Garry Kasparov vs. Deep Blue: The Chess Battle For Humanity

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    This is the Garry Kasparov and Deep Blue chess match of 1996 and 1997. Before the days of Alpha Zero, Stockfish, Leela... there was IBM's Deep Blue.
    0:00 Intro
    0:32 1996 GAME 1
    7:02 1996 GAME 2
    10:17 1996 GAME 6
    14:27 1997 GAME 1
    18:57 1997 GAME 2
    25:22 FINAL GAME
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  • @badalkoirala
    @badalkoirala 3 года назад +11568

    Back then Engines were accused of using players and now players are accused of using engines.

    • @mykonos466
      @mykonos466 3 года назад +274

      good times

    • @rengarora.f.k3452
      @rengarora.f.k3452 3 года назад +44

      @@Dducksquad lmao

    • @blunderbus2695
      @blunderbus2695 3 года назад +146

      @@Dducksquad
      My, how the turn tables

    • @jedinxf7
      @jedinxf7 3 года назад +11

      lol true

    • @philippebaillargeon5204
      @philippebaillargeon5204 3 года назад +66

      Basically AI vs brute force. Brute force is the shittiest approach you can use to solve a problem while AI in this case is the best best approach.

  • @davidmikan7925
    @davidmikan7925 3 года назад +5844

    2021: this human is cheating with an engine
    1996: this engine is cheating with a human 😤

  • @DanjasLP
    @DanjasLP 2 года назад +3699

    Garry in game 3 straight up went:
    Garry: "Draw?"
    Deep Blue Team: "Nah"
    Garry: "It's treason then"

  • @benjaminoechsli1941
    @benjaminoechsli1941 Год назад +2373

    Watching in December 2022, I'd love to see GMs of today take on these old engines.

    • @Makowako_
      @Makowako_ Год назад +30

      Yes

    • @adamkings4124
      @adamkings4124 Год назад +5

      Same

    • @JohannesMariaRunge
      @JohannesMariaRunge Год назад +154

      Because they have learned from the machines as well...its insane.

    • @mihalymoravszki1874
      @mihalymoravszki1874 Год назад +2

      Me too

    • @unbearablepun8608
      @unbearablepun8608 Год назад +141

      @@JohannesMariaRunge it’s crazy watching these and how Garry adjusted his play so quickly to counter the deep blue’s play style. His brain took him 1 or 2 games and he knew exactly what he had to do if he wanted to win at the time. AI’s today could never be trained that quickly even with the number of ‘neuron connections’ rivaling the human brain. It’s just a cool thing to think abt i thought

  • @FefeElChat
    @FefeElChat 2 года назад +7274

    "You'll notice that he plays a reverse Grunfeld"
    Me, 600 elo: mhm yes of course

    • @SpiceLettuce
      @SpiceLettuce 2 года назад +841

      Ah yes, the… reverse garfield?

    • @sanukayjayawardana9786
      @sanukayjayawardana9786 2 года назад +39

      @@SpiceLettuce no grunfeld

    • @SpiceLettuce
      @SpiceLettuce 2 года назад +531

      @@sanukayjayawardana9786 that’s the joke, you see. It implied I was so inexperienced that I did not understand what he was saying.

    • @Matthew-pc3zx
      @Matthew-pc3zx 2 года назад +167

      @@sanukayjayawardana9786 r/woosh

    • @Noir0rioN
      @Noir0rioN 2 года назад +111

      I always play the modified double helix (but only if white opens with horsey jumping the mini-phallus). Fun side note: "check, mate?" is also widely used in Australia on paydays. #themoreyouknow.

  • @jacobshahwan3820
    @jacobshahwan3820 3 года назад +3637

    "I drew a treadmill"
    This is what true advancement looks like

    • @thebus3181
      @thebus3181 3 года назад +61

      I drew a horse

    • @theinnerwaffle5887
      @theinnerwaffle5887 3 года назад +124

      @@thebus3181 Why are you playing chess with your mom?

    • @thebus3181
      @thebus3181 3 года назад +17

      @@theinnerwaffle5887 I am confused what does this mean

    • @tristian14
      @tristian14 3 года назад +49

      @@thebus3181 he called your mom a horse

    • @thebus3181
      @thebus3181 3 года назад +81

      @@tristian14 Oh thanks

  • @Randomguy-fu2et
    @Randomguy-fu2et 3 месяца назад +28

    "hey im watching in 2024" wtf I had a heart attack when you said that

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 Год назад +441

    Garry made the classic blunder that has been the downfall of countless powerful people; He underestimated his opponent. Trying to exploit the unique features of chess-playing computers was smart, and it mostly worked, but he put WAY too much confidence in his own understanding of how computers played and it backfired, he took lines he otherwise never would've taken just in an attempt to exploit their novelty and he paid for it when the computer didn't react as he expected it to.
    But I suppose he figured that the computer would have the advantage in positional play due to being able to calculate so far ahead and it was worth the risk? Even though there were games where his strong positional play won him the game?

    • @anastasiadudette706
      @anastasiadudette706 Год назад +25

      Deep blue: "It's over Garry I have the advantage"
      Garry: "You underestimate my power."

    • @theangry0077
      @theangry0077 Год назад +5

      id say that positional play would be better than tactical considering the limited depth, it wouldnt be like today’s stockfish which can see 25 moves into the future in seconds. however, even its limited depth would be enough to counter most tactics but probably wouldnt be enough to fully gauge how powerful positional play can be. just a theory tho

    • @vwlz8637
      @vwlz8637 11 месяцев назад +2

      humans v machines of then be like "hehe this piece of trash thinks it can play better than me?"
      humans v machines of now be like "teach me, sensei"

    • @_qwerty_3545
      @_qwerty_3545 9 месяцев назад +7

      I would actually completely argue against this. My info on the situation may not be entirely accurate, but in a documentary I watched, it made a point of detailing that deep blue after the first match was specifically trained to beat Kasparov. The AI used training data from a ton of Kasparov games so he’d know how to respond to Kasparovs normal moves. Since the AI knew all his moves, Kasparov switched up his tactics and had to play differently.
      Not to mention, Kasparov had every right to assume his tricks that had worked in previous matches would work as the only reason they didn’t was because in between matches the ai was actively being updated, taking out any bugs and the such so he had no real choice but to refind out what he could continue to exploit and what was no longer possible.
      Frankly I don’t see it as overconfidence at all, I actually see the opposite. I believe that all the constant changes to deep blue, the over serialized environment, and the inability to use his comfortable play style had given Kasparov a ton of anxiety causing him to play not at the top of his game, leading to his constant resignations and loss.

  • @stefanmirea5305
    @stefanmirea5305 3 года назад +913

    "There is a treadmill out there that plays better chess than you" sounds like the worst insult you can ever hear

    • @therranolleo468
      @therranolleo468 3 года назад +30

      that's some Ramsey level insult right there

  • @youtubeviolatedme7123
    @youtubeviolatedme7123 3 года назад +1376

    Player: *breathes*
    Levy: "clearly, they are familiar with the Gothamchess video on effective breathing during chess"

  • @alienrenders
    @alienrenders 2 года назад +124

    I remember watching these games live at work. Seemed like you had to wait forever for a move. And then several times, the web site would crash and you'd have to go on usenet to find the next move. Everyone was using Fritz to analyze the games. But you needed a fast computer. I remember there being talk about one game that Kasparov resigned which was not lost (forget if he could have drawn or won). I think it was in the rematch. The rematch was really weird. Kasparov was acting very paranoid. He was trying to get the computer out of opening book instead of playing chess. He lobbed accusations on nearly every move. It didn't send a good vibe. It was almost as if Kasparov knew he was going to lose. It was a big moment when Deep Blue won because people were asking what the future of chess was. Would people still play? It signified a new era where computers were officially better players than humans. This scared a lot of people. Not for chess. But in what would come next.

  • @RichardGadsden
    @RichardGadsden Год назад +259

    I really wish we could have seen Garry stay on long enough to play Magnus on his way up: Garry vs Magnus in 2010 or so would have been magical.

    • @princedavid5075
      @princedavid5075 10 месяцев назад

      Nice

    • @patrickmadden6340
      @patrickmadden6340 5 месяцев назад +2

      They played when Magnus was 13 to a draw

    • @user-bk9fk2tq2z
      @user-bk9fk2tq2z 4 месяца назад

      I think Magnus would've won. I think that Magnus is a better player than Garry.

    • @aryan.nayak87
      @aryan.nayak87 3 месяца назад +4

      ​@@user-bk9fk2tq2z but not with ease. They again played against each other in 2020, it ended up as draw... Magnus at his one of the best phase vs Garry at his one of the worst phase... They both are at same level but due to generation gap, Magnus is slightly better than Kasparov.

    • @shashishekhar----
      @shashishekhar---- 16 дней назад

      ​@@user-bk9fk2tq2zAt their both absolute best Kasparov is better than Magnus

  • @furfox4099
    @furfox4099 3 года назад +2810

    “I drew a treadmill”
    - Levi Rosman, International Master

    • @user-tb8lg5jo1u
      @user-tb8lg5jo1u 2 года назад +79

      Is he a painter?

    • @smite327
      @smite327 2 года назад +21

      @@user-tb8lg5jo1u yup

    • @PianoBoyLiam
      @PianoBoyLiam 2 года назад +62

      It’s Levy Rozman, not Levi Rosman. But he is an IM, so you got that part right.

    • @cosmonut-fr
      @cosmonut-fr 2 года назад +7

      @@PianoBoyLiam its Levy Rozman not rosman ok? Its better not to mess with anyone's name

    • @cosmonut-fr
      @cosmonut-fr 2 года назад +24

      @@PianoBoyLiam sorry but i wanted to reply to the main comment, mistakenly replied urs hehe

  • @zahawolfe
    @zahawolfe 3 года назад +1611

    “I drew a treadmill” is hilarious

    • @jaydenp3078
      @jaydenp3078 3 года назад +4

      timestamp?

    • @kekaci
      @kekaci 3 года назад +17

      @@jaydenp3078 30:34

    • @MikePWJr
      @MikePWJr 3 года назад +30

      @@jaydenp3078 30:11 for context

    • @marcuspoosz2190
      @marcuspoosz2190 3 года назад +4

      i once drew a wolf. suprisingly i didn't get eaten for dinner

    • @SteveInLava
      @SteveInLava 2 года назад

      @@marcuspoosz2190 you drew a wolf in a fight? In that case you'd both be dead

  • @wealthyllama6570
    @wealthyllama6570 Год назад +18

    "When you or I push 3 pawns of opposite sides of the board, we look stupid. When Garry does it, he's y'know, trying to beat a computer."
    S+ tier quote.

  • @Shockprowl
    @Shockprowl Год назад +2

    Your historical deep-dives are really quite excellent. I haven't seen RUclips chess videos like this before. It's a really clever format of covering the entire 'event' in question, giving a commentary on the over-arching events, and nipping through some of the most important games. A superb format, and very informative. Thank you.

  • @theTman423
    @theTman423 3 года назад +5809

    For anyone interested in how the engines work:
    Brute force, used by Deep Blue and Stockfish alike, is simply just traversing a decision tree and evaluating every possible position with an evaluation function, or a mathematical equation that gives a score for each position. Stockfish is just able to do this a lot faster, because it does this with alpha-beta pruning, or skipping some branches of the decision tree because the score on others is high or low enough that it doesn’t need to evaluate every position. AlphaZero however, learns like a human by remembering patterns that lead to wins and storing them in something like a database to use for later. This is how it “learns” like a human does and seems to be more creative than other engines. It basically taught itself chess by playing against itself millions of times in order to build this database of moves. It’s a little more complicated than that, but those are the basics.

    • @sadenuttie2234
      @sadenuttie2234 3 года назад +127

      Thanks

    • @hero3926
      @hero3926 3 года назад +112

      Really wanted to like the comment but i prefer 69 likes. Nice

    • @aldoyudhistira5424
      @aldoyudhistira5424 3 года назад +128

      You are wrong in some points, Stockfish are more human.
      Human didn't remember the position and play by memories, maybe they remember openings, but not for the middle game thinking.
      Human think like Stockfish, finding what way to win the game, evaluating if the move is good or not.

    • @adbon6279
      @adbon6279 3 года назад +348

      ​@@aldoyudhistira5424Humans are more half and half and theres good saying that shows this, "Play the opening like a book, the middlegame like a magician, and the endgame like a machine". Humans in the endgame are like stockfish, they brute force calculate and remember winning scenarios, but in the middlegame, humans *need* to play intuitively. If your opponent is much weaker than you, then ofc you can just brute force it, but when youre of equal skill, esp at high levels of play, you arent going to out calculate your opponent, you need to be able to jsut understand and recognize winning patters through intuition, which is what AlphaZero does.

    • @aldoyudhistira5424
      @aldoyudhistira5424 3 года назад +57

      @@adbon6279 alright, agree then.

  • @anrel_
    @anrel_ 3 года назад +695

    I love how genuinely he delivered the line "I drew a treadmill."

    • @ZDTF
      @ZDTF 15 дней назад

      Hey pretty lady!

  • @picapow6959
    @picapow6959 Год назад +66

    It’s not “2024” but it is indeed 2022, almost 2023. Excited to see how your channel evolves :)

  • @christobita8038
    @christobita8038 Год назад +11

    I'm watching 8 days before Christmas 2022. I'm not even big on Chess, I just loved your personality when I saw you on Lex's podcast.

  • @mathsolympiadtrainer
    @mathsolympiadtrainer 3 года назад +1307

    Levy not wearing a hoodie is a rare sight...

    • @hamdanalameri2885
      @hamdanalameri2885 3 года назад +6

      RIP LEVY

    • @noammosek1319
      @noammosek1319 3 года назад +11

      He isn't honouring the hoodie guy

    • @marinzovko3258
      @marinzovko3258 3 года назад +25

      Gary is playing Deep Blue. His shirt is a deep blue color. Coincidence? I think not.

    • @TheDecree93
      @TheDecree93 3 года назад +3

      It’s a shiny Levy

    • @katana7186
      @katana7186 3 года назад

      @@TheDecree93 yes the regular levy is pink hoodie

  • @Dog3D
    @Dog3D 3 года назад +679

    "you cannot capture your own pieces"
    *surprised Pikachu face*

    • @KhallDrake
      @KhallDrake 3 года назад +22

      The USA with drones in Afghanistan: Hold my beer!

    • @Smitology
      @Smitology 2 года назад +30

      chess: friendly fire on

    • @Icy-ll5ie
      @Icy-ll5ie 2 года назад +2

      @@Smitology WHERE'S MY LASAGNA JOHN?

    • @austinfletchermusic
      @austinfletchermusic 2 года назад +4

      Would be kind of cool if you could as long as you couldn't be forced to. Imagine the SuperGM self-sacs

    • @buddermonger2000
      @buddermonger2000 2 года назад

      there's a variant which allows you to do so

  • @ross-spencer
    @ross-spencer Год назад +10

    Gary's instincts in the first series after that first loss seems to be to think like a computer until he's able to add his own flourishes, this is pretty amazing to see.

  • @tauriqobrien7869
    @tauriqobrien7869 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video - It's Aug 2022 and I seeing this for the 1st time! I heard about Garry Kasparov vs Deep blue when I was in high school. Never thought I could actually "see" the matches. Thanks for sharing

  • @jacokyle0160
    @jacokyle0160 3 года назад +639

    Gary Chess vs. the Fax machine. Truly a legendary battle

    • @valguthcsongor5263
      @valguthcsongor5263 3 года назад +2

      Was it really that hard to spell Garry right?

    • @joshuacheung1066
      @joshuacheung1066 3 года назад +31

      @@valguthcsongor5263 it’s a fucking joke you nonce

    • @shaicontrol
      @shaicontrol 3 года назад +52

      @@valguthcsongor5263 no his name is Gary Chess and he invented Chess in the 90’s

    • @vez3834
      @vez3834 3 года назад +10

      @@valguthcsongor5263 Good thing he spelled Kasparov correctly

    • @ari3903
      @ari3903 3 года назад +4

      @@valguthcsongor5263 You spent Gary wrong, do your homework before you correct people. His real name is "Gary Chess", he was a close friend of the famous biologist Zangiuli L. and his biggest achievement was inventing chess.

  • @FakerUp
    @FakerUp 3 года назад +3520

    I am not stronger than Deep Blue
    You are not stronger than Deep Blue
    He is stronger than Deep Blue

    • @edoardoprevelato6577
      @edoardoprevelato6577 3 года назад +279

      Yeah, but nowadays nobody can beat AlphaZero. Carlsen has been begged to play it countless times but never accepted because it would only result in him losing.

    • @prohz9129
      @prohz9129 3 года назад +139

      @@edoardoprevelato6577
      Not playing an engine because you’re going to lose?
      It’s not like you’re going to lose rating right?

    • @charleymiller7674
      @charleymiller7674 3 года назад +65

      Deep Blue is not stronger than Deep Blue

    • @Anoyzify
      @Anoyzify 3 года назад +274

      @@prohz9129 because it’s pointless. He can’t win his smartphone chess app, nevermind alpha zero.

    • @exodusdonley77
      @exodusdonley77 3 года назад +142

      @@prohz9129 If you go into a game knowing you're 100 percent not only going to lose but be embarrassed at the same time, the only thing that will come of it is frustration and a potential loss of dignity. In other words, it would be stupid to. Would you personally do it in his place, for the entire world to analyze?

  • @TeamDman
    @TeamDman Год назад +2

    Thank you for your content, I found your RUclips reels after getting into chess from chesssimp's content. You have such a great personality and bring so much enthusiasm that makes it so fun to watch. The engine related stuff is very interesting to me as a cs grad. Watching in Summer 2022 :D

  • @michaelcaron5756
    @michaelcaron5756 2 года назад +1

    Watching oct 3 2021 and you’ve def covered some high level chess computer games at this point! Love the channel!

  • @gray_gogy
    @gray_gogy 3 года назад +762

    Imagine the fear in the software engineer sitting across from Kasparov

    • @Nolaris3
      @Nolaris3 Год назад +270

      Funny story was that after Kasparov resigned Game 1 he asked the engineer what he could have done better and the engineer was like "uhhhhh..."

    • @VoidLantadd
      @VoidLantadd Год назад +64

      @@Nolaris3 like a 400 hiding behind stockfish beating a good player online today

    • @vwlz8637
      @vwlz8637 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@VoidLantadd except he made a fucking chess engine in the 1990s so definitely several magnitudes of IQ higher than ur average cheater

  • @DanielPetri
    @DanielPetri 3 года назад +3688

    This was fascinating to watch with modern engines in mind, thanks for taking the time to research all of that Levy!

    • @vycthorjhonson6624
      @vycthorjhonson6624 3 года назад +7

      Não esperava vc por aqui

    • @mlgklipz2543
      @mlgklipz2543 3 года назад +6

      @@vycthorjhonson6624 no

    • @roycbiv
      @roycbiv 3 года назад +3

      Thank you for suggesting it!

    • @wyleFTW
      @wyleFTW 2 года назад +1

      When he's like "my computer is still debating a draw in this position" DUDE YOUR COMPUTER IS LIKE 30 YEARS MORE ADVANCED, I understand kasparovs frustration more lol

    • @ricksouza9299
      @ricksouza9299 2 года назад

      boa corno

  • @diegorocha2186
    @diegorocha2186 2 года назад

    Fantastic! Much better than many content on netflix!! Amazing the way you told the story! Thanks!

  • @maxwellmondo4857
    @maxwellmondo4857 Год назад +3

    12:10 when Garry puts all of his pawns on dark squares, it’s called “spatial dominance,” when I do it, it’s called “light square weakness” or “mate in two” (whatever that means)

  • @Mdude123456789
    @Mdude123456789 3 года назад +352

    "Every Time I Lose Against This Treadmill It Speeds Up" sounds like a video I'd watch

  • @sudarsankunde4862
    @sudarsankunde4862 3 года назад +594

    Levy uploads quicker than how quickly I blunder my queen.

    • @darkagedrifter
      @darkagedrifter 3 года назад +23

      As a guy that blundered his queen early on in a Scandinavian Defense against the 700 bot because I didn't feel like using my brain on Nelson or whoever the 1500 bot is, I felt this much more than I should.

    • @luayabuhani2004
      @luayabuhani2004 3 года назад

      We guess your comment deserves to be pin ..pin of shame chain

    • @sadmanpranto9026
      @sadmanpranto9026 3 года назад +1

      I am a 300 player, i sacrifice queen to take a pawn...

    • @InTrancedState
      @InTrancedState 3 года назад

      Youre gay

    • @raphaelpalmeira4472
      @raphaelpalmeira4472 3 года назад +2

      and even more quickly than how I finish on my queen 😏

  • @shutton
    @shutton 2 года назад

    Hey! I'm watching in September 2021. loving the leela and stockfish content, really hoping you make more of that. and you are awesome too, dont stop being awesome gotham.

  • @gastonsosa5261
    @gastonsosa5261 8 месяцев назад +4

    from 2023, still waiting for that video

  • @Sponetics
    @Sponetics 3 года назад +740

    Levy we love you please dont die of sleep deprivation

  • @idnbbeatbox
    @idnbbeatbox 3 года назад +303

    “I drew a treadmill” - Levi

  • @Noodlezz95
    @Noodlezz95 Год назад

    hey levy I went back to this video bc I wanted to see the analysis for these games again, and I must say, I kinda miss this kind of videos. I also like what you do right now though, I don't want you to change, but you know, it's nice to see how much channel can change in just a year

  • @carvingtheway
    @carvingtheway Год назад

    Much appreciated bro... Ur vids r very informative and awesomely fun to watch.... 💯🥂

  • @moustafa_1994
    @moustafa_1994 3 года назад +159

    "But nowadays a computer like deep blue can get defeated by a refrigerator" lololololol

    • @noobiamyes4853
      @noobiamyes4853 3 года назад +4

      Its true modern hand held calculators have more computing power then a room full of computers like 60yrs ago

    • @killerbug05
      @killerbug05 3 года назад +8

      @@noobiamyes4853 the 1990s weren't 60 years ago, I hope you know that

    • @noobiamyes4853
      @noobiamyes4853 3 года назад +7

      @@killerbug05 computers were invented in ww2

    • @killerbug05
      @killerbug05 3 года назад +4

      @@noobiamyes4853 fuck you on about bro?

    • @noobiamyes4853
      @noobiamyes4853 3 года назад +9

      @@vinaylalwani im not talking about strictly chess like 60 yrs ago they had rooms stuffed with computers has less proccesing power then a calculator

  • @gaspytheghost
    @gaspytheghost 3 года назад +295

    30:35 "I drew a treadmill"
    Just think about that for a moment

    • @rodrigornovaes
      @rodrigornovaes 3 года назад +3

      It depresses me and makes me want to quit chess, I mean, why bother?

    • @mohammadfletcher5312
      @mohammadfletcher5312 3 года назад

      @@rodrigornovaes you should play chess only because you want to

    • @desmonides
      @desmonides 3 года назад +1

      Gotta get dem laps in

  • @isabellam1936
    @isabellam1936 Год назад +8

    I would love to see a remake of this video putting on the evaluation bar. It would be fascinating to see what Stockfish thinks about all these old computer engine moves and Garry’s moves.

  • @constantinedelvecchio7110
    @constantinedelvecchio7110 25 дней назад +2

    Watching in 2024 :)
    Loved it

  • @filipporosatti6243
    @filipporosatti6243 3 года назад +776

    *Mandatory comment to thank Levy for his insane upload schedule*

    • @bryansanchez8158
      @bryansanchez8158 3 года назад +12

      Mandator reply saying something stupid
      Cripple glasses man

    • @guccigang6984
      @guccigang6984 3 года назад +2

      Thank you Levy‼️‼️

    • @lugh6982
      @lugh6982 3 года назад +3

      HEYYY, HE DID YOUR SUGGESTIONNN

    • @jtplays193
      @jtplays193 3 года назад

      *insert mandatory comment here*

  • @mrgambit5504
    @mrgambit5504 3 года назад +223

    2021: Garry Kasparov vs. Dewa Kipas

    • @truthseeker1934
      @truthseeker1934 3 года назад +11

      2022: AlphaGo Chess Edition vs Dewa Kipas

    • @mingozzz1
      @mingozzz1 3 года назад +1

      Hahahaha this is golden

    • @mingozzz1
      @mingozzz1 3 года назад +9

      For 7000 dollars

    • @hokray
      @hokray 3 года назад +1

      He was probably using the 🐟

  • @Chippoka
    @Chippoka 2 года назад

    I enjoyed your narration/commentary on this 😃

  • @bishalguitar9717
    @bishalguitar9717 4 месяца назад

    Sammy bro u did a great commentary.....i learn many more from ur channel ....thanks sammy brother.....

  • @vjbragae
    @vjbragae 3 года назад +285

    Next video: The Day I Play Against a Treadmill

  • @oblivion.4274
    @oblivion.4274 3 года назад +557

    Deep blue: You can't beat me
    Me: I know, but he can
    *Garry Kasparov*

    • @remarkgulane3851
      @remarkgulane3851 2 года назад +9

      Magnus can😂

    • @fheenicks
      @fheenicks 2 года назад

      @@remarkgulane3851 big can

    • @SneakyDrizzle
      @SneakyDrizzle 2 года назад +8

      @Simone Miglioli He won the first time but lost the second time, that calls for a third time.

    • @saripdol1943
      @saripdol1943 2 года назад +3

      Kasparov lose the rematch though ..such a shame coz the much anticipated 3rd rematch never took place and it affected Kasparov quite a bit i think so lol

    • @coomerlad3293
      @coomerlad3293 2 года назад +8

      I know but he can: treadmill

  • @longshotny
    @longshotny 2 года назад +1

    Very well done and entertaining 🔥 salute ‼️

  • @chubbeebunnee1708
    @chubbeebunnee1708 2 месяца назад +10

    hey i'm watching in 2024

  • @pinicius
    @pinicius 3 года назад +640

    When I heard "brute force" I realised that Kasparov was a genius. He went for the long game because there is too much to compute when you are in the endgame. That's why he only "improve his position". To get a better (and harder) position for the computer analyse. It was not a battle of chess. It was a computation stress test with chess envolved.
    Modern chess engines are so hard to beat because the computer no longer computes everything like back then. It does not have to. It learns moves, positions and strategies like we do, just faster and in bigger volume.
    Great video.

    • @fos1451
      @fos1451 2 года назад +23

      Stockfish still use brute force, I don’t know what you’re talking about

    • @somebodyuknow2507
      @somebodyuknow2507 2 года назад +120

      @@fos1451 Stockfish uses a much smarter brute force - it doesn’t check literally every possible line, it’s much better at saving computational power by only checking the best lines (this is called alpha beta pruning). This comes with the consequence that it still can’t solve some niche positions where a sacrifice has really long term benefits

    • @shmockette7158
      @shmockette7158 2 года назад +11

      @@somebodyuknow2507 Didnt deep blue do this too? It's mostly just a difference of computing power.

    • @gayusschwulius8490
      @gayusschwulius8490 2 года назад +9

      @@somebodyuknow2507 Move pruning has been in use since the late 70s. Algorithms have gotten better, yes, but the essential approach is still exactly the same. The only thing not "brute force" about modern stockfish (since 2020) is it's evaluation function (so the function that determines the final value of a position at the end of a tree branch). It uses machine learning, but that's it.

    • @DoubleCDOT
      @DoubleCDOT Год назад

      Me

  • @nks2405
    @nks2405 3 года назад +246

    “It’s ugly but it does the job”
    -Levy Rozman 2021

  • @mononokehte
    @mononokehte 9 месяцев назад

    excellent coverage

  • @abhi739
    @abhi739 2 года назад

    beautiful commentary on chess, gothams knowledge of tactics is astounding

  • @saksxmusic
    @saksxmusic 3 года назад +272

    the last time i was this early Levy wasn't playing competitively

    • @gordonramsdale
      @gordonramsdale 3 года назад +4

      He still isn't I mean it isn't a preference where the classification is instant, he is going to be competing but not yet so technically he isnt competing

    • @nado7592
      @nado7592 3 года назад +4

      @@gordonramsdale stfu

    • @nado7592
      @nado7592 3 года назад

      @Nate Bekin I’m not talking about what he said, I’m just getting annoyed at his broken English, if you’re gonna troll somebody at least learn how to speak.

    • @theblinkingbrownie4654
      @theblinkingbrownie4654 3 года назад +7

      @@nado7592 If you got annoyed by their broken English you got trolled lmao, they did their job perfectly

    • @nado7592
      @nado7592 3 года назад

      @@theblinkingbrownie4654 you do realise that he is 100% being serious, but hes just an idiot and bad at english?

  • @KKSportsKKS
    @KKSportsKKS 3 года назад +218

    When I went to bed. Levy uploaded. I just woke up. Levy uploaded again. Legend.

  • @izainonline
    @izainonline 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for making my desired video what I was looking❤

  • @Philiopantheon82
    @Philiopantheon82 Год назад

    Great commentary sir!! Thanks

  • @pschneider1968
    @pschneider1968 3 года назад +55

    "I drew a treadmill"
    Wait until you get beaten up by your coffee maker...

  • @Low_Marine
    @Low_Marine 3 года назад +69

    yo yo yo wait up is that man wearing a " Deep Blue " shirt ? Levi u beauty

  • @noahjorgensen586
    @noahjorgensen586 2 года назад +1

    Love these historical events in chess. Great storytelling!

  • @michaelsmith6094
    @michaelsmith6094 Год назад

    April 2023 now. I'm going to look for more of your videos about computer chess. Love your explanations and insights!

  • @kevinhansen9258
    @kevinhansen9258 3 года назад +81

    Absolutely love how Levy interacts with his viewers literally saw a comment on his last vid wanting him to do a vid on gary vs deep blue and thought that would be cool and now here it is🙂

    • @davidphalen9239
      @davidphalen9239 3 года назад +4

      So sick I saw that comment too

    • @HondaMan0
      @HondaMan0 3 года назад +2

      It was the Garry Kasparov vs kid Magnus Carlsen

    • @DanielPetri
      @DanielPetri 3 года назад +1

      Yes I was about to thank Levy, it's the second time he takes my suggestion! :) Funny you noticed haha!

    • @ianmoore5502
      @ianmoore5502 3 года назад

      @@davidphalen9239 yesss gang gang

    • @scoutbane1651
      @scoutbane1651 3 года назад

      Yep same, really glad to see this video

  • @lex4302
    @lex4302 3 года назад +213

    Levy, please do more on these types of games vs engines. They're fascinating! Particularly the overall history and timeline where, after 2006, they effectively stopped scheduling matches because the computers were too strong

    • @mujtabaalam5907
      @mujtabaalam5907 Год назад +11

      What's the last serious official human vs computer game?

    • @abyssmage6979
      @abyssmage6979 Год назад +54

      @@mujtabaalam5907 hans niemann vs magnus carlsen

    • @mujtabaalam5907
      @mujtabaalam5907 Год назад +3

      @@abyssmage6979 Normally that joke would be funny, but Chess youtubers have accelerated things and "Hans Niemann cheated against Magnus" jokes are already unfunny

    • @imperatormaximus8952
      @imperatormaximus8952 Год назад +6

      @@mujtabaalam5907 I know I'm late, but I think Kramnik vs Deep Fritz 2006 might be it.

  • @iggles8
    @iggles8 Год назад +10

    "A treadmill. I drew a treadmill." hahahahaha

  • @henrylee4856
    @henrylee4856 2 года назад

    Excellent commentary as always.

  • @alexheffron3963
    @alexheffron3963 3 года назад +82

    The fact that Levy drops these UFC fighters names as analogies makes him my favorite chess RUclipsr

  • @notapplicable7292
    @notapplicable7292 3 года назад +240

    "I drew a treadmill" that line is an absolute classic

  • @nicolaspardo1342
    @nicolaspardo1342 2 года назад

    AMAZING VIDEO LOVED IT

  • @arvin4856
    @arvin4856 Год назад +3

    “you cannot take you’re own pieces” chatgpt thinks otherwise

  • @matteoprojetto1587
    @matteoprojetto1587 3 года назад +152

    Day 43 of translating the title in Italian: "Garry Kasparov contro Deep Blue: la battaglia per l'umanità".

    • @IlSigPin
      @IlSigPin 3 года назад +5

      Mi fai morire, sei su ogni video ahah

    • @tronquitoanimations2882
      @tronquitoanimations2882 3 года назад +15

      @@IlSigPin day 3 of translating the title in spanish in comments about translating the title "Garry Kasparov contra Deep Blue: la batalla de ajedrez por la Humanidad
      "

    • @maxencepalin-riot1161
      @maxencepalin-riot1161 3 года назад +7

      "Garry Kasparov contre Deep Blue: la bataille pour l'humanité"

    • @Pedro-op6zj
      @Pedro-op6zj 3 года назад +1

      @@tronquitoanimations2882 day 1 of translating the title in portuguese in comments about translating the title to spanish in comments about translating the title to italian. "Garry Kasparov contra Deep Blue: a batalha de xadrez pela humanidade".

    • @goldeer7129
      @goldeer7129 3 года назад

      @@Pedro-op6zj day 1 of translating the title in french in comments about translating the title to portuguese in comments about translating the title to spanish in comments about translating the title in italian. "Garry Kasparov contre Deep Blue: La bataille d'échec pour l'humanité"

  • @drunkenhobo8020
    @drunkenhobo8020 3 года назад +40

    If anyone hasn't watched the Fredrik Knudsen video on the background to these games then set aside a spare 2 hours to watch the most wild chess tale you could imagine.

    • @fort809
      @fort809 3 года назад +5

      The story about Kasparov’s mother yelling at him from the audience when he accused the computer of cheating is amazing

  • @youknowit-Arpit
    @youknowit-Arpit 5 месяцев назад

    This is one of those very matches i knew about prior to starting chess.Its quite interesting as well as distressing to see humans as capable of intelligence as 'Garry , the then World Champion' to lose to a mere machine imparted with humanity's data & thinking in general.This match is a good reference to this date covering the idea of the eternity,i.e., 'A.I.' as of its relevance in current time.

  • @talkwordy3065
    @talkwordy3065 2 года назад

    Watching in December, 2021! I enjoyed this.

  • @sumwon6973
    @sumwon6973 3 года назад +50

    This really just shows how amazing Gary Kasparov that he almost beat a computer of this caliber, and probably would have won the match if he understood this computer‘s play better

    • @s.s7337
      @s.s7337 Год назад

      He did win the second game

  • @Chepperz
    @Chepperz 3 года назад +43

    "When you or I push 3 pawns on both sides, we look stupid when Garry does it.." omg 😂😂😂

  • @frontup-tbp5297
    @frontup-tbp5297 Год назад

    Congrats on 2M sub!

  • @obmarte3803
    @obmarte3803 Год назад +11

    So what I learned from this... treadmills are terrifying 😳

  • @Vtari
    @Vtari 3 года назад +97

    Funny how back then you could accuse an enigne for cheating by a human brain

  • @richardforshaw7883
    @richardforshaw7883 3 года назад +75

    Love the content Levy. I can recommend reading Kasparov's book "Deep Thinking" which explores the two Deep Blue matches (and the complete change in attitudes for the rematch) as well as a general history of chess computers and thoughts on intelligent machines. Very interesting. Apparently the day after game 2 in 1997, Garry's team discovered that he didn't need to resign....

  • @semeretadese6856
    @semeretadese6856 2 года назад

    Thanks 👍 very much for your amazing explanation.

  • @vlts1000
    @vlts1000 Месяц назад

    Wow what a incredible video...so in depth. Watched the movie...

    • @IWannatalkpodcast
      @IWannatalkpodcast Месяц назад

      In depth?? It was the worst analysis I've ever seen of this match

  • @kanmeo
    @kanmeo 3 года назад +28

    For the uninitiated (a very simplified explanation):
    The principle by which the deep blue "AI" was built was mostly a combination of brute force calculation and pruning. Brute force means that you test every possible combination to a certain depth of moves and determine which move combination guarantees the best outcome. Pruning you could describe as more intelligent brute force, where you don't evaluate moves that you know beforehand are going to be bad.
    What makes the alpha zero AI at the same time both less computationally intensive and so much better is that it does not hard force any solution like deep blue does, instead it is built using a so called "neural net" which most modern AI is based upon. The engine basically has a lot of parameters built in, and then it plays against itself and other AI's and adjusts each parameter each match it plays, so it basically learns pretty much like a human would without access to books or the internet, through trial and error

    • @MorbiusBlueBalls
      @MorbiusBlueBalls Год назад +1

      thank you for this info kind stranger

    • @kowikowi8718
      @kowikowi8718 11 месяцев назад

      So maybe getting your room pawns Out First ist the best move cause of peuning Alpha Zero didnt even considers IT?! Wow

  • @AstraIVagabond
    @AstraIVagabond 3 года назад +38

    The look of anxiety on Levy's face when he tells the treadmill story. Are we in an early stage sci-fi dystopia?

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger 3 года назад +5

      Sometimes I consider it. All it takes is some faulty programming or a virus, and all the sudden, a bunch of our military gear starts targeting anything with a heat signature. Like... Us.

    • @RoyalFusilier
      @RoyalFusilier Год назад

      I have talked with friends and we basically agree that we're in Early Cyberpunk already. We don't have the coolest aesthetic nailed down, but all essential elements are in place.

  • @MrMrMadMax92
    @MrMrMadMax92 2 года назад

    I got here 4 month after you posted this video. And i learned a lot

  • @brysonstevens1431
    @brysonstevens1431 2 года назад +1

    These long term drag out games are so beautiful to watch.

  • @Sponetics
    @Sponetics 3 года назад +49

    Last time I was this early, I didn't know how to play chess.

  • @Leo_Djax
    @Leo_Djax 3 года назад +140

    Fun fact: when the king is check-mated
    he cannot move at all

    • @SirVirtual
      @SirVirtual 3 года назад +5

      Damn thanks for that fun fact

    • @polytopiahu1015
      @polytopiahu1015 3 года назад +18

      Technically the second part of that isn't completely true since it is possible for the king to have no moves without it being mate

    • @tarunsrivastava2074
      @tarunsrivastava2074 3 года назад

      Wow thanks

    • @SirVirtual
      @SirVirtual 3 года назад +5

      @@polytopiahu1015 yep, that’s a stalemate

    • @-Shoresy
      @-Shoresy 3 года назад +7

      Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?

  • @Alsadius
    @Alsadius Год назад +1

    That last game in 1996, and Kasparov suffocating the enemy play, reminds me a lot of your discussion of how AlphaZero plays. Interesting to see these themes echo.

  • @tomgrimard8075
    @tomgrimard8075 Год назад

    I really like your videos, I'v been watching them since 1990

  • @Pjoes1
    @Pjoes1 3 года назад +111

    Plot twist: the software engineer was the one thinking of the moves and he was merely modifying the board on the pc to make it look like Deep Blue accomplished anything

  • @roen04
    @roen04 3 года назад +8

    Thank you for analyzing these games, Levi. I was only a young lad,10 yrs old when they played. I didn't have easy access to view it then, and since then it has slipped my mind to actually look the matches up and break the matches down move-for-move. I appreciate your insight and work for Gotham!

  • @Sahilow
    @Sahilow 4 месяца назад +2

    I’m watching in 2024 and happy Easter to you old Gotham😊

  • @simonjohn70
    @simonjohn70 25 дней назад

    this video was well done given its speed and going over the games
    this gets a automatic subscription,
    i only found out bout this guy becuase of his recent interview with vishy
    also i like how he asked vishy bout deep blue
    believe or not i like deep blue even tho its not as strong as any other new chess program
    id like a replica of deep blue to play magnus carlsen and make chess big again

  • @SneeeSnarrr
    @SneeeSnarrr 3 года назад +5

    Yo thank you for taking the time to make the segments on the timeline for the youtube videos!

  • @Lucasschepers
    @Lucasschepers 3 года назад +85

    It's insane that when Levy these days tries to beat computers, he plays a hippo type set up like in 15:11, and Kasparov was already doing that in 1997.

    • @Obi-WanKannabis
      @Obi-WanKannabis 2 года назад +21

      For different reasons. Levy uses an hippo because it is what delays the game the most, forcing the cheater to use his time up and lose before the engine does anything. Kasparov used the hippo because he wanted a long game as he saw that is the weakness of the engine.
      Levy would never win using an hippo against an engine these days with classical time control, as the engine would eventually break his defense open, it only works in rapid or blitz games. Then again the comparison isn't fair because today's engines are much better than deep blue was in 1996/1997

    • @Jartran72
      @Jartran72 2 года назад

      @@Obi-WanKannabis In Blitz maybe. Rapid? No way.

  • @PitcanaryRamFan
    @PitcanaryRamFan Год назад

    Hey I'm watching in July 2022...love your content Levy.

  • @user-ki7ud2mk8h
    @user-ki7ud2mk8h Год назад +2

    A treadmill can beat me at chess, but I can outrun a chess program.