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Hey can you drop a link with more info on the Brazilian F-1 tank you said was active around 1932? I'm trying to find info online, but I'm getting either generic tanks or formula one racecars. PLEASE help! 😅
So far I haven't seen any cooperation, everyone is soloing :). Too bad I don't have anyone to play with. Since I'm playing on PS4, I had to turn off cross play because I was being annihilated by wasd+mouse players. This is going to take some time to git gud.
Having been a firefighter for 5 years I definitely agree with the sentiment that burning alive is basically one of the worst ways to go. Up there with being eaten alive or something like a wood chipper.
I worked long ago in a metal factory where they made copper heating tubes A guy got his arm trapped a arm and he got pulled in I was in time to save him but he had his arm broken in many places Close to wood chipper experience He tried to blame me for his mistake haha
I worked at a hospital for years, and many of our burn unit patients would definitely agree. Staff kept careful eyes on each patient's current mental state because suicide attempts were not unknown.
The brazillian revolution of 1932 (constitutionalist revolution) has a lot of interesting vehicles that were used in combat , such as farm trucks being used as tanks (Bob Semple style). I recommend a few minutes of google search for anyone interested in that kind of stuff
Combat trucks, improvised tanks, armoured trains, the Flammenpanzer, cavalry charges, deliberate civilian bombing, and false machineguns as psychological warfare. The Constitutionalist revolution is all the way up there on the list of wack civil wars
@@davidty2006 Aye, you did. It was when you guys were still fearing operation Seelöwe, and were concerned about fortifying this and that all over the kingdom.
Saw a video on the Churchill Croc, where they said sometimes the unlit ranging shot was enough to get an enemy bunker to surrender. Other times the Petard Mortar had to just crack the concrete first then the unlit ranging shot, which poured down into the bunker was enough. Being stood covered in flammable jelly with a flamethrower ranged on you was enough to break the will of all but the most fanatical
@@frrostbitefffeathers I remember a while back a youtuber called Lindybeige (mostly a general history/whatever he feels like talking about on that day kind of channel) did a video on the Churchill Crocodile stating that going by ratio of successful missions it was actually one of the most effective tanks for the war. Where its divisions developed a routine of doing a "wet quirt" where they just spray the fuel out on to a defensive position without the flame lit, basically covering all the defending soldiers in the flammable liquid. Then followed it by a lit burst of flame in to air in front of the bunker. Which in most cased seemed to be enough to make the defenders abandon their positions and surrender. Which was likely helped by the fact that at this point in the war the British forces would have had the luxury of choosing when and where to deploy them and avoid could positions that had access to AT guns capable of penetrating armour that thick.
Towards the end of my grandfather’s life when he started relating more of the horrific thing he went through in war in North Africa. He did tell us of the time his company was ambushed by a German flamethrower tank during the German retreat after El-Alamein. The tank was waiting in Cactus field and lead platoon took heavy casualties, luckily it was stopped when someone in the company ran through the cactus field and knocked it out with grenades, the guy was pretty bloody after getting get cut by all the cactus but he saved so many.
Sometimes when I'm playing Enlisted I'm impressed by how well the enemy tankers can see even with the commander safely in the turret with the hatch closed. I can barely see what's in front of me, let alone what's around me. But that may just be because the T-34-85's commander only gets one optic while German TCs get 5 or 7 depending on the tank.
Soviet tanks of the time were known for having terrible optics but I feel you. Sometimes I get shot and I'm like where the hell did that come from then the kill cam shows them being half way across the map through trees and shit lol
Red Orchestra 2 sadly doesn't have many tanks, but the multiplayer crews with fully rendered interiors and gory effects really does Pz. III vs T-70 and Pz. IV vs T-34 better than any other game ever.
Post scriptum tank combat you more or less need to have your commander head out. The drivers limited view and gunners magnification are nice hard limits.
@@frostedbutts4340 ooh yeah i always forget about the Italian one. Though "tankette with paper armor" pretty much sums up half of their tanks in general where German was generally more capable when it came to tanks so the bars higher.
@@frostedbutts4340 Well, despite the Moustache of Knowledge's disdain for tanks towing trailers, the Crocodile made a good job of it - so maybe the Italians shouldn't be laughed at for the idea of a trailer on an AYV (MoK = David Fletcher of Tank Museum fame)
Funfact: The soviets had an flamethrower variant of the KV-1 (not the KV-8, there were multible) that was actually designed to attack with chemical weapons
Funfact: All soviet flamethrower tanks could use chemical weapons in theory and that is why all flamethrower tanks are marked as chemical tanks. This structure remained until end of USSR , where reports of fuel air munitions usage due to units names led to reports of USSR using chemical weapons. The name of those units were "Aerosol countermeasure units". Also USSR made Flamethrower tanks in 1932 ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%A2-26
I remember reading the Memoirs of a German conscript who had to fight in the battle of Seelow Heights and subsequently the battle of Berlin. There is a small bit where his unit moves through an area being guarded by a flame tank. When they are sent back during the night the flame tank is a massive ball of fire and all the buildings around it are burning as it erupted.
Germany was actually the first country to use the flamethrowers in 1915-1918. German army captain Richard Fieldler and also another guy who invented the first flamethrower in 1901 but yet during World War 1 in 1914 it wasn't actually used till next year 1915. Firemen in Germany was actually the one who used the notorious weapons and they wouldn't be taken alive as prisoners. They actually used gas mask with a death's head insignia on his sleeve. A soldier who carried it around was actually limited range and few pounds of fuel but yet a tank flamethrower can actually carry hundreds of gallons with a greater range in Second World War. Flamethrowers were actually used in the Vietnam War. The Germans actually called it flammenwerfer.
I think part of the entire "tanks can take incredible damage and keep you safe" comes from things like the 1 tiger tank that ran threw a Soviet occupied town. It took something like 70 major hits and thousands of small arms hits and made it out. It was however unusable after that. DID save the crew and the company commander though
Unrelated but I do have a tiger in enlisted. And there was a time when I was ambushed by a m5 tank and pinned by a m8 tank. Although I survived and took both out, i did lose 2 crews while doing suicidal attacks(that is going out and blowing one up). I even had thoughts of ditching the tank.
As usual, an excellent video. I really like when drawings or blueprints are shown. I get to hit the pause, do a little zoom and voile', in- depth views of the subject matter.
Enlisted is just a microtransaction riddled version of Red Orchestra 2. That game has the GREATEST multiplayer tank crew gameplay alongside and against player infantry, and enemy player-crewed tanks. You push and some soviet with a satchel jumps up from a crater and nukes your whole crew.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 enlisted tanks main gun also gives infantry near it a concussion, rendering them unable to accurately fire for a while. Also hunting tanks in enlisted is satisfying.
Honestly I feel the worst part of being burned to death is if you almost dodge the flamethrower. Getting hit directly would probably dramatically reduce how long you were alive, compared to if only half of you were on fire, and you could run around screaming.
"Flamingo", like "Hetzer" and "Bison" was a generic name given by the German military to a vehicle type. The name focused on the type rather than the actual chassis used. Good video.
@@AKX-DTGRSMP from my experience: the problem is less of population and the sheer amount of games where axis is a mix of low and high ranks(mostly lows)... facing full teams of high rank allied players 70-80% of matches. Also 1000pd bombs are way too strong for this campaign, due to the more open nature of North Africa. Also the map with pits can kiss my ass. Also also no L3's.
Flamingo name comes from the silly turrets on the front resembled bird heads and the flames combined to give it the Flamingo. Source: group of German tankers from 60s who's parents were Panzer crew I met in service at a museum.
It was theoretically sound to build a massive defensive line across France in an anticipation for a similar war to ww1 all the while relying on the Belgiums to defend the north
With a flaming range of only 35 meters, that's not much more than a handheld flamethrower. You could also easily throw grenades or rush to the tank, hidden by the undergrowth, and plant an explosive on the hull. The Allies used a Churchill tank to house the 'Crocodile' flamethrower, which gave it infinitely more armour protection and it could flame as far as 80 yards or more than double the range of the Panzer II Flamm. I played this tank on an old war game, 'Close Combat: The Eastern Front' from 1999 and they never referred to it by any other name than the regular one.
The American Army in the pacific theater during WW2 also used light tanks as flame tanks, but usually they were close-flanked on either side by regular tanks to support them, and/or kept friendly infantry very close by to guard the flame tank forward progress….
Flame tanks have a use, but that is very narrow and specialized. Urban and forest combat are where they prove most useful, but the cost of fuel to feed these machines was high. It would be good for rapid building clearing operations, if you did not care for the collateral damage.
The term as I understand it stems from the German word for flame. Flammen, sounds close to the start of “Flamingo”. And the command for German Flame troops to push forward during assaults was “Flammen Gehn!” Of “Flame Go!” Directly translated. (It actually means “Flametrooper forward!”) And apparently this when heard by British and Australian troops sounded like “Flamingo”. There is also the basic understanding that “Gehen” means “to go” so shortening this hearing “Flamen Gehn” would colloquialize out into “Flame Go” or “Flamingo”
At first I was like "only 35m of range? That's nothing!" but then I thought about that and shit that is a lot of fire. But still very poor range against other tanks, for obvious reasons, but god just a 35m radius semicircle of flame in front would be terrifying
Flamethrowers, great ideas on paper but not that good in practice. It's often overlooked how much support flamethrowers need in general, not only do you need to get them the extra fuel to spray around but also the gas to spray that fuel or you need to get crafty with the fuel. Now that you have a bit more logistics to solve, let's add that the war is often quite dirty business and one thing you don't want your long-range fryer to have is a malfunction and one thing dirt is good at is to get everywhere where it shouldn't get. Maintenance is the key to keep things flowing but then you get the other problem of war, there's usually people who want to shoot you too and be it in a tank or on a back of your fellow soldier, instant long-range skincare unit will handle all your blackheads and pimples away quite soon if the pressurized fuel tank was to suffer sudden release of inside pressure and as any English teacher can tell you synonym of "gun" is "firearm" and that fire part doesn't mix well with being covered in fuel and for a short period of time having most likely flammable gas jet/cloud around.
A great Axis tank that could use some love is the 5cm Pak auf Pz.Kpfw.II Sonderfahrgestell 901. The little microtiger is my baby in WT; super-low profile, high speed and wicked gun makes it a very nasty surprise when played right.
Only 2 prototypes ever built, another WoT fantasy. I love Chieftain, but WoT is garbage. It's Capture the flag - nothing like being a real tanker - please don't take any but the broadest lessons from it. Particularly on the merits and performance of vehicles - which often have been grossly altered for the sake of gameplay
I was Trained for American version of these in Alabama in 1971. When you kick it out it’s quite surprising as the whole machine rocks back. 10th Chemical Platoon, 101st, Camp Eagle Viet Nam.
Maybe I’m just wrong but with the flamethrowers mounted on the sponsens I don’t really see the need to replace the turret of the panzer II admittedly it wouldn’t be able to fully turn around but by the look of it the new turret for it doesn’t seem it can either. So why not just save time on designing a turret and have better firepower than the one they made?
You get the complication and unreliability of remote weapons in WW2, for one. "Have better firepower?" Three reasons. The gun on a Mk II was a 2m, so you are not giving much up. Second, the main weapon of a flame tank is its flame gun. Third, flame tanks operated as part of a team. If firepower was needed the other tanks could provide it
Hello Cone. I was wondering where I could find more information about the Tank you called F-1 used on the Brazilian Revolution. A quick Google search only lead me to an image hosted on the Tank Encyclopedia. The design of the Tank really intrigues me, as I'm a fan of Experimental Tank designs. Tanks that don't use the standard Turreted layout you see on more modern Tanks. I only started my Tank researching a few days ago, so I'm really new to obscure designs and concepts.
I have been reading and watching shows about WWII for 45 years and have known about the Flammpanzer for almost that long, this is the first time I have heard of the name Flamingo, so I am going to say it's a fake name. besides, it would be an unusual name for Germany to give to one of it's tanks.
Although at first the name does seem unusual Germany did use other names of animals from outside of Germany like Elefant and Löwe so Flamingo isn't entirely impossible. More than likely it's post war though given the lack of any documentation using the name.
why don't you make video about Tauchpanzer III the amphibious variant of Panzer III ? this very interesting subject of german anfbous tanks that suppose to be used in battle of Enland but those never was
hmm I suspect the flame thrower could cause minor weakening of parts of the armor. Hardened carbon steel softens slightly when heated to relatively low temperatures (like the temps you can get with propane or a conventional oven). This tempering could have created slightly weaker plates near the flame thrower barrel depending on how close the flames actually got. Not sure though since I'm no tank expert.
They could've continued the usage of flamethrowers on tanks by replacing the bow mounted MGs with flamethrowers instead of making a completely different mount like above the turret or coaxially, or something/somewhere else.
It's not hard to see why this vehicle failed. Besides the short range and thin armor, it also had a small fuel tank for the flamethrower. Compare this to more successful vehicles, like the Churchill Croc and some of the Shermans the allies used in the Pacific. Their flame range was better, their weapon's fuel capacity was much greater and even the Sherman had better armor. The Croc was just a beast.
2:11 extreme nitpicking: The video promotes Armoured Train even though it was released on 20/09/2022 but the update Pacific War was launched on 21/09/2022; even though this is an official collaboration where Gaijin could just provide the trailer one day sooner to be used in this video.
I think of flame throwers as being anti-fortification weapons. The extremely short range means they're fairly useless in field combat. If you're up against a bunker, or in the close quarters of urban warfare, they make more sense. It seems like a vehicle-mounted flame thrower has lots of drawbacks for those cases, and only minor advantages.
Wikipedia: L3 Lf flamethrower Development of the "L3 Lf" flamethrower (lancia fiamme) flame tank began in 1935. The flamethrower nozzle replaced one of the machine guns, and the flame fuel was carried in an armoured 500-litre (133 US gallons) fuel trailer towed by the vehicle. Later versions carried another 60 litres of fuel in a box-shaped tank mounted above the L3's engine compartment. The vehicle weighed 5 metric tons. The L3 Lf saw action in Abyssinia, Spain, France, the Balkans, North Africa, and Italian East Africa. From 1936 each CV/L3 company had a single L3 Lf platoon.
I'm glad to see enlisted getting a little bit of light shined on top of it in my opinion it's a very good competitor against war thunder even though it was made by gaijin as well I even bought the $35 DLC for in stallingrad just to use the flammingo pz 3 n and have a version of the panzer 4 that has a 70 mm front plate instead of the 50 due to the fact that it has tracks placed on it lol 😂 the game is like the perfect combination of battlefield war thunder and I'm not going to lie medal of Honor which I feel like needs a new opening to its franchise because the medal of Honor games were so fun back then on the PlayStation 2 lol 😂 that's all I got to say good luck to anybody reading this and have a good day
Any chance you could do a video on the ruskie cooker, you know the t-72 that keeps sending the turret 300 feet away every time one of them is hit by a RPG
Please do a "Late Obj. tanks" video with the 640 and 490 for exemple, i'd really like to see the history of these as i can't seem to find infos... i've been asking for at least a year man!
Flamingo is spelled with one m while the Flammingo is spelled with two like Flamme/Flame. I guess it was a pun coined by some operators of it like "Flamm-Ingo" but that might even have happened postwar.
I have a request. I live in Buffalo, and there's a place called Patriots and Heroes Park. (They claim) There's a Nazi tank that's situated there, but it looks like an amalgamation of things. The chassis looks kinda like a panzer IV, but the bogies are unlike any German tank I know, and the turret just looks wrong. Slightly resembles a Tiger II turret, but way too narrow. I can't find any info about it and, if possible, could you look into it
I think the "Flamingo" could be a pretty decent vehicle for niche roles beyond simply being an armored box with a machine gun and would have made an interesting export vehicle when the Pz II started to become obsolete in military use. I think it could serve as a reasonable specialist vehicle for many nations in regards to occupying zones where insurgents at best possess improvised anti-tank capabilities. Wunderwaffe it is not.
I’m literally playing enlisted as I watch this. I will also say you are wrong. Infantry is simultaneously useless and a death sentence in enlisted. The tank will either be able to fight off hoards of enemy soldiers or will die to one dude in a bush with a 1.2kg of dynamite
They had ship and wall mounted dispensers and possibly even hand units. Likely absolutely dangerous for everyone involved to be the guy using the hand unit but also extremely terrifying for the enemy.
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Hey can you drop a link with more info on the Brazilian F-1 tank you said was active around 1932?
I'm trying to find info online, but I'm getting either generic tanks or formula one racecars.
PLEASE help! 😅
It's actually very fun. A but clunky, but gritty and immersive
So far I haven't seen any cooperation, everyone is soloing :). Too bad I don't have anyone to play with.
Since I'm playing on PS4, I had to turn off cross play because I was being annihilated by wasd+mouse players. This is going to take some time to git gud.
Having been a firefighter for 5 years I definitely agree with the sentiment that burning alive is basically one of the worst ways to go. Up there with being eaten alive or something like a wood chipper.
I worked long ago in a metal factory where they made copper heating tubes A guy got his arm trapped a arm and he got pulled in I was in time to save him but he had his arm broken in many places
Close to wood chipper experience
He tried to blame me for his mistake haha
@@janvandeven906 i had the misfortune of working a scene where a guy was run over by a large industrial lawn mower. That took a long time to get past.
Well depends on from what direction ur eaten alive
@@janvandeven906 >> No good deed goes unpunished.
A wood chipper isn't a bad way to go, provided you go head first.
There's only one thing worse than being burned to death: being burned *almost* to death.
I'll agree
Oh god, reminds me of that scene from we were soldiers
I worked at a hospital for years, and many of our burn unit patients would definitely agree. Staff kept careful eyes on each patient's current mental state because suicide attempts were not unknown.
*anakin skywalker intensifies*
@@Fr1thar The guy eventually died from his wounds iirc? so he DID die, just not quickly. Horrible way to go though.
The brazillian revolution of 1932 (constitutionalist revolution) has a lot of interesting vehicles that were used in combat , such as farm trucks being used as tanks (Bob Semple style). I recommend a few minutes of google search for anyone interested in that kind of stuff
Combat trucks...
Ngl for 1932 they are proberbly quite impressive.
Also didn't us brits try and put a bunker on a bedford?
Combat trucks, improvised tanks, armoured trains, the Flammenpanzer, cavalry charges, deliberate civilian bombing, and false machineguns as psychological warfare.
The Constitutionalist revolution is all the way up there on the list of wack civil wars
Gun Trucks... A step up from the Tachankas, eh?
@@davidty2006
Aye, you did. It was when you guys were still fearing operation Seelöwe, and were concerned about fortifying this and that all over the kingdom.
@@davidty2006 wasn't that to protect airfields during the second World War?
Saw a video on the Churchill Croc, where they said sometimes the unlit ranging shot was enough to get an enemy bunker to surrender. Other times the Petard Mortar had to just crack the concrete first then the unlit ranging shot, which poured down into the bunker was enough. Being stood covered in flammable jelly with a flamethrower ranged on you was enough to break the will of all but the most fanatical
Yeah, the wet squirt. I think Bovington mentioned the Crocodile had a 27/1 surrender to kill Ratio.
Could I get the link to that?
Now that I am not suprised. The idea of being burned alive is worse then bullets
Yeah, certain painful death will do that. Can't blame them
@@frrostbitefffeathers I remember a while back a youtuber called Lindybeige (mostly a general history/whatever he feels like talking about on that day kind of channel) did a video on the Churchill Crocodile stating that going by ratio of successful missions it was actually one of the most effective tanks for the war. Where its divisions developed a routine of doing a "wet quirt" where they just spray the fuel out on to a defensive position without the flame lit, basically covering all the defending soldiers in the flammable liquid. Then followed it by a lit burst of flame in to air in front of the bunker. Which in most cased seemed to be enough to make the defenders abandon their positions and surrender. Which was likely helped by the fact that at this point in the war the British forces would have had the luxury of choosing when and where to deploy them and avoid could positions that had access to AT guns capable of penetrating armour that thick.
Towards the end of my grandfather’s life when he started relating more of the horrific thing he went through in war in North Africa. He did tell us of the time his company was ambushed by a German flamethrower tank during the German retreat after El-Alamein. The tank was waiting in Cactus field and lead platoon took heavy casualties, luckily it was stopped when someone in the company ran through the cactus field and knocked it out with grenades, the guy was pretty bloody after getting get cut by all the cactus but he saved so many.
Holy shit what an event!
You cant kill a tank with a grenade, unless you throw some into the hatch.
Maybe it was an anti tank charge, or it damaged it
@@Vincent98987 You're talking about a Mark II - I think a grenade on top of the engine compartment might inflict damage, and if it caught fire
@@Vincent98987 not sure what kind of anti-tank explosive device it was, didn’t want to press him on it.
Sometimes when I'm playing Enlisted I'm impressed by how well the enemy tankers can see even with the commander safely in the turret with the hatch closed. I can barely see what's in front of me, let alone what's around me.
But that may just be because the T-34-85's commander only gets one optic while German TCs get 5 or 7 depending on the tank.
Soviet tanks of the time were known for having terrible optics but I feel you. Sometimes I get shot and I'm like where the hell did that come from then the kill cam shows them being half way across the map through trees and shit lol
Red Orchestra 2 sadly doesn't have many tanks, but the multiplayer crews with fully rendered interiors and gory effects really does Pz. III vs T-70 and Pz. IV vs T-34 better than any other game ever.
@@XSpamDragonX Finally someone else who knows Red Orchestra…
Post scriptum tank combat you more or less need to have your commander head out. The drivers limited view and gunners magnification are nice hard limits.
@@XSpamDragonX hoping for a red orchestra 3...just not on Epic
Seems like the prefect example of how not to do make a flame tank
The Italian version was wayyy worse. On a 3 ton tankette with paper armor, towing a goofy little trailer that would get stuck on everything.
@@frostedbutts4340 ooh yeah i always forget about the Italian one. Though "tankette with paper armor" pretty much sums up half of their tanks in general where German was generally more capable when it came to tanks so the bars higher.
@@frostedbutts4340 Well, despite the Moustache of Knowledge's disdain for tanks towing trailers, the Crocodile made a good job of it - so maybe the Italians shouldn't be laughed at for the idea of a trailer on an AYV (MoK = David Fletcher of Tank Museum fame)
As a German who spent time researching WW2, I only heard flammpanzer. Also flamingo does not make sense to me
Flammen-go maybe?
@@ivankrylov6270 I seriously doubt that. Also flamingos were relatively unknown at that time. Think only one zoo had those.
@@jantschierschky3461 I'm not gonna lie... I just want a tank name be a terrible pun...
@@ivankrylov6270 horrible absolutely, not sure about the punt so. But nice try, here is a gold star for you ✨️
It’s probably one of the many fake names that tanks got after the war. Must be a pretty long list by now.
Enlisted is actually doing a really fantastic job. Constant updates, news and events. Honestly a really fun ww2 game. I'm on it every day.
Not to be confused with the Flanpanzer, which was beloved by the crew but disintegrated when wet.
That thumbnail makes me imagine this thing running around, spraying two jets of flame wildly in all directions while laughing maniacally.
Funfact:
The soviets had an flamethrower variant of the KV-1 (not the KV-8, there were multible) that was actually designed to attack with chemical weapons
Very funny 🤣🤣🤣
Now, seriously: that's so brutal, it's like they took the idea from something like warhammer
Funfact: All soviet flamethrower tanks could use chemical weapons in theory and that is why all flamethrower tanks are marked as chemical tanks. This structure remained until end of USSR , where reports of fuel air munitions usage due to units names led to reports of USSR using chemical weapons. The name of those units were "Aerosol countermeasure units". Also USSR made Flamethrower tanks in 1932 ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%A2-26
I remember reading the Memoirs of a German conscript who had to fight in the battle of Seelow Heights and subsequently the battle of Berlin. There is a small bit where his unit moves through an area being guarded by a flame tank. When they are sent back during the night the flame tank is a massive ball of fire and all the buildings around it are burning as it erupted.
Germany was actually the first country to use the flamethrowers in 1915-1918. German army captain Richard Fieldler and also another guy who invented the first flamethrower in 1901 but yet during World War 1 in 1914 it wasn't actually used till next year 1915. Firemen in Germany was actually the one who used the notorious weapons and they wouldn't be taken alive as prisoners. They actually used gas mask with a death's head insignia on his sleeve. A soldier who carried it around was actually limited range and few pounds of fuel but yet a tank flamethrower can actually carry hundreds of gallons with a greater range in Second World War. Flamethrowers were actually used in the Vietnam War. The Germans actually called it flammenwerfer.
I think part of the entire "tanks can take incredible damage and keep you safe" comes from things like the 1 tiger tank that ran threw a Soviet occupied town. It took something like 70 major hits and thousands of small arms hits and made it out. It was however unusable after that. DID save the crew and the company commander though
Dam that tank did one he'll of a survival
Unrelated but I do have a tiger in enlisted. And there was a time when I was ambushed by a m5 tank and pinned by a m8 tank. Although I survived and took both out, i did lose 2 crews while doing suicidal attacks(that is going out and blowing one up). I even had thoughts of ditching the tank.
As usual, an excellent video. I really like when drawings or blueprints are shown. I get to hit the pause, do a little zoom and voile', in- depth views of the subject matter.
12:55 - I love how the flame-shot impacts a weed a couple of times yet the weed remains unaffected. No bend, no burn.
Enlisted is just a microtransaction riddled version of Red Orchestra 2. That game has the GREATEST multiplayer tank crew gameplay alongside and against player infantry, and enemy player-crewed tanks. You push and some soviet with a satchel jumps up from a crater and nukes your whole crew.
Tanks need infantry support for this exact reason. As true in these types of games as it is in real life.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 enlisted tanks main gun also gives infantry near it a concussion, rendering them unable to accurately fire for a while.
Also hunting tanks in enlisted is satisfying.
I’m so happy you are getting sponsored by enlisted , it is the best WW2 shooter game on the market
Red Orchestra holds that title
Also the Italians had a flamethrower tank, the L3/35 lf
Lol poor l3 got bad luck there
Honestly I feel the worst part of being burned to death is if you almost dodge the flamethrower. Getting hit directly would probably dramatically reduce how long you were alive, compared to if only half of you were on fire, and you could run around screaming.
"Flamingo", like "Hetzer" and "Bison" was a generic name given by the German military to a vehicle type. The name focused on the type rather than the actual chassis used. Good video.
Wrong the hetzer name is made up
Ah, enlisted. A game where I can sit down and relax.
I lied. Tunisia is my main campaign and I just keep getting angrier send help
For a campaign that is memed as the one that nobody plays. There is currently a lot of high level players.
@@AKX-DTGRSMP from my experience: the problem is less of population and the sheer amount of games where axis is a mix of low and high ranks(mostly lows)... facing full teams of high rank allied players 70-80% of matches. Also 1000pd bombs are way too strong for this campaign, due to the more open nature of North Africa.
Also the map with pits can kiss my ass.
Also also no L3's.
you: send dudes
her: don't you mean nudes
you: no I'm in a battle I need men
Flamingo name comes from the silly turrets on the front resembled bird heads and the flames combined to give it the Flamingo.
Source: group of German tankers from 60s who's parents were Panzer crew I met in service at a museum.
It was theoretically sound to build a massive defensive line across France in an anticipation for a similar war to ww1 all the while relying on the Belgiums to defend the north
i would love to see a vid about the L3/33 LF if this trend about flamethrower tanks continues
With a flaming range of only 35 meters, that's not much more than a handheld flamethrower.
You could also easily throw grenades or rush to the tank, hidden by the undergrowth, and plant an explosive on the hull.
The Allies used a Churchill tank to house the 'Crocodile' flamethrower, which gave it infinitely more armour protection and it could flame as far as 80 yards or more than double the range of the Panzer II Flamm.
I played this tank on an old war game, 'Close Combat: The Eastern Front' from 1999 and they never referred to it by any other name than the regular one.
Crazy to see those men sprinting with the flamethrower in their back. The thing weighs 90 lbs when it's full.
The American Army in the pacific theater during WW2 also used light tanks as flame tanks, but usually they were close-flanked on either side by regular tanks to support them, and/or kept friendly infantry very close by to guard the flame tank forward progress….
1:04 Ah yes, the number of tanks i blew up with engineer's demolition charge in Battlefield 1942 i can't remember
Flame tanks have a use, but that is very narrow and specialized. Urban and forest combat are where they prove most useful, but the cost of fuel to feed these machines was high. It would be good for rapid building clearing operations, if you did not care for the collateral damage.
The term as I understand it stems from the German word for flame.
Flammen, sounds close to the start of “Flamingo”. And the command for German Flame troops to push forward during assaults was “Flammen Gehn!” Of “Flame Go!” Directly translated.
(It actually means “Flametrooper forward!”)
And apparently this when heard by British and Australian troops sounded like “Flamingo”.
There is also the basic understanding that “Gehen” means “to go” so shortening this hearing “Flamen Gehn” would colloquialize out into “Flame Go” or “Flamingo”
At first I was like "only 35m of range? That's nothing!" but then I thought about that and shit that is a lot of fire. But still very poor range against other tanks, for obvious reasons, but god just a 35m radius semicircle of flame in front would be terrifying
Flamethrowers, great ideas on paper but not that good in practice.
It's often overlooked how much support flamethrowers need in general, not only do you need to get them the extra fuel to spray around but also the gas to spray that fuel or you need to get crafty with the fuel. Now that you have a bit more logistics to solve, let's add that the war is often quite dirty business and one thing you don't want your long-range fryer to have is a malfunction and one thing dirt is good at is to get everywhere where it shouldn't get. Maintenance is the key to keep things flowing but then you get the other problem of war, there's usually people who want to shoot you too and be it in a tank or on a back of your fellow soldier, instant long-range skincare unit will handle all your blackheads and pimples away quite soon if the pressurized fuel tank was to suffer sudden release of inside pressure and as any English teacher can tell you synonym of "gun" is "firearm" and that fire part doesn't mix well with being covered in fuel and for a short period of time having most likely flammable gas jet/cloud around.
I think that light armour + big tanks of flammable liquid is a recipe for disaster. Definitely don't wanna skimp on armour for a flame tank.
Panzer 1 F with flamethrowers sounds like it would be a great vehicle
I have Always loved the flame-thrower so putting it in a tank great 👍
A great Axis tank that could use some love is the 5cm Pak auf Pz.Kpfw.II Sonderfahrgestell 901.
The little microtiger is my baby in WT; super-low profile, high speed and wicked gun makes it a very nasty surprise when played right.
Only 2 prototypes ever built, another WoT fantasy. I love Chieftain, but WoT is garbage. It's Capture the flag - nothing like being a real tanker - please don't take any but the broadest lessons from it. Particularly on the merits and performance of vehicles - which often have been grossly altered for the sake of gameplay
I can only assume that the person who first referred to the Flammpanzer as the Flamingo thought they were being clever somehow, but they weren't.
You should add links to where you got your info as well as where your clips came from. Especially that footage of the WW2 flame tank at 2:38
This is a Flammenwerfer, it werfs Flammen.
I was Trained for American version of these in Alabama in 1971. When you kick it out it’s quite surprising as the whole machine rocks back. 10th Chemical Platoon, 101st, Camp Eagle Viet Nam.
Just found this Channel, love it
Yes Admiral General, the rockets on this channel are pointy!
Greek fire was probably before WW1.
"hans! Get ze flammenwerfer"
"nein we have ze better flammenwerfer"
Flammenwerfer:
Maybe I’m just wrong but with the flamethrowers mounted on the sponsens I don’t really see the need to replace the turret of the panzer II admittedly it wouldn’t be able to fully turn around but by the look of it the new turret for it doesn’t seem it can either. So why not just save time on designing a turret and have better firepower than the one they made?
You get the complication and unreliability of remote weapons in WW2, for one. "Have better firepower?" Three reasons. The gun on a Mk II was a 2m, so you are not giving much up. Second, the main weapon of a flame tank is its flame gun. Third, flame tanks operated as part of a team. If firepower was needed the other tanks could provide it
Hello Cone.
I was wondering where I could find more information about the Tank you called F-1 used on the Brazilian Revolution.
A quick Google search only lead me to an image hosted on the Tank Encyclopedia.
The design of the Tank really intrigues me, as I'm a fan of Experimental Tank designs.
Tanks that don't use the standard Turreted layout you see on more modern Tanks.
I only started my Tank researching a few days ago, so I'm really new to obscure designs and concepts.
I have never heard for referencing the Panzer Brand as „FLAMINGO“ before IN MY LIFE
I have been reading and watching shows about WWII for 45 years and have known about the Flammpanzer for almost that long, this is the first time I have heard of the name Flamingo, so I am going to say it's a fake name. besides, it would be an unusual name for Germany to give to one of it's tanks.
Yes its a post war term
Although at first the name does seem unusual Germany did use other names of animals from outside of Germany like Elefant and Löwe so Flamingo isn't entirely impossible. More than likely it's post war though given the lack of any documentation using the name.
@@ConeOfArc True but it sounds more like what the British would name an Avian class destroyer than a German tank.😅
I just knew this would of been sponsored by enlisted.
why don't you make video about Tauchpanzer III the amphibious variant of Panzer III ?
this very interesting subject of german anfbous tanks that suppose to be used in battle of Enland but those never was
hmm I suspect the flame thrower could cause minor weakening of parts of the armor. Hardened carbon steel softens slightly when heated to relatively low temperatures (like the temps you can get with propane or a conventional oven). This tempering could have created slightly weaker plates near the flame thrower barrel depending on how close the flames actually got. Not sure though since I'm no tank expert.
there was also the Hetzer Flammenwerfer tbh
In the Pacific, flamethrowers probably killed more Japanese hiding in caves. Asphyxiation is also a slow death.
Twin flamers and the MG34 at head level... it looks like it would be great for a zombie apocalypse, but that's about it.
They could've continued the usage of flamethrowers on tanks by replacing the bow mounted MGs with flamethrowers instead of making a completely different mount like above the turret or coaxially, or something/somewhere else.
It's not hard to see why this vehicle failed. Besides the short range and thin armor, it also had a small fuel tank for the flamethrower. Compare this to more successful vehicles, like the Churchill Croc and some of the Shermans the allies used in the Pacific. Their flame range was better, their weapon's fuel capacity was much greater and even the Sherman had better armor. The Croc was just a beast.
Interestingly enough the most successful German flame vehicle was the flame sd kfz 251/16
British tanks are a mood
2:11 extreme nitpicking: The video promotes Armoured Train even though it was released on 20/09/2022 but the update Pacific War was launched on 21/09/2022; even though this is an official collaboration where Gaijin could just provide the trailer one day sooner to be used in this video.
It was called Flam(m)ingo because of the Word Game with the German Word "Flammen" for Flames and Flamingo
imagine my shock when i bought the tank in enlisted, watched this vid, then got an add for the game. classic.
Can you please make a video about the l3/33 with a flametrower?
Italian Simp Tank | War Thunder L3/33 CC , made by ConeOfArc 2 years ago...
Hans not only got the flammenwefer, he also got the panzer division
Would it be possible to request a Churchill "Black Prince" or Excelsior cursed by design? I quite like British tanks and would like more info
I think of flame throwers as being anti-fortification weapons. The extremely short range means they're fairly useless in field combat. If you're up against a bunker, or in the close quarters of urban warfare, they make more sense.
It seems like a vehicle-mounted flame thrower has lots of drawbacks for those cases, and only minor advantages.
FLAME ON!
I would like to know how you play on other maps of enlisted i keep getting nothing but Tunisia or italy
Wikipedia:
L3 Lf flamethrower
Development of the "L3 Lf" flamethrower (lancia fiamme) flame tank began in 1935. The flamethrower nozzle replaced one of the machine guns, and the flame fuel was carried in an armoured 500-litre (133 US gallons) fuel trailer towed by the vehicle. Later versions carried another 60 litres of fuel in a box-shaped tank mounted above the L3's engine compartment. The vehicle weighed 5 metric tons.
The L3 Lf saw action in Abyssinia, Spain, France, the Balkans, North Africa, and Italian East Africa. From 1936 each CV/L3 company had a single L3 Lf platoon.
I'm glad to see enlisted getting a little bit of light shined on top of it in my opinion it's a very good competitor against war thunder even though it was made by gaijin as well I even bought the $35 DLC for in stallingrad just to use the flammingo pz 3 n and have a version of the panzer 4 that has a 70 mm front plate instead of the 50 due to the fact that it has tracks placed on it lol 😂 the game is like the perfect combination of battlefield war thunder and I'm not going to lie medal of Honor which I feel like needs a new opening to its franchise because the medal of Honor games were so fun back then on the PlayStation 2 lol 😂 that's all I got to say good luck to anybody reading this and have a good day
Any chance you could do a video on the ruskie cooker, you know the t-72 that keeps sending the turret 300 feet away every time one of them is hit by a RPG
It's called the Flamingo because it can Flamme und go
I wouldnt want to be anywhere near a Flamm tank if it gets hit by an enemy AT shell.
are you planning to do a Video about the panther kf51?
Please do a "Late Obj. tanks" video with the 640 and 490 for exemple, i'd really like to see the history of these as i can't seem to find infos... i've been asking for at least a year man!
Bruh This tank is a fking horror in Enlisted Stalingrad mode
Flamingo is spelled with one m while the Flammingo is spelled with two like Flamme/Flame. I guess it was a pun coined by some operators of it like "Flamm-Ingo" but that might even have happened postwar.
I like the original cursed by design intro
I have a request. I live in Buffalo, and there's a place called Patriots and Heroes Park. (They claim) There's a Nazi tank that's situated there, but it looks like an amalgamation of things. The chassis looks kinda like a panzer IV, but the bogies are unlike any German tank I know, and the turret just looks wrong. Slightly resembles a Tiger II turret, but way too narrow. I can't find any info about it and, if possible, could you look into it
That is a mock up, not a real tank in buffalo
Holy crap this place looks cheesy. You'd think they could have found a real American tank instead..
That's just a complete plastic mockup.
I think the "Flamingo" could be a pretty decent vehicle for niche roles beyond simply being an armored box with a machine gun and would have made an interesting export vehicle when the Pz II started to become obsolete in military use.
I think it could serve as a reasonable specialist vehicle for many nations in regards to occupying zones where insurgents at best possess improvised anti-tank capabilities. Wunderwaffe it is not.
As a terror weapon? 10/10. As something you want to be anywhere near when it's taking anti-tank fire? 0/10.
The A7V had a flame variant
Bolt Action represents the harsh reality of using Flamethrowers, roll a dice after your fired and on a 1 you run out of fuel...
Didn’t the Germans also have that flame thrower panzer 3
kudos to the British spy convincing the fuel starving Germans to build Flamethrower troops
Great vid I just wish enlisted wasn't so poorly monetized
Ze flammenwerfer, it werfs flammen.
Nice pun at the end
**pulls out Glock 19*
We got ourselves a bot
The design is very human
What a big flammer.
I’m literally playing enlisted as I watch this. I will also say you are wrong. Infantry is simultaneously useless and a death sentence in enlisted. The tank will either be able to fight off hoards of enemy soldiers or will die to one dude in a bush with a 1.2kg of dynamite
You are wrong
Thats why tanks are defended by infantry
>he doesn't play in a 4 stack of friends and use the king tiger
@@nunya5132 friends? Tiger?
@@janvandeven906 in enlisted. Not irl
@@digitaal_boog Thats where you got your info from yes so be silent
If you want information on German armour, such as the Panz.I flamer then you could reach out to Hilary Doyle at the Tank Museum, Bovington.
Cone.
Most deaths from flamethrowers were indirect deaths.
Flamethrowers DON'T explode when shot.
"Hanz, get ze flammenwherfer!"
03:23
Is that from Enlisted?
Can’t wait to use this in my Hoi4 templates.
Fun Fact: Flamethrowers existed in the Middle Ages, it was called "Greek Fire" and was used by the Byzantines to great effect..
They had ship and wall mounted dispensers and possibly even hand units. Likely absolutely dangerous for everyone involved to be the guy using the hand unit but also extremely terrifying for the enemy.
Think they lost the recipe for greek fire when byzants fell, it was the burning pigs that got you in the middle ages....
And to this day, nobody actually knows what Greek Fire was made from because its manufacture was a state secret of the Byzantine Empire.
Greek (500 bc to200 bc) ...byzantine 600 ad -1200 ad) ..and middle ages (1300 ad - 1500 ad) ...sure..same fire for every century..
Didn't knew flamethrowers were funny
I know I'm late but I play enlisted and can confirm when I play a tank I get killed by infantry more often than other tanks especially on urban maps
What I think is that design served the NOD brotherhood well.
Earth, air, fire, wind all are mastered by the great avatar, until the fire nation attack, only the avatar mastering all 4 elements can stop the fire nation , when the world needed him the most, he vanished
Could you please make a vid about St vz. 39? It was a czechoslovak medium tank from the beginning of the second world war