@@SmallzSC2 SC2HL is another great content creator! That channel was actually what got me hooked on the pro scene. Nice, short highlight clips. I highly recommend the Kings of SC2 series they did as well. :)
@@SmallzSC2 no I'm not really a public face in the SC2 scene, not a pro or anything. Just run the channel. Funnily enough I believe I can throw a rock from my house to Harstems house (pretty hard throw though)
@@waltlock8805 My point was that the format has existed for a long time, and to claim rocket league bros made was silly. Didn't mean that I thought Jayne made it.
@@IAmTheSpruceMoose "Well, I mean bananas come from Central America. So if it was an apple, maybe like $2, but for a banana it's got to be at least 8."
Heres a Bronze 3 story; A personal experience. I played a 2 hour PvT. They went 2 base turtle terran and I went mass stalker. We didnt attack for 35 mins until I had 3-3-3 and then a moved into tanks and lost everything. They rebuilt and became 3 base turtle and I made mass carrier with 3-3-3 and moved out at 1hr30mins I hadnt even mined out my half of the map yet. Turrets vs Carriers and he had zero upgrades. He flew his buildings around and built ccs and new expansions to hide until at the 2 hour mark, he typed GG. I was rank 86 Bronze 3. The lowest ranked player on NA
sounds about right :D I didn't have people flying off buildings just to prolong the game since I exited bronze. (yes, I am not bronze anymore. Not meant to brag or anything ;) )
"They both thought it was a great game, they had a great time." lol I like this a lot. I think Winter would be uniquely qualified to do very well at this.
Dude this is SO FUNNY. Also, as a Diamond 3 player who feels like he put a large amount of work into hitting Diamond, I get sad when pros equate Diamond with Bronze lol...
As a diamond 3 player. What we do compared to bronze would seem like they were playing vs a pro. But to a pro,what we do is banging rocks together... the gap is equally as wide so it makes sense.
i got worker rushed twice last season and im diamond 2 so thats not a tell a well microed worker rush can kill you especially if you dont know how to stack workers
@@JoeWeedson Yea I haven't done it recently but it was fun. This was back in early HoTS and I'm also much better now, might be worth seeing how far I can get now.
I think even the lowest kind of cheese if done and executed well can bring you up to Dia easily. Just because the reaction is not executed well often enough. I guess you even did pro try-hard strats like mineral-walk weak workers to the back instead of A-move in. That would be enough to beat me 90% of the time :D
@@SilentCastHD Oh yea it was actually really good to do honestly because I learned so much about in game agro mechanics, You could hold position 1 drone before it dies and it actually forces the worker it's fighting to switch targets and while it's pathing you can re-A move the drone and you get free damage. In a situation where it's 14 drones vs 15 workers (drones also heal 1 HP) any little things you can do for damage like that is a near instant win. If you're opponent doesn't use hold position to switch agro on your workers or even knows about it, he's in trouble.
given his "is it imba or do I suck series" harstem should have had a huge advantage Edit: WinterStarcraft has BronzeligueHero series if anyone wonders how ridiculous the bottom ranks are
well, most games in BLH are silver to diamond. if you want a true bronze league game look at the angry coach marathon titled "The Legend of Stinkypiss". Real Bronze Players don't even know what they are supposed to do. pretty much like silver league but even less of a plan and a lot slower
@@dewottgaming1507 I was shocked as I not too god at RTS games and I started playing SC 2 not long ago and I am at gold 1 from the start. I already have problem cuz handling more then 6 control groups is problematic, gonna start use extra mouse buttons to hit maybe like 8 xD
I absolutely love this. The play back and forth between you two was hilarious. The editing was also wonderful. When I watch these sorts of gameshow things, I usually find the audio effects weak and empty feeling. Not the case here. Looking forward to more.
I think if he ever got Winter involved in this it would be the easiest win for Winter. Considering all the Bronze League Heroes + Angry Coaching. I feel like he's seen it all.
I would suggest that maybe they should tell theyr guess only to the editor so that the other person can't piggyback of the first guess and this could also make for a better reveal when each player finds out how far apart or close together the guesses actually were
This is amazing, Im excited to see the series unfold! If Winter gets on here he will do very good at guessing, possibly best score out of whole series, Id like to see him and/or lowko guessing as guests! Either way im still excited to see how it all comes together, keep up the awesome work!!!
Artosis makes me burst laughing lol. Omg "this could be NoRegret" hahaha Artosis is right though Bronze will be people who have never played the game, clueless adults trying this out and being confused for the great part
Oh I didn't expect Artosis when you said you had a special guest for this. But in my opinion Artosis is the greatest caster and for me personally has been the most important person for the SC2 esport scene, so I'm definitely fine with it!
a proposal for beating grand master with stupid stuff. tell your opponent your key plans, when a push is coming, zealot runbys, when you're taking a nexus, etc
For Harstem vs The World, I really like the composition of the zerg. It seems like he knows what he was was doing except for his micro. The blue terran though is another story.
Harstem, the production quality of your videos is awesome man! I dig everything you are putting out. Keep up the good work my friend! Kick some ass ❤️❤️❤️
This is a much better format than the previous Rank Roulette. Keep em coming! Also, can the world get a recording of Harstem and Artosis just laughing, on repeat. We all need this
Bronze players do not make lurkers... Bronze players read the spawning pool tooltip to make sure that's what they need to make the bug thingies.
Bronze players haven't finished the campaign. They get confused of why they need to build units beyond zerglings (and get supply capped immediately).
That was me in around silver2. Bronze also has an inherent first game ever or no brain whatsoever.
Bronze player make every single tech structure imaginable before expanding.
that gave it away for me too, they could luck into any unit that can be spawned, but not mutations, no way.
theking hmimidou bronze level skill difference is propably like diamond
This is next level, I love the series. Artosis & Harstem have great chemistry
@@SmallzSC2 Harstem fan 001
@@SmallzSC2 SC2HL is another great content creator! That channel was actually what got me hooked on the pro scene. Nice, short highlight clips. I highly recommend the Kings of SC2 series they did as well. :)
@@SmallzSC2 no I'm not really a public face in the SC2 scene, not a pro or anything. Just run the channel.
Funnily enough I believe I can throw a rock from my house to Harstems house (pretty hard throw though)
@@SC2HL whyd you start?
@@SC2HL wow, that is really interesting and an awesome coincidence
Barely a minute in and I'm already so hyped. Such high-effort editing for today's Harstosis event.
Harstosis! Love it!
This is a FANTASTIC idea for a series.
Except the idea is taken from the rocket league bros at sunlesskhan. Still fantastic though!
Cyanide doesn’t make it worse
@@GPCyanide Also, I believe Jayne did this with Overwatch before that.
@@RoseInTheWeeds Chess streamers have been doing Guess the ELO for a long time...
@@waltlock8805 My point was that the format has existed for a long time, and to claim rocket league bros made was silly. Didn't mean that I thought Jayne made it.
I love how Harstem genuinely sounds concerned/scared at 22:10 when he says “What happens below?”
This is a nice view we get ont the viewpoint of the gods from their mount Olympus..... we are just ants..... :-)
It's like watching billionaires guess how much an economy plane ticket costs... $10k? $5k? No!! can't be that cheap!
"I mean, it's one banana Michael. How much could it cost? 10 dollars?"
@@IAmTheSpruceMoose haha 😄
@@IAmTheSpruceMoose "Well, I mean bananas come from Central America. So if it was an apple, maybe like $2, but for a banana it's got to be at least 8."
Heres a Bronze 3 story; A personal experience. I played a 2 hour PvT. They went 2 base turtle terran and I went mass stalker. We didnt attack for 35 mins until I had 3-3-3 and then a moved into tanks and lost everything. They rebuilt and became 3 base turtle and I made mass carrier with 3-3-3 and moved out at 1hr30mins I hadnt even mined out my half of the map yet. Turrets vs Carriers and he had zero upgrades. He flew his buildings around and built ccs and new expansions to hide until at the 2 hour mark, he typed GG. I was rank 86 Bronze 3. The lowest ranked player on NA
you are the greatest hero in American history
Underrated comment, keep practicing and victory is assured.
@ nostalgia feeling reading this
Yeah, I guess it's bronze way to never leave till you're dead dead. I'm still bronze in that aspect.
sounds about right :D
I didn't have people flying off buildings just to prolong the game since I exited bronze. (yes, I am not bronze anymore. Not meant to brag or anything ;) )
"could be Noregret" killed me
Unfortunately, it was me
Guys I have some genuine bronze 2 and 3 games from my little brothers if we want some truly low ranked games.
do it
I have to see this!
"They both thought it was a great game, they had a great time." lol
I like this a lot. I think Winter would be uniquely qualified to do very well at this.
Winter would be amazing.
winter has too much experience hed reck them. artosis was very close too though
It will be great if you somehow manages to persuade Serral to participate in that show. Im really wanna hear what he is thinking about it
That sounds fantastic.
harstem please!
I get the feeling Serral doesn't do streaming, coaching or commentating. The lowest level games he looks at are probably his round of 8 opponents.
@@maemorri he actually do stream sometimes. and he commentated games with elazer ar lambo, i remember that i saw that
“Too much mootas. Must be gold”
Dude this is SO FUNNY. Also, as a Diamond 3 player who feels like he put a large amount of work into hitting Diamond, I get sad when pros equate Diamond with Bronze lol...
As a diamond 3 player. What we do compared to bronze would seem like they were playing vs a pro. But to a pro,what we do is banging rocks together... the gap is equally as wide so it makes sense.
the MMR difference between GM and diamond is the same as diamond to bronze so it kinda makes sense lol
@@samuelhaines820 And Ketroc.
@@13loodySword and then there is Serral
@@13loodySword "Sword is not a good ID". Sorry, can't resist that :D
"Bronze is for people that worker rush...."
I don't know how that makes me feel, I got to plat 3 just by drone rushing.
i got worker rushed twice last season and im diamond 2 so thats not a tell
a well microed worker rush can kill you especially if you dont know how to stack workers
@@JoeWeedson Yea I haven't done it recently but it was fun. This was back in early HoTS and I'm also much better now, might be worth seeing how far I can get now.
I think even the lowest kind of cheese if done and executed well can bring you up to Dia easily.
Just because the reaction is not executed well often enough.
I guess you even did pro try-hard strats like mineral-walk weak workers to the back instead of A-move in.
That would be enough to beat me 90% of the time :D
@@SilentCastHD Oh yea it was actually really good to do honestly because I learned so much about in game agro mechanics, You could hold position 1 drone before it dies and it actually forces the worker it's fighting to switch targets and while it's pathing you can re-A move the drone and you get free damage. In a situation where it's 14 drones vs 15 workers (drones also heal 1 HP) any little things you can do for damage like that is a near instant win. If you're opponent doesn't use hold position to switch agro on your workers or even knows about it, he's in trouble.
people in bronze couldn't send their replays probably. And wouldn't watch Harstem
Eh, i watch* even though i know i'd be lowest bronze league if i even played ranked. ^^
*i watch for the entertainment, tho, not to learn much. :">
given his "is it imba or do I suck series" harstem should have had a huge advantage
Edit: WinterStarcraft has BronzeligueHero series if anyone wonders how ridiculous the bottom ranks are
Husky starcraft used to have it
well, most games in BLH are silver to diamond. if you want a true bronze league game look at the angry coach marathon titled "The Legend of Stinkypiss". Real Bronze Players don't even know what they are supposed to do. pretty much like silver league but even less of a plan and a lot slower
@@dewottgaming1507 yeah I know, been down there XD, got out of silver recently, 40 apm on average
@@maxmustermann-zx9yq I'm plat 1 with 80-100 APM average
@@dewottgaming1507 I was shocked as I not too god at RTS games and I started playing SC 2 not long ago and I am at gold 1 from the start. I already have problem cuz handling more then 6 control groups is problematic, gonna start use extra mouse buttons to hit maybe like 8 xD
SUGGESTION: The one in the lead always guesses first. This allows the person behind to catch up.
Omg Harstem finally meets Artanis this is great
wr
My life for Aiur
He went for literally the lowest possible rank, such a bad move even if you think its bronze 3.
Man I´m curious to see a legit bronze 3 replay, I doubt it can be noticeably worse than silver...
rookie mistake, if you will
Artosis could've won with the Price is Right strategy there too. Harstem pick B3, Artosis pick B2, he couldn't lose unless it is B3
@@Jdban yeah, but his overall score matters for the top 3 thing, so this wouldn't be in his interest.
Yeah, bronze is most obvious i think :D i believe Harstem will be able to tell its bronze, when he ll see one :D
Damn who did this clean editing? 😳👀
I absolutely love this. The play back and forth between you two was hilarious. The editing was also wonderful. When I watch these sorts of gameshow things, I usually find the audio effects weak and empty feeling. Not the case here. Looking forward to more.
'He is saving up for the carrier switch'
rewatching the series. What a timeless masterpiece
I think if he ever got Winter involved in this it would be the easiest win for Winter. Considering all the Bronze League Heroes + Angry Coaching. I feel like he's seen it all.
Yes I wanna see Winter in this!!!!
@@luckieluuke131 i want him to host winter vs pig
ViBE would be good too
13:30 You can pinpoint the exact moment Artosis loses faith in the entire Starcraft II playerbase
"I'm only off two as well " - "Excuse me Chief ... "
The classic silver-gold build "slow zealots rush into charge on one base", way more common than one would expect!
rich people trying to guess incomes of the lower class
who's that? actors? 'cuz company owners sure know how much they pay in wages, at least a lil bit?
I would suggest that maybe they should tell theyr guess only to the editor so that the other person can't piggyback of the first guess and this could also make for a better reveal when each player finds out how far apart or close together the guesses actually were
OMG that series was going to be lit already, but with Artosis as guest it's just another level.
This is amazing, Im excited to see the series unfold! If Winter gets on here he will do very good at guessing, possibly best score out of whole series, Id like to see him and/or lowko guessing as guests! Either way im still excited to see how it all comes together, keep up the awesome work!!!
I have watched a lot of sc2 content from Harstem and Artosis playing brood war but this was funny I hope you continue!! please I need more!
Absolutely fantastic video! Please make more
Artosis makes me burst laughing lol.
Omg "this could be NoRegret" hahaha
Artosis is right though Bronze will be people who have never played the game, clueless adults trying this out and being confused for the great part
And 20% Masters 1 youtube smurf accounts. All those Bronze to Masters/GM games vs 4%, that plays 5-8 games, then quits.
Oh I didn't expect Artosis when you said you had a special guest for this. But in my opinion Artosis is the greatest caster and for me personally has been the most important person for the SC2 esport scene, so I'm definitely fine with it!
THE CONTENT KING KEEPS ON GOING LETS GO GAMERS
a proposal for beating grand master with stupid stuff.
tell your opponent your key plans, when a push is coming, zealot runbys, when you're taking a nexus, etc
Continue doing this captain. It is so enjoyable.
I love how Artosis' face goes from "okay this is interesting" in the first round to "oh my god they are so fucking bad it hurts" in the later rounds
Holy shit just what i wanted from mr harstem
collaboration :)))
Honored to be featured in game 2 of the show, thanks for having me guys :)
Thanks for providing the the replay ^^
Round 3 was completely surprising
This was one of the best Video's on youtube!!! Two great personalities!!
Dude people in Bronze 3 are like 8-year-olds who just want to make zerglings and run them around map. They build like 10 and give them names and shit
Hahahaha, beautiful.
Nothing wrong with that. I would like to have 10 pet lings to play with.
This is the peak of StarCraft looking at the bottom of StarCraft. I'm in love.
Top 3 best starcraft content I've seen this year. The top two being your uploads Harstem, and Artosis' uploads
Round 5 was the best chunks of game I've ever watched. I wasn't laughing so hard for a while.
For Harstem vs The World, I really like the composition of the zerg. It seems like he knows what he was was doing except for his micro. The blue terran though is another story.
This is epic. I want MORE! Big kudos to mr. editor
this was just amazing, cant wait for episode number two.
Harstem, the production quality of your videos is awesome man! I dig everything you are putting out. Keep up the good work my friend! Kick some ass ❤️❤️❤️
Everyone wants to see what true bronze looks like but its almost impossible to find them. Unless...
The hunt for actual bronze 3 replays...
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONZE LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGUE
HEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOES
Oh yeah I totally forgot there's even 3 tiers to bronze
great series!! we need more of this! Harstem vs Pig next!
This is excellent. So happy you guys bumped the production up to the next level. Looking forward to seeing more!
Now we need Tasteless as well
This one was very fun too watch , thank u
Enjoyed that vid really hard! Keep it up dude!
My guess for the red Zerg in Harstem vs. the World is Diamond 1.
This is brilliant content. Keep it up Mr Harstem
thats just the pros talking. that gold 2 game could have been my own, guessed it correctly!
This series is the best! So fun! I think its a master 1 in the harstem vs the world
loved the video, please keep the series going
i love this series, like deadass, makes me want to play sc2 like a lot
This is awesome. This is f***ing awesome! That last game was Silver3 btw
This is such a phenomenal vid please make more!!
I dont think bronze players build walls and use hold position stalkers when they get attacked.
this was absolute the best thing i witnessed today thanks
More, next special guest! Excellent video series idea!
Being in gold three, I kinda felt that that second game was gold two, It's a lot cleaner lurker play than mine.
YES! I got the last one perfect! :D I love this content, looking forward to the next ones, subscribed!
Harstem just keeps pumping out the best SC2 content
It always amazes me how unique and entertaining harstems content is
As a silver player, it was truly hilarious to watch them wonder what is worse than that second gold match. This is a great show concept!
Another high quality series I'm so hyped for the next one!
Next guest should definitely be Falcon Paladin
Bro yes
Pretty sure that Winter and Pig are gonna blast this series.
This might be the best thing I've seen in a long time. Omg I'm laughing so much I have a stomach ache 😂
Love it. We need more of this
This is such an amazing idea for a series
Make more of these. It was really fun guessing along.
Immensely entertaining and very professional! great!!
This is much more entertaing that I anticipated congrats man
Im calling it, one of these special guests are Serral
The last boy was absolutely Diamond 1 ;d, you can quote me on this one :D
Thank you for this, I really enjoyed it! Will continue to support you :)
I would say Diamond 1 for the last replay.
Apart from that super great video! It makes this guessing game much more fun with a guest! :)
This was so good, cant wait for next one!
4 minutes in and this is absolutely a gold mine. Can't wait for more
This channel is getting more and more entertaining, amazing work
This is amazing! You need to get winter into this. He is without a doubt the most experienced person to guess this and win. It would be amazing.
Please do MORE of these
This was amazing. I am very thankful for this series. Please do more stuff like this
This just made me realize caster need to team up for silly shit that isen’t purely casting more often.
This was the most amazing surprise for the weekend. Epic episode!
This is a much better format than the previous Rank Roulette. Keep em coming! Also, can the world get a recording of Harstem and Artosis just laughing, on repeat. We all need this
Incredible content. Thank you, Harstem.
Harstem you need to watch some of the user submitted games that Lowko uploaded 2-3 years ago, there's a lot to learn from those
Needed more Harstem classic comparisons ;). "This guy here is like ________" Great video as always :). o7
amazing first guest. nice series
gives me funday monday vibes, i LOVE IT! :'D
Awesome idea for a series. Really hyped to watch the rest.