Shimano Conquest Review! Is the 842S worth $695???
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2020
- In this video we go DEEP on the $695 flagship spinning rod from Shimano & Gloomis!
Rod: Shimano Conquest 842s
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Just bought this rod and the NRX 873crr. Wouldnt have done it without these thorough videos and responses to my questions. Much appreciated!
I'm surprised you found them! Enjoy!
Man, I'm glade someone else finally brought up the durability factor. I think it also helps with tip breakage. I've beat up every rod with some sort of wrapping and thier still all good.
My favorite spinning rod of all-time!!! Got 3 of these and yes they are worth every penny!!!
I’m learning a lot about hi end gear watching this channel! Thanks
Awesome, thank you for watching!
Really enjoy your gear reviews, you do a great job. Yeah the conquest is a crazy stick. Super light and feels stronger than a similar rated nrx. I'd really like to have a spinning version, love the look and the handle/reel seat design. The durability is no joke. I have an 843c that I've been playing with for the last couple years now and you would not guess that it's been bank fished with, in and out of a kayak and an aluminum boat. Even with good care taken most rods would show some signs of being used in those situations but my conquest still looks almost new.
Thanks for watching and the kind words. Conquests take abuse really well!
I have an 844c and I’m of the opinion that it’s at the top of the heap in the “all purpose jig” category.
What I was hoping for was a lightweight, sensitive, balanced rod that I *wasn’t* afraid to swing for the fences with....that last part is key. You can easily find rods with every other metric but a lot of times, they feel awful to swing hard. I haven’t broken an nrx before but it just looks and feels like it’s screaming “brrreaakk me, that’s right...do it!” The conquest feels like it actually wants you to swing harder, just so it can prove that you’re not “man enough” to break it. That was exactly what I wanted and a year in, it’s delivered in spades. And I’ll repeat it, since it’s in the video. DONT PAY FULL PRICE. Buying a rod like this is like buying a car. Only doofuses pay full price. I know there are some guys who hate it when you give out this info but so be it...I don’t really care, myself. Bass fishing shouldn’t be some elitist fraternity where only a “select few” can access the “Illuminati level” info...that’s some bullshit, imo. I got my 844 for just over $400...and at *that* price, it’s worth it all day. I won’t say HOW, because I like my sources and want them to remain so this info isn’t a total free for all. Just know that if you’re resourceful, do your research, talk to people and you’re generally a good hang, you can end up with some killer equipment at prices that most guys don’t think is possible.
Love that you used the Tatula LT with this rod...I do too. I have swapped most of my stradic's & Vanford's to the Tatula LT. Well done man!
Tatula LTs are fantastic! I have a lot of them
Out of curiosity, how much did you pay for it new so I can be prepared to negotiate if I need?
I have a Conquest 843c & and Xtasy 723c & 755c, the tips on the Xtasys are much softer than the Conquest. Xtasy looks better, but I like being able to put two fingers on the exposed blank under the reel seat on the Conquest as apposed to just one with the Xtasy. I also like how the Cork on the Conquest is tapered a little and it seems to have less filler than even the Xtasy. I like the look of the aluminium locking nut cover on the Xtasy better than the Conquest. But, the Conquest is 3.8 oz and the Xtasy is 4.6 oz, and the Conquest is a little more sensitive and powerful. I'm now using the Xtasy as a Finesse rod and the Conquest as a Jig and T-Rig rod.
A rod twist usually comes from not building on the spline. There is one point on the rod where has a little extra graphite when rolling the blank. If you build the rod correctly it should not twist
Been waiting on this one. Great review! I have one and been waiting to hear your thoughts on it. I’m looking to get a drop shot rod for 3/16 or less and would like to see a review on the Expride 7ft lite+ that you used for hair jigs and your thoughts if it’s good for dropshoting.
I've been using it just for hair but I'll switch it to Dropshot soon and try it.
Awesome Video!! Thanks for doing one on the Conquest. Have you heard any pros and cons on the St Croix Legend Elite series? That’s a $400 rod but not Croix’s high end, however it does have the Torzite guides on it.
I did a Legend X review which is the exact same rod as the Elite just with a split grip. Check my video history.
Great review. I love this rod and the baitcasters. But I also luv my NRXs and my steedz rods equally. Lol
Awesome review! Do you ever go further north and fish Pelican Lake in St Louis County?
Ahhhhh, back to reality. From 13 Fishing to the Conquest. That's more like it. Always find your rods reviews to be objective and honest, no fanboy bias. Well done. Can't wait to hear about the new Megabass rod. Any experience the Daiwa Rebellion on or the regular Tatula??
Spoiler.. the new P5 is freaking amazing. I've handled the Rebellions in the store and they were light but they didn't blow me away. Its a nice package tho for 200 + 20% off. But it was overall kinda basic. Not sure id go for them over a Tatula honestly. Allegedly the Rebellion cranking/glass rods are gems though. Lotta people snapping those up.
@@PunchFishing are you a fan of the P5 grip? I know you like to place your hand above the reel stem, and there doesn't look to have enough foregrip for you? On the Tatula, do you think there is a meaningful difference between the standard Tat and the Tat Elite? I like the cork on the standard Tat versus the foam grip on the Elite. Look forward to your review on the Megabass drop shot. Want to hear if you have found your drop shot rod or if you are still looking.
While handling all rods with these carbon wrappings and comparing the rods that don't have it. I believe the biggest telling benefit is the power. They can make thinner/lighter blanks while maintaining power. The 902 Conquest is a good example, it has a very soft tip like what you'll find on a ML rod, but has a medium backbone.
I always go back to the saying when it comes to fishing rods, "You can have cheap, light, and strong. Pick two."
I used to hate spinning rods until I just got the 6'11" Adrena spinning rod, and I fully understand when you say that rod makes you happy.
I've always preferred spinning over casting, but I do truly LOVE the 6'11" MH Adrena. That is a great shaky head rod!
I’ve really enjoyed my 6’7” ML Adrena Spinning. I’ll have to get my hands on the 6’11”
@@trevorsmart844 I love my 6'7 ML drop shot Adrena spinning rod also. I put a Shimano Stradic CI4 1000 for light weight fishing for panfish. It's pretty awesome.
I have to say after using this rod for quite sometime and I paired it with a Stella I absolutely love it but I love my st. Croix legend x more. I don’t think the price point of 700 is worth it but the quality is amazing. This is the kind of rod you buy when money doesn’t really matter and you just want to hold onto a 1400 dollar wand. Makes slow days of fishing seem better lol
i absolutely love my legend x and legened elite .. so after watching this video idk .. torzite guides on the elite package for 420 ish ,, sounds damn good to me .
You hit the nail on the head. It's for people like you.
Nice Review. I never liked the spinning reel seat on the NRX, it doesn't feel right in my hand. The Conquest handle looks more comfortable, but for $700 ? OUCH! I'd rather keep my old Shimano Crucial and Cumara rods. 😁
Yes, the price point is a bit ridiculous
Good video. I just recently got an NRX 803s but havent fished it yet. I plan on getting the Shimano Vanford when the model I want is available. Question, what line do you like to use on your spinning reels? Thanks!
I like 10lb braid, either Daiwa J-Braid Grand or SuperSlick V2. Both are really good.
I'm looking forward to my 782S showing up thos week. Got an NRX 852s. Can't believe how much lighter it's gonna be than my NRX
I just picked up this same rod. Been waiting for your review on it. Paired it with my Excense 3000. I really like it, but I think I like my 7’ M Expride w/2500 Certate just as much....
Yes this rod isn't a HUGE jump up from the Expride. The grips way better but it's not $400 better.
If that’s the case I can save myself the money and purchase a couple Expride for the price of 1 Conquest.
"This rod makes me HAPPY" lol
Which 2020 Destroyers do you have coming? I laid hands on the F5st-65XS today and was super impressed.
Landsat, Tequila Baccarat and Xbites.
I’m looking to buy a poison adreana 7’3
Med heavy for 3/8 jigs do you have any info about it
Hi Brian, if you had to choose between the NRX+ 852 and this Conquest 842, and you were going to use it primarily for wacky rigs and secondarily for drop shot and ned rigs, which one would you choose?
Great Video!! I was wondering if you have any experience with casting conquest?
Not yet!
How many conquest rods do you have and are you planning on buying more. Please give updates on this rod. Thank you
Soooo where exactly do you get the 20-30% off of these rods? None of my local shops carry these so walking into one and asking for a discount isn't an option. I was able to buy one used for $500 but if I can pay the same for a new one I'm definitely interested! Do you know if Shimano also offers discounts on their reels?
P.S. Nice shoe game too!
Email tackle shops directly. Don't be an ass and immediately low ball them, just be honest and friendly, say the Conquests/NRX/GLX/Whatevers are a little too pricey for you but you're edging to try one out, politely ask if you can buy one for 20% off. A lot of the times they'll do it, however this is the worst time to buy a rod. Shimano / Loomis is so backed up in producing rods they cannot meet the demand or even the warranty replacements people are requesting. You will not be getting 25-30% off like you used to. After this is all resolved (~6 months probably) ask tackle shops, build relationships with the staff and owners, and you'll get high end gear for well under MSRP.
American Legacy is a good starting tackle shop. Highly recommended, everyone knows about this one. There are several others, hell one tackle shop has a RUclips video that's to the right of this video as I type this, The Hook Up Tackle. There's two. Tackle Warehouse is not one of them, fyi. Neither is Bass Pro Shops lol. HOWEVER, during Tackle Warehouse's black friday sale, Shimano and Loomis are listed as NOT qualifying for the 20% off site wide deal. THIS IS INCORRECT. You WILL get the 20% off AFTER you pay. Due to MAP pricing, they can't advertise them being on sale, hence why they "exclude" them. Megabass too.
Any thoughts on the 842C?
So after both review on nrx 872 and the conquest 842. Which one would you rather fish with? Debating on picking anther 872 or conquest 842
If you fish deep & offshore, the 872s for sure.
I wish Megabass would put better cork into their rods like g loomis. Sucks to have small filler amount on a brand new Orichi Whipsnake fall out along the cork to plastic on a the grip (bad spot to have filler in the first place) even sealed with U40.
Anyways, Good review on the rod. It’s to know about some of the higher end rods because of the limited amount of info on RUclips about them.
I wish I had a local shop that could give me discounts on G Loomis Rods.
I'm happy to report the new P5 Destroyera appear to have MUCH nicer cork.
Some of the P5 casting models even have a full carbon grip.
Those look amazing. The Madbull seems to be a favorite in the P5's.
FINALY had time to watch full video . I totally get being a rod snob . I’m that way also with rods & reels .. but I do have a cut off point .. just refuse to go $700 .. $500 is my max and that was for my Dobyns Xtasy . I totally get that this rod was made for me feeling .. I’ve two like that .. the shimano poison adrena & Dobyns champion extream ( jig rod ) I swear they were made for just “me” 😉... enjoy your conquest- I get it - I do .. i just refuse to pay $700 for a bass rod
You can get Conquests for sub $500
True ... but they gotta be sooooooooo clean ... you know what I’m saying 😉
Right now I’m debating on an NRX spinning - or wait for the new megabass coming out . ( bait cast )
I added a Xbites and Tequilla Baccarat to the rod locker.
In your opinion what rod is better g-loomis conquest are the Daiwa steez s AGS. 7’6” med/light/med I have the reel Daiwa luvias Airity LT 3000 which rod would be better on that reel bass fishing Ned rigs
I've not used the steez 7'6 so I can't really give a recommendation
How does the conquest compare in sensitivity to nrx?
On par at least. I'll say my 872s is more sensitive than the Conquest when fishing deep and offshore. Not much but it's a my personal opinion.
Is this a light enough power to throw a drop shot? I understand it wont be ideal but im looking for all purpose spinning rod that could throw drop shot and weightless senko.
Sure if you use 1/4oz or above
@@PunchFishing ty
Great vid. I’m not looking for a conquest. My wife would devorce me Lol but I am looking for a 7’ M Expride spinning rod. With the COVID crap going on everyone is out of stock. Do you know where a fella could find one by chance?
Popular rods are extremely hard to find right now. Most shops won't get resupplied with Shimano & Gloomis until August I'm hearing.
I been using the Expride 7 ft med for 2 years , its a nice rod for the money. I use for neko rig, shakey, small texas. Its sensitive but not super. It's good for the money but i wish it were a little more. I fish GLX's , Megabass and Kistler on casting. So if you can't find one its not end all beat all, there are other rods that I am sure are good for the price thats in its ballpark.
Contact Blaine Shelton of Sheltons Clothing in Alabama. I’ve had him ship me several exprides. Seems to always have stuff in stock. Just got a 7’3 XH from him last week.
You should try the Daiwa Steez AGS rods. They are very sensitive and light.
So many rods so little time! Any particular models you like?
I have the Daiwa Steez SVF AGS Spinning Rod 7'6 Med Lt paired with a Shimano Stella 3000. I just came back from a beach fishing trip and used it on sea trout and flounder. I was concern because salt water fish are much stronger and they pull hard. To my surprise it was able to handle all sizes from 14"-28" lengths of speckled trout and my biggest flounder was a 25." It is so sensitive on bass- especially drop shot set ups. I used 1/4-3/8 oz. on the bucktail and with a gulp curly tail trailer. I was able to drap and hop it on the bottom and felt flounders nibbling on the lure.
On my scale, the p5 x-bites weight in at 3.7oz. although it's not a spinning rod.
My Xbites was 3.72 on the sale also. Pretty freaking amazing. My NRX 873c is 3.92
i paid $500 for my 842s on ebay. definitely worth it!
You plan on getting one of those new st croix legend extremes and making a vid?
I don't think I will this year. There's not a model that I really want/need. I haven't even seen one in a store yet.
PunchFishing no worries I’m on my second one right now and love how they feel. Hopefully you get a chance to get one!
I have the 7’ medium casting. I’m not sure id bother with a casting review. I am interested to get my hands on the 7’ spinning tho
Then again, I hate casting thru AGS guides with a leader. So I’m not even sure I’d love the spinning rod either. And that says a lot bc I am the biggest croix fanboy ever
Hey there- was hoping you could help me with some rod selection for a new baitcasting setup- here are the baits I'd like to throw on this rig:
-3/16. and 1/4 oz Uoze swim jigs with ~3.3-3.8" keitech trailers
-3/16 oz. 3/0 owner weedless rigged underspin with 3.8" keitech or 4" spark shad
-1/4 oz. minimax chatterbait + 3.5" trailers
-The new 4" topwater Zman GOAT Toadz rigged on a 4/0 EWG weightless
-3/8 oz. spinnerbait
-3/8 oz. dark sleeper
-3/16 or 1/4 oz. finesse jigs + 3-3.5" trailers
-3/16 to 1/4 oz. texas rigs + 4" plastics
Do you think it makes more sense to go with the 842c or 843c for these applications? My main concern is that because some of these baits are closer to the lighter end of the range on the 843c that they will not adequately load- even though it would probably make most sense to have a Medium Heavy to drive some of the larger 3/0 and 4/0 hooks home on the swim jigs, texas rigs, and topwaters I intend to throw. As someone who has had experience with more high end tackle than me I was hoping you could help!
Thanks!
I don't have any experience with the 842c or the 843c
@@PunchFishing I think you need to change that!
Getting a craving for NRX plus. Because of length and action I'm leaning to the 842 SJR. Do you feel the NRX plus 842 would be similar to the 842 conquest?
I've not used the 842s NRX+, but I'd imagine it's pretty close. I'm a huge fan of the 852s.
@@PunchFishing Bought me an 852s and love it. Put an Exsence on it, best combo I own. 🎣
@@PunchFishing BTW : I also followed your advice on buying locally. Asked for and received a substantial discount on the rod and the reel. Thanks 🙂
@@ronforeman5317 that's awesome
Have you considered getting a Megabass Valkyrie spinning rod for a review?? I love my NRXs and Megabass. Haven’t been convinced to go Conquest...
I have not looked into the Valkyrie spinning rods
@@PunchFishing Thanks. I have one on order and it should be here this week. I am a “seasoned” fisherman (old guy), and I really enjoy your videos. I switched over to all Spinning gear about 25 years ago and haven’t looked back since. I did this mainly because I do a lot of saltwater fishing and only have spinning gear for this. Also because I learned how to fish on spinning gear a long time ago. I did some local tournaments for a few years and never felt as if I was giving up anything to the bait casting crowd. Did pretty well for those years. I know you’re really not interested in my history, but I wanted to thank you for doing spinning rod reviews as much as you do. Keep up the great work!
@@tedlarrabee9278 you'll love it!
I dropped a like on your video.
Price points mentioned in your video $450 to $500 sometimes. Tell me more please? I have two and thinking of getting a third. I looked everywhere and cannot find a lower price than $650. Pretty good salesman but never able to get a discount. Would love to hear where you are seeing these lower prices. thanks, Mark
You need to go into a physical store that sells them, or message some shops privately on Facebook.
I believe it is a nice rod that makes you smile and Shimano is a great rod and reel manufacturer But....for (almost) 700$ NO WAY, even 500€ i think i pass. Looking forward to the P5 review....Now THAT’s my cup of tea. Megabass, Tenryu, Hearty Rise.... I’m Sold 🙃🙃🎣.
Which baitcaster reel you recommend and do you need a DC reel in your arsenal?
I'm super excited about the P5s! I spent some time with the Xbites last weekend and its siiiiick
I bought myself a exsence 3000 for my Tenryu dropshot 62. 💪😉
Hiw donut compare to the destroyer evolutions
Would you recommend that rod for texas rigging or shaken head?
yes
@@PunchFishing awesome Thank you for the reply and going to order me one this week
Question for you man. If you could get the 7' Expride M for $120 or this rod for $280 what do you do?
Expride is the smart choice, BUT if $280s no big deal to you definitely splurge. Depends on your financial situation.
@@PunchFishing I sent you an email hoping for your help and suggestions on building my own arsenal!
How do you get 25% off
Was wondering if you knew the difference between SJR vs JWR vs MRB etc. Maybe a future vid 🤔?
SJR=versatile spinning JWR=bottom contact MBR=versatile baitcast
I always hear you say buy at your local tackle store. What is your local tackle store i want to go in and get me a good fishing rod too and get 20% off. By the way I'm from MN as well.
I hit Capra's mostly. Joe's, Thorne and Omnia are also fantastic.
@@PunchFishing I go to joes all the time. They never once mentioned anything about any discounts. I should start going to Capra since its closer.
Joe's basically does 20% off all the time. You just need to stay your part of a local fishing club. If you go to Capras talk to Ross or Pao and they will hook you up.
You love that rod... it's obvious and you're a legit critic...6 months in it's my favorite, too! Cheers
I just put a new reel on it :)
@@PunchFishing what did you put on it? Stella, Tatula LT...? I have a beautiful 2021 Twin Power on mine and loving it. Balances perfectly
@@marcusvidrine7688 snagged a couple Exsense 4000s
@@PunchFishing Rad combo, does it get better? Conquest x Exsense 🤓 💵🎰 and as I remember, you were doubtful of the Conquest 842 at first...
What's the warranty like?
It's on Shimano's website.
How do you think this rod compares to the NRX+ 842s
Is there a NRX+ 842s??
@@PunchFishing Sure is the NRX+ 842S SJR shows on the website. And I just ordered one so I hope so.
Have you tried FX CUSTOM Rods
They have the extreme angler series and a titanium series
@@rodneyjacoby5788 no I have not. I don't plan on picking any up.
Xzoga blank is the best
I have this rod in a different model. Why would you beat the crap out of this $700 rod? I baby this rod. I don't allow it to rest against any potentially abrasive objects. I also wipe it down after use. GLX & Conquest side by side, I couldn't feel any differences. I bought it just because I got some extra cash.
Bud this rod has the components assembled by Gloomis and the tapers are designed by Gloomis. The blank are built by Shimano and sent to Gloomis for final assembly 🤨
Short answer, great rod, but no, not worth the asking price. And I LOVE GLoomis.
I still don’t understand why Shimano didn’t use the nrx guides. Those guides looks better and feels better
This rod uses Torzite guides which are the most expensive and highest end guides out right now for bass rods
@@PunchFishing true but like you mentioned it doesn’t throw as far as if the NRX guides were to be use. It might be a better rod.
You put a shimano vanford on there and it will cast better and be lighter!
Higher resell on an nrx vs a conquest?? What are you smoking lol the conquests are on average $80-$100 more expensive.
For $ 700 this stick is for rod fetish, not for anglers))
Anglers can't have rod fetishes? Come on now.
Shimano products are all over priced
I don't fully agree with that lol
I love this rod but I’m a shore banger. I’ll buy this rod when shimano starts putting nrx guides on them. Hope shimano hears this. Besides the nrx guides are better. A few grams more isn’t going to hurt. People will still buy it.
Higher resell on an nrx vs a conquest?? What are you smoking lol the conquests are on average $80-$100 more expensive.
I meant you take more of a hit selling a Conquest than a NRX. Between sale price and purchase price. Used Conquests don't go for much more than used NRX's. I'm actually seeing used NRX+'s going for more than used Conquests lately.