This + a 7-string would be great for different tunings on one guitar. Drop G would be a nice base tuning for it, you can get it up to E standard by shifting up two half-steps and ignoring the 7th string, or down to Drop E by shifting down three half-steps. The $400 price is pretty high but that costs about as much as one mid-range guitar, so it seems worth it for all the features it has.
I have one. actually you need 2 guitars one for standard and one for drop tuning which covers everything. By the way there is kind of a geek that after the 4'th semitone the pedal starts to get dirty. Well good morning, you need to use an EQ pedal with it just like you'd use with your normal drop C or drop B guitar. This device is NOT STANDALONE!!...You need a proper eq pedal connected right after the DROP...
One use that made me go out and get the Whammy DT (and Drop pedal as backup) was playing in a group where we had a piano player who also sang primary vocals-there were numerous instances when a particular song was easier for him to sing in a different key, capoing was an option, but loooooved this use far better with Whammy DT- even put letter of the key above each down shift LED as it would be starting from standard tuning, changing the key, the song was no problem at all
Finally someone plays some Wes Borland on one of these so I can see if it will work, thanks! I want to play some Bizkit songs, and was looking at the DT Drop, but without a floyd, cant play some of the best riffs, like Hot Dog.
I was looking up the Digitech Drop tuning pedal and sadly they seem to be all out of stock. While browsing around, I found this Drop Tune + Whammy Pedal Combo for half the price on the internet. Can't wait to get my hands on it!!
@@harls7317 I totally get the feeling. I was almost close to spending $400 on this just because I really wanted the drop tune effect (Digitech has a pedal that only drops tuning, but those are out of stock and I don't want to wait months for a pedal), thankfully a bit of shopping around yielded a good result.
I've got the drop pedal but getting this next month because it can shift the pitch up as well. Will make it easier for gigs so I'll only need to take my 6 and 7 string with me. I'm also really looking forward to playing around with that whammy to add to my arsenal 🤘🤘🤘
I was wanting a whammy bar and instead of getting a Floyd rose or new guitar I went the good ol pedal route and this thing is bad ass…use thomann and you can get one for like 60%-70% off or something ridiculous.
yes there is something this pedal cut do. fit on my pedalboard! it's massive. I have one and absolutely love it but I cannot fit it on my board in a practical way. I ended up having to purchase the ehx pitchfork+ and a mission expression pedal. this way I can split up the bulk. now I have a wah and expression pedal side by side and the brains of the expression pedal can fit anywhere on my pedalboard. i would say the pitchfork+ is a better quality than the whammy but I still prefer the whammy for its interface and simplicity. the pitchfork+ blows the whammy away in terms of what it can do and how it sounds but operating it is like trying to program a spaceship from scratch. the whammy is way easier than that and is more important to me than all the features. but fitting on my board is the very most important factor. I'm stuck in a rock and a hard place. I want to love my whammy dt but its footprint won't let me.
Very good video. Just one doubt: In an "extreme" case, with a 6 string guitar if I want to go down to standard A, do you think it would sound better lowering the Drop to 7 semitones (with the guitar previously in standard E) or would it sound more natural/fuller lowering it by itself? 5 semitones with the Drop (in this case with the guitar tuned in standard D)? PS: I also forgot to add what opinion you have about the "Shift Up" option to raise several tones in certain songs (because for example my guitar does not have 24 frets and it is an impediment to play several solos) and if it would be better to use the part of the Whammy or the part of the "Shift Up". And the same in the case of lowering the pitch, I was wondering if the Whammy sounded better or in this case the Drop would sound more appropriate. Thank you so much.
Hey! Sorry for the late reply. So, in my experience. The drop sounds GOOD until 3 semitones. That is when you can clearly here the digital sound. In a live mix, I do not think it will matter, but it depends on you.
I love what this pedal does. But I use the Line 6 HX Effects to do the same stuff. Does the same job, does it just as well ever since they polyphonic update after a former Digitech designer joined Line 6 and it costs more or less the same and does WAY more.
@@wrashchild Oh absolutely, If there was a smaller Whammy I'd have one on my mini pedal only pedalboard in a heartbeat. But its crazy the number of people who don't actually know that the Helix series has caught up in terms of quality of the effect. They still think Digitech are the only option and struggle to justify the cost for a single pedal. I'll never knock it for people who are just into pedals and can afford them. More just sharing for people who feel they can't afford the price of a Whammy for a single pedal. Plus there are people who own Helix units and don't know it can even do pitchshifting. I have a mate who had his mind blown when he realised my pitchshifting came from my HX Effects. He thought I had a Whammy. He then got me to show him how my patch is setup so he can make it on his Helix LT.
@@RainMakeR_Workshop Line6 will always fight an uphill battle because of things like the POD. They were innovators but at the same time they’ve got a reputation as low quality when the Helix is far from that. You know how snobby guitar people are. They’d rather spend the money on Quad cortex and Axe Fx when the Helix can do just as well for a much reasonable price. I use the Helix Native software for most guitar effects.
@@wrashchild Yeah, people are idiots like that. Sure, Line 6 had some crappy sounds in the past. But times have moved on and so has their tech. Long gone are the days of their red kidney bean that sounds like an angry wasp. Their modelling now sounds great. And to be fair, their effects have always been good. I had a POD back in the day and whilst I never really cared for their distortions, I loved their effects. Plus its not like anyone else's multi effects distortions were better at the time. Sure, new tech came along that was better than what they had with the POD series. But the Helix series is a completely different beast. Plus people who hate on Line 6 for their distortion could always do what I did and get the HX Effects which doesn't include the amp modelling (didn't need that feature as I have a ToneX pedal). To be honest, I'd fairly surprised if people using stuff like the Quad Cortex and Axe-Fx are stuck in that mindset of the past when it come to Line 6. I'd expect that more from snobby traditionalists who think amps HAVE to be tube amps and pedals HAVE to be analogue pedal and guitars HAVE to be American made Fender or Gibson to sound good.
I think drop C is my favourite in general. So it was into the Whammy and then the EVH 5150 EL34. Into the two notes torpedo captor X with York audio impulses. Into the Apollo twin
@@wrashchild coolbeans 🤟 it is a fun tuning 🧐 oh I was wondering how you set the whammy for like Korn, Limp Bizkit and Tom Morello sound's? I think seen octave up for Korn and a dive bomb for L.B. Read somewhere Wes Borland lowers it an octave at times like a trumpet player. Nowadays he's got a whammy bar on a guitar for certain riffs.
@@wrashchildsounds really excellent, I'm not really a metal player, who would you recommend listening wise as great modern metal riff writers post 2000s to learn that kind of style of playing. I learn best from listening. You make that pedal sound great btw.
@@wrashchild thanks for that info, I'm always interested in listening and learning from unfamiliar guitar styles when I hear something I like. And your playing on the video was one of those moments. Thanks again.
I have that pedal, too. Especially chord voicings sound terrible, even tuned down or up only half a step. Is it just me oder does that occur in your rig, too. Would be nice to get a reply, thanks.
Are you playing with distortion or clean? I think for high gain stuff that I’ve used it does sound a little digital but it blends in nice with the other instruments.
@@wrashchild Tried both, it seems like I have a unit with own AI…some days it sounds good, some days it‘s horrible…and (could be imagination) it seems that the sound is better if I use headphones directly out of my Ampero instead of using an amp and cab…anyway thanks for your respond.
For a beginner who wants to play drop tuning songs without owning multiple guitars, would the original Digitech Drop pedal be better or would the big one be better in the long run?
I think the Whammy DT is best utilised with a midi pedal so you can access all the features. But just for drop tuning I’d go with the Drop. But the whammy is fun and creative
@@wrashchild I do like the idea of doing whammy stuff, I’ve just seen how Tom Morello used one…with that in mind, do I go for the basic drop and adding the whammy later or the full package now?
I have a few questions, can it take a guitar that is tuned to e standard and take it down to drop b or a, I really want a hard tail guitar but i want the whammy bar for dive bombs and tricks, does it give a whammy drop for those tricks?
@@wrashchild just wondering between the 4 and 5. I ended up buying the 5 for my son yesterday. HE'S THRILLED! Tested it out this morning. Pretty cool pedal!
I have bought a Digitech Drop and i hear two sounds the notes dropped and the original ones , like an ugly harmonization. They're not from guitar cause i play with high volume or with earphones. The wrong notes came from the amp itself...i have to return it
So this thing can tune up, too? 😅 Sure, capos are a thing, but a) they require retuning and b) they shorten your scale length. Which is probably why I’ve never seen a metal band use a capo on any of their riffs - even though I do know a hard-rock song that was recorded in F minor, clearly using the open E string (Ten’s “The Name of the Rose”). So I assume they actually tuned up for that one? Because it was recorded back in the 90s, when this pedal certainly didn’t exist yet.
@@wrashchild whatever the hell Korn plays in probably Lol I need to get that pedal for sure. I love almost every genre and tuning down and up all the time sucks
Great video, major GAS for your guitars now! Just waiting on delivery for my Whammy DT - do you notice any latency? Subscribed despite the Liverpool mug…
I'm still a beginner. I have just completed my first year on electric guitar and bass guitar. But I already have 5 electric and 2 bass guitars 🙃 Two of my electric guitars are Floyd Rose and one is Evertune. To be honest, I haven't gotten into the technical side of guitars yet. So I have always used my Floyd and Evertune guitars in E standard songs, but I have always wondered about their performance in other tunings. I ordered Whammy DT today and I'm super curious about its performance now. If I can use my guitars in such as D standard, Eb standard just with this pedal, this will be among the most legendary products I have ever purchased.
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I’ve had one of these bad boys for years, considering how old the tech is they sound and track great in my opinion.
the older models are actually extremely desirable and people pay top dollar for them.
This + a 7-string would be great for different tunings on one guitar.
Drop G would be a nice base tuning for it, you can get it up to E standard by shifting up two half-steps and ignoring the 7th string, or down to Drop E by shifting down three half-steps.
The $400 price is pretty high but that costs about as much as one mid-range guitar, so it seems worth it for all the features it has.
Great points! Now I want a 7 string lol
This plus a 7 string = never needing another guitar ever again
@@Patchichos doesn't matter... you'll buy one anyway/
Clean cut and wearing a tropical shirt all while playing some of the wickedest metal! Love it! subscribed
I have one. actually you need 2 guitars one for standard and one for drop tuning which covers everything. By the way there is kind of a geek that after the 4'th semitone the pedal starts to get dirty. Well good morning, you need to use an EQ pedal with it just like you'd use with your normal drop C or drop B guitar. This device is NOT STANDALONE!!...You need a proper eq pedal connected right after the DROP...
One use that made me go out and get the Whammy DT (and Drop pedal as backup) was playing in a group where we had a piano player who also sang primary vocals-there were numerous instances when a particular song was easier for him to sing in a different key, capoing was an option, but loooooved this use far better with Whammy DT- even put letter of the key above each down shift LED as it would be starting from standard tuning, changing the key, the song was no problem at all
Only video I needed to decide if this pedal is for me.
Thank you!
Finally someone plays some Wes Borland on one of these so I can see if it will work, thanks! I want to play some Bizkit songs, and was looking at the DT Drop, but without a floyd, cant play some of the best riffs, like Hot Dog.
I was looking up the Digitech Drop tuning pedal and sadly they seem to be all out of stock. While browsing around, I found this Drop Tune + Whammy Pedal Combo for half the price on the internet. Can't wait to get my hands on it!!
Hell yeah, I paid $400 for mine on Amazon unfortunately 😭
@@harls7317 I totally get the feeling. I was almost close to spending $400 on this just because I really wanted the drop tune effect (Digitech has a pedal that only drops tuning, but those are out of stock and I don't want to wait months for a pedal), thankfully a bit of shopping around yielded a good result.
My drop just arrived and it’s amazing. Didn’t need the whammy since I already have an Xotic wah but either way. 🤘🏼
This is a great video, it has convinced me to definitely get this pedal.
Big ups to you playing a mastodon riff right out of the gate!
I wouldn't use all the features on this but I definitely would use it for a quick whole step down tuning from e and also those octaves are pretty cool
Great demo! Glad I found this!
Sick riffs!
First video I found that made the whammy sound good. Nice job!
I've got the drop pedal but getting this next month because it can shift the pitch up as well. Will make it easier for gigs so I'll only need to take my 6 and 7 string with me. I'm also really looking forward to playing around with that whammy to add to my arsenal 🤘🤘🤘
I was wanting a whammy bar and instead of getting a Floyd rose or new guitar I went the good ol pedal route and this thing is bad ass…use thomann and you can get one for like 60%-70% off or something ridiculous.
This sounds sick
Okay I see its like a capo so from standard tuning one half step down would be Eb . Thank You
yes there is something this pedal cut do. fit on my pedalboard! it's massive. I have one and absolutely love it but I cannot fit it on my board in a practical way. I ended up having to purchase the ehx pitchfork+ and a mission expression pedal. this way I can split up the bulk. now I have a wah and expression pedal side by side and the brains of the expression pedal can fit anywhere on my pedalboard.
i would say the pitchfork+ is a better quality than the whammy but I still prefer the whammy for its interface and simplicity. the pitchfork+ blows the whammy away in terms of what it can do and how it sounds but operating it is like trying to program a spaceship from scratch. the whammy is way easier than that and is more important to me than all the features. but fitting on my board is the very most important factor.
I'm stuck in a rock and a hard place. I want to love my whammy dt but its footprint won't let me.
All good points. The size certainly is a factor.
Very good video.
Just one doubt:
In an "extreme" case, with a 6 string guitar if I want to go down to standard A, do you think it would sound better lowering the Drop to 7 semitones (with the guitar previously in standard E) or would it sound more natural/fuller lowering it by itself? 5 semitones with the Drop (in this case with the guitar tuned in standard D)?
PS: I also forgot to add what opinion you have about the "Shift Up" option to raise several tones in certain songs (because for example my guitar does not have 24 frets and it is an impediment to play several solos) and if it would be better to use the part of the Whammy or the part of the "Shift Up". And the same in the case of lowering the pitch, I was wondering if the Whammy sounded better or in this case the Drop would sound more appropriate.
Thank you so much.
Hey! Sorry for the late reply. So, in my experience. The drop sounds GOOD until 3 semitones. That is when you can clearly here the digital sound. In a live mix, I do not think it will matter, but it depends on you.
Totally agree with this right here.@@wrashchild
I enjoyed this. I kept banging my head. You good man - i'm gona go on marketplace now
Glad to help with your neck problems. It’s a great pedal!
I love what this pedal does. But I use the Line 6 HX Effects to do the same stuff. Does the same job, does it just as well ever since they polyphonic update after a former Digitech designer joined Line 6 and it costs more or less the same and does WAY more.
Big fan of helix myself. You are correct but pedal people will be pedal people.
Always a market for stuff to put on pedalboards rather than multi.
@@wrashchild Oh absolutely, If there was a smaller Whammy I'd have one on my mini pedal only pedalboard in a heartbeat. But its crazy the number of people who don't actually know that the Helix series has caught up in terms of quality of the effect. They still think Digitech are the only option and struggle to justify the cost for a single pedal.
I'll never knock it for people who are just into pedals and can afford them. More just sharing for people who feel they can't afford the price of a Whammy for a single pedal.
Plus there are people who own Helix units and don't know it can even do pitchshifting. I have a mate who had his mind blown when he realised my pitchshifting came from my HX Effects. He thought I had a Whammy. He then got me to show him how my patch is setup so he can make it on his Helix LT.
@@RainMakeR_Workshop Line6 will always fight an uphill battle because of things like the POD. They were innovators but at the same time they’ve got a reputation as low quality when the Helix is far from that. You know how snobby guitar people are. They’d rather spend the money on Quad cortex and Axe Fx when the Helix can do just as well for a much reasonable price.
I use the Helix Native software for most guitar effects.
@@wrashchild Yeah, people are idiots like that. Sure, Line 6 had some crappy sounds in the past. But times have moved on and so has their tech.
Long gone are the days of their red kidney bean that sounds like an angry wasp. Their modelling now sounds great. And to be fair, their effects have always been good. I had a POD back in the day and whilst I never really cared for their distortions, I loved their effects. Plus its not like anyone else's multi effects distortions were better at the time. Sure, new tech came along that was better than what they had with the POD series. But the Helix series is a completely different beast.
Plus people who hate on Line 6 for their distortion could always do what I did and get the HX Effects which doesn't include the amp modelling (didn't need that feature as I have a ToneX pedal). To be honest, I'd fairly surprised if people using stuff like the Quad Cortex and Axe-Fx are stuck in that mindset of the past when it come to Line 6.
I'd expect that more from snobby traditionalists who think amps HAVE to be tube amps and pedals HAVE to be analogue pedal and guitars HAVE to be American made Fender or Gibson to sound good.
What kind of guitar you playing
Lovely demo. Can this pedal be used as a wah as well?
Unfortunately not
Cool video, but unfortunately there's a huge latency with the drop tuning, unless I am doing something wrong ? or not doing something ? Cheers. Ed
That riff sounds tough in drop C for some reason 👿 Is there a rundown on what settings your using for different sounds?
I think drop C is my favourite in general.
So it was into the Whammy and then the EVH 5150 EL34. Into the two notes torpedo captor X with York audio impulses. Into the Apollo twin
@@wrashchild coolbeans 🤟 it is a fun tuning 🧐 oh I was wondering how you set the whammy for like Korn, Limp Bizkit and Tom Morello sound's? I think seen octave up for Korn and a dive bomb for L.B. Read somewhere Wes Borland lowers it an octave at times like a trumpet player. Nowadays he's got a whammy bar on a guitar for certain riffs.
Could this pedal help me? I play a 24 frets solo on a 22 frets guitar. Cannot reach the note by bending a hole step
I think so. Just hit the note’s lower octave, hit the whammy and it will go up.
But you could probably just get the regular whammy for that too.
Very nice playing dude. What was the riff you played at 2 minutes onwards?
Original riff! Thanks mate
@@wrashchildsounds really excellent, I'm not really a metal player, who would you recommend listening wise as great modern metal riff writers post 2000s to learn that kind of style of playing. I learn best from listening. You make that pedal sound great btw.
@@deadlydanton I think I’m inspired by recent Mastodon and Gojira in terms of this kind of style. Check out some playlists and find some similar bands
@@wrashchild thanks for that info, I'm always interested in listening and learning from unfamiliar guitar styles when I hear something I like. And your playing on the video was one of those moments. Thanks again.
I still haven't gotten one after all these years! Great video and explanation of the Whammy!
It’s a great tool for sure. Let’s down tune Some Drop D strats and chug some Downfall of Christ Louis!
I have that pedal, too. Especially chord voicings sound terrible, even tuned down or up only half a step. Is it just me oder does that occur in your rig, too. Would be nice to get a reply, thanks.
Are you playing with distortion or clean? I think for high gain stuff that I’ve used it does sound a little digital but it blends in nice with the other instruments.
@@wrashchild Tried both, it seems like I have a unit with own AI…some days it sounds good, some days it‘s horrible…and (could be imagination) it seems that the sound is better if I use headphones directly out of my Ampero instead of using an amp and cab…anyway thanks for your respond.
For a beginner who wants to play drop tuning songs without owning multiple guitars, would the original Digitech Drop pedal be better or would the big one be better in the long run?
I think the Whammy DT is best utilised with a midi pedal so you can access all the features. But just for drop tuning I’d go with the Drop. But the whammy is fun and creative
@@wrashchild I do like the idea of doing whammy stuff, I’ve just seen how Tom Morello used one…with that in mind, do I go for the basic drop and adding the whammy later or the full package now?
Nice video, Nice pedal. Could You play "Hot dog" of Limp Bizkit With that pedal? 🤔.
It could be possible🤔
I have a few questions, can it take a guitar that is tuned to e standard and take it down to drop b or a, I really want a hard tail guitar but i want the whammy bar for dive bombs and tricks, does it give a whammy drop for those tricks?
Absolutely. But it’s really up to you if you think it sounds good. My experience is say 3 octaves is the limit of it sounding good
could you tell me which pedals are you using after the whammy? distortions? noise gates? please :)
Everything is listed in the description.
Nice demo nice ax ..subcribed
no way bro pulled out a mastodon riff. great playing bro
That’s the first thing I play when I pick up any guitar! Hope you’re good Jeff
Having trouble picking which one to buy. How is this different from the others? Which is the best of the Digitech options?
Which others? Do you mean the standard Drop pedal?
@@wrashchild just wondering between the 4 and 5. I ended up buying the 5 for my son yesterday. HE'S THRILLED! Tested it out this morning. Pretty cool pedal!
I have bought a Digitech Drop and i hear two sounds the notes dropped and the original ones , like an ugly harmonization. They're not from guitar cause i play with high volume or with earphones. The wrong notes came from the amp itself...i have to return it
That sounds like a fault pedal. If you’re using it at the front of your chain and using headphones, it must be a faulty one.
So this thing can tune up, too? 😅 Sure, capos are a thing, but a) they require retuning and b) they shorten your scale length. Which is probably why I’ve never seen a metal band use a capo on any of their riffs - even though I do know a hard-rock song that was recorded in F minor, clearly using the open E string (Ten’s “The Name of the Rose”). So I assume they actually tuned up for that one? Because it was recorded back in the 90s, when this pedal certainly didn’t exist yet.
Yes it can!
I use 5 strings electric violin in E scale. Will this pedal be useful for me if I want to switch from E to G (upward) or E to C (downwards). ??
I’ve never used it with an electric violin so I can’t give you an answer confidently. But you can do that with a guitar and it sounds good.
@@wrashchild oh OK bro. Does this effect comes with any advanced guitar processor or should we buy this separately only??
I'm wondering if you bring it to the lowest pitch, can you just use another pedal to boost it so It doesn't sound as weak-- maybe? lol
Ha! What’s the lowest pitch for you?
I guess you could do that but it’s one of those things you’d need to experiment with yourself.
@@wrashchild whatever the hell Korn plays in probably Lol I need to get that pedal for sure. I love almost every genre and tuning down and up all the time sucks
@Yoshi1up you wouldn’t need to go that far. They play 7 strings in A.
@@wrashchild ohhhh. Lol I guess it's just there for fun. Gotcha
How do you set it for Open G tuning ?
Unless your guitar is already in an open tuning it’s not possible.
Is there any noticeable latency on drop settings ?
Honestly I don’t feel so. I use it love and in studio and never feel that.
Great video, major GAS for your guitars now! Just waiting on delivery for my Whammy DT - do you notice any latency? Subscribed despite the Liverpool mug…
Nice one mate! Not a Manc are you ;)?
No latency on my end. I’ve used it for recording and live and it’s been stellar.
I fucking swear by this pedal.
It can’t track chords. That hurts this a lot. I love mine but it could be better.
I saw a vid where it could. What do you mean?
@@valleyboy3150 I have one and it cannot. If you try to play chords with the harmonizer settings it’ll sound like a jumbled mess unfortunately.
Drop c down one octave rips
Killer
I'm still a beginner. I have just completed my first year on electric guitar and bass guitar. But I already have 5 electric and 2 bass guitars 🙃 Two of my electric guitars are Floyd Rose and one is Evertune. To be honest, I haven't gotten into the technical side of guitars yet. So I have always used my Floyd and Evertune guitars in E standard songs, but I have always wondered about their performance in other tunings. I ordered Whammy DT today and I'm super curious about its performance now. If I can use my guitars in such as D standard, Eb standard just with this pedal, this will be among the most legendary products I have ever purchased.