As one of the people whos Brother is in the middle of this war i am asking myself where is the South African formal statement on this matter. They dont have enough equipment there we need Leadership in this country. Where is the South African President this country needs your Leadership.
Stop blaming Government, you voted them for decades so it’s your fault! South Africans lost no wars pre 94’ not even to the British! We downed arms to Britain because they killed women and children in concentration camps after the huge beating the took!!! This is just another case of DEI and racist Africans demanding jobs that they have no understanding of. Nobody in South Africa fears the police or army, we have no respect or do not care as we all know what the civil service was, what it is today and who was and is now. Like everything else, everything Africans touch just falls apart, excuses follow and gaslighting whites begin 😂
SANDF has been having budget cuts for more than a decade now.. Our military doesn't have an air force anymore, we are foot solders now.. We are weak it's so scary
Is not her fault she just took office. The problem has been there since 1994. The problem with us is that we are reactionaries. We don't plan ahead, we relax until there is a problem, then we start pointing fingers at one another.
For your information M23 gets those weapons from the corrupt less trained Congolese army. The Congolese army is the main supplier of arms to M23. Check your sources everything is written and documented. Stop creating false stories!!!
I'm sure M23 gets their green RDF gumboots and Rwandan gear such as helmets etc from the DRC. RDF is literally on video with the M23, there is no denying it
To think how tiny Rwanda is as a country????? That DRC and SA would kowtow to this minion called Rwanda. The excuse is under equipped Sandf. Revamp the entire Sandf pump billions in it for the next 5 or so years. This is bad and has been for the longest of years.
Yes. It was a military fighting force before 1994. Now it’s a shambolic corruption club where friends do favours for each other to steal money and equipment.
Sandf are speaking useless words here .. excuses,.sandf don't have ideology and propaganda that back them .. m23 have ideology and propaganda that backs them.. reason to fight... Rdf build their military capabilities over 30 years .sandf didn't have.... Sandf sending soldiers there, you are doing nothing.. you were fighting someone who have been fighting over 20 years ..
South Africa introduced women in their infantry, Union for soldiers. All that weakened the military, plus privatisation of military industrial complex and underfunding
But we gave rdf/m23 a hiding in 2013 and where was this ideology. Our issue this time around is lack of investment in our army of which we would correct, we always bounce back.
@@GrantWilkinson-l9i There is a backstory as to why we don't have any airlift capability. The Airbus Joint EuroLifter programme was cancelled after a campaign which came about in the aftermath of the controversial arms deal. You can thank Terry Crawford-Brown and Patricia de Lille for emasculating the SANDF and rendering the force practically useless.
@@nasafricatv3510 Easier said than done. The reason we are there is due to our obligations to the UN and AU. Unfortunately we have abdicated responsibility by involving ourselves with BRICS intrigues, on the off-chance that wedding ourselves to every tinpot dictatorship out there will all pan out, we in deep economic kaka as a result. Our failure in DRC is a direct result.
The song of under funded SANDF has been sang everytime our ppl get killed in Congo, so if that's the case, why r they still there, why? Also if we don't have air strength, what r our soldiers going other? To just go and die? Ramapbosa is useless
I fully supported the man. The SANDF military strategists didn't consider unexpected situations. I don't blame SANDF Congo is a vast county. I wish to feel pain with our brothers and sisters. The enemy may win the battle, but will never win the war.
by then rwanda was freshly comming from 1994 genocide , did not have air to surface missile capability, did not have their troops equiped with night vision tools each soldier, did not have GPS and lazer guaded bombs and missiles, did not have electronic jaming system to sonfuse and mislead aircrafts !!! i mean what are you taliking abaout dear brother !!!
He said that Rwanda is interested with minimals in DRC so what are interests of all other countries mostly those so called supper countries. Africans we hesitate to fight our enemies and we fight ourselves
But why do international communities forget or ignore Tutsia refugees who have been in camps for more than 3 decades in Uganda, Rwanda, and Kenya and even in most western countries.Just because they are the minority it doesn't mean they should be discriminated.Since 1994 Congolese Tutsis were been mascared by FARDC, FDLR, Nyatura, mai mai, Codeco, and other militias who were against the Tutsis and DRC government failed to protect their own citizens. Now, they have to stand up to fight for their survival. This is all caused by the governments failure to protect their people and they always try to blame it on the minority just because they don't have the right media to show the world what is being done to them.We can't be this ignorant this are Congolese citizens fighting for their rights not Rwanda.This is hypocrisy of the highest level every group in a war must have allies the same way the Congo government have SADC and many other military groups from other different countries helping them to fighting their own citizens instead of trying to come up with a solution, the M23 is allowed to have support from people who understand their problems to. Therefore, let’s not be hypocrites and try to think logically.
Please try to send your soldiers in different African countries to train hard like in Tanzania Zimbabwe even in Malawi where 3 soldiers killed they are better secondary please African leaders try to think about new weapons not this old without technology
The killing of peacekeepers in Goma was carried out by the FARDC-FDLR-Burundi Armed Group-Wazalendo coalition. This mirrors what the FDLR (formerly FAR) did in Rwanda during the 1994 genocide against the Tutsi, when they killed 12 Belgian UN Peacekeepers (MINUAR). They are experts at this. Thérèse Kayikwamba Wagner is strategically shifting responsibility to the RDF and M23 to deflect attention from the killings of UN peacekeepers in Goma by the FARDC-FDLR (former FAR)-Burundian Army-Wazalendo coalition.
MPs make 21k $per month in a country classified among the poorest country. Many setback of the army can be also attributed to high corruption in army, less moral of the soldiers. Being a soldier of the DRC of the worst thing ever you can hear if you die on front, that is the end, your child will be on street.
SADC to be blamed including Generals of joint operations are useless in their minds letting soldiers to lack ammunition and airstrike , this not excuse ..long ago SA ARMY complaints about money...South Africa 🌍 must increase budget that's all.
M23 HAS A BIG NUMBER OF SOLDIERS. SADC HAS AN INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TROOPS. DRC CONGO ARMY IS TECHNICALLY NOT A MILITARY. M23 ARE DETERMINED. DRC ARMY HAVE WEAKNESS.
The real question is : What are your army doing in Congo? What is your motive to be involved in an internal conflict of the citizens of Congo? M23 are congolese fighting for their right to live in peace on their land, the SANDF even if it had everything on site, it is wrong to support a government that is marginalizing its citizens. Pack your bags and go home.
Useless ,defense minster should be held accountable.where is the air superiority? Where is the logistics? Ammo ? Sending soldiers to die for nothing and not even giving them a chance .you ANC cronies have screwed things up ,this blood is on your hands
Talk is cheap. I wish you guys knew the situation and terrain that side. According to them, those are suitable boots for that environment, furthermore type of boots has no much effect on the outcome. Some of us South Africans talk too much without facts. We should be applauding our brothers and sisters for the effort they put. Please, let us not abuse our freedom.
tell your SANDF never to engage m23 rebels while congolese forces are fleeing their own battle! this tasting your own medicine! you cant love a person more than he loves himself! m23 warned them ahead not to fire at them and didnt take heed! what else should you expect as a result! m23 dont fire peas or beads while SANDF are firing lively bullets!
SANDF was drpolyed in DRC without a clear aim, their leaders told them they are goung to fight Rwanda, but when they arrived there, found different story b'se they found themselves fighting sons of DRC who know very well the terrain and have a clear aim that only to fight for their survival.
We are tired of misleading information. M23 has meaningful reasons to fight for their denied basic rights. Other biased speeches are pointless and aren't going to bring solutions that M23 wants.
Dialogue is only way to resolve the issue… fighting will not heal the process. South Africa are fighting with a Tutsi extremist tribe… South Africa made bad calculations, they have to know they are in war with Tutsi kagame regime…Tutsi tribe in Rwandan are more than six million… if SA , sent more reinforcements to drc.. m23 have seven million Tutsi tribe that backed…drc problem, is about Tutsi abega tribe expansion…in drc , banyamulenge there is more mulengethan one million people….
@@murphyng4511 i mulenge ,I masisi, I rucuru I bwisha , those are the name of land wich conference of Berlin 1884-1885 gave to congo while it was a part of Rwanda, stop your nonsense
We must understand this situation,,M23 Get support to the Rich countries,so i don't want to go deep there. And since start from 1994 We have week Training,,and military,,
Try to get the proper news ask your soldiers in Congo as im watching this the wazalendo and fard are in control in Goma and some of wazalendo have taken gisenyi
As one of the people whos Brother is in the middle of this war i am asking myself where is the South African formal statement on this matter. They dont have enough equipment there we need Leadership in this country. Where is the South African President this country needs your Leadership.
Stop blaming Government, you voted them for decades so it’s your fault! South Africans lost no wars pre 94’ not even to the British! We downed arms to Britain because they killed women and children in concentration camps after the huge beating the took!!!
This is just another case of DEI and racist Africans demanding jobs that they have no understanding of. Nobody in South Africa fears the police or army, we have no respect or do not care as we all know what the civil service was, what it is today and who was and is now.
Like everything else, everything Africans touch just falls apart, excuses follow and gaslighting whites begin 😂
What i also thimking
My prayers for your brother and the troops, I wouldn’t want my life under the leadership of the ANC.
SANDF has been having budget cuts for more than a decade now.. Our military doesn't have an air force anymore, we are foot solders now.. We are weak it's so scary
Thanks to lamasela.
Were those shopping expeditions to Dubai really necessary? Where did our defense budget go?
The defensive minister should resign. She is completely incompetent.
Is not her fault she just took office. The problem has been there since 1994. The problem with us is that we are reactionaries. We don't plan ahead, we relax until there is a problem, then we start pointing fingers at one another.
For your information M23 gets those weapons from the corrupt less trained Congolese army. The Congolese army is the main supplier of arms to M23. Check your sources everything is written and documented. Stop creating false stories!!!
I'm sure M23 gets their green RDF gumboots and Rwandan gear such as helmets etc from the DRC. RDF is literally on video with the M23, there is no denying it
Rwanda SA will not forget you😢
To think how tiny Rwanda is as a country????? That DRC and SA would kowtow to this minion called Rwanda. The excuse is under equipped Sandf. Revamp the entire Sandf pump billions in it for the next 5 or so years. This is bad and has been for the longest of years.
😂😂😂you
Forget what?
Kagame is not a small boy
Rwanda will pay😢
Rwanda is taking up the Zama zama role in DRC
😂😂😂
War is a expensive endeavour. Both in funding and lives. RIP to the fallen.
Well Rwanda is doing it easily 😂
We are a democracy based on human rights to life whereas rwanda is a dictatorship with no respect for life.
The SANDF has been fully transformed.
Yes. It was a military fighting force before 1994. Now it’s a shambolic corruption club where friends do favours for each other to steal money and equipment.
Yes transformation at its best
No aircraft, no drone no modern artillery. South Africa come on..
Kagame invist in his country. He doesn't hide money under the matrass
We back to spears, shields and short axes, I'm afraid.
Sandf are speaking useless words here .. excuses,.sandf don't have ideology and propaganda that back them .. m23 have ideology and propaganda that backs them.. reason to fight... Rdf build their military capabilities over 30 years .sandf didn't have.... Sandf sending soldiers there, you are doing nothing.. you were fighting someone who have been fighting over 20 years ..
South Africa introduced women in their infantry, Union for soldiers. All that weakened the military, plus privatisation of military industrial complex and underfunding
But we gave rdf/m23 a hiding in 2013 and where was this ideology. Our issue this time around is lack of investment in our army of which we would correct, we always bounce back.
RIP to the fallen, your government set you up for failure, thank you Ramafailure.
South Africa needs to take Kagame before the international criminal court, for war crimes against humanity
Before taking Kagame to court, first ask yourself what SA army doing in Congo?
@@saitamadecember2806 can S A even try
@@ghealthconnections8414 Defending a SADC member from the Rwandan aggression
Will never happen, no African leader acts against another.
These are the same folks demanding more representation on the UN Security Council. African nations to need to get it together.
Our Military and government needs reforms
Yah it's true
No they can't and shouldn't
SANDF got a hiding, ended up demanding they get repatriated, but no airlift capability.
@@GrantWilkinson-l9i There is a backstory as to why we don't have any airlift capability. The Airbus Joint EuroLifter programme was cancelled after a campaign which came about in the aftermath of the controversial arms deal. You can thank Terry Crawford-Brown and Patricia de Lille for emasculating the SANDF and rendering the force practically useless.
They didn’t exactly get a hiding bru. They held their position at Sake, despite almost running out of ammunition.
Sandf have to leave drc as quick as possible. They are blinds in this conflict, otherwise things will change to the worse 😢
@@nasafricatv3510 Easier said than done. The reason we are there is due to our obligations to the UN and AU. Unfortunately we have abdicated responsibility by involving ourselves with BRICS intrigues, on the off-chance that wedding ourselves to every tinpot dictatorship out there will all pan out, we in deep economic kaka as a result. Our failure in DRC is a direct result.
Why are they only reporting what Rwanda says. Rwanda is reporting lies.
Thanks doctor for telling our brothers and sisters south African who can't understand the main problem with us the this kagame snack
The entire SADC has this kind of soldiers?? Shame on you all.
These soldiers held their position at Sake despite almost running out of ammunition.
The song of under funded SANDF has been sang everytime our ppl get killed in Congo, so if that's the case, why r they still there, why?
Also if we don't have air strength, what r our soldiers going other? To just go and die? Ramapbosa is useless
To protect Zuma mines
I fully supported the man. The SANDF military strategists didn't consider unexpected situations. I don't blame SANDF Congo is a vast county. I wish to feel pain with our brothers and sisters. The enemy may win the battle, but will never win the war.
Ask Zimbabwe who've been there when real war was fought in 1998 not this child's play.
by then rwanda was freshly comming from 1994 genocide , did not have air to surface missile capability, did not have their troops equiped with night vision tools each soldier, did not have GPS and lazer guaded bombs and missiles, did not have electronic jaming system to sonfuse and mislead aircrafts !!! i mean what are you taliking abaout dear brother !!!
He said that Rwanda is interested with minimals in DRC so what are interests of all other countries mostly those so called supper countries. Africans we hesitate to fight our enemies and we fight ourselves
Congo is being looted by fellow Africans
2litre coke and KFC BRIGADE.
Which kind of training does south Africa give their soldiers.? Alarming.. very substandard
Their training isn’t sub-standard. Their logistics are sub-standard.
Swak soldiers of South Africa n sick
They used to say "we train as we fight,we fight as we train"
Nonsense, bring them home
@@milly9148 but you were complaining in Mozambique 😅 why nyusi didn't call SADC force
But why do international communities forget or ignore Tutsia refugees who have been in camps for more than 3 decades in Uganda, Rwanda, and Kenya and even in most western countries.Just because they are the minority it doesn't mean they should be discriminated.Since 1994 Congolese Tutsis were been mascared by FARDC, FDLR, Nyatura, mai mai, Codeco, and other militias who were against the Tutsis and DRC government failed to protect their own citizens. Now, they have to stand up to fight for their survival. This is all caused by the governments failure to protect their people and they always try to blame it on the minority just because they don't have the right media to show the world what is being done to them.We can't be this ignorant this are Congolese citizens fighting for their rights not Rwanda.This is hypocrisy of the highest level every group in a war must have allies the same way the Congo government have SADC and many other military groups from other different countries helping them to fighting their own citizens instead of trying to come up with a solution, the M23 is allowed to have support from people who understand their problems to. Therefore, let’s not be hypocrites and try to think logically.
Please try to send your soldiers in different African countries to train hard like in Tanzania Zimbabwe even in Malawi where 3 soldiers killed they are better secondary please African leaders try to think about new weapons not this old without technology
Why not train in our country, what is the problem.
The killing of peacekeepers in Goma was carried out by the FARDC-FDLR-Burundi Armed Group-Wazalendo coalition. This mirrors what the FDLR (formerly FAR) did in Rwanda during the 1994 genocide against the Tutsi, when they killed 12 Belgian UN Peacekeepers (MINUAR). They are experts at this. Thérèse Kayikwamba Wagner is strategically shifting responsibility to the RDF and M23 to deflect attention from the killings of UN peacekeepers in Goma by the FARDC-FDLR (former FAR)-Burundian Army-Wazalendo coalition.
MPs make 21k $per month in a country classified among the poorest country.
Many setback of the army can be also attributed to high corruption in army, less moral of the soldiers.
Being a soldier of the DRC of the worst thing ever you can hear if you die on front, that is the end, your child will be on street.
SADC to be blamed including Generals of joint operations are useless in their minds letting soldiers to lack ammunition and airstrike , this not excuse ..long ago SA ARMY complaints about money...South Africa 🌍 must increase budget that's all.
SA army used to be the best during apartheid comparable to any on the globe what happened?
Which corporations supply the wrapons?
No DRC soldiers have been put on any boat Bukavu bound.
Get out as soon as possible
M23 HAS A BIG NUMBER OF SOLDIERS.
SADC HAS AN INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TROOPS.
DRC CONGO ARMY IS TECHNICALLY NOT A MILITARY.
M23 ARE DETERMINED.
DRC ARMY HAVE WEAKNESS.
The real question is : What are your army doing in Congo? What is your motive to be involved in an internal conflict of the citizens of Congo? M23 are congolese fighting for their right to live in peace on their land, the SANDF even if it had everything on site, it is wrong to support a government that is marginalizing its citizens. Pack your bags and go home.
Tell them bro
M23 is Rwanda's you fool, check history 😂
DEAR YOU BETTER CHECK THE STORY KAGAME IS A MANIPULATOR ; M23 = rwandA
@@OlivierKabalisa what land?
@@OlivierKabalisa tell who? everybody already aware of your creep story you not congolese go back to your rwanda
Useless ,defense minster should be held accountable.where is the air superiority?
Where is the logistics? Ammo ?
Sending soldiers to die for nothing and not even giving them a chance .you ANC cronies have screwed things up ,this blood is on your hands
This madala is speaking the truth they must just let Congo, M23 and Paul kagame handle this
Resolve the problem of Refugees
How can sibethwe ngabantu abanxibe igumboots 😭😭😭
I was asking myself the same question Tata. How the mighty SANDF has fallen due to incompetent comrades.
Hay zyadubula mnganam ezi zakhulela empini
Talk is cheap. I wish you guys knew the situation and terrain that side. According to them, those are suitable boots for that environment, furthermore type of boots has no much effect on the outcome. Some of us
South Africans talk too much without facts. We should be applauding our brothers and sisters for the effort they put. Please, let us not abuse our freedom.
Goma will not fall and the fight never start, soon our president Tshisekedi is going to communicate the nation.
ok 😂😂😂😂
Why are these two in such a rush almost overtalking eachother
I don't understand why other countries help DRC. The DRC army don't get enough salaries and they can either join the rebels anytime..
Leave RWANDA Alone, They have No Troops in DRC ,DRC are Fighting each others
tell your SANDF never to engage m23 rebels while congolese forces are fleeing their own battle! this tasting your own medicine! you cant love a person more than he loves himself! m23 warned them ahead not to fire at them and didnt take heed! what else should you expect as a result! m23 dont fire peas or beads while SANDF are firing lively bullets!
Coke and buns soldiers 😅
remember the remaining troops are surrounded in Goma right now
Trying to stop M23 using sandf is😂
Then why are they paid so much money 💰 🤑 💸 🤔
Banana SA man it be came
We used to be at the forefront of military tech 😴 RIP to the fallen.
SANDF was drpolyed in DRC without a clear aim, their leaders told them they are goung to fight Rwanda, but when they arrived there, found different story b'se they found themselves fighting sons of DRC who know very well the terrain and have a clear aim that only to fight for their survival.
This man isn't answering the questions.. ".. why did this war happen..", everything else evolves from there.
We are tired of misleading information. M23 has meaningful reasons to fight for their denied basic rights. Other biased speeches are pointless and aren't going to bring solutions that M23 wants.
rwanda agent banyamulenge banyabwisha banyamasisi bamyarutshuru hutus tutsi congolese does not existe your land is in rwanda not to congo
SA is leading the way, defend drc with all means. Drc is our only friend and we may need them in the future.
No.
Idiot
Absolute rubbish, DRC can't help us with anything. They can't even help themselves .Wake up, this Africa
Corrupt media.
Were are .... 🇨🇩
Don't forget published
Where's our .....🇿🇦....
Dialogue is only way to resolve the issue… fighting will not heal the process. South Africa are fighting with a Tutsi extremist tribe… South Africa made bad calculations, they have to know they are in war with Tutsi kagame regime…Tutsi tribe in Rwandan are more than six million… if SA , sent more reinforcements to drc.. m23 have seven million Tutsi tribe that backed…drc problem, is about Tutsi abega tribe expansion…in drc , banyamulenge there is more mulengethan one million people….
South Africa got no money ?😮
The ANC cadres have money.
100 %collect
Welele
M23 & Rwanda are African leaders.
BOT
They(sandf) are now surrounded in goma.what the following?😢😢
The situation in Goma DRC is still under the DRC Government force control today Monday 27th January 2025 at 8h30 pm, Goma time.
Fanaticism 😅
He's day dreaming 😂
Stop lie the world can see what happens 😢
banyamulenge banyabwisha banyamasisi bamyarutshuru hutus tutsi congolese does not existe your land is in rwanda not to congo
@@murphyng4511 i mulenge ,I masisi, I rucuru I bwisha , those are the name of land wich conference of Berlin 1884-1885 gave to congo while it was a part of Rwanda, stop your nonsense
Please sicela babuye kunzima asilali😢 ramaphosa do something since last year 😭😭😭
banyamulenge banyabwisha banyamasisi bamyarutshuru hutus tutsi congolese does not existe your land is in rwanda not to congo
Once again this information is faults
Gum boots 🥾???Talk about Ill equipped ???
We must understand this situation,,M23 Get support to the Rich countries,so i don't want to go deep there. And since start from 1994 We have week Training,,and military,,
Fake news fake news fake news
Take note fardc and zakendo have control of goma
Try to get the proper news ask your soldiers in Congo as im watching this the wazalendo and fard are in control in Goma and some of wazalendo have taken gisenyi
Sandf must withdraw completly