No Charlie, it is not the jury’s fault, the judges fault, the prosecutors fault or the people of Tallahassee fault. It is YOUR fault you are where you are. Period.
They spend so much time talking about everyone else, and how all this impacted him…. He doesn’t talk about the father of his nephews being impacted, doesn’t talk about the Markel family being impacted….you would think that if he was innocent, he would only talk about the tragedy of Dan’s murder. They never say anything about Dan….or Dan’s kids being without their father.
And I’m not sure Charlie even CARED where Wendi lived- he wanted to please his mom, imo, and probably got off on being able to pull it off! He almost DID! Now moms on the chopping block and Wendi seems smug as ever, probably looking forward to writing another book
Dan missed out watching his two sons grow up because of the choices Charlie made. I hope Charlie aches in his heart daily as his son grows up without him. Justice was serviced. RIP Dan Markel.
And that’s the part that nobody is talking about… these boys are the victims here too. They’ve lost so much. Dan’s boys may lose both parents. I feel such a sadness for their loss at such young ages.
I’m not so sure Charlie cares that much about his Son. He seemed much more concerned about his dogs, (the one that passed and the current dog) much more than his child imo 😮
Here Charlie is talking about people coming to visit him in prison and obviously really wanting that connection with others. And Donna is making plans to flee the country and never see him again. I mean, wow. this family is nuts.
Shows how really whacko they are, but also that they have no TRUE loyalty to each other after all is said & done!! Narcissistic Psychopaths ALL of them!
The Adelsons belong in prison, but it is gut wrenching to think about knowing you will never again see anything that was once familiar to you. Everything, including your past identity, has been taken forever. And now that Donna is arrested, Charlie will never speak to his mother again in his life. And yet even in this hopeless reality, there is absolutely no self-reflection on what they did to get themselves in this situation.
They’ll speak again. These people will never fully be punished. Him being able to talk on the phone for hours to people? There are innocent God fearing people that can’t talk to loved ones because they don’t have money to have a phone, but Charlie and Donna talk for hours. It’s bull!
You can't help but think about the extreme shift in lifestyle for them. As charlie said in a call "rich, white, jewish"; they had it all and chose to throw it away. It's remarkable they thought the crimes were worth it.
I wondered if that was an odd consciousness of guilt or if it bothers the lawyer, himself, being sane profession and name sake as the man these thugs took out
Yes! I have noticed the same - it's all the other things that got him - the jury, city of Tally, the prosecutor etc, not the fact that he was clearly involved in the murder. Never once does he show anger or frustration for being in there as an innocent person, because he isn''t innocent.
Wonderful! The phenomenal Georgia the torpedo is residing rent free in Charlie’s brainpan. That is an awesome reality. Enjoy your new living quarters Charlie.
They really are delusional. Cracks me up that he's complaining about the jury telling lies about prejudging and yet this whole family exists on lying when it's convenient for them. Nothing is ever their fault.. Sad.
So true, I love how Donna tells Charlie how she will come to visit him in prison....be kinda hard when she was flying off to Vietnam. I guess long distance visits were on the agenda.
Poor Charlie ! The mental torture of spending the rest of his life without his son ! Gee, I wonder what Dan Markel was feeling about his Ben-Ben and Lincoln without him having totally freedom to be a dad with them !
Well I must say Donna was pretty lucky, least with Charlie already goin to jail he could give her a heads up about life behind bars for when she arrived there.
Hearing their own words about how unfair everything was for them with no regard for Dan or his sons finally explains how they were able to commit murder. Family of narcissists. I'm so sorry Dan. Your sweet boys should be with your parents.
All the anger and bitterness directed at Georgia instead of the person who supposedly extorted him. And in other tapes he talks about what he should have done in the past, like listened to his gut and taken a vacation (code for fleeing). Never does he say “Why didn’t I call the police the first night I got extorted by Katie?” There is never any reference that would corroborate his defense argument. If anyone had a sliver of doubt about his guilt, the words of Charlie in these tapes should remove it.
This sticks out to me for sure. There's no anger about being in jail, and then convicted as an innocent person, they instead pick apart the jury, the prosecutor, the fact that the trial was held in Tallahassee and more . I can only assume someone who was innocent would be concerned about THEIR OWN INNOCENCE, not all of those other smaller factors.
The case was international in other calls in this one it is worldwide. He talks and talks and talks… convincing himself - it’s his story and he’s sticking to it!!!!
"No Charlie you don't look the same anymore.. you look like a Washed up Beetlejuice.. and for you Donna..you use the word "Facts" never the word "Truth.. because that requires"Honesty". Look in the mirror and try that for a change..
I'm still trying to figure out what all these facts are that she's talking about. Then to say the prosecution didn't have any facts... except of course emails, calls, money trail, motive, etc... I also love how he's bashing Georgia saying all she was interested in was sending him to prison... ummm... so doing her job? Lol
He's complaining about a lifetime without being able to see his son grow, she's in misery for having lost her son to prison for the rest of their lives, yet it never dawns on either of them how much pain and suffering they caused by murdering a good father of two sons ... who they'll obviously never see again.
It's amazing that he never says, "Mom, I didn't murder Dan! I had nothing to do with this? How did I get here? What can I do? How did this all occur?" Never once does he deny what he has been convicted of! Charlie IS where he belongs! Thank goodness the jury got it right. 💥🔒 No more fancy cars, boats, jetski's, women, stocks, bonds, a doctorate level job with good income, no relations with real women, no real intimacy with a real woman, no father/son bonding or time, no sunshine on the beach, no real friends, no more scamming people in the real world, no trips, no more underage prost\tut€s overseas or in the US, and no more need to buy staples or a stapler 😂
Nobody seems to be mentioning Charlie's future. He's not going to prison.. . He is going to a camp, he is a rich Jewish boy that's going to an Aryan Nation camp. He will hate life so much probably drown his self in the toilet
@@little_old_grannydoc The family had 14 rental units at the time his net was calibrated. He had a share of that it's all in a trust. He was selling drugs on the side, I don't believe that was for money as much as it was to meet drug addict girls. Just my opinion. He keeps on saying they don't have any evidence and yet he admitted financing the murder. How do you finance a murder without being responsible for that murder in one way or another. I guess that's not evidence. They made me do it?
hi pretty.... thanks so much ..your tapes are sooo much better!...what a sad story... every word that comes out of donna's mouth is pure evil and I am so happy she will be locked up forever! tkss
Textbook examples of malignant narcissism and how dangerous and destructive these people can be. They will never change. The irony that he's complaining about what he'll miss out on with his son. Chilling. They do not have an empathetic bone in their bodies.
17:25 Charlie should have thought about ALL of this BEFORE he helped coordinate the hit on Dan. Dan's sons don't know him either because of YOU and your families evil actions. In this recording Donna doesn't know her time is up too ⌛️ Karma. Watch your words; they become your actions; your actions determine your fate.
He only mourns what he is missing out on with his son and the fun stuff he could do. He doesn't seem to feel guilty that it is his actions that deprived his son of having a present father and good role model.
He now only beginning to see the see the worth of the son. This is the very son that the baby had to go to court, just to get him to pay child support and put him on his health insurance. He suddenly found love for the child only after a life sentence smh
@@Dansnov1086 yes, he’s doing only 19 years or so, but not all those years are for this murder. He was a leader in a dangerous gang and convicted in federal court for some gang stuff too. he’s definitely going to get out before he’s an old man, unlike Charlie!
Yes Charlie just keep convincing yourself that the piles of evidence had nothing to do with any of it!! Why on earth would you want your son to visit you in Prison?? Is he supposed to be proud that his dad is in for Murmur??
His defense “strategy” was terrible, he payed top dollar for his defense to come up with such a lame story. It’s insulting for them to think the jury would buy that . He’s in prison, so is his mother , and Wendi is distancing herself from them and living the life she wanted 🤦🏾♀️ that’s the current tragedy, she’s the reason this murder took place . Hope justice comes to full circle soon , for the Markel’s🙏🏾
Hearing donna weep, knowing it is self inflicted...gives me hope that justice is being done. Mom and son are inhuman. Probably others in that family too.
Both Charlie and Donna are DELUSIONAL on these calls. And he knows it's being recorded so he's pointing out the "coincidences' that happened that day. Oh Charlie, haven't you ever heard there are no coincidences? And poor Dan's kids are struggling to go to school, according to Donna. But she thinks they'll just bounce back from it?
@@astrialindah2773 I don’t know. I’m not team adelson to say the least, but there is a part Of me that feels they, or at least Charlie, regrets what they have done. They’ve ruin SO many lives including so many children.
Charlie just regrets getting caught and getting a biased jury! NOT And a projector who " made stuff up. I think he said, "lie after lie after lie". Poor baby.
I don’t like Donna, either, but I cannot believe the degree of selfishness Charlie has, hearing his Mom breaking down, hardly able to speak, the hopelessness in her voice and yet still just sitting there, droning on in her ear about the horrible circumstances he is in, etc. These people are the most self-centered, unfeeling people in the world. So disgusting.
They are all very self centered. He's telling them how much he needs them to come visit, take care of his finances and Roman and they're reassuring him they will. "We just have a lot to take care of a few things first" they say as they make plans to skip the country. I'm sure much of her sadness is guilt knowing she's ditching her whole family.
How can these two talk like they’re innocent? It’s mind boggling. I get pleading not guilty as a Hail Mary but when that doesn’t work, at least do some self reflection. And no one wants to be in prison for the rest of their lives. People like him and Donna normalize insane decisions and are surprised when it doesn’t work and will die with that lie.
Why is it that Wendi will only speak to her parents in person? If she's innocent in Dan's death she wouldn't be fearful of speaking on the phone and texting. I want to see her behind bars too!
But her Mother is crazy and loose lipped. She gave the Prosecutor the best bit of evidence on a wiretap. Charlie pressed her to reveal though. "The both of us."
I looked up Charlie's mugshot at the prison they just transferred him and they shaved his head. He definitely looks scared. I'm sure reality is setting in. I feel for his son but Dan didn't get to see his kids grow so this is a payback for what him and his family did to Dan.
@@allaboutcrime1972 Thank you ......I've just taken a look!! Lol is he trying to look rough and tough in case he's forced into General Population?? He has no idea that its the R's and P's that get the special treatment of Protective Custody ....lol do you think he has just found out?? 😂😂😂
Something just occurred to me. Is Donna crying so hard because she knows she's planning on leaving the country and not EVER seeing Charlie again? Is she scared because she's afraid they're coming after her too? I'm just not convinced that this evil woman's tears are because of feelings of remorse.
💯 I said the same. He's telling her he needs them to be there for him and his son and they are lying to his face, reassuring him, all the while they are searching for ways to skip the country.
its disgraceful donna says they were all looking forward to Monday to be not guilty I am positive dan was looking forward to Monday as well horrible people
@@leelatham1785 crazy people every where lol. They truly thought they were untouchable otherwise i doubt any of them would be expecting an acquittal if at all they paid any attention to the evidence presented in court. It seems all that matters to them is what they say and want
No accountability ,with Charlie, and who will he complain to now that mom is locked up. Maybe they will find out how awful life is when your loved one is taken. These are awful people , I hope they rot in hexx
When this murder happend Charlie didn't have a child. Maybe if he did he would have understood what Danny was fighting for and would have stayed out of his sisters business.
imagine the surprise Charlie would have had had the parents made the flight 5 hours a day conversation with mom would have been really missed remember they told friend do not tell Charlie about these plans
Just think not too long after this conversation his mother Donna was arrested. She now sits in a jail cell. This family lived eight years after the murder, carefree. Do they truly have no conscience? What still remains astonishing is that they truly believed they would get away with murder. Talk about entitled and delusional. The wheels of justice have turned slowly, but they are starting to move in the right direction. Donna seems very measured in her responses and Harvey talks very little. In the last few days, more of these recordings have been posted. I have yet to hear one conversation recording where Dan says he’s innocent or his mother for that matter. For many years, they conversed in code. And they rarely if at all bring up Wendi’s name.
I just keep seeing the old, old commercial with Charlie the Cat, and he wanted something he couldn't have, and the announcer said, "Sorry Charlie." with sad music. I keep hearing that over and over.
Hes not gonna make it in Prison. Ive never heard anything like him in my life! DA,HA are fools now for being optimistic😂 This is gold,the gift that keeps givingn RIP DAN MARKEL🙏 An Aldelson hast beat you yet,with two more wins still to come, please God 🙏
Donna’s only listening to him go on and on for hours because she doesn’t want him to become overwhelmed and frustrated to the point where he would turn on her and give her up for the role she played in the plot to kill Dan.
Charlie thinks that Georgia thought that Charlie HELD UP WELL under questioning and that the public thought that also ? "Poor Charlie ! He's delusional! " .
Do Roman a favour, let Brie move on, find a good man, you give him up and let a good man give him his surname. You will be a distant memory. That Charlie is what a decent sperm donor would do. The poor child is saddled for doom at the moment.
I haven't heard Charlie mention how he is going to provide for his son, or the mother of his child, in his absence. He does mention to Bri that she will need to move out very soon so that he can sell or rent his place. (He did say that he hoped that letting her stay there for a year was helpful. 🙄) You would think that a man who wanted to be a father would be thinking long term of the child, not just what he wanted to do with his son.
With Dan as donna and Charlies lawyer they can freely speek and communicate. If they did not have the same lawyer they would never be allowed to speek again
When he was arrested was Sigfredo driving Harvey’s old car. In remember hearing SR was driving a Lexus when he got arrested and I think the car Katie got from Charlie was a Lexus.
Charlie was so optimistic he was going home, he gave away all his food, shirts, socks to his jailhouse buddies. Where exactly were these “so many people” who believed that he gave believable, factual, testimony, and that he deserved to be found guilty??? In all the comments I have read throughout the years about this case, I don’t believe I ever read one. Charlie makes it sound as if there was a sudden groundswell of support for him? Geesh.
At 23:45........oh the irony when he tells Donna that Brie will never change his name. I'm sure that comment went right over Donna and Charlie's brain as to understanding the comparison of the Markel boys having their name changed.
First time he mentioned his son, who he never treated like a son. i gotta admit Donna acting like a concerned mother should. How they ruined their lives, to do something for manipulator, Wendi who had them dancing for her.
Attention Charlie: you didn't win your cross examination. I didn't see a single comment that said that on any platform. Maybe in your mind and your echo chamber, but no where else.
Little did they know that mastermind mama was soon to follow right behind Charlie’s footsteps. I wonder if they still think that killing Dan was a good idea. Justice will never be served for these two. They got away with their crime for 9+ free years.
There's Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers, Sonny and Cher, Amber and Johnny - and now we have Charlie and Prosecutor Georgia. Their names and contest and life changing trial memories are forever intertwined.
Charlie still has the opportunity to raise his child and see them grow up. You took that opportunity from Dan Markel. I have no empathy for the Adelsons (except Rob 😂)
I know this is not going to be a popular post. But these calls almost make me feel bad for Charlie. I don't think he has a true friend in the world. Every call seams like what others can still get from him. Now that doesn't change the fact that he got what he deserves in this case, but damn
Well I didn’t follow this case. I happened to see the trial on court tv and I started watching Charlie testify. I immediately knew he was guilty. Charlie is just in denial. Soon he will accept what had happened. I pray that he will ask God for forgiveness. That will bring him peace. Other than that I hope he can do some good in prison and find some kind of new normal. I don’t feel sorry for him but I don’t wish harm on anyone..🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
The Adelsons are on a wild trip. They've become and have formed for themselves an American odyssey. And a compelling true crime phenomenon. Years in the making and it just keeps on giving.
It absolutely amazes me that this man can sit there and watch the whole video of himself and Katie at Dolce and still not realize. Just like a narcissist. When they don’t get their way they’ll find every way they can to twist and turn things to where they’ve been treated unfairly. This guy’s right where he belongs and soon mother dearest and sister sweetheart will be too.
I now understand how they came up with the idea to kill Dan. They just agree with whatever nonsense the other person is saying until they all believe it.. it's truly amazing to listen to
The smoking gun that points to Wendy’s involvement and guilt is that Donna wrote “everyone looks to protect you. I bet you have a lot to think about.” That is what implicates her. Charlie is worried about Wendi maybe only because he’s afraid Wendy will cut a deal if that’s even possible. Charlie still has hope for appeal so he is worried about Wendi making it harder. Of course it’s impossible - he’s never getting out.
I was thinking he would "squeal" on Wendi After all his appeals had been exhausted. It sounds like he may realize that isn't going to take very long... this could get interesting faster than I thought it might !
Bottom line to his and Donna “innocence”….the murderers come to you days after the murder of Dan, and the best solution Charlie and Donna have is to pay them…don’t tell the authorities, your sister, anyone about who did it and where they live. Then continue to pay Katherine as an employee (that doesn’t work ) allow your sister to move to where the murderers are. And the Charlie and Donna never tell anyone? Bump creates secret meetings to… I guess to protect the exploiters? Flying one way to Vietnam to avoid clown tv show in a back woods town speaks of innocence….just because some speaks slow doesn’t mean they are stupid.
No Charlie, it is not the jury’s fault, the judges fault, the prosecutors fault or the people of Tallahassee fault. It is YOUR fault you are where you are. Period.
They spend so much time talking about everyone else, and how all this impacted him…. He doesn’t talk about the father of his nephews being impacted, doesn’t talk about the Markel family being impacted….you would think that if he was innocent, he would only talk about the tragedy of Dan’s murder. They never say anything about Dan….or Dan’s kids being without their father.
And I’m not sure Charlie even CARED where Wendi lived- he wanted to please his mom, imo, and probably got off on being able to pull it off! He almost DID! Now moms on the chopping block and Wendi seems smug as ever, probably looking forward to writing another book
It would have been a more logical story that Dan’s face attacked the gun.
Get angry with Wendi and give Danny Justice
Amen, Tammy 100% agreed! 🤬
Dan missed out watching his two sons grow up because of the choices Charlie made. I hope Charlie aches in his heart daily as his son grows up without him. Justice was serviced. RIP Dan Markel.
Amen
And that’s the part that nobody is talking about… these boys are the victims here too. They’ve lost so much. Dan’s boys may lose both parents. I feel such a sadness for their loss at such young ages.
I’m not so sure Charlie cares that much about his Son. He seemed much more concerned about his dogs, (the one that passed and the current dog) much more than his child imo 😮
Amen
This family is truly evil. They have no regret or remorse
Here Charlie is talking about people coming to visit him in prison and obviously really wanting that connection with others. And Donna is making plans to flee the country and never see him again. I mean, wow. this family is nuts.
Shows how really whacko they are, but also that they have no TRUE loyalty to each other after all is said & done!! Narcissistic Psychopaths ALL of them!
Lol
Your not alone we will be there for you. Maybe Wendi will help us find a country that does not do extradition.
I bet Charlie wishes he left like Rob.
And the irony is, the ring leader is in the slammer now. Now she really does know. Harvey has to make sure he's putting money on everyone's books.
The Adelsons belong in prison, but it is gut wrenching to think about knowing you will never again see anything that was once familiar to you. Everything, including your past identity, has been taken forever. And now that Donna is arrested, Charlie will never speak to his mother again in his life. And yet even in this hopeless reality, there is absolutely no self-reflection on what they did to get themselves in this situation.
Entitlement doesn't allow for self reflection or insight.
@@tigerlily9536 - So true! Thank you.
They’ll speak again. These people will never fully be punished. Him being able to talk on the phone for hours to people? There are innocent God fearing people that can’t talk to loved ones because they don’t have money to have a phone, but Charlie and Donna talk for hours. It’s bull!
You can't help but think about the extreme shift in lifestyle for them. As charlie said in a call "rich, white, jewish"; they had it all and chose to throw it away. It's remarkable they thought the crimes were worth it.
It’s great that his Lawyer’s name is Dan. So they have to say his name while they suffer 😂
That !!!!! lol
I wondered if that was an odd consciousness of guilt or if it bothers the lawyer, himself, being sane profession and name sake as the man these thugs took out
Basically he said "Ive prepared this deception for YEARS now, i had it COMPLETELY memorized..... and they STILL didn't believe me!!".
When he’s talking to people
He NEVER says he didn’t do it. He just expresses his frustration that the trial didn’t go his way. Very telling.
Yes! I have noticed the same - it's all the other things that got him - the jury, city of Tally, the prosecutor etc, not the fact that he was clearly involved in the murder. Never once does he show anger or frustration for being in there as an innocent person, because he isn''t innocent.
Dan Markel had two children that will never see him again because of these two. No sympathy from me.
i was typing the same thing...
Not a drop of sympathy
Wonderful! The phenomenal Georgia the torpedo is residing rent free in Charlie’s brainpan. That is an awesome reality. Enjoy your new living quarters Charlie.
They really are delusional. Cracks me up that he's complaining about the jury telling lies about prejudging and yet this whole family exists on lying when it's convenient for them. Nothing is ever their fault.. Sad.
So true, I love how Donna tells Charlie how she will come to visit him in prison....be kinda hard when she was flying off to Vietnam. I guess long distance visits were on the agenda.
Wendi needs to be arrested!!!
@@Globelleyeah shackled to that pathetic daddy.
Poor Charlie ! The mental torture of spending the rest of his life without his son ! Gee, I wonder what Dan Markel was feeling about his Ben-Ben and Lincoln without him having totally freedom to be a dad with them !
Tallahassee wishes this family a merry Christmas and a miserable New Year 😊
Well I must say Donna was pretty lucky, least with Charlie already goin to jail he could give her a heads up about life behind bars for when she arrived there.
Hearing their own words about how unfair everything was for them with no regard for Dan or his sons finally explains how they were able to commit murder. Family of narcissists. I'm so sorry Dan. Your sweet boys should be with your parents.
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All the anger and bitterness directed at Georgia instead of the person who supposedly extorted him. And in other tapes he talks about what he should have done in the past, like listened to his gut and taken a vacation (code for fleeing). Never does he say “Why didn’t I call the police the first night I got extorted by Katie?” There is never any reference that would corroborate his defense argument.
If anyone had a sliver of doubt about his guilt, the words of Charlie in these tapes should remove it.
This sticks out to me for sure. There's no anger about being in jail, and then convicted as an innocent person, they instead pick apart the jury, the prosecutor, the fact that the trial was held in Tallahassee and more . I can only assume someone who was innocent would be concerned about THEIR OWN INNOCENCE, not all of those other smaller factors.
@@Dansnov1086 exactly
The case was international in other calls in this one it is worldwide. He talks and talks and talks… convincing himself - it’s his story and he’s sticking to it!!!!
I must have missed the Once Upon a Time, part of the story.
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"No Charlie you don't look the same anymore.. you look like a Washed up Beetlejuice.. and for you Donna..you use the word "Facts" never the word "Truth.. because that requires"Honesty". Look in the mirror and try that for a change..
😂😂😂😂😂
Donna cannot be around mirrors 🤷♀️
I'm still trying to figure out what all these facts are that she's talking about. Then to say the prosecution didn't have any facts... except of course emails, calls, money trail, motive, etc...
I also love how he's bashing Georgia saying all she was interested in was sending him to prison... ummm... so doing her job? Lol
He's complaining about a lifetime without being able to see his son grow, she's in misery for having lost her son to prison for the rest of their lives, yet it never dawns on either of them how much pain and suffering they caused by murdering a good father of two sons ... who they'll obviously never see again.
Charlie talking about missing activities with his boy. Dan & his parents don’t have that privilege either.
Merci ma belle Gigi 💕
It's amazing that he never says, "Mom, I didn't murder Dan! I had nothing to do with this? How did I get here? What can I do? How did this all occur?" Never once does he deny what he has been convicted of! Charlie IS where he belongs! Thank goodness the jury got it right. 💥🔒 No more fancy cars, boats, jetski's, women, stocks, bonds, a doctorate level job with good income, no relations with real women, no real intimacy with a real woman, no father/son bonding or time, no sunshine on the beach, no real friends, no more scamming people in the real world, no trips, no more underage prost\tut€s overseas or in the US, and no more need to buy staples or a stapler 😂
Boom 😂👍👍
Nobody seems to be mentioning Charlie's future. He's not going to prison.. . He is going to a camp, he is a rich Jewish boy that's going to an Aryan Nation camp. He will hate life so much probably drown his self in the toilet
There is no way a periodontist can make 2.5 million a year. He had to be doing something illegal. I know, my husband was in a dental specialty.
@@little_old_grannydoc and only handle cash
@@little_old_grannydoc
The family had 14 rental units at the time his net was calibrated. He had a share of that it's all in a trust. He was selling drugs on the side, I don't believe that was for money as much as it was to meet drug addict girls. Just my opinion. He keeps on saying they don't have any evidence and yet he admitted financing the murder. How do you finance a murder without being responsible for that murder in one way or another. I guess that's not evidence. They made me do it?
hi pretty.... thanks so much ..your tapes are sooo much better!...what a sad story... every word that comes out of donna's mouth is pure evil and I am so happy she will be locked up forever! tkss
Textbook examples of malignant narcissism and how dangerous and destructive these people can be. They will never change. The irony that he's complaining about what he'll miss out on with his son. Chilling. They do not have an empathetic bone in their bodies.
Just like you
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Yep, Charlie ! That jury consultant did a World of Good !
Thank you for the transcript 🙌 You've done a lot of work! 🙌💥❣️
17:25 Charlie should have thought about ALL of this BEFORE he helped coordinate the hit on Dan. Dan's sons don't know him either because of YOU and your families evil actions.
In this recording Donna doesn't know her time is up too ⌛️ Karma. Watch your words; they become your actions; your actions determine your fate.
He only mourns what he is missing out on with his son and the fun stuff he could do. He doesn't seem to feel guilty that it is his actions that deprived his son of having a present father and good role model.
He now only beginning to see the see the worth of the son. This is the very son that the baby had to go to court, just to get him to pay child support and put him on his health insurance. He suddenly found love for the child only after a life sentence smh
Never considering he took Dan away from his sons. Selfish self center, the whole family.
They are arrogant, self entitled people, every one of them.
he cries more about the dog than his son
Yep. He's disgusting
Thank you for all your hard work 👍🏽
Luis Rivera’s public defender gave him the best advice. Charlie and Katie should have done the same thing.
Great point & very true!
WHat was the advice? Did he take a plea?
@@Dansnov1086 yes, he’s doing only 19 years or so, but not all those years are for this murder. He was a leader in a dangerous gang and convicted in federal court for some gang stuff too. he’s definitely going to get out before he’s an old man, unlike Charlie!
@@frankdux3605 Got it. KM turned down immunity too, didn't she
Little does Donna know she will experience all of this first hand herself soon
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"Foolishly optimistic " Charlie said to his mum
I still hope she is in the same cell with p**p on the ceiling😂😂
Yes Charlie just keep convincing yourself that the piles of evidence had nothing to do with any of it!!
Why on earth would you want your son to visit you in Prison?? Is he supposed to be proud that his dad is in for Murmur??
Donna Enableson
His defense “strategy” was terrible, he payed top dollar for his defense to come up with such a lame story. It’s insulting for them to think the jury would buy that .
He’s in prison, so is his mother , and Wendi is distancing herself from them and living the life she wanted 🤦🏾♀️ that’s the current tragedy, she’s the reason this murder took place . Hope justice comes to full circle soon , for the Markel’s🙏🏾
Hearing donna weep, knowing it is self inflicted...gives me hope that justice is being done. Mom and son are inhuman. Probably others in that family too.
I don't think they're inhuman at all. They're all too human. That's what makes this the true crime compelling case the phenomenon it is.
Wendi is as guilty as they are and has ZERO Remorse for what she has done to Dan or her family. I wonder if she will go to visit them in prison.
She was packing her bags during this call… so glad they nabbed her 😂😂😂
Both Charlie and Donna are DELUSIONAL on these calls. And he knows it's being recorded so he's pointing out the "coincidences' that happened that day. Oh Charlie, haven't you ever heard there are no coincidences? And poor Dan's kids are struggling to go to school, according to Donna. But she thinks they'll just bounce back from it?
I think Charlie talks to just hear himself talk.....and talk & talk.
2:00 Charlie said at the beginning of this phone call “obviously I have a tremendous amount of regret” and Donna replied “I know”
Sadly I think their only regret is not getting away with it 😮
@@astrialindah2773 I don’t know. I’m not team adelson to say the least, but there is a part
Of me that feels they, or at least Charlie, regrets what they have done. They’ve ruin SO many lives including so many children.
Charlie just regrets getting caught and getting a biased jury! NOT
And a projector who " made stuff up. I think he said, "lie after lie after lie". Poor baby.
I agree 100%
I agree
I don’t like Donna, either, but I cannot believe the degree of selfishness Charlie has, hearing his Mom breaking down, hardly able to speak, the hopelessness in her voice and yet still just sitting there, droning on in her ear about the horrible circumstances he is in, etc. These people are the most self-centered, unfeeling people in the world. So disgusting.
They are all very self centered. He's telling them how much he needs them to come visit, take care of his finances and Roman and they're reassuring him they will. "We just have a lot to take care of a few things first" they say as they make plans to skip the country. I'm sure much of her sadness is guilt knowing she's ditching her whole family.
How can these two talk like they’re innocent? It’s mind boggling. I get pleading not guilty as a Hail Mary but when that doesn’t work, at least do some self reflection. And no one wants to be in prison for the rest of their lives. People like him and Donna normalize insane decisions and are surprised when it doesn’t work and will die with that lie.
Best quality audio - thank you so much for all your efforts.
Why is it that Wendi will only speak to her parents in person? If she's innocent in Dan's death she wouldn't be fearful of speaking on the phone and texting. I want to see her behind bars too!
Yep.
But her Mother is crazy and loose lipped. She gave the Prosecutor the best bit of evidence on a wiretap. Charlie pressed her to reveal though. "The both of us."
I agree but also she knows they did it and she doesn’t want to be implicated
I looked up Charlie's mugshot at the prison they just transferred him and they shaved his head. He definitely looks scared. I'm sure reality is setting in. I feel for his son but Dan didn't get to see his kids grow so this is a payback for what him and his family did to Dan.
Oh, may I ask where to find the mugshot?
@@cail171 sure. Go to Florida department of corrections and click on the offender search and put in Charles not Charlie.
@@allaboutcrime1972 Thank you ......I've just taken a look!! Lol is he trying to look rough and tough in case he's forced into General Population?? He has no idea that its the R's and P's that get the special treatment of Protective Custody ....lol do you think he has just found out?? 😂😂😂
He looks better shaven if thats possible!
Wendi needs to be arrested
Something just occurred to me. Is Donna crying so hard because she knows she's planning on leaving the country and not EVER seeing Charlie again? Is she scared because she's afraid they're coming after her too? I'm just not convinced that this evil woman's tears are because of feelings of remorse.
she has 0 remorse she has said she thinks Dan is haunting them
💯 I said the same. He's telling her he needs them to be there for him and his son and they are lying to his face, reassuring him, all the while they are searching for ways to skip the country.
its disgraceful donna says they were all looking forward to Monday to be not guilty I am positive dan was looking forward to Monday as well horrible people
Yep. In another call with his house made / girlfriend she talks about having his bar stocked the way he likes it for the big aquittal party!
@@leelatham1785 crazy people every where lol. They truly thought they were untouchable otherwise i doubt any of them would be expecting an acquittal if at all they paid any attention to the evidence presented in court. It seems all that matters to them is what they say and want
I can't understand how they actually believed he would be found not Guilty? Especially when they 💯 know they did the crime!!!
Georgia's career did not depend on this case she was well-qualified.... Prior to this case.
Charlie, Wendi, Donna and Harvey....Dan didnt look the same with 2 bullets in his head. Tell the truth for once!! Repent.
No accountability ,with Charlie, and who will he complain to now that mom is locked up. Maybe they will find out how awful life is when your loved one is taken. These are awful people , I hope they rot in hexx
Oh, poor Charlie. Everything would've been just fine hadn't the pesky legal system gotten in the way. So unfair. 😂
When this murder happend Charlie didn't have a child. Maybe if he did he would have understood what Danny was fighting for and would have stayed out of his sisters business.
Donna and Harvey are such liars! We’ll be there Charlie all while having already purchased one way tickets to Vietnam. 😂😂
imagine the surprise Charlie would have had had the parents made the flight 5 hours a day conversation with mom would have been really missed remember they told friend do not tell Charlie about these plans
huh? makes zero sense
Thanks for the calls
Just think not too long after this conversation his mother Donna was arrested. She now sits in a jail cell. This family lived eight years after the murder, carefree. Do they truly have no conscience? What still remains astonishing is that they truly believed they would get away with murder. Talk about entitled and delusional. The wheels of justice have turned slowly, but they are starting to move in the right direction. Donna seems very measured in her responses and Harvey talks very little. In the last few days, more of these recordings have been posted. I have yet to hear one conversation recording where Dan says he’s innocent or his mother for that matter. For many years, they conversed in code. And they rarely if at all bring up Wendi’s name.
Harvey speaks only when Donna says he's allowed to.
And "innocent" Wendi will only speak to her parents in person. Hmmm.
I just keep seeing the old, old commercial with Charlie the Cat, and he wanted something he couldn't have, and the announcer said, "Sorry Charlie." with sad music. I keep hearing that over and over.
you went way back. I think it was a tuna fish commercial.
He anticipated the verdict because he. Knew what he did!
Hes not gonna make it in Prison. Ive never heard anything like him in my life! DA,HA are fools now for being optimistic😂 This is gold,the gift that keeps givingn RIP DAN MARKEL🙏 An Aldelson hast beat you yet,with two more wins still to come, please God 🙏
The more he disses the DA the more i detest him. Is that normal?
I love how Wendi said “ see y’all later, peace ✌️” They’re all getting what they damn well deserve 😊
Donna’s only listening to him go on and on for hours because she doesn’t want him to become overwhelmed and frustrated to the point where he would turn on her and give her up for the role she played in the plot to kill Dan.
Charlie thinks that Georgia thought that Charlie HELD UP WELL under questioning and that the public thought that also ? "Poor Charlie ! He's delusional! " .
Yes, Charlie's statements made it sound like a chess game. Ridiculous.
Do Roman a favour, let Brie move on, find a good man, you give him up and let a good man give him his surname. You will be a distant memory. That Charlie is what a decent sperm donor would do. The poor child is saddled for doom at the moment.
Roman will eventually get even for his fathers injustice but you;ll be dead before that happens fool
He’s blaming everyone for his actions and that the jury was bias.
Dan has two sons that don’t have a father. Charlie why no remorse for Dan’s children? Wake up and repent.
oh,waaaa waaaaa ! Poor Charlie and the jury pool !
Now Donna really can say " I know" when he talks about jail. Donna is getting acquainted with jail.
I am shocked that Charlie Donna and Harvey thought Charlie was going to win his case
Funny how Charlie & Donna still believe the jury consultant was “the best decision that money can buy”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I haven't heard Charlie mention how he is going to provide for his son, or the mother of his child, in his absence. He does mention to Bri that she will need to move out very soon so that he can sell or rent his place. (He did say that he hoped that letting her stay there for a year was helpful. 🙄) You would think that a man who wanted to be a father would be thinking long term of the child, not just what he wanted to do with his son.
With Dan as donna and Charlies lawyer they can freely speek and communicate. If they did not have the same lawyer they would never be allowed to speek again
KEEP MOCKING MS.CAPPLEMAN😂 she'll remember that when she's cross examining your mamma😂😂😂😂
At this point Donna had to be freaking out . Just worrying constantly thinking any second now they’re coming for me.
When he was arrested was Sigfredo driving Harvey’s old car. In remember hearing SR was driving a Lexus when he got arrested and I think the car Katie got from Charlie was a Lexus.
Charlie was so optimistic he was going home, he gave away all his food, shirts, socks to his jailhouse buddies. Where exactly were these “so many people” who believed that he gave believable, factual, testimony, and that he deserved to be found guilty??? In all the comments I have read throughout the years about this case, I don’t believe I ever read one. Charlie makes it sound as if there was a sudden groundswell of support for him? Geesh.
They live in Adelsonville.
@@richdenisevangessel1999 🤣😂 TY!
PRETTY LIES YOU ARE A QUEEN!! TY ❤ TY SO MUCH!
At 23:45........oh the irony when he tells Donna that Brie will never change his name. I'm sure that comment went right over Donna and Charlie's brain as to understanding the comparison of the Markel boys having their name changed.
Definition of Appeal does not change the verdict
No chance all procedures were followed by the letter of the law and the judge made sure of it
First time he mentioned his son, who he never treated like a son. i gotta admit Donna acting like a concerned mother should. How they ruined their lives, to do something for manipulator, Wendi who had them dancing for her.
Attention Charlie: you didn't win your cross examination. I didn't see a single comment that said that on any platform. Maybe in your mind and your echo chamber, but no where else.
Charlie’s sure getting a lot of favors. The person I know in prison doesn’t get to talk on the phone for 65 minutes at a time.
This was in Leon County Jail.
Leon county Jail took away visitation but gave everyone a tablet so this is the same favors given to the entire jail..
@@Andreascorn seriously? That doesn’t sound safe…. You can break it have jagged edges make a weapon out of it.
They killed Dan. Period
Little did they know that mastermind mama was soon to follow right behind Charlie’s footsteps.
I wonder if they still think that killing Dan was a good idea.
Justice will never be served for these two. They got away with their crime for 9+ free years.
What's really bizarre is that here you have the two of them discussing how he got a raw deal and they both knew they did it.
There's Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers, Sonny and Cher, Amber and Johnny - and now we have Charlie and Prosecutor Georgia. Their names and contest and life changing trial memories are forever intertwined.
Hey, Charle, Donna “it’s different now isn’t it!” Soon it will be different for Wendi too! 😳🤥👨🏾⚖️
These calls make her look even more guilty!
It's called Karma Chuckles!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Charlie still has the opportunity to raise his child and see them grow up. You took that opportunity from Dan Markel. I have no empathy for the Adelsons (except Rob 😂)
How Charlie never thinks about what Dan Markel missed😳 doesn’t even register what he did to his nephews. Sociopath.
I know this is not going to be a popular post. But these calls almost make me feel bad for Charlie. I don't think he has a true friend in the world. Every call seams like what others can still get from him. Now that doesn't change the fact that he got what he deserves in this case, but damn
Well I didn’t follow this case.
I happened to see the trial on court tv and I started watching Charlie testify.
I immediately knew he was guilty.
Charlie is just in denial. Soon he will accept what had happened.
I pray that he will ask God for forgiveness.
That will bring him peace.
Other than that I hope he can do some good in prison and find some kind of new normal.
I don’t feel sorry for him but I don’t wish harm on anyone..🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
oh what a tangled web we weave.......
The Adelsons are on a wild trip. They've become and have formed for themselves an American odyssey. And a compelling true crime phenomenon. Years in the making and it just keeps on giving.
It absolutely amazes me that this man can sit there and watch the whole video of himself and Katie at Dolce and still not realize. Just like a narcissist. When they don’t get their way they’ll find every way they can to twist and turn things to where they’ve been treated unfairly. This guy’s right where he belongs and soon mother dearest and sister sweetheart will be too.
I pray to God that they get Wendi. Her smurky response when she said "They will never prociduce me"
I now understand how they came up with the idea to kill Dan. They just agree with whatever nonsense the other person is saying until they all believe it.. it's truly amazing to listen to
The smoking gun that points to Wendy’s involvement and guilt is that Donna wrote “everyone looks to protect you. I bet you have a lot to think about.” That is what implicates her. Charlie is worried about Wendi maybe only because he’s afraid Wendy will cut a deal if that’s even possible. Charlie still has hope for appeal so he is worried about Wendi making it harder. Of course it’s impossible - he’s never getting out.
Small time Tally took down Miami
I was thinking he would "squeal" on Wendi After all his appeals had been exhausted. It sounds like he may realize that isn't going to take very long... this could get interesting faster than I thought it might !
Bottom line to his and Donna “innocence”….the murderers come to you days after the murder of Dan, and the best solution Charlie and Donna have is to pay them…don’t tell the authorities, your sister, anyone about who did it and where they live. Then continue to pay Katherine as an employee (that doesn’t work ) allow your sister to move to where the murderers are. And the Charlie and Donna never tell anyone? Bump creates secret meetings to… I guess to protect the exploiters? Flying one way to Vietnam to avoid clown tv show in a back woods town speaks of innocence….just because some speaks slow doesn’t mean they are stupid.
Thanks Gigi