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Babylon 5 - Epic!! Narns against Centauri - The Wheel begins to Turn!
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2021
- The wheel begins to turn.
Blood calls out for blood.
Who is the good guy and who is bad.
Things are not what they appear to be.
This is a remake of a video a made a few months ago.
With improved story and video quality.
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S1.01(not the pilot)
I wish you all a great 2022!
This will be the last video for this year. Next week the remade videos of episode 2 Soulhunter.
I LOVE Delenn's quote about prior claims about land, and reality about it being another's property for so many years. Mira Furlan jokingly asked JMS how long he lived in Croatia. But I feel like her quote could apply to almost any conflict in history.
It was a wise quote.
@@JK-Visions RIP Mira Furlan :(
A lot of people forget that aside from a certain area of Africa, there is no such thing as a native human population in the overall scheme of things and all of the implications this has. People get somewhere, call it theirs, other people go there and call it theirs, still further people come and claim it their own. "Where does it end?" is the perfect question to ask.
edit for the sake of clarity: I meant it is perfect both looking forward and looking backwards.
@@whyjnot420 Except the oldest hominid remains have been found in Europe, African haplogroups don't exist outside Africa, sub-Saharan Africans owe up to 19% of their DNA to an extinct hominid species no other people on Earth possess (whereas everyone aside from Africans has roughly 2% Neanderthal DNA and everyone aside from Europeans and Africans has roughly 2% Denisovan DNA), RH- blood first appeared in Europeans 35,000 years ago and spread from there, sub-Saharan Africans have 3x the genetic distance from the rest of humanity normally required to qualify as a sub-species, etc. Out Of Africa has been debunked numerous times since the 1980's and really only persists as a political issue. The modern scientific theory is that Homo Sapiens migrated INTO, not out of, Africa and bred with Homo Erectus and/or other hominid species (such as Homo Habilis, but we don't have enough intact DNA to say for sure) to produce modern day Africans, while modern day Europeans are the result of 98% Homo Sapiens and 2% Homo Neanderthal DNA, and Asians are roughly 2% Neanderthal and, depending on the ethnic group, between 2 and 4% Denisovan.
@@whyjnot420 I heard Native American tribes don't want to consider that their tribe took land from other tribes in the past. That's one reason they don't want genetic testing of human remains: they might find it's not their ancestor.
"My apointment 20 years from now".
What indeed comes 20 years later..
If you go far enough in time , your ancestors didn't occupy the land you currently have.
I found the first episode, when first shown on UK tv, by pure chance when idly channel hopping one lonely Sunday afternoon a few decades ago. I caught it right at the start, and was hooked just like that. Fortunately I also had a pizza ready, so that was me sorted for the next hour, and for the following Sundays.
I have, since then, used G'Kar's "The wheel turns, does it not?" expression several times myself. I find it most effective.
The fact that the dream where they strangle each other to death comes back in Season 3 is amazing
The Centauri and Londo in particular are the coolest story in scifi
When I watched the first episode for the first time all those years ago, I thought Londo was going to be one of the good guys, and G'Kar was going to be one of the stereotypical bad guys.
As a Filipino and thus the former colony of several imperialist powers, I have always sympathized with G'kar, particularly his hatred and desire for revenge. Particularly during the second Narn-Centauri war, the fall of Narn, and the aggression of the Centauri towards the League. But this show also showed me that this just cause endless violence.
Sent you a message on your video of facebook pics thread!... I agree here
@@scott6421 I didnt get the email?
I can see that and I understood why the Narns hated the Centauri so much but the problem is, they were hurting and killing innocent people with their hatred both Centauri civilians who hadn't done anything to the Narns and even other races /the ones the Narns conquered/ who had done nothing to the Narns.
One must be careful not to become who they hate in their desire for revenge......
Problem is the Narn are no strangers to genetic cleansing themselves... Ever noticed that they gave no telepaths? They burned them to the last one... Completely erasing them from the gene pool.
@@DeltaPi314 That is the same argumemt white supremacists use to justify the genocide of native Americans. Just say you're racist and be done with it
Blood calls out for blood.
And the wheel will never stop.
To me, these scenes are why B5 was such an amazing show. Being able to watch massive political and interstellar politics take place from (all?) points of view and see the reasons for such volatile decisions, Watching as politicians deal with the effects and the reasons why. Truly, who is right and who is wrong...
Can't you see? The winners are always right.
Babylon5 season one was setting up a lot of future events in the later seasons.
Of coarse Garibaldi would have killed him and the only thing that would have pained him would have been the extra paperwork.
no, it will pain him They are friends, but duty is something else.
You left out the punch line at the end "the paper work is a pain in the butt".
Yeah i try and keep it as short as possible without to much less relevant info(at least in my opinion).
@@JK-Visions Fair enough, but I do love how B5 did the little jokes at the end.
@@Toobeegort While I do agree here, it is worthy of noting that punchlines at the end can dramatically lessen the impact of a serious statement.
@@whyjnot420 That is true but in a episode with a lot of drama a little humor can often be a nice change of pace. B5 had a good balance in the writing of scripts.
@@Toobeegort And sometimes the effect can be the opposite of what I said as well. Something that gives you a little smile can help lodge something in your brain all the better.... Like you said, balance is the key. With the stuff being made today, one complaint I hear a lot (about shows I do not watch admittedly) is that far too many lines end in some dumb punchline.
Thanks for the videos! I hope you do Season 2.
Yep i will start soon. Not this week or the next but the plan is at the end of January.
If my remakes of episode 3,4,5 go quicker it could be sooner.
Looking back at situations like these, it is funny how the dream did come true - just in the absolute opposite way.
The first broadcast episode hits the ground running.
Someone just learned video transitions then.
Yes, I believe you would, Mr. Garibaldi.
it's such a shame that so many of them are no longer with us 😢
Yes we miss them dearly. But I am glad they left us such good stories;)
I used to joke with my fellow nerds about the 'enhance image' trope in 90's scifi and how that wasn't possible. Then AI entered the chat.
I thought it was something more like zoom in. ;)
@@JK-Visions I zoomed in over Ragesh 3, it was hairy!
Brillant acting throughout the series
I never understood how same people who get upset about what Centauri did to Narns both at their arrival at Narn home world and during Narn Centauri war completely ignore the Narns bullying everyone around them until they got defeated. We saw it clearly with Centauri, but there were plenty of Non Aligned worlds that had problems with Narn Regime.
Then again they were the only ones that came to the aid of Earth in the Earth Minbari war.
@@DavidKnowles0 Only to sell them Centauri weapons so Minbari would think they supported Earth and attacked them too.
The Centauri did kinda take things to another level though - I mean even in revenge the narn (and drazi) slapped centauri prime with conventional stuff and not asteroids Marco Inaros style as the Centauri did 😅
But we did care about the Narns bullying everyone, and we didn't care about the Narns because of their behaviour, just as characters in the show didn't care. And then we saw what came of not caring. Brilliant.
@@epiendless1128 beautifully put!!
I loved how later we learned the shadows were fueling the conflict so that the Centaruri would ask for help and become a shadow world.
No they were not. The Narn received no help from the Shadows. The Centauri could take the Narns at any time. The Shadows just helped Refa ans Londos faction install a warmonger
The Shadows merely played on Centauri ego and ambition.
Ragesh 3 is the equivalent of Falklands war.
Great britain owned th falkland islands though Argetina had claim to it. When Argentina came under military rule they decided to invade the falkland islands to gain popular support from the people.
The falklands were home to less than 2000 people and 400k sheep. The military junta of Argentina thought Great Britain wouldnt try to retake it and they can claim they took British territory.
They were wrong. The Prime Minister Thatcher ordered the British armed forces to deployed men and ships contrary to the advise numerous officials in the British Government and representatives of the US Government.
The narns were right.
Its a minor agricultural colony with very few people near the border of Narn space. Its only real value is a jumping off point for an invasion in Narn territory.
I wouldnt be surprise if Centauri emperor Turhan was glad to give it to the Narns. Sheridan said it, he has gone out of his way to make concessions and return lost territory.
The loss of Ragesh 3 will also make an invasion of Narn more difficult.
No, they didn't fuel that particular conflict until Londo got their interest peaked in "Signs and Portents".
It baffles me that the show doesn't have a bigger following and presence in pop culture. Sheldon is an idiot to dismiss the show as 'derivitive'. Did the writers' even watch Babylon 5?! They must have just read the articles put out about some people's (wrong) opinions about Season 1 and assumed that's the whole show. Season one is perfectly fine, and it only gets better as it goes. I don't understand why people dismiss the show because its' not Star Trek or something that's had 50 years to exist...
I think most sane trekkies love B5 too;). I know non who doesnt anyway.
@@JK-Visions I never understood the notion that if you like/love ST, that is all in and nothing else. I like ST, I love B5. But It's no betrayal to be enjoying the Star Trek Universe.
I don't get on board with canon puritans either. ST
I don't understand the inability to like one because of liking the other.
@@warrenpoultney8215 it's because a lot of people who watched trek when it started are all about this whole thing that humanity needs to be paragons of reason and science, when in reality our nature is much more diverse than that. B5 captures that better. We can do great things but we can also be greedy assholes.
@@Darqshadow I agree. It's one of the things I enjoyed most about B5, it was humanity, warts and all.
B5 is one of the BEST Sci Fi shows ever produced!!!
WHO GAVE ITALY SPACESHIPS
AND WHAT WERE THEY THINKING WHEN THEY GAVEM THEM SPACE WAR SHIPS?!?
Domino Theory go brrrt!
I want extra cheeze on mine
Love this show
In the last scene, too bad Garibaldi's following line got cut out. It was a truly awesome line.
I understand but i thought it wasnt a fitting ending at the time. Some things are better left for us to rewatch;)
Hahha Narns defeat a science station and some mines with 0 centauri warships in the area and think they are badasses. Technically they started the war and got their asses handed to them in the end!!!!
Don't come crying to Earth after the Centauri carpet bomb your homeworld, Don't start none and you won't get none
There is a market for a good sf tv show. Probably should be on Amazon Hulu Netflix and not a network.
I recall seeing an interview with the guy I forget his name but he was in charge of programming at NBC and he cancelled the original Star Trek. Years later in an interview he lamented he did that.
We need a good sf tv show.Not another Star Trek or another version of Battlestar Galactica and not a remake of Babylon 5 but something new never seen before.
Babylon 5 was excellent. I hope if ever get a new sf show on tv again it will be just as compelling as this show was.
Babylon 5 Dilgar War? Or Honor Harrington.
That wheel would roll to Gorash VII
I throw my novice self into the court of Babylon 5 knowledge and ask why the Centauri had vampire teeth 😮❓
In terms of the show's lore, there is no specific explanation given within the series for the Centauri's teeth resembling those of vampires. It is likely that the teeth were meant to symbolize certain aspects of Centauri culture and their decadent nature. The Centauri are portrayed as a power-hungry and pleasure-seeking society, and the inclusion of vampire-like teeth may be a creative way to enhance their characterization and convey a sense of mystery and danger. (Got that from ChatGPT;))
@@JK-Visions ok thanks 🙏, Perhaps Vampire teeth might also make them a little more intimidating considering the otherwose silly hair dos. Anyway great series and keep up the good work JK ❣️
Why did Londo curse his entire government? He had to have known that there was heavy debate and that many had to have voted to take action against the Narns. I know he was worried about his nephew but he shouldn't curse even those who agreed with him.
Also, I found it annoying that Emperor Turhan said before he died that Londo was damned but it was Turhan's decision to throw Londo's nephew and the 5,000 other colonists on Ragesh III that likely drove Londo to make the deal with the Shadows in the first place as Londo was sick of nothing being done about Narn attacks on Centauri colonies. Did Turhan REALLY think that Londo wouldn't take him throwing his nephew under the bus personally? Londo may have been damned but Turhan forced him down that path so Londo shouldn't be condemned by him and other moderates for not being willing to let the Narns wipe out their people.
A counterattack on the Narn would have meant war and since the Centauri didn't have the Shadows backing them up, the conflict would have been longer and bloodier.
@@shiroamakusa8075 Without the Shadows, the Narn would probably have won!
I always sympathized with the Narn more than the Centauri.
Except the first few episodes of season 1
Poor Londo...he's right about the Centauri however! Prophetic, too he after all helps put a lunatic on the throne! Still, yeah they are a race of lunatics and cowards (the only Centauri I trula like is Londo - Turhan was ok, but too naive, which is strange for someone who held the throne this long!)
He probably let his guard down too much. That happened a lot in ancient kingdoms.
I wonder which would win in a head to head Narn heavy fighter or rebel alliance A-wing. Thoughts?
Looks like the narn heavy fighters are a bit less maneuverable but it's probably close.
A-Wing. Not even a challenge.
Star Wars is so far ahead in energy generation, the Narn fighters weapon would not even scratch the deflector shield.
Plus, it is interceptor vs heavy fight - the interceptor has the clear advantage in tha matchup.
JMS must've gotten mugged in San Diego or something.
Been there. Great city!
Narn should have never provoked the Centauri. There's no profit in vengeance. Oh, crap, wrong sci-fi series. Well, it still applies.
hmm lando able to see his death does that mean refa saw himself by narm and beaten to death?
If he consulted a see-er yes.
@@JK-VisionsCentauri don't need to consult a seer for their death dreams. But not all Centauri do have such premonitiions in the first place.
Maybe he did. Refa went for mass driver bombing and postwar genocide in camps and such. Maybe the dream led to his actions who led him to die the way he did. But i doubt Londo would have set the trap if not for Morden having framed Refa...
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This makes understandable that the Centauri later used mass drivers on the Narns.