The Ultimate at Lightwater Valley would’ve been a good one for this list. I don’t think the park ever recovered from that investment & I’m pretty sure that park’s days are numbered because they announced that ride isn’t gonna open this year at all
Honestly If I come near Lightwater valley and see that Ultimate is closed, not gonna bother going there plus they removed raptor attack, their wildcat model and a few of their thrill rides so this is just unfortunate.
When I went to Kings Dominion before Twisted Timbers came out, I waited longer to ride Racer 75, Avalanche, and even Boo Blasters than Intimidator 305. Excellent video with interesting information.
I got to ride Intimidator 305 before they changed the track . I loved it. Rode it like 3 times and had a little grey out at bottom of that first drop. Didn't stop me from going back though.
My niece got off top thrill dragster. The operator asked "how was that ride" she shouted out "it sucked. up. down. you payed 27 million dollars for that"
Vertigo at Walibi Belgium comes to mind - low capacity and extremely unreliable, it only operated for a few days at a time over the course of few years before the park gave up and had it removed.
Great video! As a former AstroWorld ride op. We had the 3rd Arrow suspended & revamped Togo Ultra Twister (we made it run better) XLR-8 was our Arrow. Marketed as speeds of 50ft. per second (translation 34 mph!) It had to to re welded a lot.Big Bad Wolf ran 48 mph!!! It ran from 1984-2005 when the park was demolished. It was the ONLY Arrow suspended to have some cars face backwards! Twister had main lift modified with a 45 degree and lift + hydraulic oil changed for Houston, TX climate. 3 computers ran it. It was a fan favorite *the most reliably run Togo in a Six Flags park* Yeah!!!! 1990-2005 It took over month to plasma torch cut XLR-8. While the Bat was "under engineered" OMG! AW was different thickness of steel in track + columns.
I got to visit Astroworld with my cousin in 2002. XLR8 was a fun ride. But Ultra Twister was easily our favorite in the park. It was so unique. I so wish it could've been reassembled in Maryland.
I have fond memories of wind jammer but only because it was the first coaster I road with a loop. I also liked how it was always a walk on ride, if the line was 5min long it was a long wait.
in the early days of Bobbejaanland in Belgium. The rapids ride had a ferriswheel feature that the boats got on and they would slide down a big slide and splash back in the water... The wheel is still there but never used anymore.
I rode Green Lantern at SFMM, The spot the ride in was small and the ride fit great there... I liked the ride myself and tried to ride it every time i went to the park while it was operating...
Next you should do the biggest rollercoaster successes (by how people rated it) Here are some ideas: Big One at Blackpool Pleasure beach (This made the classic park on the map) New Texas giant at Six flags over Texas (It wowed everyone) Magnum XL 200 at Cedar point (It intimidated the everyone) Original Bat at Kings Island (People really loved it) Cannibal at Lagoon (Same with the Big One)
I got batman and robin: the chiller credits with the in-line twists and let me say, I wish it was still here 😞 my favorite coaster to this day. It just had something about it, idk.
An RMC with terrible operations? Well I never. Also I305 is way in the back of the freaking park. Maybe that's why they put Fury right front and center, you've gotta see it to get in.
The thing about Twist Coaster Robin being open for one day can probably be traced back to Japan. Japanese culture places a lot more emphasis on responsibility and formal apology. I would automatically distrust a coaster that had a relatively serious incident *on its first day*, and I would bet that, to Yomiuriland, TCR was an absolute embarrassment. It seems that the reason it just never opened again was a way for them to apologize for a coaster that, in the public eye, was "clearly unsafe", and "damaged beyond repair" was an easy way to permanently close it without bringing attention to its new notoriety.
I should clarify: I say it was Japan because of the heavy response that Yomiuriland gave to the incident. If a coaster had a first day incident in the US, for example, I would most likely see the parks saying something like "this ride clearly wasn't ready on opening day, we'll take a closer look and try again" rather than permanently closing it
I think the most interesting was the round about I like the Idea of combining a ferris wheel maybe another manufacturer could make a good one like vekoma since they made gravity max so maybe they could get it to work
When I went to KD the wait for i305 was strangely longer during ERT because what was open was very limited and people like us who go to coaster con are the croud that likes i305. Even though I305 is a top 5 coaster for me, that tells you everything you need to know.
The swarm is NOT a flop. The issue is the company that owns it had no interest in building the park up thats the reason it hasn't had a new coaster not because the swarm flopped.
@@GreatAmericanCoaster - we should compare the Ticket prices from year to year with this attendance drop.. The park could have pissed everyone off with a giant price increase.
@@Gabes1321 It's the only rough coaster where I don't mind because it feels like part of the theming, like a Saw trap. Compared to Colossus where it just feels janky and old it's so much better
The Swarm is my favourite coaster at Thorpe Park, but that isn't saying much. The only other wing coaster I've ridden was Gatekeeper and that was obviously better, but moreover was good on both sides, (best in the back car) whereas Swarm was only good on the right side (also best In the back car). ALSO: Thorpe park was my third favourite park after Alton Towers and Blackpool, both of which not only had better coaster lineups in my opinion, but also better top three of my favourite coasters in the U.K. I've ridden (The Smiler and Icon, respectively; I've not yet ridden Megaphobia or The Ultimate). But I'd agree when you say: "Sorry Thorpe Park" (except I'd add "not sorry!")
got to ride the rollercoaster ferriswheel by premier rides as i like to call it. it was fun back when it was maximum rpm not roundabout. back WHEN IT WAS HARDROCK/freestyle park. it was fun but it broke down alot
Lol that jab at T3 speaks to me on a personal level. If the was ever a coaster I wish KK would get rid of its that one. Hopefully the rumored new coaster Ed Hart is preparing to add to the park will be another knockout like Lightning Run or Storm Chaser.
Been to Magic Mountain several times, only rode Green Lantern once and that was all I needed. Not only was the ride VERY forceful and intense but it was just straight up uncomfortable to ride. Imagine pulling 3 to 4 Gs upside down with bulky awkward metal restraints. It was NOT fun.
I dont think it was the swarms fault thorpe hasn't got a new coaster yet but actually Darren brown's ghost train as it was one of merlins most expensive investments ever and had so many problems and ended up being a huge flop and very problematic and have stayed off investing from thorpe since. Most likely because it hasn't payed itself off yet to get a new coaster as the probably dont want double debt for the park
Thorpe will get a new coaster maybe in 2023 or 2024 and it’s not a RMC or hyper Edit: Also Derron Browns ghost train was a great investment (Controversial opinion)since they didn’t really have any dark rides and it was perfect for people who wanted to get scared.
@@gabrielbosley9008 sure, mean streak lasted for 25 years. It's just that no one rode it after the 1st year. It failed majorly to bring traffic to that section of the park. 2 years after Mean Streak was built, that section was a ghost town. Surely you remember this.
@@nv_spartan1771 Mean Streak had its thunder stolen within a year when Rattler opened at Fiesta Texas and took away everything Mean Streak had just broken. After that, it had the same problem as every other Dinn Corporation woodie, it became uncomfortably rough despite efforts to tame it.
@@JCBro-yg8vd Rattler had nothing to do with Mean Streak's ridership. People quickly stopped riding Mean Streak because it sucked as a coaster. A lot of people complained that riding Mean Streak would give them headaches for hours, so they quit riding it. The ride was a complete failure because it failed to bring people to the back of the park.
my guess is that the coaster in 1# was considered '' beyond repair '' because of the reputation of coaster accidents in japan. No one would ride it ever again when they heard it had an accident ...yes japan is this dense
@@GreatAmericanCoaster You must've had a bad experience. Blue Streak is definitely bumpy, but it shouldn't have been *THAT* bumpy. Cedar Point's been pretty good at maintaining it. Depending on when you went it might have been in need of a retracking.
Note: Wrong about Sansei Yusoki being a knock off company, I was an idiot on that one.
No need to call yourself an idiot. We all make mistakes!
I wouldn't blame you. Even when S&S and Vekoma were bought by them, nobody says "Sansei" after S&S or Vekoma.
At least you admit it, it's okay
Thorpe Park probably had less attendance in 2012 due to being in the same city as the London 2012 Olympics...
The company that built twist coaster robin is actually the parent company of S&S
It practically is an s and a el loco
@@m244we exactly
IIRC they'd bought/merged with S&S shortly before they made Twist Coaster Robin. I'm not sure the exact timeline
Yeah it was Sansei technologies
They built it before they merged with S&S worldwide to form S&S Sansei
The Ultimate at Lightwater Valley would’ve been a good one for this list. I don’t think the park ever recovered from that investment & I’m pretty sure that park’s days are numbered because they announced that ride isn’t gonna open this year at all
Honestly If I come near Lightwater valley and see that Ultimate is closed, not gonna bother going there plus they removed raptor attack, their wildcat model and a few of their thrill rides so this is just unfortunate.
When I went to Kings Dominion before Twisted Timbers came out, I waited longer to ride Racer 75, Avalanche, and even Boo Blasters than Intimidator 305. Excellent video with interesting information.
Two words: Drachen Fire. The doomed from the start Arrow at Busch Gardens Williamsburg.
Geez you really gave Thorpe park a kick in the balls! (I can’t blame you)
sometimes the truth hurts
The launch on hypersonic was incredible.
I got to ride Intimidator 305 before they changed the track . I loved it. Rode it like 3 times and had a little grey out at bottom of that first drop. Didn't stop me from going back though.
A coaster lasting less than a day because of a crash? So it's basically a coaster from the Roller Coaster Tycoon series.
Not gonna lie, I find the ferris wheel lift a fun idea.
My niece got off top thrill dragster. The operator asked "how was that ride" she shouted out "it sucked. up. down. you payed 27 million dollars for that"
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I don’t get why people shy away from i305 if they go and ride coasters like fury. It’s a different type of giga but the gp don’t really know better
Also you called it windjammer surf riders instead of racers
I mean 305 ft coaster already intimading enough, moreover blind-induced 305 ft coaster.
Hence Millenium Force aged very-very well despite some coaster enthusiasm consider it as overated. GP matters far more than we expect
Round About was such a cool concept
A coaster only lasting one day that’s absolutely terrible
Seeing the Swarm on here sadly doesn't surprise me, such as shame it flopped. We could've possibly had two more coasters by now if it succeeded.
Vertigo at Walibi Belgium comes to mind - low capacity and extremely unreliable, it only operated for a few days at a time over the course of few years before the park gave up and had it removed.
I was actually able to ride hyper sonic xlc . But unfortunately guess what was closed that day. Volcano 😒
The one time I've been to Kings Dominion in 2003, I got to ride Hypersonic XLC and Volcano. I never realized how lucky I was until years later😂
@@floridamaddogg 😂 at least you got a ride.
@@tomcollierblognation136 very true. Not to rub it in, but I think we rode it 2 or 3 times that day. Volcano will forever be missed😢
@@floridamaddogg I feel like intamin needs to bring back a new version. I think parks would buy just off the volcano hype itself
Excellent video with interesting information. Keep making lists like these! Subbed.
Great video! As a former AstroWorld ride op. We had the 3rd Arrow suspended & revamped Togo Ultra Twister (we made it run better) XLR-8 was our Arrow. Marketed as speeds of 50ft. per second (translation 34 mph!) It had to to re welded a lot.Big Bad Wolf ran 48 mph!!! It ran from 1984-2005 when the park was demolished. It was the ONLY Arrow suspended to have some cars face backwards! Twister had main lift modified with a 45 degree and lift + hydraulic oil changed for Houston, TX climate. 3 computers ran it. It was a fan favorite *the most reliably run Togo in a Six Flags park* Yeah!!!! 1990-2005 It took over month to plasma torch cut XLR-8. While the Bat was "under engineered" OMG! AW was different thickness of steel in track + columns.
I got to visit Astroworld with my cousin in 2002. XLR8 was a fun ride. But Ultra Twister was easily our favorite in the park. It was so unique. I so wish it could've been reassembled in Maryland.
Just think Lightning Rod could’ve been on this list if it wasn’t considered a fan favorite.
Hypersonic was great when it worked. KD is our home park, and I rode it at least twice.
I have fond memories of wind jammer but only because it was the first coaster I road with a loop. I also liked how it was always a walk on ride, if the line was 5min long it was a long wait.
Merlin don't care about thorpe at all. They treat the park like rubbish
It was 2014 when Flight Deck was renamed Bat
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in the early days of Bobbejaanland in Belgium. The rapids ride had a ferriswheel feature that the boats got on and they would slide down a big slide and splash back in the water... The wheel is still there but never used anymore.
My new favorite Great American Coasters video 😂😂
Nice video as usual!
Biggest Roller Coaster flop in my eyes is Orphan Rocker. I don't believe it ever opened officially, just a few test runs.
I rode Green Lantern at SFMM, The spot the ride in was small and the ride fit great there... I liked the ride myself and tried to ride it every time i went to the park while it was operating...
The Swarm opened in the same year as the London Olympics if that changes anything, 2012 was generally a packed year here so competition was tight
Lmao put the whole park on the list @Hard Rock/Freestyle Park
Next you should do the biggest rollercoaster successes (by how people rated it)
Here are some ideas:
Big One at Blackpool Pleasure beach (This made the classic park on the map)
New Texas giant at Six flags over Texas (It wowed everyone)
Magnum XL 200 at Cedar point (It intimidated the everyone)
Original Bat at Kings Island (People really loved it)
Cannibal at Lagoon (Same with the Big One)
I got batman and robin: the chiller credits with the in-line twists and let me say, I wish it was still here 😞 my favorite coaster to this day. It just had something about it, idk.
Bobbejaanland's El Rio river rapids ride used to have a ferris wheel lift as well.
I was about to comment this, glad someone took notice!
...Though this part is always down isn't it? they now bypass the wheel?
An RMC with terrible operations? Well I never.
Also I305 is way in the back of the freaking park. Maybe that's why they put Fury right front and center, you've gotta see it to get in.
lets be honest the top 9 are a whole different breed of flops to swarm
The thing about Twist Coaster Robin being open for one day can probably be traced back to Japan. Japanese culture places a lot more emphasis on responsibility and formal apology. I would automatically distrust a coaster that had a relatively serious incident *on its first day*, and I would bet that, to Yomiuriland, TCR was an absolute embarrassment. It seems that the reason it just never opened again was a way for them to apologize for a coaster that, in the public eye, was "clearly unsafe", and "damaged beyond repair" was an easy way to permanently close it without bringing attention to its new notoriety.
I should clarify: I say it was Japan because of the heavy response that Yomiuriland gave to the incident. If a coaster had a first day incident in the US, for example, I would most likely see the parks saying something like "this ride clearly wasn't ready on opening day, we'll take a closer look and try again" rather than permanently closing it
I think the most interesting was the round about I like the Idea of combining a ferris wheel maybe another manufacturer could make a good one like vekoma since they made gravity max so maybe they could get it to work
When I went to KD the wait for i305 was strangely longer during ERT because what was open was very limited and people like us who go to coaster con are the croud that likes i305. Even though I305 is a top 5 coaster for me, that tells you everything you need to know.
The swarm is NOT a flop. The issue is the company that owns it had no interest in building the park up thats the reason it hasn't had a new coaster not because the swarm flopped.
did you hear the attendance report
@@GreatAmericanCoaster - we should compare the Ticket prices from year to year with this attendance drop.. The park could have pissed everyone off with a giant price increase.
@@GreatAmericanCoaster Such a factor could've been the 2012 London Olympics
Sequoia Adventure (now Sequoia Magic Loop), a screaming squirrel coaster, at Gardaland (Italy).
You're mostly correct about Thorpe Park but the theming on Saw is way better than POVs suggest, the queue line and dark ride bit are really well done
It’s SO ROUGH
@@Gabes1321 It's the only rough coaster where I don't mind because it feels like part of the theming, like a Saw trap. Compared to Colossus where it just feels janky and old it's so much better
@@TheWolfXCIX I hate both rides!! Well I don’t hate them I just find them rough and don’t like the roughness
I wouldn’t call the zackspin a failure just green lantern, it has had success in europe
I rode green lantern, it was not a bad ride... it was not all that different from the s&s free spin rides now
The Swarm is my favourite coaster at Thorpe Park, but that isn't saying much. The only other wing coaster I've ridden was Gatekeeper and that was obviously better, but moreover was good on both sides, (best in the back car) whereas Swarm was only good on the right side (also best In the back car). ALSO: Thorpe park was my third favourite park after Alton Towers and Blackpool, both of which not only had better coaster lineups in my opinion, but also better top three of my favourite coasters in the U.K. I've ridden (The Smiler and Icon, respectively; I've not yet ridden Megaphobia or The Ultimate). But I'd agree when you say: "Sorry Thorpe Park" (except I'd add "not sorry!")
The Swarm is a GREAT RIDE! I can say the best of ThorpePark. I dont consider as a fail.
Just think there was too many adverts in this video
I totally agree with you. For such a short video too.
Vertigo at walibi Belgium was also a horrible investment for the park
got to ride the rollercoaster ferriswheel by premier rides as i like to call it.
it was fun back when it was maximum rpm not roundabout.
back WHEN IT WAS HARDROCK/freestyle park.
it was fun but it broke down alot
Lol that jab at T3 speaks to me on a personal level. If the was ever a coaster I wish KK would get rid of its that one. Hopefully the rumored new coaster Ed Hart is preparing to add to the park will be another knockout like Lightning Run or Storm Chaser.
Been to Magic Mountain several times, only rode Green Lantern once and that was all I needed. Not only was the ride VERY forceful and intense but it was just straight up uncomfortable to ride. Imagine pulling 3 to 4 Gs upside down with bulky awkward metal restraints. It was NOT fun.
It was called Wind Jammer for a reason lol
I’ve ridden 9 and 2 on this list
I just rode The Swarm yesterday, its a shame its considered a flop. I thought it was great. 😃
The Bat was also a prototype.
I dont think it was the swarms fault thorpe hasn't got a new coaster yet but actually Darren brown's ghost train as it was one of merlins most expensive investments ever and had so many problems and ended up being a huge flop and very problematic and have stayed off investing from thorpe since. Most likely because it hasn't payed itself off yet to get a new coaster as the probably dont want double debt for the park
King's Island didn't fail with The Bat. Arrow failed with their STUPID design.
9:21 windjammer surf riders😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I went on Green Lantern once when (for 40 years of my life) SFMM was my home park. I'm jealous that you decided not to ride it. :P
I hit up Myrtle beach in 2006 , I REALLY wish I had come back for the Led Zeppelin : The Ride credit. Rare Bolliger & Mabillard sit down credit.
What about any coaster made for Hard Rock Park?
I pretty much had the same reaction to t3, at least you didn't ride t2
Thorpe will get a new coaster maybe in 2023 or 2024 and it’s not a RMC or hyper
Edit: Also Derron Browns ghost train was a great investment (Controversial opinion)since they didn’t really have any dark rides and it was perfect for people who wanted to get scared.
Sansei is not really a knockoff company, they own s&s and Vekoma so they use their designs for sale in japan
I wish I could have ridden volcano also.
Am I seeing meme worthy content from GAC :D So used to the more formal explanations but this was kinda funny :D
Twist Coaster Robin looks janky and uncomfortable
What I love about you is that your not afraid to expose the truth, THE SWARM IS A FLOP!!
Before I watch i305 gotta be high up here
I think there egos were damaged when it comes to Twist Coaster Robin
1- * their 2- reputation, not ego
I was expecting Drachen Fyre and Mean Streak on this list.
Mean streak lasted for 25 years. It just didn't age well. Drachen Fire was a failure as it only lasted 6 years.
@@gabrielbosley9008 sure, mean streak lasted for 25 years. It's just that no one rode it after the 1st year. It failed majorly to bring traffic to that section of the park. 2 years after Mean Streak was built, that section was a ghost town. Surely you remember this.
@@nv_spartan1771 Mean Streak had its thunder stolen within a year when Rattler opened at Fiesta Texas and took away everything Mean Streak had just broken. After that, it had the same problem as every other Dinn Corporation woodie, it became uncomfortably rough despite efforts to tame it.
@@JCBro-yg8vd Rattler had nothing to do with Mean Streak's ridership. People quickly stopped riding Mean Streak because it sucked as a coaster. A lot of people complained that riding Mean Streak would give them headaches for hours, so they quit riding it. The ride was a complete failure because it failed to bring people to the back of the park.
@@JCBro-yg8vd Rattler was a Roller Corporation of America Woodie, which the company would later build The Infamous Son Of Beast.
Togo is so bad the name should mean poo.
Ship i305 to Michigan's Adventure. They would go bonkers and those silly Virginians take the giga for granted.
The swarm, not much of a surprise since its been over 9 years since they got a new coaster
my guess is that the coaster in 1# was considered '' beyond repair '' because of the reputation of coaster accidents in japan. No one would ride it ever again when they heard it had an accident ...yes japan is this dense
I guess Japan is really spoiled when it comes to ride operations.
Windjammer.
About to hit 5k subs
You’re probably getting it this weekend
This video not for kids
Is it Batman
@@GreatAmericanCoaster I think so
Did you just say you hate Blue streak? The coaster I sometimes like more than Millinium Force... Goodbye 😭 jk
My back was in thriving pain and I just wanted to get off. I said that after the turn into the chain lift.
@@GreatAmericanCoaster You must've had a bad experience. Blue Streak is definitely bumpy, but it shouldn't have been *THAT* bumpy. Cedar Point's been pretty good at maintaining it. Depending on when you went it might have been in need of a retracking.
Swarm... Really???
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Thorpe Park probably had less attendance in 2012 due to being in the same city as the London 2012 Olympics...
I feel that would increase attendance