Anyone whining about Saquan breaking the record being unfair because he has 17 games is ridiculous. Eric Dickerson broke OJ’s single season record having not one, but TWO extra games
It's funny that Luke says he is disgusted listening to experts and thinking they are dumb. Luke has some of the worst takes and information for someone who played in the league. He embarrasses himself when he speaks.
Feschuk: NFL Playoffs best time of the year. Come one Dave. No way it's better than NHL playoffs while NBA playoffs are on and MLB starting up. Or even MLB winding down, NHL, NBA starting up and NFL mid season.
"7 1/2 for Canada...I'd take Canada..." Jesus. This is why should diversify your sporting interests as a nation. You've now been humiliated, Canada, in the sport where you have every advantage. I mean I guess when you're on top, you can only go down...but you lads were a million miles off the plot...showing your ass that you don't actually know anything how Junior hockey (who would?) other than to assume all of the Canadian players will go on to great NHL careers. HUGE joke on Canada as a nation today. WOOF. Shame on Mike Johnson today too for being able to wake up and call himself a hockey analyst
If you look at the past 5 or so games theres a reason why they were so heavily favored. No analyst, especially a pro one, wouldve or should've said otherwise lol. The only embarrassment was the Canadian team themselves, not showing up lmao. What you on about?
Allen has a better QBR and EPA…Allen has QB’ed his team to wins against the #1 seed in the AFC and NFC while Lamar lost to the Raiders at home and Cleveland….ALLEN HAS DONE MORE WITH LESS…ALLEN IS THE MVP
@@orphy6869allen doesn’t have less and he clearly hasn’t done more. Way worst stats. Only 3-3 vs winning teams this year. Lamar is 9-3 vs teams over .500. Josh has a star rb who single handily beat the Pats while Josh looks awful. The best o line in football is in buffalo look at the advanced stats. Good wr core. Lamar has never had a number 1 wr. Josh looked awful before they traded for Amari Cooper.
Allen is a lock for MVP… only IF the Bengals miss the playoffs. If the Bengals can somehow sneak in if: 1) they beat the Broncos 2) they beat the Steelers 3) the Broncos lose to the Chiefs 4) Miami loses to the Browns or Jets AND 5) Indy loses to the Giants or Jags IF those all come true, you gotta give it to Joe B
@ what? The three teams lose means the Bengals make the playoffs. If the Bengals somehow make the playoffs then Joe Burrow 1000% deserves MVP. He is leading the league in passing yards and TDs, his WR1 is leading the league in yards, receptions and TDs. Having a losing record when scoring 30+ points (while the rest of the league is like 26-4) in games where a team scores 30+ because of Burrow the Bengals got the best offence in the league
@@kingroyalty9621 if the Ravens didn’t have Henry at RB, they would need to throw the ball more often. Since defences are more worried about the run game over the passing game, Lamar has a much easier time throwing the ball. Without Henry, Lamar’s numbers are nowhere near as good. Not to mention because Henry’s numbers are so good, Lamar is clearly NOT the MVP. An average QB would thrive in the Baltimore, whereas an average QB in Cinci or Buffalo would struggle significantly and wouldn’t be anywhere near a playoff team. Hope that helps, thanks for playing. Lamar overrated.
@ 😂😂😂😂 teams are forcing Lamar to give the ball to Henry …They are so focus on NOT allowing Lamar to beat them they are allowing Henry to run free 😂 I can tell u don’t know what your talking about …never played the game …don’t understand game …u just typing lol …Lamar is responsible for Henry going off Not the other way around …Lamar has always been Lamar!
Bills are 3-3 against current playoff teams, Ravens are 7-3 against current playoffs teams. Josh is not a lock his team has been more solid. Lamar had to deal with his defense being trash for 10 weeks and kicker missing easy kicks , Ravens can be easily 14-2 right now.
Everyone who understands football knows how Henry is a cheat code for the passing game, and is a big reason why the Ravens have the most separation in the league, while Allen has the least. It's not a stats award, it should be Allen this season clearly.
Just being real...we know who's the real MVP MV3 EASILY 🎯💪💯...not even close.... Its a narrative push for Josh... Especially since those other yt QBs who they be wishing and hoping for 🤷🤦... They knew if they let Lamar Jackson play QB... That people will really wake up to a dual threat is wayy better than the stationary boring QB 🤷💯
@BillsMafiaExperience nal... Lamar Jackson blowed out all the wannabe MVP QBs last year🤷.... He was the #1 seed...🎯 Not Josh 🤷 He put on a show...plus last year the whole league was down in numbers... Lamar Jackson had a share of the best numbers last year 🎯💯... So it's not like that's the same thing... Just face it... MVP MV3 EASILY 🎯💪💯
"Stationary qb"? Tell us you are completely ignorant to Josh Allen. He is like John Elway but bigger and faster with a stronger arm as a qb. As a runner he is the Jim Brown of qbs. He can run around you, by you, hurdle over you like an Olympian, or go through you and he enjoys contact and they CANNOT stop him, try as they may. Lamar cannot do that. Seriously. Allen would be a top 5 running back in the NFL. But his dual threat ability makes him perform at another level no one else is truly on. Allen can do what Mahomes and Jackson do on a field but they cannot do all that Allen can. That is a fact. You need to watch a highlight reel of him. Also Allen is the least sacked qb and that is MOSTLY on him not his line. He is incredibly difficult to sack. Great pocket awareness, mobility, quickness burst and speed. He had a 52 yd run @20mph thru around and over the Pittsburgh D in the playoffs. Allen is different. Allen is MVP taking a supposed team that would miss the playoffs they all said all the way to a 12-3 record and highly likely 2 seed. Josh has 2 less losses, better late statement performances, he beat the #1 seeds in both conference's and only one to beat Mahomes and Chiefs. Allen is about to break his own NFL record of 40+ tds in a 5th straight seasons. Lamar did it what? Once? Twice maybe? Allen has less turnovers than Lamar this year. Read that over again. Allen has 2 fumbles. Lamar has 10. Funny how they never mention that on ESPN. I told ya why. Furthermore, Lamar has receivers with best separation yardage in NFL #1. Bills wr"s are dead last. Josh doing more with less. I could go on. If you took Josh Allen off the Bills and used a solid journeyman backup, the Bills would be a 3 win team. Lamar's would still make a wild card probably, 9 wins minimum. They're that much better team and coaching. But Allen is an elevating guy. 1 of 1. Lamar is a great qb but overrated and overhyped by the corporate sports media paid off talking heads. They want the woke choice for today's nfl coverboys. No more Tom Brady. They want faces like Mahomes and Lamar Jackson as their new ambassadors of the NFL. It's woke tokenism in everything. Politics, schools, movies and TV and sports and it's all coming from above. The ruling class wants to divide the working class. It's working. Last year Josh Allen deserved the MVP and was robbed by the 15th rated passer. Don't anyone dare tell me that Lamar's stats matter. Allen's were the best. #1 in total touchdowns. #1 total yards. Top-5 in every meaningful qb stat and analytic while Lamar was middling. But Lamar had 2 more wins. JOSH has those 2 wins this time. Lamar had 1 better seed. It's Buffalo this time. Lamar had that insane game vs 49ers late last year. A couple games vs top contenders. This year Allen had the late statement performances in prime time. The undefeated Chiefs, 49ers snow bowl/Allen is superman game, Rams 6 td record breaking game and 12-1 Lions. Lamar beat up on Giants AND lost to Raiders and Browns!! Yeah they beat us at Baltimore, but minus like 10 starters dude. And it was September. Not much bearing now. And it wasn't really Lamar who beat the Bills backups, it was Henry with his 200+ yd multi td performance. Lamar was mid. So many Lamar fans don't even live in reality on that. Allen has broken 14 NFL records this season and jaq azz biased analysts conveniently leave all that and more out because they hate Allen and are being paid to push the owner classes choice. And they have their agenda. The NFL has an agenda. Facts people don't always know and can't always accept unfortunately. Happy holidays to Ravens fans. It's Allen's MVP this year or the whole thing is rigged bs.
Of course Josh Allen isn’t a lock for MVP. 😂😂. All it took was one bad game against a pretty darn good New England defense for you talking heads to talk up Lamar and Barkley and even Joe Burrow. The Bills will beat the Jets to lock up the #2 spot, and will end up being the only team to beat the Chiefs when it counted all season, yet if Josh has a second below average game in a row, I’m sure he’ll be completely out of the MVP running altogether.
Haven't you heard? It doesn't matter if you beat the Chiefs in the regular season have to do it in the postseason; at least if they hold Allen to the same standard as Lamar. I'm glad you're admitting Allen had a bad game against a bad team in his division. He still won that game. Yet Lamar's loss to the Browns is held against him when his defense and Kicker lost that game. I guess there goes the argument that Allen is doing more with less. Allen should've been out the convo after losing h2h against Lamar and posting a league worst 9/30 against the Texans. But here we are. How is it a good look that your guy was riding the beach in the 4th quarter after getting stomped 35-10?
@ I have no idea what you’re talking about. Last I checked this conversation was about this year’s MVP race. Lamar Jackson has already won it despite never beating the Chiefs in the playoffs, so why on earth should Allen NOT be eligible to win it despite never beating Chiefs in the playoffs? Don’t worry though, Allen won’t win the MVP unless he throws for about 500 yards and 8 TD’s against the Jets tomorrow. Anything less and before anyone plays anyone else in the playoffs the MVP will end up back on Lamar Jackson’s trophy case again.
Allen has had a cupcake schedule, playing the Lions who were decimated by injuries 16 players on defense. The Chiefs has nearly been beating by several teams this year including the Panthers so that is not saying much. Josh has had the worse game of the season QB wise throwing 9/30 and the team still won so was that supporting cast or soft schedule.
@@torreytrogdon1742 The Bills “cupcake” schedule is out of their control. The Ravens may have played a tougher schedule but they still managed to lose to two “cupcake” teams Las Vegas and Cleveland.
Josh has James Cook who has 14 TDs and avg 5.1 per curry. Josh has had the worse game by QB in the league this year throwing 9/30 and they still won so is that supporting cast or cupcake schedule? He has a QB rating less than 70, 3 times. He had three good games and one he lost. He played a Lions team that had 16 players on defense injured. Vome on to say he is a lock is delusional.
Yes you cherry picked all the bad stats, now show the good ones. Also Bal actually has the easier schedule!! Lamar has Henry and the most wr separation in the league, hof RB and the, yet Allen has lead a weaker team to 2 more wins. It's clearly Allen this year, Lamar is great but has waaaaay more help.
Anyone whining about Saquan breaking the record being unfair because he has 17 games is ridiculous. Eric Dickerson broke OJ’s single season record having not one, but TWO extra games
35-10 chat.. 9/30 for MVP 🔥🔥
You forgot about the other 15 games 😂
You forgot about the other 15 games 😂
It's hilarious how many people lost money on Canada!!! I love it.
It's funny that Luke says he is disgusted listening to experts and thinking they are dumb. Luke has some of the worst takes and information for someone who played in the league. He embarrasses himself when he speaks.
Overmatched my ass
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❤nd his four year he was actually finally allowed to naturally be himself‼️👌😤🤬🩸🥊🥊
Feschuk: NFL Playoffs best time of the year. Come one Dave. No way it's better than NHL playoffs while NBA playoffs are on and MLB starting up. Or even MLB winding down, NHL, NBA starting up and NFL mid season.
You take Canada and you lost
CFL is still better than NFL.
"7 1/2 for Canada...I'd take Canada..." Jesus. This is why should diversify your sporting interests as a nation. You've now been humiliated, Canada, in the sport where you have every advantage. I mean I guess when you're on top, you can only go down...but you lads were a million miles off the plot...showing your ass that you don't actually know anything how Junior hockey (who would?) other than to assume all of the Canadian players will go on to great NHL careers. HUGE joke on Canada as a nation today. WOOF. Shame on Mike Johnson today too for being able to wake up and call himself a hockey analyst
If you look at the past 5 or so games theres a reason why they were so heavily favored. No analyst, especially a pro one, wouldve or should've said otherwise lol. The only embarrassment was the Canadian team themselves, not showing up lmao. What you on about?
Lamar has been better, and actually plays in a Division with two other good teams. Bills division is a joke.
Allen has a better QBR and EPA…Allen has QB’ed his team to wins against the #1 seed in the AFC and NFC while Lamar lost to the Raiders at home and Cleveland….ALLEN HAS DONE MORE WITH LESS…ALLEN IS THE MVP
And Lamar lost to the worst 2 teams in the nfl and lost to a steelers team who kicked field goals to beat them
@@orphy6869Lamar had 40 td, to Allen’s 26 thus far.
I agree. Lamar is the better player. Crushed Josh head to head. Better stats by far. Better record vs winning teams
@@orphy6869allen doesn’t have less and he clearly hasn’t done more. Way worst stats. Only 3-3 vs winning teams this year. Lamar is 9-3 vs teams over .500. Josh has a star rb who single handily beat the Pats while Josh looks awful. The best o line in football is in buffalo look at the advanced stats. Good wr core. Lamar has never had a number 1 wr. Josh looked awful before they traded for Amari Cooper.
Allen is a lock for MVP… only IF the Bengals miss the playoffs. If the Bengals can somehow sneak in if:
1) they beat the Broncos
2) they beat the Steelers
3) the Broncos lose to the Chiefs
4) Miami loses to the Browns or Jets
AND
5) Indy loses to the Giants or Jags
IF those all come true, you gotta give it to Joe B
if three other teams lose which has nothing to do with joe burrow we should give it to joe burrow. makes sense!
@ what? The three teams lose means the Bengals make the playoffs. If the Bengals somehow make the playoffs then Joe Burrow 1000% deserves MVP. He is leading the league in passing yards and TDs, his WR1 is leading the league in yards, receptions and TDs. Having a losing record when scoring 30+ points (while the rest of the league is like 26-4) in games where a team scores 30+ because of Burrow the Bengals got the best offence in the league
This argument is hilarious….so u have no problem giving it to Joey B but yet Lamar numbers is also better than his ? 🤔😂😂😂
@@kingroyalty9621 if the Ravens didn’t have Henry at RB, they would need to throw the ball more often. Since defences are more worried about the run game over the passing game, Lamar has a much easier time throwing the ball. Without Henry, Lamar’s numbers are nowhere near as good. Not to mention because Henry’s numbers are so good, Lamar is clearly NOT the MVP. An average QB would thrive in the Baltimore, whereas an average QB in Cinci or Buffalo would struggle significantly and wouldn’t be anywhere near a playoff team.
Hope that helps, thanks for playing. Lamar overrated.
@ 😂😂😂😂 teams are forcing Lamar to give the ball to Henry …They are so focus on NOT allowing Lamar to beat them they are allowing Henry to run free 😂 I can tell u don’t know what your talking about …never played the game …don’t understand game …u just typing lol …Lamar is responsible for Henry going off Not the other way around …Lamar has always been Lamar!
Bills are 3-3 against current playoff teams, Ravens are 7-3 against current playoffs teams. Josh is not a lock his team has been more solid. Lamar had to deal with his defense being trash for 10 weeks and kicker missing easy kicks , Ravens can be easily 14-2 right now.
Everyone who understands football knows how Henry is a cheat code for the passing game, and is a big reason why the Ravens have the most separation in the league, while Allen has the least. It's not a stats award, it should be Allen this season clearly.
Just being real...we know who's the real MVP MV3 EASILY 🎯💪💯...not even close.... Its a narrative push for Josh... Especially since those other yt QBs who they be wishing and hoping for 🤷🤦... They knew if they let Lamar Jackson play QB... That people will really wake up to a dual threat is wayy better than the stationary boring QB 🤷💯
Then Allen should've won Lamar's mvp last year by the same criteria you say he's won THIS year.
@BillsMafiaExperience nal... Lamar Jackson blowed out all the wannabe MVP QBs last year🤷.... He was the #1 seed...🎯 Not Josh 🤷 He put on a show...plus last year the whole league was down in numbers... Lamar Jackson had a share of the best numbers last year 🎯💯... So it's not like that's the same thing... Just face it... MVP MV3 EASILY 🎯💪💯
"Stationary qb"? Tell us you are completely ignorant to Josh Allen. He is like John Elway but bigger and faster with a stronger arm as a qb. As a runner he is the Jim Brown of qbs. He can run around you, by you, hurdle over you like an Olympian, or go through you and he enjoys contact and they CANNOT stop him, try as they may. Lamar cannot do that. Seriously. Allen would be a top 5 running back in the NFL. But his dual threat ability makes him perform at another level no one else is truly on. Allen can do what Mahomes and Jackson do on a field but they cannot do all that Allen can. That is a fact. You need to watch a highlight reel of him. Also Allen is the least sacked qb and that is MOSTLY on him not his line. He is incredibly difficult to sack. Great pocket awareness, mobility, quickness burst and speed. He had a 52 yd run @20mph thru around and over the Pittsburgh D in the playoffs. Allen is different. Allen is MVP taking a supposed team that would miss the playoffs they all said all the way to a 12-3 record and highly likely 2 seed. Josh has 2 less losses, better late statement performances, he beat the #1 seeds in both conference's and only one to beat Mahomes and Chiefs. Allen is about to break his own NFL record of 40+ tds in a 5th straight seasons. Lamar did it what? Once? Twice maybe?
Allen has less turnovers than Lamar this year. Read that over again. Allen has 2 fumbles. Lamar has 10. Funny how they never mention that on ESPN. I told ya why. Furthermore, Lamar has receivers with best separation yardage in NFL #1. Bills wr"s are dead last. Josh doing more with less. I could go on. If you took Josh Allen off the Bills and used a solid journeyman backup, the Bills would be a 3 win team. Lamar's would still make a wild card probably, 9 wins minimum. They're that much better team and coaching. But Allen is an elevating guy. 1 of 1.
Lamar is a great qb but overrated and overhyped by the corporate sports media paid off talking heads. They want the woke choice for today's nfl coverboys. No more Tom Brady. They want faces like Mahomes and Lamar Jackson as their new ambassadors of the NFL. It's woke tokenism in everything. Politics, schools, movies and TV and sports and it's all coming from above. The ruling class wants to divide the working class. It's working.
Last year Josh Allen deserved the MVP and was robbed by the 15th rated passer. Don't anyone dare tell me that Lamar's stats matter. Allen's were the best. #1 in total touchdowns. #1 total yards. Top-5 in every meaningful qb stat and analytic while Lamar was middling. But Lamar had 2 more wins. JOSH has those 2 wins this time. Lamar had 1 better seed. It's Buffalo this time. Lamar had that insane game vs 49ers late last year. A couple games vs top contenders. This year Allen had the late statement performances in prime time. The undefeated Chiefs, 49ers snow bowl/Allen is superman game, Rams 6 td record breaking game and 12-1 Lions. Lamar beat up on Giants AND lost to Raiders and Browns!! Yeah they beat us at Baltimore, but minus like 10 starters dude. And it was September. Not much bearing now. And it wasn't really Lamar who beat the Bills backups, it was Henry with his 200+ yd multi td performance. Lamar was mid. So many Lamar fans don't even live in reality on that.
Allen has broken 14 NFL records this season and jaq azz biased analysts conveniently leave all that and more out because they hate Allen and are being paid to push the owner classes choice. And they have their agenda. The NFL has an agenda. Facts people don't always know and can't always accept unfortunately. Happy holidays to Ravens fans. It's Allen's MVP this year or the whole thing is rigged bs.
Checkmate. 😂
@BillsMafiaExperience a Real Checkmate 🤡we know who's the real MVP MV3 EASILY 💪🎯💯
Of course Josh Allen isn’t a lock for MVP. 😂😂. All it took was one bad game against a pretty darn good New England defense for you talking heads to talk up Lamar and Barkley and even Joe Burrow. The Bills will beat the Jets to lock up the #2 spot, and will end up being the only team to beat the Chiefs when it counted all season, yet if Josh has a second below average game in a row, I’m sure he’ll be completely out of the MVP running altogether.
Haven't you heard? It doesn't matter if you beat the Chiefs in the regular season have to do it in the postseason; at least if they hold Allen to the same standard as Lamar.
I'm glad you're admitting Allen had a bad game against a bad team in his division. He still won that game. Yet Lamar's loss to the Browns is held against him when his defense and Kicker lost that game. I guess there goes the argument that Allen is doing more with less.
Allen should've been out the convo after losing h2h against Lamar and posting a league worst 9/30 against the Texans. But here we are. How is it a good look that your guy was riding the beach in the 4th quarter after getting stomped 35-10?
@ I have no idea what you’re talking about. Last I checked this conversation was about this year’s MVP race. Lamar Jackson has already won it despite never beating the Chiefs in the playoffs, so why on earth should Allen NOT be eligible to win it despite never beating Chiefs in the playoffs? Don’t worry though, Allen won’t win the MVP unless he throws for about 500 yards and 8 TD’s against the Jets tomorrow. Anything less and before anyone plays anyone else in the playoffs the MVP will end up back on Lamar Jackson’s trophy case again.
Allen has had a cupcake schedule, playing the Lions who were decimated by injuries 16 players on defense. The Chiefs has nearly been beating by several teams this year including the Panthers so that is not saying much. Josh has had the worse game of the season QB wise throwing 9/30 and the team still won so was that supporting cast or soft schedule.
@@torreytrogdon1742 The Bills “cupcake” schedule is out of their control. The Ravens may have played a tougher schedule but they still managed to lose to two “cupcake” teams Las Vegas and Cleveland.
@@torreytrogdon1742Bills have a tougher schedule than the Ravens though so ....
Josh has James Cook who has 14 TDs and avg 5.1 per curry. Josh has had the worse game by QB in the league this year throwing 9/30 and they still won so is that supporting cast or cupcake schedule? He has a QB rating less than 70, 3 times. He had three good games and one he lost. He played a Lions team that had 16 players on defense injured. Vome on to say he is a lock is delusional.
They lost lol
Yes you cherry picked all the bad stats, now show the good ones. Also Bal actually has the easier schedule!! Lamar has Henry and the most wr separation in the league, hof RB and the, yet Allen has lead a weaker team to 2 more wins. It's clearly Allen this year, Lamar is great but has waaaaay more help.
Lamar has been better, and actually plays in a Division with two other good teams. Bills division is a joke.