I've never been a fan of great bassinets, they've always looked unattractive to me whenever I see one in a museum but seeing it on you with armour really changed my perspective. It looks great when used along the rest of the armour and seems much more practical then I initially imagined just seeing them isolated.
Nicely done, Ian! You have gathered together and presented the information in a very orderly way. Compared to what you have done, building the helmet was easy. Mac
Wow. What a piece. I can really imagine this being the equivalent to a modern tank on the battlefields. A high ranking, experienced fighter on a armored horse with a sharp, case hardened steel tip lance couched and this thing on his head. It must have truly been terrifying to encounter a combo like that as an enemy with no other obvious counter possibility than a direct hit with a canon ball. Imagine being some stable boy who's on the battlefield for the first time and seeing this thing used in anger. It must have looked like some alien overlord against the old bascinets and armor styles. Also can I just say that the way this piece of solid and continuous metal drapes over the anatomy like silk and to remember it was hand beaten by a master smith and his artisans with every strike carefully placed to ensure maximum safekeeping of its wearer when other extremely skilled men try their absolute hardest to ram a hardened metal spike into their faces from a galloping horse just blows my freaking mind.
I'm not a historian, but the context the video provides suggests to me that the Duke of Venice wore this helmet. That's important, because if my assumption is correct, the man who wore this armour was not the Dauphin of France or the Prince of Wales. This man didn't see himself in the chivalric tradition of Richard I. or Charlemagne, he saw himself as a successor of Julius Caesar and Marcus Aurelius. Hence, he saw it has his duty to be on the battlefield with his men, but he would have left the fighting to the men under his command. He probably even delegated the tactical leadership to someone else and acted as a figurehead and rallying point.
Amazing video. I watch Skall, Matt Easton, The Metatron, Tod of Tod's workshop, Lindybeige, and others and this is in a class by itself. Obviously, a lot of work went into it. You couldn't do this every week. But I am really impressed by the dedication to getting this right and obvious but understated enthusiasm for the subject matter, which is, needless to say, infectious. And also pointing towards the larger community of people who help make this happen. Thank you for doing this.
Your average video quality was already really high, but I think this is by far your best video. A perfect combination of the scholarly and practical aspects of reconstruction and a great way of presenting the topic. The wait really was worth it.
Absolutely. Ian doesn't post very often, but the quality of his videos and the level of depth and detail is outstanding, far above almost everything else on RUclips. Keep up the good work, Ian!
Another possibility for the shoulder assymetry is that the wearer had assymetrical shoulders. It's pretty common for people to be a bit bulkier on one side from uneven muscle development, and then there's skeletal stuff like scoliosis. As we saw with Dominic Smee's recreation of Richard III's fighting ability, even severe scoliosis isn't necessarily as debilitating as is often supposed.
Fascinating, far more mobile than expected, functional and impressive protection - deflective shape. It is like looking at the 14th century version of a T-34s sloped armor.
I wouldn‘t have thought to see any more of you, but I‘m glad to do so! You got me interested in armour in the first place, now I‘m a loving collector! Thank you so much!
It's so great to finally see you back, and with what a video! Thank you for taking us on this journey of some incredible historical research, and a special thanks to Mac and Dr Baptiste (hope I spelt that right.) I never knew there were questions as to the validity of this bascinet. To me, like all Medieval extants, it's simply too perfectly imperfect to be a reproduction. The research that you guys are putting into it is amazing, without a shadow of a doubt.
@Knyght Errant: I have read that concussions and knockouts are primarily caused by rapid head rotation rather than linear impact, and that modern football and bicycle helmets are no defense against this rotation, regardless of padding. Does this bascinet limit head rotation enough to prevent concussions? How do other medieval helmets stand up to the rotational effects of some blows to the head?
That's a great question. I don't know enough about the specific mechanism of injury, like exactly how much rotational acceleration it takes to cause a concussion to tell you definitively yes or no, but my gut tells me no, that this helmet as built would not prevent enough rotation to stop that type of injury. The only helmets I would confidently venture a guess in saying that they _would_ help limit or prevent rotational injury would be the types of great bascinets and later stechhelms that essentially lock down to the cuirass, isolating the head and cervical spine from the impact far more than any helmet whose weight is primarily born on the head would be capable of. In a stechhelm, the head and neck are effectively taken out of the equation by being completely suspended inside and not in direct contact with a helm that is rigidly coupled to the torso, while earlier great bascinets come close to the same idea. I don't own or have experience wearing armets with wrappers, but you might see some beneficial limitation of rotational movement with the wrapper installed in that specific case, but I don't know for sure how much of an effect it would yield.
This video was WAAAY more interesting than I expected. Granted, I had relatively low expectations (though, it being a Knyght Errant video, I still had some expectations, of course), but still. Quite fascinating :)
I was lucky enough to attend the forging this year and try it on - it's surprisingly comfortable. A little big for me (5'9" 170lbs, slight build) but fit a ton of folks really well. Great vid, Ian, and good to have you back!
Absolutely fascinating video about helmet that each one of us encountered at least once and raised many questions and many brows. Thank you Ian, for providing us such a detailed video with such a huge amount of information and backview on crafting process.
That is a fantastic piece of video- it is always a treat to find a new channel where you learn on a totally new topic. Excellent work and research, keep up the good work!
I saw this in my recommendations. Now I've gone through most of the helmets playlist and bunch of other old videos. So glad I found your channel and that you're making videos again!
I am so giddy! Can barely contain myself. This has always been one of my favorite helmets. I followed the production as close as I could and have been waiting for a presentation such as this. Many thanks. Such a beauty...
In case no one else mentioned it: Glad to have you back. I got to hold that helm in my hands at the Forging and was blown away by the detail in craftsmanship, as I was by the inherent design properties. And as I expected, it goes rather well with your own harness.
Extremely impressive reproduction and talk, so many thanks to all involved. When the internet is good, it's brilliant. :-) As a keen student of history, I've learned a lot just recently from work like this, such as the name stop rib (and how vital it was against pointed weapons and, amazingly, broken arrow shaft splinters - see the recent Tod's Workshop video on long bows at Agincourt). As for the battlefield usefulness of this helmet design, well I don't have the experience to say (my expertise is in ancient history) but for sure you would have severely degraded hearing in one and likely unresponsive to commands and fluid response on the field. But if you are an elite in a melee, well, they probably weren't that good at taking orders anyway. ;-)
Huzzah, he is back! What a beautiful helmet. Maybe wear it with a padded surcoat as in the manuscripts, it could add some cushioning between shoulder and helmet and keep points from slipping under the mail fringe.
@@GeeBarone Yet the illuminations at 9:39, 11:38, 11:44 and 12:34 all do show some form of fabric worn over the plate. The examples in minute 11 even show the bascinet itself partially covered in fabric. Contemorary manuscripts, like for example the "Chroniques de France ou de St Denis", show almost no uncovered plate at all. For this reason and considering the decorations I believe this helmet predates the classic italian white armor.
@@mnk9073 Those examples are either not italian (french or iberian instead) or do not appear to my eyes to represent padded garments. Indeed uncovered harness was less common (but far from unhead of) in italy in this period - i suspect more likely an unpadded surcote was much more likely than a padded one for a harness like this.
The helmet design actually makes sense in the function perspective, and you studied many references, and then explained it all. Indeed, you have returned. Welcome back, good sir.
Before watching: "Well, this doesn't look like the most interesting topic, but it's the first video in a while, so I'll watch. After video: "Holy hell that was unbelievably fascinating. Best helmet evah."
Mac is a legend! And a big inspiration :) . Thank you for putting this video together, it's a great compilation of the information and research done for the helmet. Is the future of the reproduction known? I recall the possibility of it going on "tour" but hadn't seen a follow up to that.
Glad to see you're ok. Thank you so much for posting a new video, it made my day. Very informative and high quality. Looking forward to more! Keep it up Ian!
"Hi, guys, welcome back." he says as if he hasn't been gone for two years.
J. Casey lol ikr.
You are so right about it lol!
LOL
Too true
He last posted 1 year ago!
FINALLY. He‘s back.
and........ he's gone.
That helmet is surprisingly more mobile that I would have guessed.
*sees helmet in museum* "wow that looks impractical"
*sees helmet on Ian*
"Wow that looks practical"
Sir Ian, gone off to a far away land in search for the holy grail and returned with a video! Great having you back.
And a new mic it seems
And what a treat this one is!
seems like he has found the gail hasn't he
I have the holy grail. I gonna sell it for bitcoins, for those who are interested.
@@litecashAngel I'm not very keen. I've already got one , you see. Oh yes, it's very nice!
I've never been a fan of great bassinets, they've always looked unattractive to me whenever I see one in a museum but seeing it on you with armour really changed my perspective. It looks great when used along the rest of the armour and seems much more practical then I initially imagined just seeing them isolated.
i thought the same thing
Nicely done, Ian! You have gathered together and presented the information in a very orderly way. Compared to what you have done, building the helmet was easy. Mac
LOVE YOUR WORK MAN, your a legend man!
You lie as well as you make armour.
The sheer humility threatens to blast my soul right out of my body.
Robert you legend i love your armour peices
"As I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted"
I'm glad you are back making videos. Thank you.
I'm in the hospital with massive infection and pneumonia. Seeing this vid go up totally made my day. 😊👍
Dang, sorry to hear that. Hopefully you recover soon.
@@ameritus9041 Thanks mate, getting great care here at the hospital. 🙂👍
sry to hear that get well soon :)
@@bambam144 God speed, get well soon.
Get well soon
Wow. What a piece. I can really imagine this being the equivalent to a modern tank on the battlefields. A high ranking, experienced fighter on a armored horse with a sharp, case hardened steel tip lance couched and this thing on his head. It must have truly been terrifying to encounter a combo like that as an enemy with no other obvious counter possibility than a direct hit with a canon ball. Imagine being some stable boy who's on the battlefield for the first time and seeing this thing used in anger. It must have looked like some alien overlord against the old bascinets and armor styles.
Also can I just say that the way this piece of solid and continuous metal drapes over the anatomy like silk and to remember it was hand beaten by a master smith and his artisans with every strike carefully placed to ensure maximum safekeeping of its wearer when other extremely skilled men try their absolute hardest to ram a hardened metal spike into their faces from a galloping horse just blows my freaking mind.
Being a stable boy on the battlefield seeing men-at-arms waging war in plate armour would be a lifetime experience.
Like the last of a lifetime.
I'm not a historian, but the context the video provides suggests to me that the Duke of Venice wore this helmet.
That's important, because if my assumption is correct, the man who wore this armour was not the Dauphin of France or the Prince of Wales.
This man didn't see himself in the chivalric tradition of Richard I. or Charlemagne, he saw himself as a successor of Julius Caesar and Marcus Aurelius.
Hence, he saw it has his duty to be on the battlefield with his men, but he would have left the fighting to the men under his command.
He probably even delegated the tactical leadership to someone else and acted as a figurehead and rallying point.
My fastest click of all time, I'm so happy you uploaded!
Me too. @ducks behind table@
# Fastest Click In The West
Same here haha
I think you were probably away on a "Knyghtly Errant" : )
btw I also think that the asymmetrical throat plate was on purpose because it really stands out like a sore thumb when worn.
Groan
"Errant" is not a peculiar spelling of errand. It means "travelling".
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The KNIGHT is BACK, Ladies and Gentlemen!😁❤
* lords and ladies
Boys and girls.....or frenchies!!...😁
@Sam Bowling Alley yep...
Amazing video. I watch Skall, Matt Easton, The Metatron, Tod of Tod's workshop, Lindybeige, and others and this is in a class by itself. Obviously, a lot of work went into it. You couldn't do this every week. But I am really impressed by the dedication to getting this right and obvious but understated enthusiasm for the subject matter, which is, needless to say, infectious. And also pointing towards the larger community of people who help make this happen. Thank you for doing this.
Your average video quality was already really high, but I think this is by far your best video. A perfect combination of the scholarly and practical aspects of reconstruction and a great way of presenting the topic. The wait really was worth it.
Absolutely. Ian doesn't post very often, but the quality of his videos and the level of depth and detail is outstanding, far above almost everything else on RUclips. Keep up the good work, Ian!
Another possibility for the shoulder assymetry is that the wearer had assymetrical shoulders. It's pretty common for people to be a bit bulkier on one side from uneven muscle development, and then there's skeletal stuff like scoliosis. As we saw with Dominic Smee's recreation of Richard III's fighting ability, even severe scoliosis isn't necessarily as debilitating as is often supposed.
Fascinating, far more mobile than expected, functional and impressive protection - deflective shape. It is like looking at the 14th century version of a T-34s sloped armor.
I wouldn‘t have thought to see any more of you, but I‘m glad to do so! You got me interested in armour in the first place, now I‘m a loving collector! Thank you so much!
This is such a fantastic presentation that brings me back at least every couple of months.
Remember that time Attila the Hun traveled 1000 years into the future to have a kickass suit of plate armor built?
It's so great to finally see you back, and with what a video! Thank you for taking us on this journey of some incredible historical research, and a special thanks to Mac and Dr Baptiste (hope I spelt that right.) I never knew there were questions as to the validity of this bascinet. To me, like all Medieval extants, it's simply too perfectly imperfect to be a reproduction. The research that you guys are putting into it is amazing, without a shadow of a doubt.
OMG you're back!
@Knyght Errant: I have read that concussions and knockouts are primarily caused by rapid head rotation rather than linear impact, and that modern football and bicycle helmets are no defense against this rotation, regardless of padding. Does this bascinet limit head rotation enough to prevent concussions? How do other medieval helmets stand up to the rotational effects of some blows to the head?
That's a great question. I don't know enough about the specific mechanism of injury, like exactly how much rotational acceleration it takes to cause a concussion to tell you definitively yes or no, but my gut tells me no, that this helmet as built would not prevent enough rotation to stop that type of injury.
The only helmets I would confidently venture a guess in saying that they _would_ help limit or prevent rotational injury would be the types of great bascinets and later stechhelms that essentially lock down to the cuirass, isolating the head and cervical spine from the impact far more than any helmet whose weight is primarily born on the head would be capable of. In a stechhelm, the head and neck are effectively taken out of the equation by being completely suspended inside and not in direct contact with a helm that is rigidly coupled to the torso, while earlier great bascinets come close to the same idea. I don't own or have experience wearing armets with wrappers, but you might see some beneficial limitation of rotational movement with the wrapper installed in that specific case, but I don't know for sure how much of an effect it would yield.
@@KnyghtErrant Thank you!
We missed you.
This video has made me rethink everything I thought about lateral head movement in great bascinets.
Great video. I thought it looked amazing and beautiful when you put it on together with the rest of your armor.
Welcome back Ian. I was just rewatching your helmet series about a month ago, and truly missing your great content. So good to have you back.
Talk about hitting the ground running. Great video. Welcome back.
"Hi guys welcome back."
No YOU welcome back :D
The legend returns!
The dark night has gone, the knyght is bacc!
This video was WAAAY more interesting than I expected. Granted, I had relatively low expectations (though, it being a Knyght Errant video, I still had some expectations, of course), but still. Quite fascinating :)
I was lucky enough to attend the forging this year and try it on - it's surprisingly comfortable. A little big for me (5'9" 170lbs, slight build) but fit a ton of folks really well. Great vid, Ian, and good to have you back!
I am very pleased to see this and I clicked on it within a microsecond of seeing it.
Holy crap the legend returns!
You have no idea how much I missed your videos. Welcome back!
Fantastic to see you back!
Glad to have you back
Really nice to have you back
Well done! Excellent video, Ian
Welcome back!! We missed you.
Wow I was genuinely worried that this channel was dead. Glad to see a new video!
You are back!!!!Thank you. thank you!
Very well written and executed. This lecture would be appropriate at any university.
Great to see u back 👍
Great to have you back, brilliant video as always.
Good to see you back!
Nice to see you back!
Nice video and amazig project!
This is some incredible research!
Welcome back Ian
Great to see you back and making a video, hopefully you will start making videos regularly again.
An excellent presentation in both video and script. This is well worth the wait. Two thumbs up!
Simply one of the best medieval armor channels with deep understanding of the subject.
The hero has returned! Glad you're back! :)
Absolutely fascinating video about helmet that each one of us encountered at least once and raised many questions and many brows. Thank you Ian, for providing us such a detailed video with such a huge amount of information and backview on crafting process.
Best birthday present I could get, a new Knyght Errant video!
Were have you been !
Nice to see you again !
Hell yeah! He's back!
Glad to see you back!
That is a fantastic piece of video- it is always a treat to find a new channel where you learn on a totally new topic. Excellent work and research, keep up the good work!
Great video! Glad to see you back!
You've returned! So glad that you're making videos again :)
the Legend is Alive!
Welcome back Sir! Thank you for bringing us another brilliant video
Nice Helmet, glad to see you back
Yessss glad you're finally back!
I saw this in my recommendations. Now I've gone through most of the helmets playlist and bunch of other old videos. So glad I found your channel and that you're making videos again!
It's so good to have you back!
Nice to see your return. :-)
Edit: Very informative vid and well done to all involved with the helmet.
Thank you. Thank you for coming back.
HEY! welcome back! missed you
Welcome back.
I am so giddy! Can barely contain myself. This has always been one of my favorite helmets. I followed the production as close as I could and have been waiting for a presentation such as this. Many thanks. Such a beauty...
5:40 Knyght Errant undercover as a museum curator... or is it the other way around?!!
Welcome back! We missed you... ^^
Swear to God u have a speaking phd, ur videos come out so smooth love it, keep up the good work
In case no one else mentioned it:
Glad to have you back.
I got to hold that helm in my hands at the Forging and was blown away by the detail in craftsmanship, as I was by the inherent design properties.
And as I expected, it goes rather well with your own harness.
Happy to see you back good sir. I am overjoyed with your return and the well informed videos you produce
Jesus Christ be praised, Ian has come to see us!
I really feel quite hungry.
@@Frostblast7 I feel quite hungray
@@SharkWrestler I wonder what Theresa is up to
@@SharkWrestler hungreh*
That bascinet looks pretty great. It’s nice to have you back Ian, I hope all is well with you and yours 😄
Extremely impressive reproduction and talk, so many thanks to all involved. When the internet is good, it's brilliant. :-)
As a keen student of history, I've learned a lot just recently from work like this, such as the name stop rib (and how vital it was against pointed weapons and, amazingly, broken arrow shaft splinters - see the recent Tod's Workshop video on long bows at Agincourt).
As for the battlefield usefulness of this helmet design, well I don't have the experience to say (my expertise is in ancient history) but for sure you would have severely degraded hearing in one and likely unresponsive to commands and fluid response on the field. But if you are an elite in a melee, well, they probably weren't that good at taking orders anyway. ;-)
Welcome back dude!
THE LEGEND IS BACK!!!!
OMG! I missed so much your videos!
This video is amazing.
So many details. So many assumptions. And so much work behind the scene.
thank you so much for the subtitles!
Huzzah, he is back! What a beautiful helmet.
Maybe wear it with a padded surcoat as in the manuscripts, it could add some cushioning between shoulder and helmet and keep points from slipping under the mail fringe.
I don't believe a padded surcote/Jupon would really be fitting for an italian harness of this period.
@@GeeBarone Yet the illuminations at 9:39, 11:38, 11:44 and 12:34 all do show some form of fabric worn over the plate. The examples in minute 11 even show the bascinet itself partially covered in fabric. Contemorary manuscripts, like for example the "Chroniques de France ou de St Denis", show almost no uncovered plate at all. For this reason and considering the decorations I believe this helmet predates the classic italian white armor.
@@mnk9073 Those examples are either not italian (french or iberian instead) or do not appear to my eyes to represent padded garments.
Indeed uncovered harness was less common (but far from unhead of) in italy in this period - i suspect more likely an unpadded surcote was much more likely than a padded one for a harness like this.
I wish i had a replica of the great bascinet helm
Hey, good to have you back! Just wanteds to drop by and say HELLO. Going to watch later, looking forward to it. Cheers, Jess
he's back!
The helmet design actually makes sense in the function perspective, and you studied many references, and then explained it all.
Indeed, you have returned. Welcome back, good sir.
Welcome back, Ian!
Before watching:
"Well, this doesn't look like the most interesting topic, but it's the first video in a while, so I'll watch.
After video:
"Holy hell that was unbelievably fascinating. Best helmet evah."
You still got it brother, thanks for the great work!
See, this is why I love RUclips. We would never get something this in-depth on television.
Ian! Welcome back!
Mac is a legend! And a big inspiration :) . Thank you for putting this video together, it's a great compilation of the information and research done for the helmet. Is the future of the reproduction known? I recall the possibility of it going on "tour" but hadn't seen a follow up to that.
Welcome back!!
A fantastic and very informative video. well done and i look forward to your next one.
Nice to see you back ! 🙂 One of my favorite tubers ever.
Glad to see you're ok. Thank you so much for posting a new video, it made my day. Very informative and high quality. Looking forward to more! Keep it up Ian!
Peculiar helmet. Good to see you're back, Ian!