Super useful info, and I really like the premise of using the expertise of others to foster a discussion about skills & tactics. These discussion occur in discord so it’s great to see it here, with more detail. It may be useful, in future collabs to use more text (I.e. bullet points) on screen to introduce “sections”, summarize info discussed, and highlight specific points guy(like recommended anointments/weapons/etc.) I think it’s great organizing the discussion based on skill trees, this makes sense and is easy to follow. The way the conversation flowed during the red tree was perfect, I would encourage using that “flow” as the format for this series. Covering important skills, the tree’s functionality goals, along with any hidden or interesting mechanics is what people “need to know”. I might also recommend a final section of “Synergies” where you can discuss subject matter similar to the tangent y’all went on during the short fuse portion (short fuse interactions between weapons and other skills). This can be incorporated during the gear portion or as its own section to “conclude”, as it brings everything full circle. Sorry for the long read, I just really like this kind of deep dive content and think this could be a really helpful series from new players to experienced ones.
I miss derch. Having said that, you fulfill a similar role in the community and I appreciate and enjoy what you do. And you both are/were siren mains. All you need now is 3 hour long complete breakdown videos lol. Enjoy your break dude.
@@Mastergamer-ul8pd he's done it a couple times before and then just as suddenly turns up again. I feel like, yeah, he's probably quit for good now. Shame
I miss derch as well and his lack of pants. Talked to him a while ago and he said he isn’t done with borderlands, but just been crushing it at work and has been too busy. This series was definitely influenced by those long borderlands 2 VH guides and I’m glad you like my kinda take on it
I really appreciate your contributions to this community, Moxsy. It's great to see how you bring people together. Whether it's content creators, casual players, try-hards... We're all vault hunters here!
Thanks for the research from both of you. I really appreciate it this. Gearbox doesn't give us the fine details of everything. But you guys worked to figure it out & share everything with the community. So again, thank you & GG
Yo Moxsy, this series is great. I really appreciate that you (and other community members as well - don’t mean to leave anyone out) are kind of taking up the Derch mantle by doing videos like this to drop knowledge on the BL3 community. And specifically doing that by getting the “experts” on your videos and asking them to share their knowledge. Awesome work!
Wait. this is 40 minutes long and they DIDNT go over everything?? I'm at 4 minutes and I was already looking for cliff's notes. Thanks for saving me some time!
How to sum up DPS for each character in one sentence: FL4K: Basically, I'm a headache Amara: You get an element, you get an element, EVERYONE gets an element! Moze: I'm glad I never have to worry about missing Zane: I AM SPEAD
@@Rahnonymous i think he did make zane,my father says that he would give his sword to me,if khan stopeed moving for 5 seconds and that didnt happen for 10 millennia and father didnt count the fact that he did stopeed once in the horus heresy (on a tank going 200 km/h and it was flying)
after the bounty of blood dlc and the mayhem scaling phase 2 i kinda stopped playing Amara, who's been my main for a long time. i started playing Zane and then settled on moze, who is genuinely fun for the first time since launch. this video has helped a lot to optimize my build, and i appreciate you taking such the long time to discuss all of this!
There's ppl who just do builds and where to farm for w.e weapon. Then we got moxsy who does all that and then some. I just love watching his excitement for a build. Only problem I have is when he talks numbers. I just go cross eyed lol but that's me. Keep up with the amazing work.
By far the most fun I've had in BL3 is playing Moxsy's Firehose Moze with a bloodletter and a sparkplug deathless. Weapons with 150 under 50 rad anoint. Usually using the flipper. Makes her tough as nails and things die all around you before you even know they are there. I've got the other 3 built pretty good but she's all I ever play now.
Hey, Moxsy! Thanks for the vid. I main Moze as well and thnk that artifacts with this character could be worth noting as well (i.e. Area of Effect damage, Atom Balm, Deathless, etc.). Love all the info and time you put into your content. Always looking out for the next video!
Moxsy, thanks for all your in depth guides and builds for Moze, they have really helped me understand his mechanics and push higher Mayhem modes. I have a friend who is struggling with Amara and was wondering if you have a video like this one for her mechanics???
Patch notes June 25th: Changed damage source for Remnant, Short Fuse, Indiscriminate, Do Unto Others, and Ties That Bind to address that they “double dip” and scale inappropriately at higher Mayhem levels. This video is out after that, did this patch not fix double dipping or is this referring to something else?
What’s so awesome bout Moze is 2 things...all her class mods are viable...& she can take advantage of the URAD anoint without equipping anything...just put points into Thin Red Line
one thing i am not sure if it was metioned, the krit dmg buff from unforgiven applys to ironbear weapons aaaaaand the onepump chump buff (1400% dmg) also applys to ib weapons
I slightly dispute the claim that grenades are not that good at M10. I am running a purple blue only build with added damage from the grenade throw from anoint on tracker, as well as about a 70% boost from the MOD and the artifact in grenade damage. Add in the easy M10 modifier for Grenades and 3/3 PTHP and they absolutely wreck at M 10. And completely save your butt if you have put a point in To the Last.
Hey Moxsy. What are your thoughts on the 500% Elemental Crit Explosion anointment for Moze? I haven't really seen any in-depth math on how it interacts with various buffs and skills...I got an Incendiary/Radiation Flipper on my Moze with that anointment and I love the absurd number of explosions it generates, but I'm wondering if it's worth farming for a different anoint.
@@awallerfamily Oh heck, I didn't know it affected your grenade! I might want to try my Recurring Hex again...I stopped using it because it wasn't keeping me alive, but using my Atlas bouncing mirv kills me just as often...
next hot fix: fix a performance issue with regard to moze's short fuse and skag den getting mayhem scaling, also short fuse proc chance is significantly lowered to reduce lag.
My guess would be that the OP and people who liked the post are Moze players who have noticed that gearbox tends to nerf anything that's "overperforming", AKA things that work well and are thus used almost universally.
Do you have one of these for amara that’s still relevant? I’m killin it in mayhem 10 thanks to you but I wanna know what I should be looking for, how to handle situations, why X anointments are important but Y aren’t.
best vid! Wish you didnt feel so rushed for time in your videos....Im sure youd have a great audience with longer vids! although, yes this one specifically, is a little long but it did not feel like 40 mins! I guess if you keep your vids short on youtube then theres a good insentive to go see you on twitch haha!🤙
Personal choice to not abuse a mechanic I expect to be fixed. Moze is strong enough to cruise all content without it, no point in getting used to a power level thats likely to be removed.
Very helpful video. However i wonder, when you talk about the best weapon to synergies with short fuse, you mention a weapon with around 6-10 pellets and with firerate slighly below 10. Do you have any gun with these criteria ? Or we can consider the Flipper to be the best ?
Their isn't one with it, its purely hypothetical at this point in time. Flipper is the closest to it with 9 pellets and a fire rate above 8.Any gun meeting either criteria though is usually a pretty decent Moze weapon.
Ive been searching for this cloning maddening tracker but i found a spring epicenter ive been using. It drops does the epicenter effect then bounces and hits same spot again doing the epicenter. Effect. It is very good for close enemies or a boss that doesnt move much.only problem is if im too close the initial explosion downs me instantly but the orbs that come off of it seem to do no damage
Fantastic vid, I learned so much! I just have 2 more questions. Does cloud of lead also have a predictable pattern similar to short fuse where you can guarantee 1st shot or xth shot will always proc the bonus damage (or is this irrelevant since short fuse just does so much more damage)? Even with there being a lot of skills that focus on incendiary damage, the 125% incendiary after exiting iron bear is still not worth it on a flipper where at least 8 shots won't proc short fuse? Is short fuse really doing that much damage that we should try to cater everything to it when farming anoints? I'm trying to get 200% splash flippers but was pretty happy with my 125% incendiary on an already incendiary flipper.
kinda late but here ya go: Short fuse does 75% of your gun damage as splash. and it gets mayhem scaling of x7 meaning when it procs, it will do 525% of the damage you did. this then procs skag den which does 460% of your splash as fire damage. lets say your gun damage after all bonuses is 100. then short fuse will proc giving you 100x 5.25 = 525 damage. Then this number is multiplied by 4.60 (460% Skag Den) which is big damage. at That point 125% incendiary is good but 200 splash or consec hits is better. 125% incendiary is useless since you already have a lot of fire damage so Urad or n2m elemental (which isnt fire) will work better. Cheers!
Maybe this will help but perhaps dedicate a brand new playlist to "in-depth builds" and then section off all of the other builds that you have linked into their own playlist. That way when you make your next in depth guide you can put something like "check out the in depth moze build..." and then lower down "or check out my other builds..." and link the playlist you have for all of your builds prior to this one. Because of all of the changes that have gone down recently, going back to some of your older builds is confusing as so many of the stats and requirements have been changed.
Also, to go even further, you tried to do a build comparison between other youtubers. That was without a doubt an incredible strong idea that could have brought the community together and combined several perspectives of the game all into one place by including other youtuber builds. Guess it didn't work out but having a feature on this video is the next best thing and should be a thing as much as possible. Getting other opinions and info from other people is huge
hmm I still have questions xD 1. I had a wierd thing Happen with the Railgun and the Chain dmg Augment. It seems like it bounces between Iron bear and the enemie, i had it happen while fighting Geniviv and sometimes, sadly really inconsitend, that i Literally oneshottet Geniviv with 1 hit of the Railgun while standing next to her. 2. I like to Run builds were i never need to reload, so Obviously i testet not only Blaster Master but also Green Monster, and i am almost certain of doing more dmg with Greens monster if i have a build were i literally never need to stop shooting. I red a random article on the internet that said, Green monster hase a Hidden Blaster Master. So While Shooting you dont only stack up 65% Bonus Corrosive dmg (Seems to stack pretty fast) But also 100% Splash dmg. Which would give you just straight More dmg than Blastermaster as long as im using weapons that allow to hold the trigger down for continius fire. And i feel like its not the amount of shots im doing but for how long im Holding the fire trigger. For example while shooting with the Backburner its feels like the secound or at least the third shot allready has full Bonus of Green monster. Would be cool to see how exactly green Monster works.
Shock railguns will chain off Iron Bear if there's no other targets and Iron Bear is close enough. This won't damage Iron Bear, they can also chain off Moze when auto bear fires them and she is close to the enemy. If you watch the footage of the Valk kill shown early in this video you'll see examples of both of these chaining effects. Green Monster does indeed have a hidden splash boost, like the bonus corrosive it also stacks to 100%. The corrosive takes 13.3 seconds and the splash 50 seconds. The green monsters description is slightly misleading of when the bonus builds and resets you can find a better explanation for that here forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/prismatics-gearology-and-math/4230285#heading--GM
@@prismatic9001 ahh Thanks. Well se 50seks it needs tobget the splash dmg tells me why Blaster Master is better in a lot of Scenarios. But for Mobbing were there are mobs spawning for multiple minuts. The Green Monster can be actually better. Thats good to know 😁
CMTs can be a total bitch to get, let alone with the grenade throw +25% damage anoint. But along the lines of what Prismatic said, I've found pretty decent success opening up to even using Maddening & Alley Oop Trackers, giving you significantly more opportunities to get one with the grenade throw anoint, you'll just want to spec 2 in Pull the Holey Pin instead of 1, but you're speccing 3 anyway if you're playing Mind Sweeper so yea.
It's very dependent on your playstyle and com. I recommend everyone starts at 4 and then goes up and down to see what works for them. On Mind Sweeper and Rocketeer I run 2 points as they supplement my cmts through micro nades /aggro relief while on Blast Master I run 6 points as it's a more aggressive style with less vamp-cmt support.
Has anyone ever done an offline update on their xbox one x ? I bought an xbox one x on ebay and I bought BL3 at Walmart. I had so much fun playing it and then around level 7 I started having error messages about clearing the cache, updates etc. Error 102 etc. I've done the hard reset. I've first tried to do the reset that you save games and apps but I still am getting error messages and can't play my game. I finally as a last resort did the reset to default settings all the way back to new xbox. That didn't work either, I still can't play my game. I'm so sad, I missing playing. I've been busy with work but sometimes I want to play BL3 and can't. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Roguelite is my least favorite modifier on moze x.x Too many situations where my splash damage procs ffyl and second wind at the same time. I tried roguelite, and I fully die without enemies hitting me. At least I can ignore post mortem. Though my favorite is not the face, since I run unkempt harold
Can someone please tell me that does the grenade anointments affect ironbears grenade launcher ??? Like "While an Action Skill is Active, Grenade Damage is increased by 150%" Does ironbears grenade launcher get a boost from this???
So are non elemental guns like the Maggie good on moze? She's the only vault hunter I haven't played because I hate torgue weapons. So basically can I use non explosive weapons and be legit?
Playing Dirty is not Predetermined. Moze and FL4K are currently the only characters with known predetermined skills/gear. Moze's interactions are covered here with mention of what was tested on Zane and Amara. Fl4k's guide is linked. forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/guide-mozes-predetermined-skills/4441998
What character should we cover next?
Zane please
Zane
FL4K! Been trying to play him more and have trouble with trying to play him.
Fl4k or Zane
Flak please :)
Super useful info, and I really like the premise of using the expertise of others to foster a discussion about skills & tactics. These discussion occur in discord so it’s great to see it here, with more detail.
It may be useful, in future collabs to use more text (I.e. bullet points) on screen to introduce “sections”, summarize info discussed, and highlight specific points guy(like recommended anointments/weapons/etc.)
I think it’s great organizing the discussion based on skill trees, this makes sense and is easy to follow. The way the conversation flowed during the red tree was perfect, I would encourage using that “flow” as the format for this series. Covering important skills, the tree’s functionality goals, along with any hidden or interesting mechanics is what people “need to know”. I might also recommend a final section of “Synergies” where you can discuss subject matter similar to the tangent y’all went on during the short fuse portion (short fuse interactions between weapons and other skills). This can be incorporated during the gear portion or as its own section to “conclude”, as it brings everything full circle.
Sorry for the long read, I just really like this kind of deep dive content and think this could be a really helpful series from new players to experienced ones.
I miss derch.
Having said that, you fulfill a similar role in the community and I appreciate and enjoy what you do. And you both are/were siren mains. All you need now is 3 hour long complete breakdown videos lol.
Enjoy your break dude.
I thought the samething!!!! He is the BL3 Derch
I guess derch quit borderlands
@@Mastergamer-ul8pd he's done it a couple times before and then just as suddenly turns up again. I feel like, yeah, he's probably quit for good now. Shame
I miss derch as well and his lack of pants. Talked to him a while ago and he said he isn’t done with borderlands, but just been crushing it at work and has been too busy. This series was definitely influenced by those long borderlands 2 VH guides and I’m glad you like my kinda take on it
Damn. I havent watched him in a minute. He raised my borderlands IQ by a LOT. What happened to him?
I really appreciate your contributions to this community, Moxsy. It's great to see how you bring people together. Whether it's content creators, casual players, try-hards... We're all vault hunters here!
Thanks for the research from both of you. I really appreciate it this. Gearbox doesn't give us the fine details of everything. But you guys worked to figure it out & share everything with the community. So again, thank you & GG
Yo Moxsy, this series is great. I really appreciate that you (and other community members as well - don’t mean to leave anyone out) are kind of taking up the Derch mantle by doing videos like this to drop knowledge on the BL3 community. And specifically doing that by getting the “experts” on your videos and asking them to share their knowledge. Awesome work!
Loved the Derch videos for Bl2 and TPS. I watched all of them
Been nice to have gone over EVERY skill one by one and explain when one would want to take it and when not to etc....
Wait. this is 40 minutes long and they DIDNT go over everything?? I'm at 4 minutes and I was already looking for cliff's notes. Thanks for saving me some time!
Hidden mechanic and tips just put some time into moze and you’ll learn every skill
How to sum up DPS for each character in one sentence:
FL4K: Basically, I'm a headache
Amara: You get an element, you get an element, EVERYONE gets an element!
Moze: I'm glad I never have to worry about missing
Zane: I AM SPEAD
I read this in the characters voices lmao
"I AM SPEAD" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
my brother jaghatai khan its gonna love playing zane then
@@perturabo149 heck yeah, he should join the Zane gang!
@@Rahnonymous i think he did make zane,my father says that he would give his sword to me,if khan stopeed moving for 5 seconds and that didnt happen for 10 millennia and father didnt count the fact that he did stopeed once in the horus heresy (on a tank going 200 km/h and it was flying)
In depth guide to Moze, “shoot plague bearer”
I got a plaguebearer with consecutive hits while farming a for a boom sickle
Joe Lee yes but plaguebarer is better for mobbing
@Joe Lee yeah a few farms later
after the bounty of blood dlc and the mayhem scaling phase 2 i kinda stopped playing Amara, who's been my main for a long time. i started playing Zane and then settled on moze, who is genuinely fun for the first time since launch. this video has helped a lot to optimize my build, and i appreciate you taking such the long time to discuss all of this!
Amazing all the interactions with certain skills. Crazy all the testing that had to be done to see what works and what doesn't. Salute
Now i know why I was 1 shotting the end boss in DLC 3 with a Krakatoa every time. Thanks Short Fuse "first shot" proc
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Ah crap, leaked moze’s most powerful ability
IM SO MAD
This comment confused me, but when it came to that point, I had to re-watch it 3 times. Good laugh.
There's ppl who just do builds and where to farm for w.e weapon. Then we got moxsy who does all that and then some. I just love watching his excitement for a build. Only problem I have is when he talks numbers. I just go cross eyed lol but that's me. Keep up with the amazing work.
My man Prismatic! Love this collab lol, keep it up boys
By far the most fun I've had in BL3 is playing Moxsy's Firehose Moze with a bloodletter and a sparkplug deathless. Weapons with 150 under 50 rad anoint. Usually using the flipper. Makes her tough as nails and things die all around you before you even know they are there. I've got the other 3 built pretty good but she's all I ever play now.
Hey, Moxsy! Thanks for the vid.
I main Moze as well and thnk that artifacts with this character could be worth noting as well (i.e. Area of Effect damage, Atom Balm, Deathless, etc.).
Love all the info and time you put into your content. Always looking out for the next video!
Moxsy, thanks for all your in depth guides and builds for Moze, they have really helped me understand his mechanics and push higher Mayhem modes. I have a friend who is struggling with Amara and was wondering if you have a video like this one for her mechanics???
5 minutes after watching this, I lucked out and got that grenade from a vending machine lmao. And dear god, that thing is fun :D
Which grenade
Wow, a famous guy telling me about his master class. This is better than those ads!
You deserve way more subscribers love the cud’s keep up the grind
Love this! Only if I paid this close attention in school...Could’ve been a rocket scientist. Lol!
Excellent video!! Is there a more recent one with the purple tree?
Patch notes June 25th: Changed damage source for Remnant, Short Fuse, Indiscriminate, Do Unto Others, and Ties That Bind to address that they “double dip” and scale inappropriately at higher Mayhem levels. This video is out after that, did this patch not fix double dipping or is this referring to something else?
taigenraine it definitely did not fix double dipping
Hey moxsy great content per usual, when can we expect a build video for the shotgun fl4k you been playing around with? Im super excited.
Bro this is extremely helpful info. Thanks to both of you!
What’s so awesome bout Moze is 2 things...all her class mods are viable...& she can take advantage of the URAD anoint without equipping anything...just put points into Thin Red Line
Love this kind of video, great job to both of you guys
one thing i am not sure if it was metioned, the krit dmg buff from unforgiven applys to ironbear weapons aaaaaand the onepump chump buff (1400% dmg) also applys to ib weapons
Neither apply to Iron Bears weapons. Unforgiven however does apply to anyone who jumps in Dakka Bear.
Dude go to sanc to the jackpuppy, it applys to the explosive minugungs at least. Very easy to tell
Hell yeah! Thanks so much for the video! Learned so much
I slightly dispute the claim that grenades are not that good at M10. I am running a purple blue only build with added damage from the grenade throw from anoint on tracker, as well as about a 70% boost from the MOD and the artifact in grenade damage. Add in the easy M10 modifier for Grenades and 3/3 PTHP and they absolutely wreck at M 10. And completely save your butt if you have put a point in To the Last.
Tongue cross-promotion and the complex root and currently broken causing a splash damage explosion that covers basically the entire screen.
Video games shouldn't involve this much math just to figure out optimal builds. Prismatic is a stud for studying and sharing this information, though.
Ever seen Path of Exile?
Have you done a video on this guy covering the purple tree?
Hey Moxsy.
What are your thoughts on the 500% Elemental Crit Explosion anointment for Moze? I haven't really seen any in-depth math on how it interacts with various buffs and skills...I got an Incendiary/Radiation Flipper on my Moze with that anointment and I love the absurd number of explosions it generates, but I'm wondering if it's worth farming for a different anoint.
It procs on my 6 nirv hex grenade when i hold a weapon with that annoit and chuck. I have it on my hellshock and it rips things apart.
@@awallerfamily Oh heck, I didn't know it affected your grenade! I might want to try my Recurring Hex again...I stopped using it because it wasn't keeping me alive, but using my Atlas bouncing mirv kills me just as often...
next hot fix: fix a performance issue with regard to moze's short fuse and skag den getting mayhem scaling, also short fuse proc chance is significantly lowered to reduce lag.
I'm guessing the two people who liked this comment are Moze haters.
My guess would be that the OP and people who liked the post are Moze players who have noticed that gearbox tends to nerf anything that's "overperforming", AKA things that work well and are thus used almost universally.
After this are you going to do an updated moze build ??
Do you have one of these for amara that’s still relevant? I’m killin it in mayhem 10 thanks to you but I wanna know what I should be looking for, how to handle situations, why X anointments are important but Y aren’t.
how much points in fire in the skag den is considered optimal?
While it receives Mayhem scaling the more the better. If mayhem scaling is removed then 1 point will be optimal again.
AMAZING! gonna run moze thru the DLC content just for spits and giggles tonight.
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Pristmatic:ÆØËĘH
Moxsy: Mhm.
best vid! Wish you didnt feel so rushed for time in your videos....Im sure youd have a great audience with longer vids! although, yes this one specifically, is a little long but it did not feel like 40 mins! I guess if you keep your vids short on youtube then theres a good insentive to go see you on twitch haha!🤙
Maybe i missed something, but why only 1 point in fire in the skag den?
Personal choice to not abuse a mechanic I expect to be fixed. Moze is strong enough to cruise all content without it, no point in getting used to a power level thats likely to be removed.
Very helpful video. However i wonder, when you talk about the best weapon to synergies with short fuse, you mention a weapon with around 6-10 pellets and with firerate slighly below 10. Do you have any gun with these criteria ? Or we can consider the Flipper to be the best ?
Their isn't one with it, its purely hypothetical at this point in time. Flipper is the closest to it with 9 pellets and a fire rate above 8.Any gun meeting either criteria though is usually a pretty decent Moze weapon.
Thank you so much for the great info!
Shoutout to YT: *Nootmad*
The original moze master with all the guides on her before anyone bothered 💪💪💪
Good vid! Thanks and thanks Pris!
Awesome stuff!! So this build is also for non Bear build or just for bear?
Ive been searching for this cloning maddening tracker but i found a spring epicenter ive been using. It drops does the epicenter effect then bounces and hits same spot again doing the epicenter. Effect. It is very good for close enemies or a boss that doesnt move much.only problem is if im too close the initial explosion downs me instantly but the orbs that come off of it seem to do no damage
7:55 for damage cap
Fantastic vid, I learned so much! I just have 2 more questions.
Does cloud of lead also have a predictable pattern similar to short fuse where you can guarantee 1st shot or xth shot will always proc the bonus damage (or is this irrelevant since short fuse just does so much more damage)?
Even with there being a lot of skills that focus on incendiary damage, the 125% incendiary after exiting iron bear is still not worth it on a flipper where at least 8 shots won't proc short fuse? Is short fuse really doing that much damage that we should try to cater everything to it when farming anoints? I'm trying to get 200% splash flippers but was pretty happy with my 125% incendiary on an already incendiary flipper.
kinda late but here ya go:
Short fuse does 75% of your gun damage as splash. and it gets mayhem scaling of x7 meaning when it procs, it will do 525% of the damage you did. this then procs skag den which does 460% of your splash as fire damage.
lets say your gun damage after all bonuses is 100. then short fuse will proc giving you 100x 5.25 = 525 damage. Then this number is multiplied by 4.60 (460% Skag Den) which is big damage. at That point 125% incendiary is good but 200 splash or consec hits is better.
125% incendiary is useless since you already have a lot of fire damage so Urad or n2m elemental (which isnt fire) will work better.
Cheers!
Maybe this will help but perhaps dedicate a brand new playlist to "in-depth builds" and then section off all of the other builds that you have linked into their own playlist. That way when you make your next in depth guide you can put something like "check out the in depth moze build..." and then lower down "or check out my other builds..." and link the playlist you have for all of your builds prior to this one. Because of all of the changes that have gone down recently, going back to some of your older builds is confusing as so many of the stats and requirements have been changed.
Also, to go even further, you tried to do a build comparison between other youtubers. That was without a doubt an incredible strong idea that could have brought the community together and combined several perspectives of the game all into one place by including other youtuber builds. Guess it didn't work out but having a feature on this video is the next best thing and should be a thing as much as possible. Getting other opinions and info from other people is huge
hmm I still have questions xD
1. I had a wierd thing Happen with the Railgun and the Chain dmg Augment. It seems like it bounces between Iron bear and the enemie, i had it happen while fighting Geniviv and sometimes, sadly really inconsitend, that i Literally oneshottet Geniviv with 1 hit of the Railgun while standing next to her.
2. I like to Run builds were i never need to reload, so Obviously i testet not only Blaster Master but also Green Monster, and i am almost certain of doing more dmg with Greens monster if i have a build were i literally never need to stop shooting. I red a random article on the internet that said, Green monster hase a Hidden Blaster Master.
So While Shooting you dont only stack up 65% Bonus Corrosive dmg (Seems to stack pretty fast) But also 100% Splash dmg. Which would give you just straight More dmg than Blastermaster as long as im using weapons that allow to hold the trigger down for continius fire.
And i feel like its not the amount of shots im doing but for how long im Holding the fire trigger. For example while shooting with the Backburner its feels like the secound or at least the third shot allready has full Bonus of Green monster.
Would be cool to see how exactly green Monster works.
Shock railguns will chain off Iron Bear if there's no other targets and Iron Bear is close enough. This won't damage Iron Bear, they can also chain off Moze when auto bear fires them and she is close to the enemy. If you watch the footage of the Valk kill shown early in this video you'll see examples of both of these chaining effects.
Green Monster does indeed have a hidden splash boost, like the bonus corrosive it also stacks to 100%. The corrosive takes 13.3 seconds and the splash 50 seconds. The green monsters description is slightly misleading of when the bonus builds and resets you can find a better explanation for that here forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/prismatics-gearology-and-math/4230285#heading--GM
@@prismatic9001 ahh Thanks. Well se 50seks it needs tobget the splash dmg tells me why Blaster Master is better in a lot of Scenarios. But for Mobbing were there are mobs spawning for multiple minuts. The Green Monster can be actually better. Thats good to know 😁
CMTs can be a total bitch to get, let alone with the grenade throw +25% damage anoint. But along the lines of what Prismatic said, I've found pretty decent success opening up to even using Maddening & Alley Oop Trackers, giving you significantly more opportunities to get one with the grenade throw anoint, you'll just want to spec 2 in Pull the Holey Pin instead of 1, but you're speccing 3 anyway if you're playing Mind Sweeper so yea.
this is an awesome vid ty both :D
Loved this vid ty so much!
Re: Vampyr, how many points do Moxsy/Prismatic suggest we spec into this skills, to receive optimal benefit?
It's very dependent on your playstyle and com. I recommend everyone starts at 4 and then goes up and down to see what works for them.
On Mind Sweeper and Rocketeer I run 2 points as they supplement my cmts through micro nades /aggro relief while on Blast Master I run 6 points as it's a more aggressive style with less vamp-cmt support.
Looks like Stainless Steel bear got patched to no longer apply to Moze. Part of the iron Cub mayhem scaling fix.
I have no idea what that other guy is saying 💀
With the new patch, is this in depth build still viable? Or will you be making a new one implementing the improved drowning in brass?
Thank you both so much now I understand her really good good job
For dakka bear can also use 2 ppl for the 50% bonus well in mozes iron bear otherwise u hope out like they were saying 4 it ...
A few thing read different on some consoles 2 for xbox 1 splash moze reads weirdly ...
For moze on xbox 1 its glitched with click click sometime to where u get the 60% heat dmg on the railguns evrey shot..
I want to try this build but i need a level 60 Rocketeer Class Mod. Do you know where i should look for that?
This was great.
Has anyone ever done an offline update on their xbox one x ? I bought an xbox one x on ebay and I bought BL3 at Walmart. I had so much fun playing it and then around level 7 I started having error messages about clearing the cache, updates etc. Error 102 etc. I've done the hard reset. I've first tried to do the reset that you save games and apps but I still am getting error messages and can't play my game. I finally as a last resort did the reset to default settings all the way back to new xbox. That didn't work either, I still can't play my game. I'm so sad, I missing playing. I've been busy with work but sometimes I want to play BL3 and can't. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
GB "Hidden mechanics you say!?!?!? Nerfed!!"
Doesnt 10/5 torgue crosspromotion kill yourself from the giant splash radius? I was killing myself a lot with the tracker nade and mine sweepers
Only becomes a problem if you have skag den equipped imo
Roguelite is my least favorite modifier on moze x.x Too many situations where my splash damage procs ffyl and second wind at the same time. I tried roguelite, and I fully die without enemies hitting me. At least I can ignore post mortem. Though my favorite is not the face, since I run unkempt harold
Can someone please tell me that does the grenade anointments affect ironbears grenade launcher ??? Like "While an Action Skill is Active, Grenade Damage is increased by 150%" Does ironbears grenade launcher get a boost from this???
No that annoint is for Zane exclusively
bruh, this video is sick, more of them plz and plz do Zane
Mirvtacular hex is awesome on Moze !
Never much interested in moze until I saw this video
Damn that was informative. Next fl4k or zane plz.
PS.: Sadly bad audio but im sure you noticed it yourself.
Can someone help me understand what 390 is? I've been out of the game for a while now and I'm just getting back into it
So we saying the redline is relevant with short fuse??? At least for mobbing
So are non elemental guns like the Maggie good on moze? She's the only vault hunter I haven't played because I hate torgue weapons. So basically can I use non explosive weapons and be legit?
I just use whatever I want on her tbh. If it’s a decent weapon, you can make it work to a degree. (The Maggie is just solid all around)
How do I get the Mini Mech pet??? Ive seen other gunners with it but have no idea how.
4th skill tree from the designer's cut dlc
Purple tree's action skill
Please do more of this
Is there still a 300 over 90 anoint?
You should do the idea you had before as well. Compare them in the takedown
What is better for Moze a maddening tracker or recurring tracker
Why can't I find the one for amara
Green monster feeds short fuse too or so Ive read!!!
Legendary video
Does this pattern on the two fang and short fuse apply to playing dirty on zane?
Playing Dirty is not Predetermined. Moze and FL4K are currently the only characters with known predetermined skills/gear.
Moze's interactions are covered here with mention of what was tested on Zane and Amara. Fl4k's guide is linked.
forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/guide-mozes-predetermined-skills/4441998
Awesome thanks!
Which tree to spend points on first you reckon guys?
So from what I heard If I use short fuse I can abuse of the 300 90% anoint?
Naw it still works as intended now but it could work when able to trigger is what I think he mean
For fire hose moze what artifact do you use
Watch the video
Pearl of knowledge if not that probably an Otto ideal of some sorr
Sonix Sharkz the pearl is dlc2 and I don’t have it is the Otto dlc
@@milespoltrock140 you need the DLCs for most viable builds. Look into buying them
Medellinin ok
Ayyyy master class time!!!!!
Whats better? Fire Hose Moze or Iron Bear?
What us Urad?
Make a melee cryo Amara
This. Very much.
What would be a great build for moze?
This is amazing
can someone make a build of what the both agree apon and summarize it for a new bl3 player?
Very informative. Amara next!
i see prismaticbro i like
Great vid
I’m trying to make a build that doesn’t use iron bear at all