How To Get The PERFECT First Layer on Your 3D Prints

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @katt4787
    @katt4787 Год назад +13

    Thank you SO MUCH, there are so many junk videos out there for explaining z-offset, you explained it beautifully and really helped me fix my prints. +1 subscriber.

  • @YoussefNageeb1
    @YoussefNageeb1 Год назад +7

    FINALLY someone who actually helps with the z offset

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  Год назад

      Glad to be of help!

    • @YoussefNageeb1
      @YoussefNageeb1 Год назад

      @@designbydave you deserve tons of subscribers. Thanks for this

    • @lametoe
      @lametoe 5 месяцев назад

      ^^^ This. I was getting a subtle "tiger stripe" pattern on my first layer, and Dave nailed the diagnosis. Thanks a ton!

  • @YetiCaveMedia
    @YetiCaveMedia Год назад +4

    Ok, this was a great video. Explaining the exact shape of the nozzle distance issues is what I needed. It made it all click. Most people just show a picture and say too close too far. Thank you so much for this video!

  • @EnanoForro
    @EnanoForro 3 месяца назад +1

    1st and only tutorial that shows the printing with Low, right and high Z offset.
    Really helpfull. Thanks.

  • @PrincessPumprnickle
    @PrincessPumprnickle Год назад +3

    Thank you for this video! I have been trying to print a part with small holes for mounting and was having problems with warping and decreased adhesion around the small areas on the first layer. Increasing the bed temp, decreasing print speed, and adjusting the z-offset in real time while watching the first layer was just the trick I needed. Again thank you so much!

  • @tristanw8865
    @tristanw8865 Год назад +9

    Oh man, exactly the video I needed! I had those tiger stripes rippling through my first layer. It was a struggle to find a video with exactly this problem. Thanks for making this video.

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  Год назад +2

      Glad it helped!

    • @911Hammer
      @911Hammer 7 месяцев назад

      Agree.. best video out there on this topic! ❤ it!

  • @peterstoltz3296
    @peterstoltz3296 2 месяца назад +1

    Great information for new and old printers people 👍..I'm a few months into 3d printing..

  • @martyj5538
    @martyj5538 Год назад +1

    Showing examples of bad z offset was super helpful!

  • @naidol
    @naidol Год назад +1

    Best common sense explanation on the internet. Thanks 👍

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  Год назад

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @Tom_Neverwinter
      @Tom_Neverwinter 10 месяцев назад

      yet this is a trained item.... so how was it common sense...

  • @sahhull
    @sahhull 6 месяцев назад +1

    If you have an Ender3.
    Dont expect your bed to be flat.
    Mine are lower in the middle.
    I fixed it by sticking some alu tape to the magnetic surface.
    It shimmed up the middle enough to level it.

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  6 месяцев назад

      That's pretty much going to be the case for most print beds. I made an updated video where I talk about that a bit, and the need for a probe to compensate. Your idea for mechanically "flattening" the bed sounds like something worth trying as well.

  • @lamb212
    @lamb212 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, great video. Comprehensive and so well presented. Thanks, I learnt so much :)

  • @shaun8309
    @shaun8309 Год назад +2

    Can't wait to follow your advise! I'll give some feedback soon. Just got a Ender 6, small parts print perfectly, but larger parts not so good.

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  Год назад +1

      There's a lot a play with larger parts other then the first layer to consider. Material warp as it prints, supports etc. However a good first layer is critical.

    • @shaun8309
      @shaun8309 Год назад +1

      @@designbydave Shot man. I'm pulling my hair out from frustration. But I'm sure I'll get eventually. Thinking now that I have never set my z axis home adjustment screw when assembling the printer.

  • @whoarewenow
    @whoarewenow 10 месяцев назад +1

    thank you for explanation!
    but what if right bottom of the bed is too far and in the same time left up - is tooo close while testing? How can i proceed here without any adjustable knobs on corners?
    ender v3 ke, autoleveling and auto z offset

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  10 месяцев назад

      I'm not sure I understand. Your printer should still have a way to mechanically level the bed before doing the auto leveling

    • @whoarewenow
      @whoarewenow 10 месяцев назад

      @designbydave
      no, in new Creality printers there is no manual knobs anymore. Ender v3 KE, CR 10 se, K1 - nope. Everything on bed sensor

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  10 месяцев назад

      I'm not sure about those printers. There must be a way to mechanically level the bed to a "good enough" state before the auto calibration. I suspect that is done at the factory before shipping. Perhaps your printer is mechanically too far from level that the auto calibration can't compensate. You will need to look into a specific leveling procedure / workflow for your printer. @@whoarewenow

  • @WolfgerSilberbaer
    @WolfgerSilberbaer 2 года назад +5

    Thanks for some good examples. Nozzle too close to print bed is 100% my issue.

  • @The3DMonster
    @The3DMonster 3 месяца назад +2

    my prints were coming of and kind of balling up on the very first layer i watched some viudeos and changed some things but it didnt work then i saw your video and relized it wasnt the bed or the filament it was just my z distance. It still some times messes up but its a lot better

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  3 месяца назад

      Glad to help. I monitor and often adjust my z offset with every print.

  • @grayparagon4164
    @grayparagon4164 2 года назад +4

    I liked how you kept it VERY quick and beginner friendly for those slicer settings that help with first layer. I think this is a missing link for me thats gonna help beyond just touching that bed all the time.. prolly too much messing with the whole 4 corner bed leveling for my own good.

  • @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf
    @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hello
    I have a question I’m kinda new to 3d printing and I’m not sure if it’s normal or not that’s why I came here but the bottom of my 3d print I feel like it’s too visible and has a lot of lines pls help me!
    Thanks.

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  7 месяцев назад +1

      The appearance of the bottom of your print will depend on the print bed surface. If it's smooth, you should expect to see the extrusion pattern (lines.) A textured bed will help to hide those lines.

    • @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf
      @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf 7 месяцев назад

      @@designbydavehey I don’t get it
      Do u have insta so I can show u a pic of what I mean?

    • @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf
      @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf 7 месяцев назад

      @@designbydavepls answer man your the only hope I got.

  • @gravis00
    @gravis00 Год назад +1

    Fantastic video. Great explanation and examples

  • @SVSky
    @SVSky 3 года назад +3

    Thanks this is super helpful. Having to learn this through trial and error has been tough.

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  3 года назад

      Glad to help!
      Yeah it can be tricky to isolate variables, especially as those variables change with materials, and even part geometry.
      Lots of people post online "WhAt'S WRonG wIth My prINT?" without taking the time to investigate. And then the responses are often less then helpful.

  • @mgrantom
    @mgrantom 2 года назад +1

    Very succinct. This helped me a bunch. Thanks!

  • @tomwilliams2753
    @tomwilliams2753 Год назад

    thank you for problem solving advice that saved me. Go halve the manufactures temperatures range. 10 degrees between crap and strawberries. thank you.

  • @robodelux
    @robodelux Год назад +1

    Great information, I will have to try hairspray.

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  Год назад

      A slight update to this, I might suggest trying Magigoo adhesive as possibly a better alternative. I haven't tried it with PETG, but with PLA its great. They also make nylon and polycarbonate specific versions which work perfectly. They are all water soluble so they wash off the part and build plate easily.

  • @UzunKamis
    @UzunKamis Год назад +1

    Important points, thank you.

  • @turtletuga1785
    @turtletuga1785 Год назад +1

    ❤ Thank you so much great video

  • @JDMRaw
    @JDMRaw 3 года назад +4

    my first layer on my ender 3 v 2 while printing a lithophane box had good squish and great adheasion, the only issue i had was the lines of each pass were just barely touching like fine hair, just missing eachother. if i pull the first layer off and looked through it, it would be like looking out of cosplay white eyes. so that first layer at .2 layer hight making it .25 may work. thank you

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  3 года назад +2

      What you're describing usually means that the z offset is too high, however in that case you would likely have very poor adhesion.
      I would first check that you are extruding properly. Calibrate esteps and then flow %.
      Also check the extrusion width in your slicer. I'm usually at 0.45mm width for a 0.4mm nozzle.

    • @JDMRaw
      @JDMRaw 3 года назад +2

      @@designbydave zoffset is good, bed is level. I’ll have to check the width. How do you calibrate flow? I have my Esteps calibrated.

    • @JDMRaw
      @JDMRaw 3 года назад

      @@designbydave also my extrusion widths are set as percentages. I’m using super slicer. It does a pretty good job. It’s just. You can use % or mm to justify settings.

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  3 года назад +1

      @@JDMRaw calibrate flow percent (Prusaslice3r calls it "extrusion multiplier) by printing a small, single or double perimeter, hollow object and measure the wall thickness. It should be the extrusion width specified in your settings. If not, adjust multiplier accordingly.

  • @acondi4853
    @acondi4853 3 года назад +2

    Hi David, awesome video!
    just wandering if you had a video about insulating the inside of your ender 6?
    and why you did it?
    Thanks, keep up the awesome vids!

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  3 года назад

      Hey thanks for checking it out! I don't have a video about the insulation and I put that in after I made my main Ender-6 video. I just lined the inside with cheap, garage door insulation, held on with double sided tape. The insulation keeps the enclosure warm, not quite as warm as a proper heated enclosure, but warm enough to print challenging materials like ABS, ASA and Polycarbonate. See my video about printing carbon fiber PC for more on that - ruclips.net/video/6PIEF9uWKSA/видео.html

    • @acondi4853
      @acondi4853 3 года назад +1

      @@designbydave thank you very much. I have already watched that video. it’s awesome!

  • @1937Brett
    @1937Brett Год назад +1

    How do u access the printer settings on the pc

  • @domlebel
    @domlebel 7 месяцев назад +1

    your a boss man !! thanks a lot

  • @kibagami25
    @kibagami25 Год назад +1

    I've heard people use G10 and G11 sometimes. This material is great and has high heat levels.

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  Год назад

      Yes those can be great from what I here.

  • @F1v30h1
    @F1v30h1 Год назад +1

    Seems that my temperatures are across the board 10 degrees higher then want is recommended by the manufacturer. New to 3d printing so not sure what to make of it…

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  Год назад

      As long as you are getting desirable print results, that shouldn't be an issue. Could be that your thermistors are not that accurate which wouldn't be unheard of considering these mostly cheap, mass produced components in consumer level 3d Printers.

  • @ApolloFX_CZ
    @ApolloFX_CZ Год назад +1

    soo thanks to you i now know my Z offset was too low ..... thank you very much

  • @paulcole1171
    @paulcole1171 2 года назад

    the problem I am have is that the first layer is not coming away from my project any ideas to why please

    • @designbydave
      @designbydave  2 года назад

      "first layer not coming away from my project"
      What? More details please

    • @paulcole1171
      @paulcole1171 2 года назад

      @@designbydave The initial first layer that goes onto the bed before the project starts on top of it which is fine and it sticks to the bed nicely but when the project is finished and I try to remove or seperate the first layer or bed layer from the project it is stuck fast to the project and very hard to remove

    • @Mindless_One
      @Mindless_One Год назад

      @@paulcole1171 Let the Bed cool down before trying to remove the part,,, if its still stuck hard and won't come off,,, remove part and build plate ( i assume your using Glass or some type of removable plate) and put it the Fridge or Freezer for a while -,

  • @1937Brett
    @1937Brett Год назад

    The 1st one happened to me on a new bed I had to heat my bed plate more

  • @jaycurtis213
    @jaycurtis213 Год назад +1

    Are u active

  • @infernape28
    @infernape28 Месяц назад +1

    don't use IPA to clean your print bed. You're not removing oils, you're just spreading them once the IPA evaporates.
    Just use dish soap and warm water.

  • @MegaTechnoteacher
    @MegaTechnoteacher Год назад +1

    Bed Traming not leveling