Messianic Reaction to The Chosen S3 E4 | Surprising Reason Veronica is Her Name!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In Season 3 Episode 4 @TheChosenSeries tackles some controversial topics. Watch Sam and Dr. Tom's give a Messianic perspective on healing, demonic deliverance and whether the Pharisees were all bad guys. Plus Dr. Tom gives some marriage advice and they discuss the name Veronica! Were you as shocked at the ending as they were?!
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Hey grafted guys poor women of good reputation with no other supports or work skills often became washerwomen. My great great grandmother was a washerwoman in Alabama after slavery ended. Backbreaking work for pittance but it was respectable work in a community.
Nice addition to the discussion, thank you.
Looking forward to the Episode 5 reaction. Sometimes the cliffhangers are hard when you've read the book first!!! 😆😆
I see what u did there😉 lol
CAN’T WAIT for episode 5’a reaction, I think it’s safe to say we ALL CRIED 😭❤️
I had all the tears!
And we smiled and laughed at the ending!
I did!
I cried
Hi? You have my birthday numbers.. I'm here
33:02 one thing that Veronica mentions is that she is banished from her family, meaning unclean women had no family, no roof, and no promise of food, just hoping that they would one day find hope because they were treated worse than the lappers.
Adja meg az Úr, hogy akik látják a filmet, higgyenek is az Úr erejében. 🕎
I've been looking forward to this since episode 4 dropped! I really love watching you guys react to the show to get the Jewish context on the ahow and Bible as well. I can't wait for you guys to watch episode 5. I cried like a baby and even 24 hours later I still don't really have words to articulate what I feel about it.
Edit: I didn't even think about the fact that James and John were fighting over who would be at the right hand of Jesus! This is why I love watching you guys, you pick up on things I don't and give it context and it's awesome.
I have watched, rewatched The Chosen multiple times. Now Im finding Im watching, rewatching The Grafted episodes. Yes for the wonderful teachings and oh my you two have a way of making me laugh. GOD BLESS YOU
same
Can’t wait till your episode 5 reaction! It really did melt my face off like Johnathan said it would!
It's not about just touching his robe. Many touched his robe. It was about her faith. It's all about faith in him. It's not about sitting in nice cushy seats, or a preacher who uses the good book for bigger churches. He didn't come to save the righteous, he came to save the sinner. He offers eternal life, not riches on earth. If they come great, congratulations. True wealth is what he offers.
"But for you who fear my name, the sun of righteousness shall rise with healing in its wings [fringes or 'tzitzit]. You shall go out leaping like calves from the stall." Malachi 4:2 I heard a commentator who speculated that perhaps the woman was thinking of when she went to look for Jesus and thought all she needed to do was touch the fringes of his garment.
"Veronica" is the Latin version of the Greek "Berenice/Berenike".
That Name is in the Bible and the meaning is "Bearer of Victory".
There's also Victoria
That is Joseph of Armenia. ( spelt totally wrong) The key was that he paid to have all the supplies delivered from Jerusalem to fix the cistern. His family was wealthy he said like a episode ago
Love you guys a lot. The reactions are authentic, yet your insights are not rehearsed, but come from a place of knowledge. Above all the heart for the kingdom and love of people and the Creator is inspiring. Thanks, and keep it up.
I love love love you guys! Love hearing the Messianic Jewish slant on all of this. SO GOOD! x
I knew that Veronica was the woman that bled for 12 years. What I want to see is if she is the same Veronica that wipes the face of Jesus as He carries His cross (from the Roman Catholic stations of the cross).
And, did you already ascertain that Yousef the Pharisee is Joseph of Arimethea (?). As you pointed out, family weslthy and from Jerusalem. I tell my pastors that I know so much more about the Bible and the 1st century thanks to the 2 of you.
I didn't notice it at the time, but rewatching this episode after Eden's miscarriage is S3E5 it's obvious she's presenting her belly to Simon for his notice. Good to know being thick as a brick isn't limited to my generation.
I love watching your reactions and your comments but I wish you covered more of each episode
The music and chanting is pretty effective as well. This series is incredibly well made, it's only increased my faith in Christ
I think Yosef is Joseph of Arimathea
Eden: Notice anything different?
Me: Never ask a man that question.
Great job you guys. It is refreshing to see someting of "quality" put out in the Christian world. Wonderful tool for evangelization. May the Father continue to bless it.
Walk in the light, beautiful light...Jesus, The Light of the World
It was because of your Veronica video that I really wanted The Chosen to portray her touching the tzitzi! I was so happy when they did! Only wish they had tied it to Malici
Yes! Healing in His Wings!!
I thought of that too, but maybe it would have been too cumbersome to weave in that reference 🤔
@@edmundphilipburke Maybe. They have to make a lot of choices and I really loved the scene!
Yusef is Joseph of Arimathea imo
Thank you for the Chronicles 20:12 verse. I didn't know about it and I love it!
I'm blessed that Jesus has shown me the light!! Thanks guys for your biblical input.
Sam's reaction to the cliffhanger is what the whole fan club was feeling! Can't wait for your reaction to episode 5. There will definitely be some tears. 😁
John the beloved - there is a conversation between him and Mother Mary in S2 ep1 when John says "he loved me" and she answers sth like "he loved all of you! Only you feel the need to talk about it more often" :)
You talked about how the enemy comes at you when you have been used of God. It can be pretty intense to work with the Holy Spirit like that.
I always remember Elijah after God's amazing victory against Jezebel's idols! I find that story to be one of the most impressive displays of God's glorious power! But Poor man, he felt like he was all alone. He ran away, afraid that Jezebel's soldiers were after him, until he collapsed. God sent ravens to care for him. God knows how weak we really are without him. 🙌
I LOVED your reactions! You will be blown away by part 2 in Episode 5. I appreciate your knowledge of the Jewish movements at that time and the details that you add.
Thank you for pointing out the selected film choice during the Disciple's Ministry. I hadn't thought about it being a visual aide between Darkness and Light, though the shadows and lighting were still Amazing.
I saw this as a way to help those watching really focus on the Preaching and Miracles of Jesus Christ's Disciples! Instead of going, "Oh look, more cool scenes!", and then brushing them off, you could really focus and pay attention to the message, especially when it was presented visually and with music only.
Hello! I love listening to your reactions to The Chosen episodes. You mentioned that in season 3 episode 5 that the name given to the woman who had the issue of blood, Veronica, was a Catholic tradition. I am Catholic and never heard that. We have a tradition that when Jesus was on his way to the Cross, He fell and a woman came forward and used her veil to wipe Jesus face. The image of His face remained on her veil. She was as tradition goes,was named Veronica. I just heard recently that In Greek Veronica means True Icon. The true Icon remained on her veil. Shalom 💗
WHOA! I never put it together that our beloved Yussif could be (totally must be) Joseph of Arimathea! You guys are GOOD!
Love to listen to you guys, Wish you will cover the whole episode. God bless!
Animisum is a tough one. I wear my father's dog tags to remember and honor him.
Ha ha! I had the same reaction at the end. It was too short! Seven years, folks! :)
You must react to full episode 5 please!!!
Say Aye ( @17:52 ) made me think of this from my study a few days ago... The Eyes have it! (1 Samuel 11:15, when reaffirming Saul as King after Nahash the Ammonite's offer to gouge out an eye of everyone in the nation in order to live.)
I'll be anxiously awaiting the Grafted Reaction video to S3E5!! Oh wait, the Bible says 'be anxious for nothing!' So, I'll be patiently waiting... =)
Its a lucky thing Jairus' wife didn't drink that drink, or else she too would have been sick from the "stagnant " well water that Neely drank 😞
The name Veronica is from the 5th or 6th C, when a copy of an ikon of the Face of Christ came to Italy. It was called "Vera IKona" - 'True Image' -- but 'EIKON' is Greek, not Latin, so it was somewhat mangled in common speech. It became 'Ver-onica. Then it sounded like a woman's name, so the story managed to provide an explanation for a Woman having a perfect Image of Christ's Face upon a Cloth. This particular thing is likely the Image now at Manopello, in the Appenines, east of Rome. It is on a piece of 'byssos' cloth, made of the fine, translucent fibers, finer than spider's webbing, but spun into strong threads. It was "Royal Cloth" & mentioned even on the Rosetta Stone. See the book by Paul Badde, a German researcher, who interviews one of the last living
weavers of this amazing cloth.
I love watching you putting two and two together....
To speak to the Sanhedrin Scene, I noticed that Josephus, that one Pharisee, wasn't at the meeting! I think your prediction about him being Josephus of Arimaia was spot on! I think this scene was the meeting of the Sanhedrin where they agreed to work with the Roman Law to crucufy Jesus... It's just a theory, but it seems to check out! Also on one if the chosen adds, it shows Josephus coming to warn Jesus, so, that's kind of cool!
Rock on,
-Abby
I love the way you said, "I've read the script." I love how fleshing out the stories makes the stories clearer. Love the Chosen.
He gave us power but no understanding. Completely agree in my case. Born again from a Hindu background alone as a teenage girl. I had to fight and suffer a lot.He gave me the strength to go through it. But looking back 25 years, I feel like I didn't know Him as much as I know now. Honey tastes better and better every time we taste it. His love and loving-kindness and patience to mold me was a long process. Discipleship is a hard part of sanctification ..
Thank you for this video
“Super lit!” 😂😂😂😂
Tom your recognition of Gamaliel is striking. A new insight!
After watching your explanation, I felt for (talk to) myself, "knowing is not sufficient but connecting what is known can bring understanding and eventually wisdom."
As a child I remember hearing the bible stories about the raising of Jairus' daughter and the healing of the bleeding woman who touched his cloak. I don't think she was ever given an actual name in the scriptures but the story is undeniable. Great commentary :)
Loooove your videos. Watching from Iceland 🇮🇸
I’m patiently waiting for episode 5 reaction! I was in shambles 😂😂😂
Every spirit filled Protestant church has "professional exorcists" called deliverance ministries. There are entire churches dedicated to deliverance.
It's Yosef's and Jairus' epiphonic moment.
The episode where Jesus told little James "oh, the stories you will tell"
Wow, did I have tears.
I didn’t know it was her name. I am a newer student of the Bible. Always a believer just started researching it in the recent past. I will say thank you to The Chosen for boosting my productivity.
She's not given a name in scripture just like the gospels don't tell us Simon's wife's name or his mother-in-law. Although the name Veronica isn't in the bible, the woman who wipes Jesus face free of sweat and blood with her head scarf on the way to the cross has been given the name Veronica (by ancient early church traditions) because in Greek the name means "true icon." It's believed an image of Jesus face was left on the cloth. I wonder if Dallas and the writers know that? Happy for you rediscovering the gospels with The Chosen.
Amen! Exactly my story! Amen!🙏✝️♥️
Make sure to test everything with scripture. This is a
m o v i e not true exactly with the bible. It's important to remember that.
There is no Veronica in the Bible. It isn’t a Hebrew or Aramaic name.
@@maggiegarber246 you're right it is greek for true icon. The Bible was written in greek - the Septuagint during the early church.
I didn’t know Veronica but knew who she was
I never imagined how the disciples handled their first assignments! Jesus told them they would heal and spread the message. I imagined them speaking.
In season 1, Jesus commented on Tamar's necklace and he didn't criticize her, but he did compliment her on her faith...besides she is new at this and she is a gentile from a different culture. Wait! What? Yousef is definitely Joseph of Aramathea, plus he respects Nicodemus and they are the ones who together take Jesus body and put spices on his body in the tomb.😇
Faith isn't about understanding. Understanding is about knowing. He calls us to faith.
Faith first, then sometimes comes the understanding.
In my experience anyway
The parts where Jesus heals the lost always make me cry. Like the guy by the well. I guess I connect with feelings of loss. I have lost my faith for a good part of my life and I wonder if God would even save me now.
Of course He will! Just ask Him! He’s only as far away as the length of your arms!
Read the story of the prodigal son and you'll have your answer 😉
It is never too late,Barry. Take heart.
Barry, it is NEVER TOO LATE! As stated below, just ask him! We are given free will, so you DO have to ask for these things as he will not step in and help if not. I, too, have felt the same way in the past. I considered myself as the lost sheep for a long time but it took the loss of a loved one to break me to my knees and ask. It is almost as if I was given a heart transplant and ever since my life has never been the same way again. I know that is it not too late for you! Come to him, knock on the door and it shall be opened for you! May God sweep his love over you like a blanket as he has done for so many of us, may he do for you and more! Your faith is the best thing you can have next to the Holy Spirit, you will not regret it, trust me! God bless you!
Even when we don't 'lose' our faith, we need him to save us repeatedly throughout our lives. The hardest step is knowing we need saving.
Consider that perhaps your faith was not 'lost,' but the self (faith) you had built demolished piece by piece; the materials replaced as they prove unworthy, unsafe. What you lost can now be replaced with new wood. Incorruptible wood.
If you lost faith it's likely because he has something better to give you in it's place.
25:00 oh, wow! I've been feeling attacked lately. It took me more than a month to figure it out. It helps knowing i'm not alone in it. Anyone else who feels it, please know you aren't alone in it either. We don't win by destroying the darkness. We win by fighting
They're questioning the traditions of the Sanhedrin. We should also question our traditions and our theology, at times. The disciples believed Messiah would be a military hero and would come and establish Israel, and He will, just not that time! When He was arrested instead, they fled! What happens to us if things don't happen the way we think they will? What if the rapture doesn't happen when we think? What if life doesn't go the way we think it should? Will we run?
They might be setting up the situation where the two disciples could NOT cast out a demon. It registered as a fail, and so they didn't want to talk about it when everyone else was coming back with a success story.
Looking forward to seeing your reaction to episode 5...😥
When are you guys gonna do episode 5??? I was hoping before Sunday's episode 6!! I wait for your reactions almost as obsessively as I wait for each episode of The Chosen!! 😂
Shabbat Shalom, guys 🙏🍷🕊️🕎!
Veronica’s veil. Look it up. Which episode will that appear in? The Crucifixion.
Tamar is right there with Mary when she speaks, her come back is on point too....
Thanks for bringing forward the names of Rabbis Shammai and Hillel and Gamaliel.
This is my thought on how they keep harping on Tamar not selling her jewelry. Why should they have a problem with it when Jesus has said nothing? He knows Tamar better than even she does. If he truly had a problem with her jewelry or her reasons for keeping it he would address it in his own time OR allow her to see for herself. Mary and Yasmine should leave her alone about it. On the other hand, to be even minded, Tamar should not be so gung-ho about everyone else giving things up when she clearly is not willing to give up very much at all. Yes, she followed Jesus, but to her own admission, she is no longer connected with her family; she is no longer living in her place of birth and she is not married. What has she truly sacrificed, if compared to the others? She shouldn't be so anxious about selling off belongings that don't belong to her. I cringed when she was going through Matthew's things and planning to sell them off. I know he's given up his home and everything but still, it was just cringy.
In this I think the Chosen has done well in representing the different types of characteristics we carry today. It's easy to point fingers and chastise but we have to remember we ALL have short comings and failings we need to work on. I'm really glad they're not portraying these people as if they're perfect. Rather they're showing us, to us, by using the characters in the show. Beautiful!
Totally agree…It was a perfect argument and both women presented a valid counter argument. Nice scene.
I prefer to be in front of Jesus...gazing at Him in awe or just behind following and listening to Him...not to be only beside HIM (on His right or His left)...hope this makes sense.
Always look forward to these! They're the best of both worlds -- educational and entertaining. Love it!
It's a joy watching this with you guys & being a part of the disecting, analysing & experiencing the reactions together ..... with so many others of cause. (your not watching it alone) & your not talking over the top of the scene while it's running.
Thank you
Wow good way to put that, a shift in authority from religious leaders to the apostles. Never thought of it in that way.
It was the Best Episode yet, but I say that about all of them. God Bless You All
Thank you and God Bless
The editor had fun with this reaction of yours. 😅❤
Joseph of Arimathea? Nicodemus?
Aye - I realised a while before that Veronica was the woman with the issue of blood
I think Matthew said...."OUT OF HIM"
Laughing, crying, learning, growing. Every time. Thank you. I really appreciate it when you bring up Scripture. It would be so nice to dive deeper into some of these topics with Scriptures... May the Lord bless you guys. 🙏❤
So Eden does not say what she is thinking.... what she wants her husband to be thinking... She wants to believe that he loves her so so much that he is automatically thinking that he will be concerned about how she is feeling, how things went while he was gone, How is she feeling about him being away. Spend time ... sitting down .. close and talking about feelings. But... men being wired differently... selfishly ( but not on purpose) thinking about material things... BUT love is patient... right ? right ???🥰
Did I miss something? The Bible doesn't say the woman with the issue of blood had a name. The name Veronica is not in any of the four Gospels. The Catholic Church has a saint named Veronica and they say she wiped Jesus face when He was carrying the cross to Golgotha. But, that's a Catholic tradition and I only go with what is in Scripture.
They gave her a name. Quit judging.
@@vickyninnemann3737 stick to Scripture!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't make stuff up!!!!!
Please make your reaction screen big when you react like your old videos. I need to see your reaction clearly.
I have literally seen the scales fall from someone’s eyes and it looked just like that
Of course there's no way for me to know for sure, but I was thinking just today that she will show up as the Veronica wiping the face of Jesus on His Way to Calvary. That's a Sacred Catholic Tradition that might show up in The Chosen just like it did in The Passion of Mel Gibson. That woman would most certainly be a good candidate to do just that, especially given the fact the ONLY Women, among the disciples and friends of Jesus (other than John) were present at Calvary. Men fled like chickens and Judas betrayed Him of course. SHAME ON US!
Love both of you! I'm enjoying being surprised along with you At 31:00 you might want to correct the spelling of Acts. ("Atcs" 5:38-39)
I love your explanations with Hebrew and Greek words because it adds so much depth to understanding!!
Shemuel is happy, he got what he wanted. He was always after Yeshua.... Now that "a bounty" is basically on Yeshua's head, they seem to be winning, they think!!!🤔 Shemuel is really on an ego trip!!
I’m about a month late in seeing this video. I love the theological history you two provide. Just an observation of the excellent script writing of The Chosen. (I have only one issue that doesn’t appear in this episode.) Just as Yusef appears to be Joseph of Arimathea, I suspect that Veronica will be the Veronica who wipes the face of Jesus on His way to Calvary. If I’m correct about that, it will be interesting to see the transfer of Jonathan’s image portrayed as miraculously appearing onto Veronica’s veil. Your opinion?
Enjoyed your commentary!!!!
I love Tom’s “WHAT?!” when talking about Jairus’ encounter with Yeshua. 🤣
I’ve never seen a sarcastic “Hey! Spoiler alert!” before.
Veronica was my mother's name....
Finally !
A channel/ministry that uses His correct Hebrew name.
Yeshua
Thank you for that.
As one who once was Roman Catholic (now more Evangelical in following Jesus/Yeshua), I know of Veronica as the woman who wiped Jesus' face as He carried His cross to Golgotha. Only found out now that she's been identified as the woman with the issue of blood. Good job, guys! Just subscribed to your channel
That isn’t in the Bible at all. Only Luke mentions women during Christ’s procession to Golgotha. The other gospels do not mention women. In Luke, it says “A large number of people followed him including women who mourned and wailed for him. Jesus turned and said to them, ‘Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me; weep for yourselves and for your children. For the time will come when you will say Blessed are the barren women’…
from what I have researched, the idea of Veronica wiping Jesus’ face came from a tradition centuries later than Christ’s death.
Veronica is the woman who stepped in front of the angry crowds and wiped Jesus' face and the picture of Jesus' face came on the towel!
I can't wait for your reaction on episode 5✨
You guys are fun and lotsa learning happens when you learn in fun. Thanks for building others up this way. Appreciate you!
You're like the religious version of Good Mythical Morning! I love it!
Why u guys don't say Jesus?
Because Yeshua is his real Jewish name, Jesus is his English name🙏
@@ClaridgesSeven Well, That I know, I wanted to know actually if it was something religious about it like Jehovah Witness. They don't say the word God
We usually say Yeshua because our main context is a Messianic congregation. But, we also say Jesus.
@@ClaridgesSevenit’s the Greek translation of Yeshua, or Joshua
Praise be Jesus for healing and deliverance till today! Love this episode!
You guys are so great. Love your videos. Great comments about the transfer of power that’s happening from the religious leaders to the disciples/apostles! In church this week we studied Revelation 21 and it hit me like never before after having just seen this episode….these men’s names are written on the foundation of the wall of the new Jerusalem! Revelation 21:14-And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. On this rock, I will build my church! Mind blown!
Love your reaction to this. Can't wait to see your episode 5's reaction... You guys have to try to keep up. 😂