is this an unwritten rule you've just made up in your head? Because successful games and IPs across all sorts of media do this literally all the time.
I've said this for a while, Heartland should have been Div 2 DLC, Why compete with yourself when there are tons of other games trying to pull from your player base.
I love Division 1 and 2, but I'm tired of doing the same Missions, Control Points, Hostage activities, territory controls, bounties….and manhunts. The only manhunts that stuck out to me were Stovepipe, The Recruiter and Kelso. That's 3 out of 11 or 12.
I've done paradise lost multiple times, both raids multiple times, , Pentco multiple times etc. Dark zone isn't what it used to be, WE ARE STILL GETTING PURPLE GEAR ON HEROIC DIFFICULTY.…
Same.
You lasted way longer than I did I stopped playing over a year ago.
Destiny has the same problem, people ask for changes but Bungie doesn't make them because they send most of their resources to do marathon Instead of focusing on what makes them money right now
I echo your sentiments and I’ve not even bothered doing Raids, Incursions, etc. I’m
SHD level 860 (ish) and wanted to get to 1,000 just to finish the watch but I don’t even think I can stomach anymore. It’s just too stale. I play Div1 more than Div2 but have since drifted away from the franchise in favor or tactical shooters/milsims (like Ready or Not and GR Breakpoint). Division is still my favorite IP but it needs to either be revived or just die.
We had a chance of a fresh feel to the game with seasonal wipes, but this community killed off that idea, which will probably prevent the devs from trying new things in the future. This community complained about something before we even got to try or experience it.
I just found your channel bro, and it’s awesome. You have quickly become one of my favorites. Keep it up bro!
🙏 Appreciate that very much! Thank you for being here!
Well said
And this video here is a prime example of why I follow Rogue Gold like I'm a lost puppy; the man is smart, passionate about his IPs and committed to serving his communities to the fullest of his abilities. Very thought provoking video, RG - got me a tad worried on a few fronts, but just enough to keep me on my toes and watchful without going off the rails. Appreciate you!
Too kind per usual Mav 😄 Thanks!
@@maverick_cw Make him community manager and we're golden.
@@d3knot *Make him* Community Manager...? lmao. I thought he already was! Okay! I'll vote "hell yeah!" for that endorsement!
Not off the rails over a video game update. Oh no!!
I think they all make the same mistake. Instead of sticking to a main game and developing it intelligently forward by storytelling and interesting content, they all get greedy and do more spinoffs in the idea to always win more players on different platforms. Interestingly they never pay off and they forget the loyal player base, that just plays the game. I remember Wing Commander (yes I am quite old) that had a continuous storyline over several parts with some DLC and later on even some spin offs. But the main focus was always on the original story over several years. I think Ubisoft and Massive would fare way better if they sticked to the Division story from 1 to 2 to now 3. All the spin offs could just disappear. But they are not courageous enough and in the end ruled by spreadsheets and executives that are not gamers.
I have hopes for a Division 3 but with how things are going right now, it might be a no go.
Good take.
I feel like every game I play(ed) has gone through this terrible period of bad management and content drought. All the Overwatch PVE drama, I started playing New World until that suddenly went from a million players to nowhere, the Division 2 feels in the same boat and Sea Of Thieves was also a live service for years where the only additions where tiny monthly events like 'sit on 15 chairs in the world'. But in the end all these games got back on track and I am sure same will happen for the Division 2. They just need to make content like they did in year 1 and WONY. Those years were a blast
Bungie and Destiny are now in the same boat Massive and the Division.
Both Massive and Bungie are taking strays from all the new ip development that are taking away from their tent pole games.
When you siphon off dedicated workforce and income to the detriment of your revenue generating ip you're going to run into issues if you base revolt or leave.
That is the hubris of both of these studios. In short it comes down to management.
You need to balance development and dedicated support; only to go all in once you have a plan and force to support your game and you built the base structure of your ip so it can quickly be built and tested.
Well thats how its done in other programming industries.
Very solid analysis- I'd say the one big difference that led to these circumstances is the decision structure behind each studio. At least until recently, Bungie had autonomy in what they worked on and where their resources went. I can't say for certain that Massive didn't, but I think under the publisher structure there had to at least have been a degree of control from Ubisoft in deciding when Massive would invest/pull back from Division, and what new IP's they might work on
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First and foremost...Warframe already proves that the "curse" of live services is merely a myth. It doesn't exist, and is centered entirely around games that don't grow, don't evolve, don't change enough, and don't expand outward and just constantly stay the same. I gave up on Destiny years ago, but that game suffers the same issues as Anthem, and Marvel's Avengers, and Suicide Squad, and even Outriders which isn't a live service but is in a similar genre. I'm reluctant to include Division in there, but I will, because the same problems exist...little to no evolution, little to no expansion and change outward into new territory to truly make a world players can get lost in.
You're absolutely right to call out the similarities between Division and Destiny in terms of cancelling and/or delaying spin off games as a problem or source of concern. I remain hopeful and optimistic that Division still has time to rally and make a comeback, after all, the thing Destiny needs most is time away from the public eye, changing direction and maybe coming back with a new approach. Division kind of already had that before it resumed releasing season content. However, I don't entirely agree that Division has a consistent vision and knows what it needs to be to truly rise from the ashes. That's one of Destiny's biggest problems...10 years and it still has an identity crisis, and the worst part, is that the major heavyweight creatives behind Destiny, the game's best hope to keep the long lasting vision consistent, are mostly (if not all) gone from Bungie.
Julian coming back will hopefully right the ship, but Division really needs to be more focused. If that involves major shakeups to the game's story presentation, even moving potentially away from being a formal looter shooter, so be it. I'd rather see Division succeed as a franchise by shedding its biggest trappings than stick too closely to certain tropes and hold itself back.
Great thoughts- thanks for laying them out! No doubt Warframe has defied the odds and continued to be a major success, the only main reason I didn't bring it up here is the difference in format and pricing model it has compared to Destiny and Division (which are identical save for D2's later-on switch to F2P)
@@RogueGold It's funny, Destiny may have changed to "free to play," but a lot of people (even fans of it and its playerbase) still consider it monetized worse. Whereas Division 1 and 2 still cost money to play, yet I'd consider both far better values than Destiny.
But yeah, I'm hoping Division can pick itself back up. With big enough moves and development focus, it can.
Heartland could have had such a decent player base between interested Division players and COD DMZ players. I still see people streaming DMZ but it's died a quick death from COD totally mishandling it. Maybe Delta Force coming out was too much of a concerning opponent for Ubisoft but I think I would have love Heartland.
The Division series has something to it but in TD1 I loved the way you can explore in the subways and further on the streets and buildings. As for TD2 its lacking some things in that aspect. I hope they do add more to the game. As for the future of TD hope to see them focus on the TD3. Hopefully not split the team to other projects. I loved Destiny 1. Destiny 2 vaulting content is what really moved me away from the series. The Division 1 was fun and it was so massive. The streets, buildings, subways were fun to explore. Add the weather effects like in TD2 that be something to add on to. TD2 was missing some good things from TD1. I still play TD2 just wish TD1 had a current gen version. Linking the two would be a good thing as well what happened between the first TD and the Second linking the events. There is more they can do to bring more story and lore to the series. If they do get TD3 going I hope it can help answers some of the missing things in the past.
Ya vaulting content I paid for, I quit and haven't look back since. As a PVE only non raid player simply nothing to do in destiny
While destiny and the division have similar things going on, i feel like the division has hope. Meanwhile, destiny is struggling due to the higher-ups. The division still has an unfinished story. Meanwhile, destiny just concluded its light and darkness saga and with these layoffs happening after a major success, the future seems dark for it. I play both destiny and the division, and I'm really hyped more for the division's future than i am for destiny, even though i play destiny more often than the division
Unfortunately, at this point, i have no confidence in Resurgance, the DLC, or Div3 ever happening. I love this game and have around 1200 hours into it. In the time I've been playing, the DZ has become unplayable for the average player. There have been no major changes to the gameplay. Arguments could be made for Project Resolve, but let's be honest. That has only introduced more bugs. No good gear introduced. Abysmal exotics post Elmos. And every piece of new content has been delayed repeatedly or outright canceled. Say what you will, but we are, in fact, in a content drought. As the commander of my clan, I've seen numerous agents go idle for well over 45 days at a clip. That is a clear indication of the state of the game. I'll keep playing because i love it, but my confidence is shaken, and i understand why people are leaving.
The real reason they're doing this is to diversify their investments. They think if they have three products out there that they sink less money into there's a higher chance of one of them succeeding. It's called hedging your bets. The issue is that if none of these games receive the funding and support they need to meet player expectations all of them are going to fail, and fail hard.
I recently just started playing division 2 as my first time ever in this franchise last week, and im sure i would not be playing if it was single player only. The fact that it is online feels like it gives me more reason to grind, hop on, and play to level up, etc. I find i can not commit to single-player games as once you have finished the story, the game is over and gets deleted it just feels like a waste of time for me even if the story was good. Would be ashamed to see them pull the online multiplayer part of this game out just to turn it into another battle royal.
The problem with Division +Destiny 2 is that
1 the companies are incredibly greedy
2 the fans let it slide and the practices continue
Warframe and Genshin succeed because theyre arent wholly greedy and improve their games rather than stagnating with the same core activities, lack of QoL and care about playerfeedback
It’s crazy to me how many of these online games I’ve been playing for years are all dying slowly, while Warframe is the only one to get stronger over time. Not only that, it’s starting to grow again lol I think the difference is the Devs actually engaging with their community consistently.
I had to let Destiny go. After the last 2 major expansions, I became so disappointed at what the game had become. I used to love it so much. I still play Division from time to time, but really just to roam around and goof off, though I keep up with lore. I still think it’s super fun, just not enough to be a hobby game.
Went back to Warframe and, man, There’s still so much for me to do even years later. The only money I ever spent was on color palettes. Other than that, it’s all free, even the mini battle pass.
Dude, as long as The Division 2 is going I'll still play, s**t I still play Division in between Manhunts in Division 2. Even when some of the community was against the seasonal character thing I still played. I feel we have the same love for this franchise and I dig your content. You literally made me consider and play PvP when I'm not really a pvp player, and I appreciate that man.
Play other games
@Dime_time333 hmmm...I do, literally have my channel full of Fallout 4 content I constantly post but no game gives me the same feel as The Division franchise. Thanks for the comment I suppose.
@ThisNThat0810 👊 Love hearing that man, appreciate you!
Love the build. The content is always appreciated and enjoyed.
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I'd love to see Massive Entertainment partner with Take-Two and given the freedom to develop as Rockstar has. The 5-star treatment that the Division would receive would be amazing.
Great video as always. The division is in good hands. We the players need to keep speaking to massive telling them in a helpful and constructive way to keep them on track.
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The fact anyone would compare destiny to division is a stretch I’ve only been playing for a couple months and although they share small similarities the atmosphere of the game itself not even mentioning the player base which most seem a breath of fresh air compared to destiny’s and making friends a clan has been far easier than destiny even with the descendant coming out soon after I started playing has been a blast playing for me I just wish I would’ve played it sooner bcuz I feel it’s the game I’ve been looking for that suits every want I have for playing a game long term
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I love the game since the first one come out! And i will be honest, they lost me many times and I always seem to come back. Nothing could scratch that each till Once Human come out and Man let me tell you what a TREAT! I will always love Division but until something new its outhere I will enjoy your posts ❤
I will love to see more Story content for the Division for the campaign!
Or maybe do a Free to play division game and just have DLC and Seasonal pass in between!
Like new areas to go to!
I love how destiny did there’s!
It open a lot of new players to that game because it was FREE!
Ubisoft needs div 3 to be good. So they'll probably put a ton of effort into it. I just hope they give usca darkzone like div1. That was my home... even with the all terrible chicken dancing, invisible body parking, smart cover stacking, shock turret striker using mess that it was... it was my home.
I really enjoy the pve from division 2 But there hasn't been anything nearly as memorable pvp wise. I hope they give us a giant dark zone full of toxic proximity chat and scum baggery.
It’s funny that Sony paid billions for Bungie to get a current live service game and the blueprint for making live service games and Bungie is fumbling it all.
Bungie is a master at developing top tier shooters that are unmatched in the industry. They are absolute amateur at business operations and strategic decision making.
If they would recycle Heartland map for a Division 2 DLC I am happy to pay for it.
I had zero interest in extraction Shooter and played D1 Survival few times only, while having 3000 hours in D1 and more than 7000 hours in D2, hours playing mainly missions, open world and PvE in darkzones. Therefore happy if they would make use of the Heartland map.
If they do I hope they make a console base one
Before killing the online one
I will love to see more Story content for the Division for the campaign!
The devs need to move forward with seasonal characters and seasonal wipes.
The DZ brackets need to be reverted. DZ brackets did nothing but empty out DZs. I have yet to get into a full DZ since SHD DZ brackets were implemented. In SHD 1,001+ is usually 1-2 agents at a checkpoint just 1v1'ing other than that DZs are just straight up empty most of the time. I can't help other players farm, extract or gather materials.
With DZ bracket and seasonal characters in question, I am not too optimistic about the game's future at all. As much as the community complained about seasonal wipes, player count is lower than what it was before they announced the possible cancellation of seasonal characters. The players who didn't want seasonal characters got what they wanted, but player count still is dropping.
The mixing pot of DZ levels in DZs is what made them feel dynamic and interesting, now DZs are dead as all hell and again, once you max out your build, DZ bracket 1,001+ is pretty pointless to go into.
The Division 2 is by far one of my favorite games, but I can barley bring myself to even play through the seasonal missions with the direction and changes they are making to the game. The devs are going backwards with the game trying to people please instead of doing what's best for the game's health.
The curse that division might not escape from...the curse of Osiris
It’s a good comparison would be a shame to see this game go . Not being a developer I would only be guessing that it is possibly easier to great a new game at some point then just add on as new code may create an undesirable affect as we see continuing in updates .
Destiny 2 died when its PvP community died both a Vet in both D1 and D2 Bungie decided to go full blow on its Pve and totally forgot its pvp players in the abyss thats when i quit the game last year when lightfall came out
Yes, so let's allow the programmers to create a great game(s) and receive Corporate firings! Yeah, great business motto! So sad because NO ONE is safe from any hard work on projects. 💔💔
I wish all the people who were fired/laid off from these corporations to ban together and make an awesome, creative game, which would break the drought of the gaming industry. Ugh, the awesome level of thought and fantastic ideas! They would *Shame* these Corporations! 😎✨✨✨
The whole appeal of something like Destiny and The Division is the looter shooter aspect. Going out, hitting some PVE activities, optimising your gear and the using that in a PVP environment.
At least for me and everyone I played with. PVE was fun, but it's not what kept us coming back every day. And there's been no game that I've spent more time in than The Division.
I know some players want PVE only, but you have games that give that, First Descendant for one. But for someone who loves theory crafting builds and PVP, something like The Division was perfect.
I agree!
Division has a hard road with First Descendant and Warframe dominating looter shooters I know of on Steam, both use individual characters and show the strengths and weaknesses of that design and possible flaws of Division
On the positive, Division has something going for it to have held on as the #4 Steam looter shooter
My take:
AAA gaming is laying off ppl bc of share prices… you have squeezed every cent out of consumers and still need to improve results - only way is to reduce cost!
Mobile: they cannot find/attract new players so they go back on the board to find solutions. If they don’t get those results in tests, it gets canned.
It seemed like Resurgence was getting a decent buzz, I certainly hope they can find an audience :(
@@RogueGold Buzz among Div fans - they need more to be succesful on mobile
All people (me, I’m people) wanted was the survival mode back! The original battle royal extraction shooter!
I really hope D3 makes the death of Heartland worth it because the division fans been getting no love
Another good one, thanks.
👊 Thanks for watching!
Still hate heartland got canceled. It needed a lot of changes but it looked great a for the most part felt great. And it was fun. I enjoyed the raid style of it. Would be great if it came back. Ubi really shit the bed canceling heartland for xdefiant
Hé you also get that black screen once a while. I thought something is wrong with my ps5, but it's a bug.
It's not a bug, they changed the functionality of the "Blind" status effect back in Y5S3 to be a darkened screen instead of a bright one, for accessibility purposes
@@RogueGold I welcomed that change with open arms! Playing at night, that bright white screen fried my retina, lol
Yes, I love the new, darkened blinding effect. Too bad I can't say for the same effect in Division 1. Those Legendary Sniper green infrared blinding accuracy light is REAL!! 😅😅😅
Thank you for putting this out there and remaining positive!
For me personally, most of the truly great games that I love - Deus Ex HR & the Dishonored series to name a few - are no more. They didn't sell well when they launched, or not enough, and there's no sign that they will have a continuation or conclusion as they are not considered 'high impact titles'. According to an ex-dev, the first store mount from WoW, a sparkle pony, sold for more money than StarCraft 2 WoL. Why spend years creating a game when you can make more money with 1 store item? And even one of my friends, who knows better, in a drunken stupor bought a 70$? Bunny skin with that new Descendant game. 70$ (I think) for one freaking booty skin. A grown *ss man. And plenty of people bought it too.
As much as I revile and dislike these corporations, in the end they just follow the money. That's my impression at least.
It would sure be good timing if they dropped 3 around the time that movie was finally made...
The management at bungie is bad and its a shame bc FS delivered as it should have. Im actually a destiny main and division is my second big time game. FS was on point. But whather it was an executive level at bungie or Sony,they just tried to squeeze too much out. They really did overachieve. Nobody(or nobody i know anyway) was asking for destiny mobile. Some ppl werent even asking for 3....but if the ship goes down,hey they kept me entertained for 10 years. Not many games do that
Also,for most of destiny's life span the only real compeythey had was...... Division. Now it's different. First descendant,helldiver's,
word is Riot may be making an mmo. There's more viable options now and that may play a part in bungies risk taking.
Brilliant video thank you rougegold 👌
👊 Thank you my friend!
Loved the video. I love the division 2 it’s my favorite game of all time have put over 1000 hours into this game. I wa skeptical from the division 1 when I saw all the downgrades and fell in love and never looked back. I think spin offs are a great idea on paper and concept. It’s a shame to see heartland go as it was so far in development, but I truly believe spin offs of division would ultimately fail and cost Ubisoft more money. I think that as a dedicated division player I am looking forward to anything they announce, but like the main game division 3 is what I’m excited for over any other spin off. DLC is amazing and I am excited for that I think what this game does great is there isn’t a bad barrier to entry or content that has been sunset like a destiny 2. There’s just so much about this franchise that has surprises me that is still strong because it was left with a skeleton crew and no content and yet still is doing well enough to warrant over five years of content. I think ultimately division 3 will not be as successful and will make money but live service games get such a bad wrap. Division 2 was an upgrade certainly over the first game where destiny 2 wasn’t yet it got lost in the haze for a bit. Say what you want about Ubisoft, but massive entertainment has great team and they make amazing games.
Thank you! And great thoughts, thank you for taking the time to write them out 🙌
TD2’s dev letter about the last TU 3+ years ago will hurt TD franchise overall. The delay of the DLC will hurt it more. The thing with Destiny, and its my most played franchise to date, through thick and thin and all the challenges in the last 10 or so years, they kept trying to make things right ( many wrongs too). They didn’t quit on the franchise….. heck even now.
You don’t sell games on hope. Hope the community stays after a 3 year break. Hope after all the terrible patches and poor support. Hope people forget you canned an anticipated TD franchise in Heartland. TD is in a sad state and that makes me frustrated and doubtful of its future despite my love for the franchise.
Perhaps look at another great example similar to Destiny and community. Warframe has been around even more than Destiny and its community has kept it going for all this time. yeah not for everyone but the example of what it is to nurture your franchise and community, not destroy it in silence.
Bungie is having issues with player retention because they got greedy with their content by vaulting some of the best content many players enjoyed.
What build were you running in the dark zone. Love it. Great armor Regen, dmg, survivability. I love pvp, though they provided nothing new since I've been playing. That's ashame. They could truly do so much more with things for pvp players to do like DZ missions exc. Better way with dz missions to earn exotic components. I think the division 2 and coming 3 need to cater much more with pvp as much as they do pve. That's my take. Thank you
Here's the build breakdown! 👉 ruclips.net/video/sctJAwWYi_s/видео.htmlsi=02iRRSsRCKAK9TCh
Bullet sponge enemies are what ruins the game for me. If they went full Army of TWO and took out the weird rpg stats on gear I would think Division 2 was a perfect game.
It would not work.
The reason why there is enemy variety in divusion is because of the RPG mechanics.
An enemy places a turret that shots you. You hurt the HP of the turret, the enemy goes there to fix the turret. He would die most of the time and would never be able to fix it.
The black/white tusk wifi enemy goes to his tank fix it too. He would die by one shot.
The game would be completely different. When you ask to remove RPG from Division, you are asking the devs to change the design of most enemies. This other division game would probably be good too, but would be very different. I wonder how many enemy types they could make in this other game
I don’t get people like you, why don’t you just play ghost recon wild lands? Genuine question plz no salt
@yoplio752 Because that game has garbage in terms of customization. Second Wildlands has bullet sponge enemies. Literally the exact thing that ruins any shooter.
Yea I think these spinoffs should be supplementary and used to funnel people into the mainline game. I think they could benefit from what Call of Duty does I housing all the modes and content inside of one ecosystem. You can access WARZONE, DMZ, 6v6, campaigns and various other modes inside of one hub. I hope they figure it out but Herman Hulst and HT are committed to Destiny so that's comforting for now.
A centralized hub would be a big plus for sure
To save division universe they have to make resurgence as new division same style as division 1 with divsion 2 updates and upgrades..
What's interesting is that I didn't even realize that The Division 2 had people playing it. A year or so ago Skillup said his sources in Ubisoft said that there are still a bunch of people playing it. I freaked out and picked it up again. If anything kills The Division it'll be its weird notoriety when it comes to live service games.
Yeah, Division has maintained a loyal base (and continued to draw in a lot of newcomers, despite some's beliefs/perception), but for some reason its always struggled to gain much mainstream media attention.
😞 I’m still sad about heartland’s
Why is no one talking about Bungie's garbage CEO who is largely to blame for the problems?
It really says everything that he stays on while Luke Smith is out like what the F...
But that's the gaming industry in a nutshell for you, and the major subject so many "journalists" never touch - that the CEOs and shareholders are 99% of the time the ones at fault.
I mean hell, look at all the massive successes SQEX has had in the last year or so (ignoring all the closed Gacha games for a moment) and yet they are always falling short of expectations bla bla bla.
I mean, there are some distinct differences between the division and destiny 2. Notably, Destiny is free, or... mostly free, and it's still failing. Bungie has repeatedly removed content they made you pay for, which the division hasn't- though they also don't have as much content to remove.
Does anyone know what backpack look is he using here?
Gamology backpack skin in the store 👍
honestly just tired of endgame content never feel like i have enough time to grind to lvl 1000
I wish the dz got some love 😢
The problem is at least for me, Divison is getting boring asf for me and I need smth else to play, I have over 2000 hours into division 2 and it’s getting repetitive, it’s been repetitive and it’s just this season that did it for me
Hey my guy what do you think about the new dz that the devs have added to the game? I'm talking about level 40 - 500 shade cap, if you boost a character and don't get your watch. You play dz or conflict and you'll be facing people who haven't reached 1000 shade. It's an interesting idea to avoid all the trash players in the dz or people who don't know about it.
I don't know how many are going through the trouble of leveling a new character up just to avoid grabbing the watch and to stomp on some noobs- but I think the easy fix would be to just require players to get their SHD Watch from the Quartermaster prior to entering the DZ
Great video as always rogue BUT I gotta know, did you get those exotics out? 😂
I got a lag spike right after I hooked the bag, and then I Delta'd right when someone came to cut the rope 😭
Man if you see a desert eagle for every trailer you know massive has only 1 prop can you imagine that shit the same thing goes with gr breakpoint like are they afraid of big guns whats the deal with making a cutscene instead of a simple trailer why nobody is working on it i don't get these people.
Bungie s biggest issue is combo of no clear new player onboarding. Also, despite all the dlcs at it's core the game is the same. Div 2 is not much different than D2 in that sense, even despite a much better new player onboarding experience. I do think the fact the Div 2 game has had only Brooklyn dlc in the time that D2 had 5 or more is why Division ip will be around for time to come.
Hey guys I have warlords on Xbox, I recently moved to PlayStation to play with my dad i don’t have warlords and am level 40 does anyone know why I don’t have the summit and weekly legendary difficulty project, is it because I have to own warlords or is it glitched
Yeah unfortunately there's been some bugs with non-Warlords owners accessing all intended Endgame content/features once reaching 40. It's fully intended for you to have all of the same projects, etc. regardless of if you own WONY or not- it's just a matter of when they'll fix the bugs with it
@@RogueGold ok thanks man I’ve commented on other division content creators but I knew you’d be the one to reply keep up the good work bro ❤️
Some interesting times ahead
I think get rid of destiny first I don’t think as good as the patient is so much better of course that is just how I feel
been playing both destiny and division since there inceptions..and here we are all these years later and they are still here and people are still playing and there not going anywhere and oddly enough i had the same thing happen in both games...log in and find main character reset...bungie fixed our characters with a roll back..but ubisoft did not and fortunately atleast in my case it was some sort of weird glitch..because i logged back in yesterday and my main character was fixed and my watch level was back up to almost 4,000..maybe they fixed it..dont know..no communication on thatfrom ubisoft..either way...people are still playing and the devs are still doing stuff on the games so all the drama is simply that drama..we as consumers realy need to quit putting so much stock in these companies operating policies and just play the dam games.both division and destiny have us running around and doing the same missions and what not..over and over..look at the manhunts..what are we doing..running missions and doing bounties.what we need is new missions and new content in both games..not activities that have us doing the same old things..but actual new content..only time will tell..in the mean time haver fun or play something else..so many games out right now..
When you don’t listen to your PvP community and ban cheaters this is what happens. Ppl start to fall off and leave and why sink time into a game that doesn’t give you your moneys worth..? Plain and simple. Bungies situation is pathetic and they’ll probably be shut down..all bc the CEO spent two million dollars on cars instead of paying his ppl..fucking greed ruins your experience. It’s not looking bright for Div mobile either..Remember, keep your expectations low and “do not preorder”
don't count Destiny 2 out yet
Oh I'm not- I think even despite the reduction in content Destiny will continue to be around for many years
Destiny 1 WAS one of the best for sure. same with Division. sucks that Destiny 3 isnt gonna happen but i'm much more exciting for Division 3
people are still playing div1. There is no point to make div 3. They should just improve and create new content for div2
There is a big point in making it on the technical side of things. Division 2 has severely struggled over the past 2 years from a technical standpoint, and there's only so much band-aiding that can be done there
My reaction is as always: fuck CEOs!
It's amazing how the gaming entertainment in general is in trouble, mostly by stupid decisions made by incredible inept executives, but the layoffs are all at dev level with no consequences for said execs
The Division WARZONE open world pvp BACK TO TIMES SQUARE
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Destiny is objectively worse than division, pov change my mind
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Day 1 Division player but man this game has run it's course. Ubisoft needs to allocate the resources to make continued map expansions with Division 3, or I fear it will be the last of the series. I'll never forgive them for abandoning the game and not telling us, just leaving us playing a dead game with no future. That was a total scumbag move. It makes me hestitant to ever trust what they say again.
heartlands was a bad game, as an expansion to d2 it would have added agro and stealth multipliers with a crouch option could have succeeded and added a whole new map with pvp maps.
I’d like to see the division 1 map with everything inside added to Division 2. I’d love to do all the old missions with my Div 2 character and gear.
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The final shape sucked ass just like the rest of destiny 2
The division is my ride or die. Still enjoying it till this day. Ubisoft is taking a big hit with all this woke ghay stuff they’re putting in these upcoming games which will hurt their income. Wish they’d stop it. I hate resurgences got another delay too.
Divisions main competition is now warframe man. Destiny is dead af
I don't think they cancelled heartland. I think that the thought of releasing a free game didn't sit right with Ubisoft so the brass said look you have a complete game how can we make more money on this game you said was going to be free. The devs did there brainstorming and said how about we cancel it change a few things and market it as Div 3 and charge $70 for it.
Ubisoft put out a statement confirming that the development was canceled
I would like to say that maybe I'm wrong, but the problem is not the market of the games themselves as a service or something similar that concerns Bungie, but that they lied to Sony about selling themselves and that they inflated their prospectus and earnings projections which are actually unsustainable and now Sony, like Sony, is doing reconstruction of the studio itself, but the main problem of Bungie was the management itself, which was really incompetent and the chain of bad decisions that led it to this stage. I want to say that Desitny is not in the same dimension of existence as Division2, that is, the game is light years better than anything the division can currently offer and that is the main problem of the division because ubisoft can't make good pve content and the pve content that the division has is incredibly thin. My opinion is that Destiny is in a transition phase and things will more or less be the same until sony takes full control of the game itself while the division has been in a very bad position for years.
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the only difference i can see is that destiny 2 is and always has been absolute ass
Bungie "leaders" destroyed the studio by spreading their resources to wide and thin, instead of focusing on the excelent D2, and maybe reworking the game to stop content vulting, and even bring back deleted content.
If they had found a way to make D2 welcoming to new players, while still releasing excelent new content, the studio would be a success for many years to come.
Even though The Division doesn't have the same "player count" potential, if Ubishit doesn't fuck things up, the franchise can make them A LOT of money in years to come.
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👋🏼 RG IMO this is kind of what Seasonal characters could have done for TD2. Let the devs expand the game through a different experience without creating a new game. What if by selecting a seasonal character took you to a specific server that let us play in other locations??? Yaniak had spoken about server space and how they can’t expand stash space yet they were going to add a 5th character. How does that work? Was the complaining really that much or as usual are 100s% of the online whiners only 5% of the player base. The devs should have stuck to their guns and rolled it out.
Desti what? lolz First Descendant is really killing it man.
The Division 3 will never see the light of day
Division 3 won’t happen if Ubisoft goes bankrupt. If the next 2 games fail then this is quite likely.
We don’t need Division 3 !! What we need is new DLC’s with more missions like WONY !! Just keep adding new content to Division 2.
The developers downright neglected the pvp community, and TD2 absolutely sucks now.