THEY REALLY TRIED TO END EACHOTHER! Henry Ford vs Karl Marx. Epic Rap Battles Of History (REACTION)

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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2025

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  • @EpicLLOYD
    @EpicLLOYD Год назад +3951

    Well done my Mansa! Thanks as always for watching gets me amped! Ok that's it...Bezos out! - eL

  • @chilibreath
    @chilibreath Год назад +1214

    Scru nearly laid down in his reaction to this battle.
    Scru: Karl, you can calm down now.
    Karl Marx: *NO*

    • @mung01re
      @mung01re Год назад

      On brand. Marx was a relentless asshole.

    • @ematuskey
      @ematuskey Год назад +121

      Scru: Karl, you've made your point, let Henry pull back!
      Karl: I'll take it under advisement. HIT HIM AGAIN!

    • @v1xpng
      @v1xpng Год назад +25

      ​@@ematuskey W reference

    • @ajdominguez1002
      @ajdominguez1002 10 месяцев назад

      ​​@@ematuskey"Take *THIS* under advisement." 🔫🤨🧑‍💻
      💻🦽🧨
      💥💥💥

    • @Drakkoren
      @Drakkoren 9 месяцев назад +14

      He did not appreciate Karl bringing up his daughter.

  • @seigeengine
    @seigeengine Год назад +3369

    The sad thing is after seeing several reactions from people who do not have any idea who either Henry Ford or Karl Marx is, I was actually relieved when Scru demonstrated basic awareness of two of the most important figures in recent history.

    • @steamedclams5689
      @steamedclams5689 Год назад +158

      Yeah. I obviously know more than him because my family is from Detroit and I’ve seen Henry Ford’s gravesite, but yeah.

    • @InternetSado
      @InternetSado Год назад +72

      Should also check out Knox hill

    • @trla6505
      @trla6505 Год назад +25

      No offense but I don't get to see reactions of people who aren't really know how like scru or history buffs

    • @theacepanda1606
      @theacepanda1606 Год назад +65

      I wouldn't say recent history since that's generally considered post the start of WWI or post the end of WWII (is debated) and Karl died in 1883, like 30 years before the start of WWI. But I agree that I'm relieved that Scru at least has a basic understanding of the 2 people.

    • @radicism
      @radicism Год назад +47

      @@trla6505usually its ppl who know nothing ab the history but know rap or ppl who know nothing ab rap but know the history

  • @fadeemblem7665
    @fadeemblem7665 Год назад +3965

    I credit Scru for changing how I look at battle raps, I used to just watch ERBs and think "wow that was cool", but now I actually break down the lyrics in my head and compare who's punching better and harder, and it gives these battles so much more depth. So thanks a lot man. And never stop pausing.

    • @ScruFaceJeanOfficial
      @ScruFaceJeanOfficial  Год назад +1192

      These are the comments that make it all worth it

    • @fadeemblem7665
      @fadeemblem7665 Год назад +137

      ​@@ScruFaceJeanOfficial YOOOOOO I got a heart and a reply from Scru himself! You're gonna love this battle man, they got vicious as HELL in it.

    • @theSephirothgene17
      @theSephirothgene17 Год назад +42

      ​@@fadeemblem7665 I totally agree, I was the same way for the longest time with ERBs.

    • @coprophagichobo2377
      @coprophagichobo2377 Год назад +8

      Exactly

    • @wadeeubanks8435
      @wadeeubanks8435 Год назад +18

      Same here!!! Before Scru Face I just liked whichever one made me laugh the most but now I pick the battles apart more.

  • @Ravenholm337
    @Ravenholm337 Год назад +940

    "and when they marched for better wages, shot them dead in the streets." I LOVE when they hit so hard with the actual history in Epic Rap Battles of HISTORY.

    • @GumSkyloard
      @GumSkyloard Год назад +50

      We absolutely need more History in ERB. I fucking LOVE it.

    • @biggyr6252
      @biggyr6252 10 месяцев назад +6

      ironic bar from a communist

    • @BrandonBuster-y6o
      @BrandonBuster-y6o 10 месяцев назад

      @@biggyr6252I mean I wouldn’t say it’s not ironic but it is widely believed that Ford paid off the cops who shot the protesters dead

    • @BrandonBuster-y6o
      @BrandonBuster-y6o 10 месяцев назад

      @@biggyr6252I mean I wouldn’t say that it’s not ironic but it’s widely believed that Ford paid off the cops to silence the workers. Which to me is worse than what normally happened in communist countries when they found out you knew too much

    • @mrtoast244
      @mrtoast244 8 месяцев назад +19

      I actually didn't know Ford did that, I learn a lot from each battle because I research so I can understand the references which sends me down rabbit holes lol

  • @andrewklang809
    @andrewklang809 Год назад +1320

    Scru, that "laying off the gas" line is a perfect encapsulation of this battle. Ford was running hot at the start, but as the rounds grew shorter, his reliance on getting in the dad jokes meant he was being clever, maybe snarky. But Karl never stopped, countering every little remark Henry had and ripping deeper and deeper. Woulda pulled out Henry's heart, if he had one.

    • @koalamanda8299
      @koalamanda8299 Год назад +139

      Hard agree, the "dirty smelly slob" were okay the first time but by the time he got to Cologne and soapbox, I was like "you really gotta reuse your jokes?"

    • @chrishubbard64
      @chrishubbard64 Год назад +112

      I think Ford switched it up. First verse was hard hitting murder shots, then he went for crowd appeal with cracking jokes and insults. It can work, but only when your opponent ISNT burying you with knockout blow after knockout blow.

    • @doomdesire2809
      @doomdesire2809 Год назад +44

      I feel like that happens a lot with the characters Peter portrays. For better and for worse, he does like his puns, zingers, and humor lines. Nothing wrong with them, but when you're evaluating them strictly from a battle rap perspective, it definitely gives the appearance of gassing out.

    • @gheebuttersnaps13
      @gheebuttersnaps13 Год назад +58

      That’s because all he could say was that Marx was smelly. That Engels line about capitalists paying for you was pretty tough, it was just over by then alreqdy

    • @andrewklang809
      @andrewklang809 Год назад +33

      @@doomdesire2809 I have noticed that as well, though it isn't always the case. I recall his Caesar went out with a hell of a final line, telling Shaka that after he loses, he'll force him to grow wheat for him, not just a historical jab at one of Shaka's hangups, but clearly implying that, as Romans did, they would enslave those they defeated (and using "beaten" to rub it in). Real gross bar to hear directed at one of the series' few black rappers, but it fit.

  • @chrishoenscheidt6627
    @chrishoenscheidt6627 Год назад +1504

    Idk if this is weird to say, but I feel like you and a couple of the other channels who react to ERB really did have an impact on their style. Like you respected their skills enough to treat their battles as actual battles and not just sketch comedy, and that in turn has inspired them to push their videos even further in that direction

    • @disappointedoptimist255
      @disappointedoptimist255 Год назад +173

      Yeah there's probably been some influence there, their recent videos have all been very tightly written

    • @crusadernikolai1996
      @crusadernikolai1996 Год назад +115

      I agree, and it’s pushed the quality so much higher. This ERB is one of the best they’ve done

    • @MattyBmemes
      @MattyBmemes Год назад +62

      Fr i think theyre treating them a bit more like battles

    • @Lord_Muggs
      @Lord_Muggs Год назад +51

      I'd agree. The more reactions ERB watches, the more fine-tuning they do.

    • @TransparentManchester
      @TransparentManchester Год назад +23

      Their first few battles were comedic and funny and their most recent one is that + actual bars

  • @rogovnin
    @rogovnin Год назад +359

    There was a song:
    Yes, Henry Ford was a fascist
    And a nasty one was he:
    He’d build tanks for anyone For the proper fee

    • @silverstar8868
      @silverstar8868 7 месяцев назад

      That alone doesn't make him a fascist, just an unprincipled capitalist

    • @amirhaikal6672
      @amirhaikal6672 4 месяца назад

      I mean out of context, that's not really fascism, that is just business. It's war, if you need to sell tanks to the "bad guys" in our time, then you sell tanks to them. Ford is not a fascist because he sells to the Nazis, he is a Nazi because he openly supported them.

  • @brenlc1412
    @brenlc1412 Год назад +993

    Marx’s last verse was excellently brutal, but the Flint water line secured the win for me.

    • @thetabbyguy921
      @thetabbyguy921 Год назад +116

      Marx's second verse was all about destroying Ford for everything he did in Michigan, finishing in the most brutal way possible.

    • @christophercook1372
      @christophercook1372 Год назад +46

      That and the previous line about Detroit and Em, combined they were the kill shot

    • @charlottewalnut3118
      @charlottewalnut3118 Год назад +3

      ​@@thetabbyguy921It's not really you can't blame forward for what happened to Michigan, what has happened to michigan has been about 50 years of bad management and it's not been from someone who's been dead for almost a 100 years. You can blame Carl marks for his stupid ideology because its existence is his fault.

    • @sfbeht7n459
      @sfbeht7n459 Год назад +44

      @@charlottewalnut3118 what lmao

    • @MWhaleK
      @MWhaleK Год назад +8

      Found On Road Dead was the final nail in the coffin for Henry.

  • @TomboTime
    @TomboTime 10 месяцев назад +31

    I love Marx's line "Look . . dummy . . .sharing money IS the communist vision".
    it's the perfect rebuttal because Ford called him a hypocrite for relying on a capitalist to pay his bills and he's like
    "No . . . I'm practicing literally exactly what I'm preaching. I said we should share money and Engel's bank shared the money".

  • @Thelocalfriend93
    @Thelocalfriend93 Год назад +240

    It's a common joke in the car scene, Found On Road Dead is supposed to be what FORD stands for. That last line hits hard

  • @kfiraltberger552
    @kfiraltberger552 Год назад +616

    The moment I saw this battle I knew in my head "dang Scru's gonna like Marx here"
    one little thing you didn't point out but that I found quite funny- Karl marx's final line was "I'll leave a ford as expected, Found On Road Dead" which spells out ford. Anyways, enjoyed this ERB, enjoyed this reaction, hopefully there will be more erbs so you have more reactions to them

    • @skrrtskrrtbrrpbrrp
      @skrrtskrrtbrrpbrrp Год назад +53

      he missed that brazil city line too, not a too clever one but funny haha

    • @ultrahotwings9738
      @ultrahotwings9738 Год назад +34

      There's so many jokes on the Ford name that could've been used, too, lmao. I used to call 'em "Fucked Over Repaired Dodges".

    • @spartan4613
      @spartan4613 Год назад +59

      "Found On Road, Dead" is the nickname that people who dislike Ford cars use to trash them. It's a great bay to end that slaughter of a final verse

    • @tragicallyhypno3158
      @tragicallyhypno3158 Год назад +28

      The other abbreviation of Ford I like is Fix or Repair Daily. Though I'm from Ontario and I wish the Ford there would be Found on Road Dead.

    • @jamescurfman3284
      @jamescurfman3284 Год назад +12

      @@tragicallyhypno3158 That does not surprise me. 'Found On Road Dead' really dose sound more harsh while 'Fix Or Repair Daily' really does sound much more Canadian just because of the lack of an edge that has.
      From everything I have heard or been told, most Canadians are WAY more nice and respectful of other people than most United States citizens. I know for a fact that we can be edgy jerks for no reason at all, so my hat's off to you folks up North for remaining Decent Human Beings. :)

  • @TrueRetroflection
    @TrueRetroflection Год назад +407

    This is where Karl Marx became Karl Marksman

    • @RobCrowley85
      @RobCrowley85 9 месяцев назад +11

      Epic wordplay! 👏🏻

    • @thereaper5743
      @thereaper5743 8 месяцев назад +15

      *Marxman, and yeah good fucking job... shit

    • @Yomest-ip3tq
      @Yomest-ip3tq Месяц назад

      He just pissed on ford's body and marked it as his territory like dam

  • @stantheman143
    @stantheman143 Год назад +129

    ''You kinda let your foot of the gas, Henry''
    Mansa Musa woke up for that bar

  • @ZackofSpades
    @ZackofSpades Год назад +248

    Hey Scru! That very last line is actually a clever bar. Fords break down so much that the initials FORD are considered an acronym for "Found On Road Dead"

    • @sfbeht7n459
      @sfbeht7n459 Год назад +8

      oh shit i didnt catch that!

    • @monniebrown8581
      @monniebrown8581 Год назад +5

      I like Found On Road Dead. I usually hear it as Fix on the road daily.

    • @Beef266
      @Beef266 Год назад

      Fix Or Replace Daily
      F***ed Over Remodeled Dodge
      Failure On Race Day
      Or if you turn it backwards:
      Driver Return On Foot

    • @illelusive
      @illelusive Год назад

      fix or repair daily
      @@monniebrown8581

    • @ButlerOfChaos
      @ButlerOfChaos Год назад +7

      Ford stand for Fix It Again, Tony
      Dale thats Fiat!

  • @ComradeVenus
    @ComradeVenus Год назад +908

    A bar that goes over many people's heads is when Marx says "can't take shit from you according to ability"
    Marx described communism as "from each accouring to their ability, to each according to their need". So in that line, marx is saying ford would be completely useless under communism

    • @marchdarkenotp3346
      @marchdarkenotp3346 Год назад +95

      Oh god, now there's a deep cut!

    • @SnuupSantana
      @SnuupSantana Год назад

      Yes but communism is shit so it doesn’t really matter

    • @NOWABO
      @NOWABO Год назад +1

      Which.... is patently false, because the first thing communists would do is take all of Henry Ford's wealth that he got from his ability to make manufacturing thousands of times better. So...

    • @letsplaywithmegacyborg3098
      @letsplaywithmegacyborg3098 Год назад +17

      L communist

    • @peachtime
      @peachtime Год назад

      something something german ideology something something Communism is for us not a state of affairs

  • @edrianvanitas9329
    @edrianvanitas9329 7 месяцев назад +26

    nah because Marx saw the final boss of capitalism talk about his daughter and locked the fuck in

  • @Nickel138
    @Nickel138 Год назад +167

    “Disassembling time pieces was how I got my start.” then he said “WATCH me tear your ideology apart.” 🔥

  • @danielmcdermott452
    @danielmcdermott452 Год назад +168

    Watching Scru say Marx won he can calm down now not realizing that Marx still had another couple haymakers for Ford before the fight ended 😂

    • @thesaltybeard1793
      @thesaltybeard1793 11 месяцев назад +36

      Marx wasn't about to just kill Ford. He was gonna make sure nobody could recognize him down to his dental records xD

  • @danieluzoma899
    @danieluzoma899 Год назад +366

    The line “when a world leader likes you that’s a red flag” could mean that world leaders liking karl is bad…but the red flag could also stand for the communist symbols and colors we see on the Chinese flag and old ussr flag

    • @michaelmcdoesntexist1459
      @michaelmcdoesntexist1459 Год назад +51

      I thought the same. A subtle but hard hitting bar.

    • @jamescurfman3284
      @jamescurfman3284 Год назад +37

      Most of the bars in these ERBs have double entente.

    • @wharknut
      @wharknut Год назад +53

      @@michaelmcdoesntexist1459i dont think it’s really subtle it’s a pretty blatant line i feell ike most people have thought about “red flags” in the context of political flags

    • @truedarklander
      @truedarklander Год назад +29

      ​@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459It's as subtle as a brick wall 😂

    • @michaelmcdoesntexist1459
      @michaelmcdoesntexist1459 Год назад

      @@wharknut yeah, you're right. I must be drunk when I wrote that XD

  • @yuwish6320
    @yuwish6320 Год назад +169

    OMG, I just got the "free farm in a forest" line. Concentration camps. Wow. That hits so hard. I also really liked the black and white film scene referring to "big brother" aka 1984. And the Animal Farm book reference was fire.

    • @LucyAdroit
      @LucyAdroit 10 месяцев назад +6

      The "Auschwitz side you are on" probably made it made way clearer

  • @Estebanbermu98
    @Estebanbermu98 Год назад +137

    When Scru said “foot off the gas, Henry… that’s a bar too” i cracked up because the ERB universe now literally expands and transcends to include him both as a character and as a reactor himself who rates bars, recommends disses, and predicts the strategy 😂🤣

  • @bionodroid547
    @bionodroid547 10 месяцев назад +12

    "remembered as the fascist sympathizing cause of climate change and car crashes" is probably the most deadly bar ever uttered in a rap battle. this is why erb is great, you just don't get that opportunity with regular battle rap lol

  • @TeenTyrant
    @TeenTyrant Год назад +67

    Karl Marx’s last line, “found on road dead,” even spells out FORD.

    • @Zoubilable
      @Zoubilable Год назад +3

      That's the joke

    • @TeenTyrant
      @TeenTyrant Год назад +5

      But Scru didn’t point it out, so I don’t know if he caught it. It makes the final diss even richer (ironically, considering the subject)

  • @EnderThatRetiredDude
    @EnderThatRetiredDude Год назад +558

    I'm so excited for this. Scru is the best reactor imo cuz he actually reacts and breaks down stuff, he doesn't point out the obvious and act like an npc. Love you scru!

    • @O-OO1-O
      @O-OO1-O Год назад +2

      True.

    • @sealandball3043
      @sealandball3043 Год назад +15

      if you love reactors like these - Scru is amazing, but Knox Hill, Mr. Terry and Vlogging Through History are better. Their reactions are very well detailed, and very enjoyable to watch.

    • @alex141516
      @alex141516 Год назад +11

      Also Mrlboyd he's real into history so knows most of the history is the lines.

    • @crusadernikolai1996
      @crusadernikolai1996 Год назад +3

      I have learned about how to view battle rap bars from scru fr

    • @WallyTheWhale-xu7pg
      @WallyTheWhale-xu7pg Год назад +2

      Bro doesn't know Knox Hill

  • @JoeVO24
    @JoeVO24 Год назад +85

    the interesting thing about this battle is that each rapper used a style that kinda reflected their ideologies.
    Ford used all his best stuff immediately (almost as if he were impatient to use it, or focusing all the "wealth" in one place) which left him with one good line for his last verse and shallow disses for everything else, whereas marx spread out his dirt evenly across the entire battle so that just when the impact of the last line was running out hed sock you with another one. he had rebuttals for nearly everything ford threw at him while ford didnt even rebuttal the hitler line...because he couldnt. Ford mostly treated it like a joke. Karl treated it like a battle. thats why he won.

  • @carrotman410
    @carrotman410 Год назад +54

    the "lose themselves like emenem" bar is also relly good because emenem grew up in the metro detriot area

    • @rammsteinrulz16
      @rammsteinrulz16 Год назад

      I might be trippin, but I could swear that bar was used somewhere else, but i cant for the life of me recall where I've heard it before

  • @LangThoughts
    @LangThoughts Год назад +257

    "Animal Farm" was a book by George Orwell attacking Marxism, thus the "Big Brother" line, which is a refence to the same writer's book "1984" was Marx anticipating and prebutting the Animal Farm reference, and given the plot of "1984", when Ford took the bait, Marx doubled down in his next verse without even referencing the book itself. Damn......that's one of the hardest bars in ERB history

    • @Lilly-fh7re
      @Lilly-fh7re Год назад

      animal farm is funny cause it was called communist propaganda by the USA and anti-communist propaganda by the Soviet Union

    • @wormwood8352
      @wormwood8352 Год назад +81

      animal farm wasn't an attack on marxism- orwell himself was actually a socialist and put his life on the line fighting alongside spanish republicans, communists, and anarchists in the spanish civil war. it was more about revolution and the ways that revolutions are corrupted by strongmen rather than being about a singular ideology. of course, orwell was rather pointedly critiquing the USSR and stalin in animal farm, but that wasnt his exclusive focus. the main pig who takes power for himself is called "napoleon" after all, named for the man who turned the nascent french revolutionary republic into a monarchy/empire under himself. orwell was not opposed to socialism or communism, but just disagreed with revolution as a means of attaining social progress. i dont disagree with your overall point, though, i think this analysis adds to it. makes marx's lines about ford not reading and big brother even more of a dunk.

    • @LangThoughts
      @LangThoughts Год назад

      Huh, I thought that because of Stalin, Orwell became disillusioned with Marxism, thinking it to subject to corruptions like Stalin, and adopted a more moderate form of Socialism instead. @@wormwood8352

    • @mileshill7196
      @mileshill7196 Год назад

      It was more of an attack on the Stalinist authoritarian strain of supposed communists.

    • @truedarklander
      @truedarklander Год назад +4

      ​@@wormwood8352it was an attack on what he saw the Soviet Union as, note that I say it this way, because he didn't have any experiences on the USSR

  • @thehopper9645
    @thehopper9645 Год назад +79

    One underrated component of how ERB has improved is how much better the matchups are these days. My GOD is this a good matchup

  • @afoshay7939
    @afoshay7939 Год назад +204

    Scru goes way more above and beyond than how other reactors are doing it. Adds a whole new layer of depth to ERBs to make it feel like a completely different watch. Best reacter on Yt

    • @christhomas7421
      @christhomas7421 Год назад +5

      You obviously haven't seen a Knox Hill breakdown then

    • @hazel-vf7on
      @hazel-vf7on Год назад +8

      @@christhomas7421 They're both OG. Scru has more raw enthusiasm and reaction, and Knox is more of a calm and collected analyst in my opinion.

    • @danielbeasley8543
      @danielbeasley8543 Год назад

      Mrlloydb

  • @deusdragonex
    @deusdragonex Год назад +147

    Scru is one of RUclips's perfect ERB reactors. He's super charismatic, knowledgeable about history and pop culture, has the ability to break down rap battles from a lyrical, musical, and antagonistic view, and has the rap skills to back up his analysis. Like, complete A+. Can't get better.

    • @LeeJin_PH
      @LeeJin_PH Год назад

      enter Knox Hill

    • @cirrustate8674
      @cirrustate8674 Год назад

      @@LeeJin_PHKnox is good, but I think Scru is better.

    • @troykearney9516
      @troykearney9516 Год назад

      HE is one of only a select few reactors that ACTUALLY have had ERB's creators (Epic Lloyd and Nice Peter) show them love in the comments for their breakdowns of the battles and not just because he was ACTUALLY in an ERB battle.

    • @zemorph42
      @zemorph42 10 месяцев назад +1

      That's why I just subbed to him and started to watch his ERB playlist at 4:30 in the morning.

  • @coprophagichobo2377
    @coprophagichobo2377 Год назад +194

    The only reaction RUclipsr I watch cause he actually breaks things down to whatever level. Love this guy.

  • @DuraluminBurner
    @DuraluminBurner Год назад +48

    The second that Ford uttered the line "You wouldn't have to bury quite so many," I KNEW Scru was gonna have a fucking field day with this one.
    You've changed the way I look at rap, bro. I mever used to know shit about it, but you're like a rap historian. I wish I could take all the knowledge you have about the subject and process it. It's facsinating to me. Like the other comment said: keep pausing. Your commentary leaves me in awe half the time.

  • @ryanics2291
    @ryanics2291 Год назад +77

    I used to not like rap, Im a metalhead, but Scru gave me an appreciation for rap and helped me to understand it all. Scru single handedly helped me understand why ERB works so well.

    • @aerickmon3350
      @aerickmon3350 Год назад +10

      Rap is really good and popular for two things they’re good at
      Flow of the beat and lyricism
      Lyricism is one of the most respectable aspects of the genre which I would bet you appreciate it here

    • @ryanics2291
      @ryanics2291 Год назад +9

      @aerickmon3350 Its a very deep style of writing, one with double, triple, quadruple meetings and that show not only the writing ability but the emotional depth, importance and weight of lines. Weirdly enough though, cant watch ERB without Scru, just aint right without " DOOONN DEMMAAARCO" 🤣🤣

    • @seand.g423
      @seand.g423 Год назад +4

      ​@@ryanics2291bang, bang.

    • @ryanics2291
      @ryanics2291 Год назад

      @@seand.g423 ish like that

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 Год назад +132

    Your breakdowns of these are honestly, at this point, half the fun of ERBs. Love hearing about disses and/or references I might have missed.

  • @beattyboyproductions9128
    @beattyboyproductions9128 10 месяцев назад +6

    THat last line is a classic diss for FORD cars "Found On/Off Road Dead" F O R D. Perfect ending. But you missed the hemorrhage line. This was dark and great.

  • @TheBatman-
    @TheBatman- Год назад +123

    IMO, I picked Karl Marx as the winner but Ford had some nice bars as well

    • @CarbonMage
      @CarbonMage Год назад +45

      Ford's first verse was brutal, but Marx pulled out the win by the end

    • @lo9070
      @lo9070 Год назад +10

      ​@@CarbonMage I mean Ford first versd was his best one but it was already even after the first round, and then the second and third round with Marx verses were fucking brutal, he dominated 2/3 of the battle.

    • @IwinMahWay
      @IwinMahWay 10 месяцев назад +1

      Expected.. Marxism wins best when it's all theoretical.

    • @TampicoV2
      @TampicoV2 4 месяца назад

      @@IwinMahWayyeah on paper marxism would be almost perfect but in reality it won’t work

  • @zac.m1003
    @zac.m1003 5 месяцев назад +4

    The one rebuttal that Marx had that you didnt mention i thought was KILLER
    In Ford's last verse, he talks about how Engels essentially bankrolled the revolution through his textile mills, and how Marx is compromising on his beliefs for working with a capitalist.
    But that's essentially a trap laid out for anyone who doesnt ACTUALLY understand the values of communism, and Marx rebuts with that exact thing at the start of his last verse. He talks about how the idea of Communism IS to distribute wealth from the top to the bottom, and by Engels bankrolling the revolution, he was actually STEADFAST in his beliefs, not compromising them.
    Considering that this battle is essentially "communism vs capitalism", the fact that Marx just totally shattered the perception of his ideology WHILE also highlighting the flaws in Ford's, made the battle OVER

  • @MrTroubleHimself
    @MrTroubleHimself Год назад +13

    "...like your city in Brazil, nuts"
    Brazil nuts bar but also Ford tried to build a factory city to make rubber for his cars in the middle of Brazil called Fordlândia. It didn't work and now it's an abandoned city so he called that idea crazy which it kinda was at the time.

  • @mixalis295
    @mixalis295 Год назад +33

    Bro everytime ERB releases as a part of tradition I immediately watch for your reaction video, and I have been watching them since season 1, I consider you part of the whole thing nowadays

  • @Boethion
    @Boethion Год назад +56

    I always appreciate these breakdowns for not just explaining some of the references but also in what way they actually punch and rebuttal each other so even if I don't know the historical figures all that well I still get who's winning based on the actual rapping.

    • @alexia4251
      @alexia4251 Год назад +2

      Try Knox hill too

    • @killermetalwolf2843
      @killermetalwolf2843 Год назад

      yeah, as @alexia4251 said, knox hill caught more of the bars (the jenny line, like half of marx's kids died and were named jenny; the edsel line, ford stepped away and let his son take over the company but kept controlling it from the shadows and would embarass edsel (the son) in public and caused him so much stress he died from stomach cancer; there are more bars but those are a few)

  • @meatballg8655
    @meatballg8655 Год назад +15

    i genuinely think this battle was the erb equivalent of loaded lux vs calicoe. there have been back and forth battles in the past, there have been some seriously one-sided battles in the past, but i think this is the first time someone came out with some serious punches in their own right, and got sacrificed to the gods of rap by the other. ford did pretty well, in a lot of other battles he probably would've run away with it, but karl marx dug a whole 12 feet deep and tossed ford in it, then spent 2 minutes filling it back in

  • @lorddjgoliath1809
    @lorddjgoliath1809 Год назад +13

    Karl came out the gate like "Keep my daughters' names out of your FUCKING MOUTH!!!"

  • @meltingdoll3517
    @meltingdoll3517 Год назад +25

    These videos are why I will defend reaction content until the day I die. You don’t just react, you add actual personality and all of your passion for rapping and music into it when you break it down. Learning about rapping while watching you lose it when the Don Demarco’s hit ya makes me smile.
    Not to mention, YOU GOT TO BE MASA MUSA BECAUSE OF HOW HIGH QUALITY YOUR REACTION VIDEOS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN! Keep doing what you do, exactly how you do it. With your fire music, and videos. Love you, Scru! 💜🖤

  • @owenshaw-s9x
    @owenshaw-s9x Год назад +86

    Karl Marx took this one for me. He didn't just start a battle, he waged a war and won with nothing but cold hard FACTS!

    • @MasterKombatBro
      @MasterKombatBro Год назад +16

      One of the few battlers where he didnt have a whole self serve section. All his bars where attacks or ideology

    • @nyx4592
      @nyx4592 Год назад +24

      ​@@MasterKombatBroExactly that. He introduced himself and went for a kill

    • @truedarklander
      @truedarklander Год назад +14

      ​@@nyx4592Ford tried to attack him for being a heavy drinker, but he literally introduced himself as a heavy drinker young Hegelian

    • @KrowwJaeger
      @KrowwJaeger Год назад

      It wasn't even close, Ford was a humongous piece of shit in real life, like an actual villain.

    • @nusquamnemo4780
      @nusquamnemo4780 Год назад

      ​@@truedarklanderto be fair to Ford, I believe Marx had an Opium dependency which is where that line could come from

  • @jprogaminggd
    @jprogaminggd Год назад +49

    Can't wait to see your reaction!

    • @ScruFaceJeanOfficial
      @ScruFaceJeanOfficial  Год назад +23

      Hope you enjoyed it! It’s Gona be Epic….see what I did there lol

    • @Alemiha
      @Alemiha Год назад

      @@ScruFaceJeanOfficial Mansa material

    • @trey1056
      @trey1056 Год назад

      ⁠@@ScruFaceJeanOfficial Dad jokes starting to rub off huh? If you don’t get your laffy taffy aaaahhhhh out of here! 😂 but thanks for all the reactions and let the ERB crew know to keep them coming so we can get to breaking it downz you feel me

    • @kageazura
      @kageazura Год назад

      @@ScruFaceJeanOfficialPLEASE DO BARS NO JUITSU BRO ITS CRAZY

    • @theunknown80
      @theunknown80 Год назад +1

      @@ScruFaceJeanOfficial great breakdown

  • @VladamireD
    @VladamireD 8 месяцев назад +16

    Fun Fact, Marx wrote to Lincoln in support of abolishing slavery, so from his first bars he was setting up the dichotomy of him being a supporter of working people vs. Ford being a supporter of Hitler/Fascism.

    • @VladamireD
      @VladamireD 6 месяцев назад +1

      Also Marx last line in his first set "Beating me is like your city in Brazil, nuts!" Brazil nuts reference is obvious, but the the history of "Fordlandia" (the city Ford built) is indeed nuts. He enforced a strict vegetarian diet, with no alcohol or prostitution, on his workers. His refusal to consult a botanist in the planting the foundational rubber trees (the whole reason the city was started), resulted in barely any latex being produced as the trees were sickly and destroyed by disease. Attempts to recover were rendered redundant with the advent of synthetic rubber. Overall, the failure amounted to a staggering $20 million loss (or about $200 million in today's dollars).

  • @CalvinDWalker
    @CalvinDWalker Год назад +14

    There's always two ERB videos I look forward to watching the most. The first is the actual ERB video itself. The second is your reaction, and you broke it down wonderfully!
    Only wished you had caught that "Your self-made story is dung from a Taurus" (Ford Taurus was a car brand, named after a bull - literally calling it bullshit), as well as the "We can't take shit from you according to ability" (Marx once wrote "From each according to ability, to each according to his need" as a motto for ideal capital distribution - he basically said "You're so useless we can't take anything from you, Ford"). Wish I could find out more about the Ford Brazil line - even with some quick research about their plant down there, that one is still flying over my head.

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 Год назад +8

      I am Brazilian. Henry Ford wanted to make a rubber processing plant for car tires. He chose Brazil because in the 1910s and 1920s, Brazil was one of the biggest latex producers in the world. Ford came down to Brazil to set up his plant, alongside installations for the factory crews to sleep and live with their families, therefore building a small town they would nickname "Fordlândia" (or Fordland, in English). However, when Karl says "nuts!", he's referring not only to brazil nuts, a common thing that grows in the region, but also because Ford decided to set this plant up in the middle of the Amazon forest, since it had nearby rubber tree fields. Back then, the Northern region wasn't even as closely populated as it is today, and still had lots of indigenous peoples (some of which are still uncontacted to this day and have shown hostile behavior to planes flying overhead) living there. This would create extreme logistical problems and security problems from the regional fauna, that includes things like cougars and vipers, to the possibly hostile tribes. Ford pulled the plug on the whole Fordland thing, but he left behind factory foundations, which got engulfed by the expanding jungle, and to this day, old pipes and concrete slabs can be found in there, covered by moss and tree roots.

    • @battalionstallion3894
      @battalionstallion3894 Год назад +1

      @@choppergunner8650 it also didnt help that ford then had the same rules for fordland as he did for his factories which proved to be very unpopular in brazil

  • @madcat789
    @madcat789 10 месяцев назад +4

    See, this is why I like you. You break down every line, every bar, and you do so in a way that's easily digestible and thus, I can appreciate them further than I had before. Good on you man.

  • @13CrystalHeart
    @13CrystalHeart 6 месяцев назад +5

    There wasn't much Henry had to hit with: you're poor, smelly, your kids died, and bad people used your work to do terrible things (The last of which Karl rebuffs by saying they were motivated by their own greed.)
    Karl came with pretty much all the ammunition since Henry Ford was an awful person. (I've even heard it said Henry had a picture of Hitler framed on his desk, and vice versa.) He was ready to kill when he stepped on that battlefield.

  • @anexhaustedcryptek1076
    @anexhaustedcryptek1076 Год назад +6

    12:40 yeah, the automotive industry took most of its jobs overseas, which completely crippled Detroit's economy, leading to it becoming depopulated as people left because so many of the opportunities for employment there were now gone. There's a reason it's part of what is now called the Rust Belt.

  • @ninedeuce8123
    @ninedeuce8123 Год назад +10

    You completely missed that “this battles been a blowout like that hemorrhage in your head” bar. That shit clocked it in for me lol

  • @christophersteel1424
    @christophersteel1424 Год назад +25

    The Animal Farm line was an Orwell pun, but it can apply equally to the extremes of each philosophy. It's easy to compare the U.S. to the book so that line lost the battle for me. Ford was talking about bread lines, but America is just the same.

  • @lolikumadesbear1999
    @lolikumadesbear1999 Год назад +33

    Karl Marx painted the wall with Ford red, fitting for his ideology

    • @IwinMahWay
      @IwinMahWay 10 месяцев назад +5

      And his win is fictional like always

  • @bruhmanse7207
    @bruhmanse7207 Год назад +6

    Another crazy part about the lose yourself like eminem bar is that in a 2009 concert eminem opened the song by saying "for all my auto workers in detroit, this is for you"

  • @lucarudloff687
    @lucarudloff687 6 месяцев назад +3

    "You were worse for Michigan than Flints water pipes" DUDE, Karl brought a nuke to a knife fight

  • @snack_bar2474
    @snack_bar2474 Год назад +22

    Ironically, Scru and Knox Hill are the two best ERB reactors, different views of the battles, different facts shared, and different point of views from artists… and they don’t like each other lol

    • @LucyAdroit
      @LucyAdroit 10 месяцев назад +1

      Imagine just having that be a new rap battle

  • @Milandaanza
    @Milandaanza Год назад +30

    I really enjoyed this breakdown! But I do feel like you skipped the major rebuttal in the third verse amidst the murder. "Look dummy sharing money is the communist vision" pretty much gut the biggest line in Fords third verse.

  • @Sylocat
    @Sylocat Год назад +7

    Like Thanos before him, Henry Ford came in with such a strong opening verse that he got overconfident and rested on his laurels rather than continuing to press the attack, which backfired horrendously on him.

  • @RobHoward83
    @RobHoward83 6 месяцев назад +2

    One of the things about this battle is so good is how "angry" Karl is. EpicLloyd did such a good job of portraying how Karl felt about the working class. That's why he kept double tapping Ford. He was determined to shame him into submission!

  • @harz632
    @harz632 6 месяцев назад +6

    Something no one so far really caught: "Frankly Hank it's clear auschwitz side you were on"
    Frankly -> Anne Frank
    Hank -> The nickname of his grandson Henry and his wife was called Anne

    • @KenanTheFab
      @KenanTheFab 5 месяцев назад

      Holy shit I didn't even catch that.

  • @ethansolomon2126
    @ethansolomon2126 9 месяцев назад +5

    Marx verse 3 is a top 3 ERB verse for me, the writing is on another level:
    - immediately rebuts Ford’s strongest diss (“guess the capitalists are cool when the they’re paying your bills”) with “sharing money IS the communist vision”: he wasn’t a hypocrite for being friends with Engels, redistributing that wealth toward the common people is exactly what they were preaching
    - rebuts Ford’s meanest diss (the Jenny line) which accused him of not being able to provide for his children, by saying “you could’ve, but you chose to make your only child’s life miserable”
    - “the fascist-sympathizing cause of climate change and car crashes” calls back to the rhythm of “future-thinking Lincoln letter inking proletarian” line in verse 1, with both lines summing up their respective legacies
    - after rebutting Ford’s two hardest disses, Marx finally drops the Nazi bars we first got a taste of in round 1. If you thought he deserved more than one line, Marx reveals he was saving all the hardest critiques of Ford’s character for the end.
    - the second verse mainly focuses on how cruel Ford was as a businessman, and the third broadens the scope of these criticisms to paint his whole character as a complete piece of shit
    - Found On Road Dead is a common insult for Ford cars, serving as one final dig at Ford’s business by calling his product terrible
    Absolutely insane, Peter and Lloyd outdid themselves with this one

  • @Fyzer444
    @Fyzer444 Год назад +21

    Scru is one of those few reactors able to breakdown and reacting at the same time. That's why his reactions are my favourite.
    Great battle by the way, I'm giving it to Marx but Ford had some great burns (especially the Jenny one). Let's hope the content coming up from ERB will be as good as this one.

  • @richardmotaifebles7353
    @richardmotaifebles7353 3 месяца назад +4

    Mao, Stalin likes you that’s a red flag is a crazy line.
    Red flag

  • @CapnWatson
    @CapnWatson Год назад +11

    One line I haven't seen much discussion of - "future thinking Lincoln letter inking proletarian" - Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln were pen pals. A super interesting historical fact just dropped with 3 words in the middle. The amount of historical research condensed into this was incredible.

  • @beastlyman114
    @beastlyman114 Год назад +12

    The moment I heard the "Dead in the street" bar from Marx I KNEW you would declare him the winner when I heard it yesterday

    • @KngJester
      @KngJester Год назад

      scru declared him winner long before that line. bruh it took you to the very end to decide that?

    • @beastlyman114
      @beastlyman114 Год назад +2

      @KngJester that line is dead in the middle of the rap but go off lmao it was literally the line that cemented the win in Scrus mind you can tell

  • @Arkiiop
    @Arkiiop 11 месяцев назад +1

    If you didnt know, at 10:34 , Animal Farm is a book that talks about communism and the story of how russia became soviet union and then went back to a more capitalist system

  • @WisdomShrimp1
    @WisdomShrimp1 Год назад +10

    When a new ERB comes out I immediately rush to your channel to see if you have uploaded a reaction
    You break down the lyrics so well!

  • @magnus0017
    @magnus0017 Год назад +4

    This battle is just two people shooting each other, only for them to catch it in their teeth and shoot it back twice as hard. So good for a new ERB season.

  • @destorer5000
    @destorer5000 Год назад +18

    Question...
    Didn't Eminem work in a car factory in the movie?

    • @cqagaming
      @cqagaming 10 месяцев назад +3

      yes just about to say this lol cut em deep lol

    • @cyceryx
      @cyceryx 8 месяцев назад +3

      eminem also grew up in a city just outside detroit

  • @titan7683
    @titan7683 Год назад +4

    “Bourgeois pigs back to animal farm” - SFJ animal farm is a book about communism and the main characters are pigs as well as other animals and farmers. I feel like the bar was under appreciated cause that was a bar. Love the videos, keep up the good work!

  • @alexyang1332
    @alexyang1332 Год назад +9

    It feels like the past few battles they have gotten really good at making both sides be so strong it is still a Tossup despite a ton of heavy blows.

  • @giz6385
    @giz6385 Год назад +13

    I've seen a handful of other reactors give this to Ford but I thought Karl bodied Ford... I was literally saying "Wait till Scru sees this he'll know what's up" glad we on the same page

  • @THENemesisXX99
    @THENemesisXX99 Год назад +4

    Was actually looking forward to see your reaction on this. This battle was one of the closest out there.

  • @PhantomSavage
    @PhantomSavage Год назад +1

    As soon as I saw this was out I immediately went to see if you had made a video of it. Happy to see that you uploaded right as I decided to look ;D

  • @LabrnMystic
    @LabrnMystic 6 месяцев назад +2

    Props for getting the multiple meanings behind lose yourself like Eminem. Most people just think it was just the rap reference, but losing lives, losing who they were. Good job

    • @dj_bosnian99
      @dj_bosnian99 3 месяца назад

      But isn’t that the bar at face value? Like that’s just exactly what’s said it was pretty distinguishable no?

  • @SilverAlex92
    @SilverAlex92 2 месяца назад +1

    I loved this battle. Marx had such a brutal final round. But among all the amazing bars, that "Your legacy is in ashes, remembered as the fascist sympathizing cause of climate change" was just battle ending. Marx was already ahead on round 2, but everything after the legacy in ashes line was just beating a dead horse. What an amazing ERB video

  • @amg4436
    @amg4436 Год назад +4

    Another flip from the "Auchwitz side you are on" bar- "Which side are you on" is a union song, so referring that while also calling ford a Nazi is clean

  • @jordynstief3225
    @jordynstief3225 8 месяцев назад +4

    Scru: Stop! He’s already dead!
    Karl Marx: Good. Just making sure, mate.
    By the way, “This battle’s been a blowout like that hemorrhage in your head”refers to Henry Ford dying of a cerebral hemorrhage on April 7, 1947.

  • @shadowsla7er724
    @shadowsla7er724 7 месяцев назад +3

    I just realized that he means actual flags when he says when a world leader likes you that’s a red flag

  • @TheWhiteWolf6911
    @TheWhiteWolf6911 Год назад +4

    "Leave you like your Ford, Found On Road Dead", such a clever goddamn bar

  • @troykearney9516
    @troykearney9516 Год назад +3

    Scru...the fact that you knew EXACTLY what Henry Ford was saying with the "Hot Karl" reference was HILARIOUS!!!!

  • @mikemcalkich4576
    @mikemcalkich4576 Год назад +1

    Last line is an acronym for Ford lol😂 found on road dead used for years by Chevy lovers one of the best erb

  • @Rippie25505
    @Rippie25505 Год назад +4

    I just love the way Scru picks these apart, this is always my second stop after watching the rap battle. The charisma, the energy, the hilarity! XD

  • @AlinJ.
    @AlinJ. Год назад +2

    Dude, you are THE authority when it comes to breaking down ERBs. As always, love your stuff.

  • @b_kby
    @b_kby Год назад +5

    Only reactor I will ever watch, first thing I thought when ERB posted was "damn I cant wait to see scru's reaction".

  • @thewidow7864
    @thewidow7864 11 дней назад

    I think this one is ERB's masterpiece.The rapping, the disses, the characters themselves, the beat... Everything in this battle is just perfect.

  • @larryross6112
    @larryross6112 Год назад +3

    I don't usually respond to anything but after watching this one I couldn't wait for you to break it down. Thank Scru for keeping it epic as always. Much love from the Ville.

  • @robbob5302
    @robbob5302 Год назад +1

    In the 1800’s, Michigan was always a timber area. Completely run by the timber barons.
    Then about the 1890s, the timber industry crashed. Largely due to steel. (Carnegie)
    So Ford (and GM and others) decided to build their factories in Detroit, to take advantage of cheap labor.
    Decades later, as the factories began to get old and need replacing, other states started to lure the Big 3 to their states. Looking for jobs.

  • @AristotleTheLesser
    @AristotleTheLesser Год назад +5

    Marx reminds me of the evolved form of Tesla. Like not only with the godly choir in the track at the last verse, but having to watch all of the battle intensely to be able to see just what Marx was doing the entire time. Beautiful battle, probably one of my favorites, thank you for putting into words just how good this is

  • @ikebeckman1074
    @ikebeckman1074 3 месяца назад +1

    15:45 is such a funny freeze frame, before Ford notices Marx behind him

  • @Rekker1
    @Rekker1 Год назад +4

    Can we just respect how funky the music is behind this battle for a sec?

  • @vfaulkon
    @vfaulkon Год назад +6

    Ford's lines may have been a production, but Karl clearly seized the means of production...then beat Ford to death with them. Dayum!

  • @PhantomBunny888
    @PhantomBunny888 Год назад +5

    This was a VICIOUS battle, got me screaming after lines

  • @whiteteety9751
    @whiteteety9751 10 месяцев назад +2

    "STAHHHP HES ALREADY DEAD" gets me everytime

  • @giovannigio3764
    @giovannigio3764 Год назад +5

    Epic reaction. Exept for one point i always think you are having a amazing channel and are a amazing rapper. But i don't see a point in brining up the negative but go for the positive. So thanks for your epic reactions. And you are almost at 1 mil. subs, that's outstanding. More reactions please.

  • @MrVampireFang
    @MrVampireFang 7 месяцев назад +2

    Ford: he’s gotta be gassed, he’s been throwing his most powerful punches for the last 2 rounds
    Marks: that was 50% power, actually.

  • @TherapyDerg
    @TherapyDerg Год назад +9

    Karl won that one entirely, with an ironic twist that those rhymes were not evenly distributed.

  • @LabrnMystic
    @LabrnMystic 6 месяцев назад +1

    Your reaction to Ford's last bar of his first verse nearly made me drop my glasses too. Hot damn

  • @Kira1Lawliet
    @Kira1Lawliet Год назад +19

    The other reason Marx won is that, while both could say the other inspired genocidal dictators, in reality, that's only really true of Ford. Mao and Stalin and their comrades loved to quote Marx and call themselves communists, but in truth they were the farthest thing from. Hitler, on the other hand, absolutely learned from Ford's ideology.

    • @MetalBansheeX
      @MetalBansheeX Год назад

      Thank you so much. It's funny to realize that Mao, Stalin & Co. were just posers. China has achieved the ultimate level of posery.
      Ford is the true ruiner.