Too many 3s, lack of defense, load management, players flopping, refs having a god complex, gambling, Silver being a pushover... The NBA is just a clusterfuck.
Meanwhile big splash brother curry still played better than Klay for his last warriors game. The man that changed the game is also getting washed. Ion see curry in the league two years from now.
NBA ratings are down because: 1. No defense. Team prioritize 3 points 2. Refs call everything a foul, and players always flopping. 3. Refs are very soft, calling technical fouls like giving out candies in Halloween. 4. Players are soft. Load management/entitled players who sit out multiple games. 5. **Top reason: Can't watch games free anymore! You need to have Hulu, Prime, League pass etc. (Can’t even watch your own team in your own city! Ridiculous! ** It's not worth it anymore. Even to go see games are hella expensive.
Depends on the game. For one I think there's too many games played. Each team should play each other twice in the season. That way traveling won't affect them as much because they won't have to play as much
This is part of the problem. Fans don’t wanna watch full games. And please don’t tell me you’d rather watch someone like Chuck backdown into the paint for 10 seconds. Jordan made the 90s look way better than yall remember
@@justanobody0because its part due to everyone watches highlights more than their watching the actual game these days every one is streaming things now plus it gets boring after a while watching a 10-15 minute stretch of no scoring and ppl jack’n up 3 balls plus the league is softer
@@saucegodxxthis exactly why my rockets are entertaining defense fastbreaks guys that knows their roles and a great coach no gimmicks no fake injuries or load management
I blame Mike d Antony and his late 2000s Suns. Zero defense and just outscore the other team. It’s unfair to call Curry the issue but it’s the 29 other teams that wished to have his offensive production by having a concerted effort make threes after the 73-9 season. Kerr perfected Pop’s style of ball movement and the nba has been stuck in purgatory ever since
The other day Tyler Herro shot 2/17 from the 3point line and just because he made a 3 to tie up the game everybody on Twitter thought he was some hero.
@@JG-hb2jmthat won’t happen because you don’t have the right players to do it… high school kids and college players play the same way .. we’re talking 10 to 15 years of the same style of basketball
Forget hand checking, bring back real centers and power forwards and you get better defense. As long as you have 4 perimeter players and a tweener playing inside who only rebounds, catches lobs or tries to defend the rim a hand checks won't change anything.
This would solve sooooo many issues bc now defenses could actually run shooters off the 3 point line. Everyone is skilled enough in the nba to score through hand checks, bring it back Adam Silver
@@Sunking210 over 50 percent of his shots are threes. I don’t consider a guy 7’5 whose primary offence is launching 9-10 threes a game at a 34 percent clip primetime.
@@ultimatetbawesomness lol that 34% number is so deceptive. He's shooting 38% from 3 in his past 15 or so games and yes on like 10 attempts a game. But yeah, may e catch a game or something instead of just box score watching? He definitely does way more than just shoot threes haha
@@Sunking210 Never said that’s all he does, it’s something you’re for whatever reason picking up. I watch games and don’t find his offensive game at this point interesting he needs more balance he’s young he’ll get there. 10 threes a game for a 7’5 guy is unwatchable.
@@napoleonbonaparte1260 Ja messed up, served his suspension and has been a model citizen for close to 2 years now. It's crazy you think the NBA shouldn't promote the Grizzlies for that. If you're a fan of basketball and not just into the drama you'll love watching them.
@@AlbertC-u3l LOL you just outed yourself that you don't watch. We brought in an assistant coach from the EuroLeague to implement a whole new offense that has a ton of movement, so much so that some people in the fanbase have complained that our star players don't get the ball enough. Grizzlies are 2nd in assists per game with 30.
Analytics, sports gambling, the games being geared for more offense, players not wanted to play, no mid range game, foul baiting, games not being readily accessible. Its many issues. I won't lie, I miss Dirk, Duncan and players who used the mid-range. Its nice when LeBron plays in the post. I think the Warriors started this. They had everyone who could make a 3pt shot so you couldn't play big. Now bigs have to shoot or theyre useless.
The warriors started it but it was still great basketball the 2018 rockets is why the nba is what it is today doe they was 3’s and layups only except cp3, harden n Chris Paul foul baiting
Yeah the three ball had been around for years because the league had international players dropping bombs from deep that’s what they did back in the day. But it was a good mix. but GS wins some chips from behind the arc and now if you can’t shoot a three you’re trash lol
I miss the old days when a big man played post down low not popping threes from the logo tf is that lol. Or when defense was defense. Offense was offense. Ppl actually played the game. Didn’t care about money so to speak no load management. The game was better. The old heads need to come out of retirement.
@@zakirparker111the warriors started it, but if you look at their championship rosters barring KD, it’s a complete all-around team. Not just curry and Klay jacking up threes even though that’s what is highlighted.
@@younglove3362 its minor when you look at the NBA product as a whole tbh. the game just isn't fun to watch anymore, zero defense and nothing but three's. the players have become extremely soft and entitled to every call.
@Ray-___- Then shut up and don't watch it. Most people are complaining and still watching. They're not there to entertain you They're there to compete and win. You just happen to be a watcher, entertained or not. 🙄
@@younglove3362 "most people are still watching" brother, this whole segment and topic on hand is that not enough people are watching, and many people like myself stopped watching a long time ago. NBA viewership has plummeted in the last 10 years. keep up lul and yes they're here to entertain people, that's the whole point of sport. top tier brain rot.
@Ray-___- Good, I wish many more people would stop watching. Especially if they're people like you. Not like you're going to go anywhere else and see the best of the best play. Meaning that it'll continue to keep going despite y'all not watching. And I'll hear less casual takes from people like you. Who am I kidding, yall will still come on and talk like you know anything while not watching the product.
lol that clown Jason on the cowherd show didn’t want to hear the truth that’s why he blamed inside the nba. But Chuck was telling the truth as usual nobody wanna keep watching these players jack up 3’s most of them can’t even shoot
They do all them 3s because that's how they being coached. Because analytics dictate that on average throwing all them 3s is better than going inside the paint. Plus if everyone throwing 3s there's less chance to get hurt. Them players been making a lot of money and nobody wants to get hurt.
The 3s and the Load Management are not the problem, it definitely contributes especially to more hardcore fans but a precedent of this scale is caused by something bigger. The problem is the accessibility, League Pass sucks and local broadcasting is being held hostage, everything is overpriced and there are too many ads, that's the biggest issue the NBA is forcing out the general public.
@@FSVR54 yeah but the nba ratings have been dropping since 2012. That still doesn't explain the kind of drop off that happened during the 2012-13 or 2013-14 season. Teams weren't just jacking a bunch of threes back then and the warriors didn't win their first stephen curry era championship either.
@@FSVR54 It's definitely an issue I'm not saying it isn't, it is for US, the more serious fans the ones who talk on social media, but not the casual fans, when viewership is down this much it's because the casuals are not interested or aren't watching, the game itself will never be apart of that a problem like this is always something like price, accessibility, or publicity.
Figure out how to use a proper saying for what you’re trying to say and get back to us. You “spin in your grave” when upset. You “dance on their grave” to show your disgust in them.
The thing is, injury rates have progressively worsened since the 90's, and it starts at the AAU level. Rookies today have as much milage as a 7 year vet in 1990. "Load Management" is surface level problem. It's about real injuries and neglect of the lower levels of the sport.
@@chief1325 The players are playing too much on adrenaline and too many transitional plays because of sloppy offense. They wouldn't need to be rested if they would just play quality half court basketball and not try to rush everything. It's like playing two games in one night in terms of the amount of possession changes.
@@aliali-ce3yf basketball is not a contact sport. Hard fouls are basically defenses admitting they are not skilled enough to defend you so they need to just try to hurt you instead
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 people don’t seem to understand that 😂. The Pistons knocked Jordan around because they couldn’t stop him that wasn’t real defense 😅
I said it before and I'll say it again: Stephen Curry ruined basketball. That's not a diss on him though. We know Steph is an all time great but the way he shoots and plays the game is one of a kind. Problem was when he blew up in 2015, he became so popular that kids would try to emulate that and think they can become the next Steph. But no one can be like him. So young players nowadays think jacking up 3's and shooting from the logo is good basketball fundamentals. It's also the reason why defense is getting worse and worse because so many players would give up on defense if their man blows by them so they can get back on transition offense and play high paced and shoot the ball nonstop. Only casuals and kids will say this is good basketball and it's old heads being jealous that players are more skilled. Learning to shoot 3's from far away and high scoring isn't being more skilled.
Just like everyone wanted to emulate Dr. J, Iverson, Deion Sanders, Barry Sanders, Terrel Owens, Micheal Vick, and Bo Jackson, and Odell Beckham. Times change and evolve gramps!
I feel like if he was the problem the league wouldve gotten like this year sooner. I know somebody will say its been like this, but thats just proof they werent watching nothing. 100 threes in a game. Never seen that. If its his fault its the 2022 Curry, not 2015. Outside that, the 2019 Rockets kept up with the superteam Warriors by jacking up 3s. That showed everybody that no matter how good a team is, you can win if you jack u p, and hit, enough 3s.
You have to realize everything eventually evolves in sports and life. NBA is more skill in handles , footwork, play making and shooting not just shooting from deep.
Shaq is wrong. The other day golden state shot 50% from 3 and got beat by Dallas, who shot 51% from 3. Both teams took over 40 3s each. It’s not only one, two, or three teams that can do this. Any team can do this at a given night, including charlotte. Now, some teams are more consistent, but if you want to beat those teams you have to try to get consistent at making 3s too. This is what the game has become. 3 is more than 2. Getting better at the 3 also makes your 2s easier. It’s over, this is the best strategy with the current rules. If you want to stop it, implement some rule changes.
27 missed 3s in a row from Houston. Remember this, the goal is to win a Chip. You're not doing that with this play style. Not to mention as they said it just sucks to watch.
@@melo15813 Then why don't you apply that logic to a team that's more stacked than this Boston's team which was the team that beat that Houston team in the form of prime GS?? 😂😂Y'all ignorant heads are just not sharp enough to think these things through before spewing nonsense and keep reproducing any narratives they sell to you lmao
NBA has made it so difficult/expensive to watch. I would watch if I could, but since I can't I just watch highlights online. I don't like the 3's, the NBA's blatant bias towards big market teams is tiresome, and load management is lame. But I'd still watch if I could.
@@KhillybutWarm2 paying for a service, that pushes ads every chance they get pushes people away. greed replaced pride. "the kia mvp award" is a insult any player that wins it
Analytics tells teams that the only shots worth taking are corner threes, open threes, free throws, and layups. Hence every ofense is designed to generate those 3 shots. The Rules have also been adjusted to maximize those 3 shots. It's simply a question of math so to fix it you have to change the math. To change the math you likely need to do several different things. 1) allow hand checking on the parimeter again. This will make it harder to get into the paint on drives causing rotations leading to open 3s/corner 3s. It will aslo make step back threes harder becasue the defender can ride you closer with a hand on you. 2) They need to allow players to be very physical in defending the rim. They can and should still call fouls but the flagerants and ejections have to stop. 3) get rid of the restricted area under the basket. the NBA should play more back to backs as tired legs don't shoot distance shots as well. Players will never go for these things because they don't want a physical game anymore and Owners don't want players on guaranteed contracts getting injured. So if those aren't possible you have to explore some radical changes like, getting rid of the corner 3 by making the 3 point line a true arch or capping how many points you can score via 3 point shot or making dunks worth 3 points etc. Of course none of this solves the problem of the fact that the players don't really care about the regular season which load management proves every year. There really isn't a way to solve that without being draconian. Something like if you don't play in at least 65 games you are not elidgible to play in the post season (unless you average less than 18 minutes an appearance). You could give injury expemtions but have the qualification be something like have to have missed 15 consecutive games etc.
When I was young, and dinosaurs roamed the earth, I remember when the 3 point shot was first created. The great coach John Thompson at Georgetown said that they had it backwards. He said that it takes no effort to get an open shot from way out at the three point line, but it takes a real basketball play to work it inside. Therefore, he said, a layup should be worth 3 points but a shot from out at the line should be 2, and maybe only 1 point.
lol that’s one way to look at it. The 3 point shot is worth more simply because it’s a harder shot to hit. Your margin for error is much lower than a layup
He was right...we've had it backwards the whole time. Getting down in the paint amongst the wolves and lions for a dunk should be worth 3 , while a lazy, bailout 3 should be worth 1. I agree. He's right.
Maybe a regular inside shot should be worth 2 points, and dunks could be worth 3 points? I actually really like the idea of switching it up like that. More players would attack the rim, essentially being rewarded for exciting plays. This way teams can choose to attack the rim or shoot a million threes, and both teams can compete. Alley oops aren't exactly easy, let's make exciting dunks worth 3 points. I would honestly say that dunking on someone who's grabbing you is a lot more difficult than shooting from the outside while you're wide open.
Everybody in the NBA wants to shoot only 3’s. They want to be like Steph Curry. Most of them join each other’s Podcast and be friends 😂. They want to sit out and yet still get paid hundreds and millions of dollars. Players like Victor from the Spurs should be dominating in the paint and he is not. In-Season Tournament is such a JOKE!! If the players do not want to play and sit out then let them but there will be CONSEQUENCES!! Pay them less, fine them, I’m sure there’s plenty of ways to punish them. If anything then just get them out of the NBA league.
Long time Chicago bulls fan here; The bulls have completely lost their sense of identity ever since they've traded away Drose and Butler. Bulls used to pride themselves on their defensive first mentality but it's completely flipped unfortunately.
@@youtubehandle102 Preach. No one would watch a new a Iron Man movie where the old actors are constantly bashing the new one and saying how better the old one is.
Memphis destroyed GSW by 50 points last night in there house. And all the fans were gone before the 4th quarter began. What kind of fans leave when there team is up by 50? It is boring even if they make them.
I prefer G league games. Dudes scrapping to earn a paycheck, often play more team ball because they know their best shot is as a role player. Don’t have these ridiculous egos and entitlement, the load management, etc.
Its a big problem. Don't remember the last time I watched a full NBA game. And it's because of the players ruining the league. I blame Steph Curry. Everyone thinks they can shoot like him and they can't.
Everybody in the NBA wants to shoot only 3’s. They want to be like Steph Curry. Most of them join each other’s Podcast and be friends 😂. They want to sit out and yet still get paid hundreds and millions of dollars. Players like Victor from the Spurs should be dominating in the paint and he is not. In-Season Tournament is such a JOKE!! If the players do not want to play and sit out then let them but there will be CONSEQUENCES!! Pay them less, fine them, I’m sure there’s plenty of ways to punish them. If anything then just get them out of the NBA league.
@@chrollolucilfer5409 Steph is not a complete player.. that’s all he do is shoot 3s and when he’s not making 3s he’s useless. … and the NBA and fans labeled him the idea player and style to play like and it ruined basketball… look at college and high school players… they all want to shoot 3s… shooting 15% from 3s with 50+ 3s a game is cringe af
I hate watching teams which depend too much on taking 3 points. That makes the game as if robots are playing. Basketball is not that. It is about making clever plays and taking simple or spectacular shots inside the paint.
Teams be chucking up 3s like crazy, you'll have minutes with no points being made because both teams are having 3pt contests. Its annoying, its like no one wants to play in the paint or go for the mid range
The NBA removes illegal defense to slow down Shaq. In order to recreate the space they once had, players become way better shooters on average. Refs then forget what a moving screen is. This all led to many teams adopting the same play style... With that being said, teams still play their own style, the big complainers don't actually watch basketball.
@@illWillienumber31 without defense, there is no excitement. The games look like celebrity all-star game, where everybody has a clear view at the basket. Currently, college basketball is more exciting. They need to fire Adam Silver, the NBA has been in a continuos decline since he became commissioner.
The competitiveness is really low compared to back then. 3S are the new thing and there is nothing wrong with that but the restrictions on the competition whether it is on defense or celebrating on a dunk, where are the strong rivalries. These players come out to compete only when it matters, they don't do it for the pride or to say that they are the best in the world anymore. Again 3S are not the problem. You can tell competition level is low until a little before the playoffs because the nba has to create something new every time viewership is low. And lets not even talk about the all-star game because I am not even going to watch it. I might see highlights of it but other than that nothing because I know there is no competition involved.
@@AlbertC-u3l You lack comprehension skills. Would competitive players really be shooting 104 3s a game? Maybe you're young and not that guy. Especially with all those little pictures you use
@@tyxstream5480 Here are the last six NBA champions, in order: Toronto, the Los Angeles Lakers, Milwaukee, Golden State, Denver and now Boston. More parity and competition in the NBA than ever unlike the watered down 90's where it was just the Bulls and 80's with just the Lakers/Celtics.
3s per se are not the problem... but taking quality shots is... when you see pro players take stupid shots just to take a 3 instead of an easy shot it feels stupid...
The second coming of Shaq would jack up threes too. Look at Wemby he is 7'4". Nobody plays or teaches post up basketball anymore. The game of basketball is trash now.
Wemby weighs as much as prime Shaq's left leg first of all. Secondly if there was a 7 foot 2 315 pound center like a prime Shaq that guy will absolutely have a post game. Look at Joker. He plays more on the interior and in the paint, but shoots somewhere between 1 to 2 threes a quarter. But that's the type of guy who would be the one to change it.
@@vbeard5887 Ralph Sampson is the same size as Wemby and he played in the paint. Manute Bol 3" taller, played in the paint. Post play isn't about weight as much as skill. Olajuwon dominated Prime Shaq he weight 255. Wemby weighs 235.
i recommend you watch Zion Williamson games when he's healthy. his game is based solely off strength and driving the paint, he only shot 6 three's last year.
And the coach won't do a damn thing because he's the biggest draw in the team. It showed that they couldn't draft well and team has no balance (Charlotte hasn't been to playoffs in years).
@@mirkecWii change the scoring system to 3s and 4s. The reason people are shooting so many 3s is because it’s so mathematically advantageous. The point differential is huge and a below average 3pt shooter has a higher impact than an elite 2pt shooter. Switching to 3/4 reduces the net value of the distance shot and requires a much higher degree of precision to be effective.
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 Exactly! I've been saying this for years. The ratio is broken. The 3 being worth 50% more points is way too much; it's a glitch in the system. BUT... the problem with 3s and 4s is the free throws. You can't have players shooting more FT's because that slows the game down. You might have to go to 4s and 5s instead, and then make FT's worth 2. And you only get two free throws for a foul on a 3-point shot.
@@twown I think you can still have them shoot 3 FT’s, but maybe change the time limit to 5 seconds instead of (a loosely enforced) 10. Could keep things moving. Scaling historic records regarding FT’s would be impossible though
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 But assuming the FT's are worth 2 points each, then the free throws (6 points) would be worth more than the shot attempt (5 points). That doesn't seem right either. (I've given this a lot of thought. lol)
@@twown Oh no, I imagined keeping FT's worth 1 point and just have players attempt as many as their shot attempt was worth. Yeah... this is the wrench in things lol
Imagine modern players shootin so many threes and still getting hurt and load managing and missing games with todays modern training and medicine and complaining about playing back to back games!!
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you said a lot there chief so I'll give ya thumbs up
@@chief1325 lol, these plebs think that the 3 is just a circus shot. They purposely ignore its value, likely because their nostalgia teams from the past wouldn't even score 50 in this era. They would be routed by superior defensive tactics and peak offensive onslaught. Best 90s team would be swept by the Wizards to be frank.
3s were such a big deal back then. When ray allen was hittin 3s it was just amazing. Because there was so much other stuff going on so when 3s were falling it was so fun. Its watered down now its boring
this was like watching Duke 20 years ago, all they did was shoot 3s i stopped watching all together, 3s and the final 2 minutes takes 20 minutes with fouls and free throws, every game ends the same way aside from a blow out
That’s one of the issues in the NBA when I’m watching teams like the Boston Celtics or the Thunder or any other teams is the three-point shooting is ridiculous. To have that many three-point attempts is crazy to me and it’s embarrassing. What happened to Showtime? Guys going for a dunks and layups crossover jumpers mid range things like that. Now on the fast break you’re pulling up for three instead of going for layups or dunks.
If the stats say the 3 ball is better, teams will do it. Teams have got lazy and not enough IQ in the back office of most organizations to actually know that an uncontested layup is always better than a 3. Unfortunately young athletes are being told to flair to the corners in stead of positioning for that layup.
They’re shooting more threes because it’s 50% more points at only 10% less FG % so you’re marginally adding more relative points per attempt assuming league averages in FG% from 2 and 3. It has nothing to do with personnel or coaching fads.. it’s all statistics.
regular season games are turning into what the all star game used to be. .and honestly playoff games are like what regular season games used to be.. and on top of that. the stars dont play on nationally televised games so nobody watches. and yes, all the game is now is a 3 point shooting contest.
You summed it up perfectly. It really looks like nobody on the court cares what the score is, nobody is out there firing the team up if they're down, and nobody plays with any edge like Kobe or Kevin Garnett back in the day
I just commented suggesting a system where each team is allotted fifteen 3-point attempts in the first three quarters. And then they are each given an additional five 3-point attempts in the fourth quarter. With this, they are forced to use them wisely. I believe in 2004 the average team shot about nineteen 3-pointers a game.
Or after making 15 or 20 3 pointers, anything beyond that counts for 2 points. So teams will store them and only try for them in the 4th quarter either when games are close so they want to blow the other team out, or they're so behind that they want to catch up.
The low ratings during the regular season has nothing to do with all of sports media repeating "all that matters is a ring/the playoffs are all that matters!" For the last decade. I'm sure that has almost no effect
Definitely too many 3’s being shot, I always get pissed at my Bulls giving up open layups to shoot a contested 3. I can’t how many times they’ve done that this season.
Ironically Boston, the face of Analytics, has among the best, if not the best/most versatile defense in the game. Yall just dont like when three point teams play defense too 😂
Sorry but I watched that garbage in the 2000’s. I’d rather watch teams shoot 100+ 3s a game than dribbling in circles for 20 seconds only to brick a mid range jumper. Also, the NBA is entirely inaccessible. I watch the league constantly but haven’t contributed to the ratings in almost 10 years because I just stream everything online. To actually watch the game requires a blood sacrifice
I completely agree with you. There's a nostalgia from these talking heads ("back in my day" kinda stuff) for a game that is less complex and arguably, like you said, uglier to watch. I'd rather see the best shooters shoot, but somehow they're complaining about it in a Celtics (defending champs) vs Bulls game, two teams with good 3 point shooters (Kenny's analysis leaves much to be desired). I said it in another comment but I completely agree about the accessibility. Some of these online streams are better quality/experience than their official app, not even going to mention the blackouts for local teams,
@@justsomeguy2142uhm aint no one wants to be like Jordan 😂 if you asked someone “do you want to be like Curry or Jordan” people will say curry because hes a crazy 3 point shooter 😂
In Asia, shooters are the new demigods, kids can finally imitate someone in the NBA; the TV ratings are through the roof. I keep telling the youngsters, if you want to take basketball seriously, you got to be able to drain 3's with your eyes closed cause you'll never outgrow your opponents, but you can outshoot them.
In my opinion, the 2010s were the best era of basketball. 3s, inside game, defense, hustle, skill, it was pure hoops. Players cared about winning and worked hard on their skills. Now, players try too hard to be Steph Curry. We have star players like Jokic and Luka who clearly don't care about the game enough to work out or play defense. Other players like Joel Embiid, Zion, and Ben Simmons are all lazy. Everybody has a podcast and refuses to lock in, like why was PG talking about leaked lockeroom footage? It also doesn't help that the media and fans push dumb narratives on good players who work hard and focus on the game like Jayson Tatum. Not to mention the officiating is probably the worst it's been in a while. It's a combination of a lot of problems.
@@TeamButchMcCray NFL ratings have plateaued since the 2010s. People are not watching more football. They're just watching less of everything else. I know you really want this to be a simple discussion with easily digestible talking points, but the reality is there are several contributing factors both within and without the NBA's control. The overall popularity of the NBA has never been bigger, it's only dwindled in the US. Largely because it's simply hard to watch NBA games. Between all the different TV networks and local syndicates, you need like 5 different streaming services to watch. And there's 1,230 games in an NBA season.
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 excuses, excuses, excuses... NBA ratings are down because no one wants to watch that 💩 anymore. It is pretty simple, you're making it complicated. No one wants to see any team anymore.. there's really no need to defend the trash product the NBA office and players have put out. But have at it.
Chuck is right. Scared to really coach the players. He’s right, they will pout and things will short circuit. You’ll be looking at trade requests, poor effort, and bad defense. Extremely unlikable talent in nba. Not a good mix.
this is all just labels. Ive been watching “the better” basketball recently to see where this criticism is coming from and it’s baseless claims. if they didnt have the 3 point label and viewed all jumpers the same we would have nothing to talk abt here. The 80s and 90s were full of ugly and awful contested midrange jumpers that they might as well take 2 steps back and at least have a chance at 3 points. Ugly contested jumpers have always been a part of basketball. Magic was far from a great shooter but he had no problem pulling up whenever over whoever no matter how ugly it was.
This is absolutely the point. You simply can't get a layup every single possession, because then a team will just pack the paint on you, and then maths tells you that you might as well take the chance at the 3, instead of the long 2
@ yea but yk how ugly and bad wide open missed 2s are its so much worse. Also getting to the basket and posting up is still king in the NBA. People just like to complain
Every play ending up with someone jacking up a three is ugly. You can literally predict how every play is gonna end up. Might as well turn of the TV and look up the stats later. If you want to defend the NBA losing viewers then be my guest lol.
The concept of a three point shot was always kinda flawed. Teams get rewarded for forgoing more advanced strategies and physical play in favor of just chucking up threes all game. It’d make more sense to reward accuracy vs distance, like for example any shot that goes in without touching the backboard first is three points, if it touches the backboard it’s two.
Too many 3s, lack of defense, load management, players flopping, refs having a god complex, gambling, Silver being a pushover... The NBA is just a clusterfuck.
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Agreed, but the only reason people watched those horrible MNF games was for fantasy and gambling
@@joebuol1969football been atrocious to watch
You forget that every year several teams under .500 make the playoffs
and whiny ass fans to top it all off......
More ppl watch inside the nba then they watch the actual nba games lol
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Thats hurting ratings, they bash the games n players
Only major sports league where ratings are down
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108 threes LMAO
Meanwhile big splash brother curry still played better than Klay for his last warriors game. The man that changed the game is also getting washed. Ion see curry in the league two years from now.
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Yeah, I thought they made a mistake when they said that at first. I had to rewind it. Sheeesh!
@@gumbz_keu yappin
its only getting worse
NBA ratings are down because:
1. No defense. Team prioritize 3 points
2. Refs call everything a foul, and players always flopping.
3. Refs are very soft, calling technical fouls like giving out candies in Halloween.
4. Players are soft. Load management/entitled players who sit out multiple games.
5. **Top reason: Can't watch games free anymore! You need to have Hulu, Prime, League pass etc. (Can’t even watch your own team in your own city! Ridiculous! **
It's not worth it anymore. Even to go see games are hella expensive.
Certain players get tons of favorable calls like Harden used to, now it's Shai. If he gets no calls like in that Tournament Final game, he sucked.
broke it down perfectly
This is a very great comment
Do they show games on ABC on Sundays still?
Preach, no way id ever pay for the NBA ever again, its a horrible product to watch,stream it for free. 😆
It's more fun watching these guys bashing the game than watching the game itself
Inside the NBA is waaaaaay more interesting than 98% of games the last 3 years
Miss Shaq putting the javavele magee clips 🤣🤣🤣
All they do is talk about rings lol
Depends on the game. For one I think there's too many games played. Each team should play each other twice in the season. That way traveling won't affect them as much because they won't have to play as much
This is part of the problem. Fans don’t wanna watch full games. And please don’t tell me you’d rather watch someone like Chuck backdown into the paint for 10 seconds. Jordan made the 90s look way better than yall remember
100% and last ten years*
You know the nba really falling off now if inside the nba talkin about it
😂😂😂
The NBA is poo these days 💩
@@InfiniteCoreXD Inside the NBA washed up old dudes still stuck in the 90's.
@@hitek9too255Ratings be dropping doe. That's a fact
@@okaeT Too bad the NBA just made 13 billion and broke record attendance unlike the 90's.
Over 100 threes shot this game that's madness
they should rename basketball to threeball
The curry effect
@@tys1646 but why are ratings going down?
@@justanobody0because its part due to everyone watches highlights more than their watching the actual game these days every one is streaming things now plus it gets boring after a while watching a 10-15 minute stretch of no scoring and ppl jack’n up 3 balls plus the league is softer
@@saucegodxxthis exactly why my rockets are entertaining defense fastbreaks guys that knows their roles and a great coach no gimmicks no fake injuries or load management
The ridiculous amount of 3’s in todays game is ruining the game
This is all because of Steph Curry and Caitlin Clark when you think about it. They both changed the game of basketball
Been going on since like 2017. The game has steadily been getting worse the last 30 years. It peaked from 1984-1993.
I blame Mike d Antony and his late 2000s Suns. Zero defense and just outscore the other team. It’s unfair to call Curry the issue but it’s the 29 other teams that wished to have his offensive production by having a concerted effort make threes after the 73-9 season. Kerr perfected Pop’s style of ball movement and the nba has been stuck in purgatory ever since
@ I’m a Celtics season ticket holder and i typically sell most of my tickets now. Even the Pats are hard to justify keeping
Y’all wanted to gas up 3pt shooters all these yrs. This is what u get 🤷♂️
Both teams combined for 108 3s and made 33 of them it’s just annoying watching the nba nowadays
The other day Tyler Herro shot 2/17 from the 3point line and just because he made a 3 to tie up the game everybody on Twitter thought he was some hero.
"Some hero" wordplay
Lamelo 3/18 😭
he did not shoot 2/17 wth are you talking about
WHY ARE YOU LYING
HE DID SHOOT BAD BUT IT WAS NOT 2/17
Me when I lie
I’m so glad this is finally being addressed
Exactly
@@jumahbrady670 I hope we get the league back in the right direction soon
@@JG-hb2jmthat won’t happen because you don’t have the right players to do it… high school kids and college players play the same way .. we’re talking 10 to 15 years of the same style of basketball
Why? It's not going anymore and I'm glad.
@@JG-hb2jmyou don’t watch the NBA lol
add hand checking back in too, i want more defense
This.
Forget hand checking, bring back real centers and power forwards and you get better defense. As long as you have 4 perimeter players and a tweener playing inside who only rebounds, catches lobs or tries to defend the rim a hand checks won't change anything.
Don’t think hand checking stops anything
there was hand checking in the 80s and they were still scoring 120 points a game.
This would solve sooooo many issues bc now defenses could actually run shooters off the 3 point line. Everyone is skilled enough in the nba to score through hand checks, bring it back Adam Silver
Imagine if players and coaches in the past complained if the media was being “too negative”.
NBA makes soccer look like UFC at this point
FUTBOL OR FOOTBALL
He’s saying Wemby is exciting to watch?? Dude takes 10 threes a game and is 7’5. What’s fun to watch about that?
Brotha people literally only watch the nba for wemby lol what?
Wemby is primetime! He does launch threes, but that doesn't mean that is all he does, such a ridiculous take
@@Sunking210 over 50 percent of his shots are threes. I don’t consider a guy 7’5 whose primary offence is launching 9-10 threes a game at a 34 percent clip primetime.
@@ultimatetbawesomness lol that 34% number is so deceptive. He's shooting 38% from 3 in his past 15 or so games and yes on like 10 attempts a game. But yeah, may e catch a game or something instead of just box score watching? He definitely does way more than just shoot threes haha
@@Sunking210 Never said that’s all he does, it’s something you’re for whatever reason picking up. I watch games and don’t find his offensive game at this point interesting he needs more balance he’s young he’ll get there. 10 threes a game for a 7’5 guy is unwatchable.
Lefkoe is right. The Memphis Grizzlies play a super fun style of basketball. It's a shame they are never on national television.
After Ja showing off his guns? Stop it.
@@napoleonbonaparte1260 Ja messed up, served his suspension and has been a model citizen for close to 2 years now. It's crazy you think the NBA shouldn't promote the Grizzlies for that. If you're a fan of basketball and not just into the drama you'll love watching them.
Not fun to watch.. still basically the same.. one on one and no offensive plays.
@@AlbertC-u3l LOL you just outed yourself that you don't watch. We brought in an assistant coach from the EuroLeague to implement a whole new offense that has a ton of movement, so much so that some people in the fanbase have complained that our star players don't get the ball enough. Grizzlies are 2nd in assists per game with 30.
Word
Analytics, sports gambling, the games being geared for more offense, players not wanted to play, no mid range game, foul baiting, games not being readily accessible.
Its many issues. I won't lie, I miss Dirk, Duncan and players who used the mid-range. Its nice when LeBron plays in the post.
I think the Warriors started this. They had everyone who could make a 3pt shot so you couldn't play big. Now bigs have to shoot or theyre useless.
They might not have started it but they made it popular because they won championships doing it. Splash brothers🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
The warriors started it but it was still great basketball the 2018 rockets is why the nba is what it is today doe they was 3’s and layups only except cp3, harden n Chris Paul foul baiting
Yeah the three ball had been around for years because the league had international players dropping bombs from deep that’s what they did back in the day. But it was a good mix. but GS wins some chips from behind the arc and now if you can’t shoot a three you’re trash lol
I miss the old days when a big man played post down low not popping threes from the logo tf is that lol. Or when defense was defense. Offense was offense. Ppl actually played the game. Didn’t care about money so to speak no load management. The game was better. The old heads need to come out of retirement.
@@zakirparker111the warriors started it, but if you look at their championship rosters barring KD, it’s a complete all-around team. Not just curry and Klay jacking up threes even though that’s what is highlighted.
The way that video ended lmfao
Shaq: Dumbass thre- 😂
😂😂😂😂😂 I was looking for this comment
There’s no one who enjoys just three point shootouts. It’s boring. No wonder people don’t watch anymore
Nobody talks about how hard it is to watch a game because there are too many services
Finally, a comment that makes sense about the NBA.
@@younglove3362 its minor when you look at the NBA product as a whole tbh. the game just isn't fun to watch anymore, zero defense and nothing but three's. the players have become extremely soft and entitled to every call.
@Ray-___-
Then shut up and don't watch it. Most people are complaining and still watching. They're not there to entertain you They're there to compete and win. You just happen to be a watcher, entertained or not. 🙄
@@younglove3362 "most people are still watching" brother, this whole segment and topic on hand is that not enough people are watching, and many people like myself stopped watching a long time ago.
NBA viewership has plummeted in the last 10 years. keep up lul and yes they're here to entertain people, that's the whole point of sport. top tier brain rot.
@Ray-___-
Good, I wish many more people would stop watching. Especially if they're people like you. Not like you're going to go anywhere else and see the best of the best play. Meaning that it'll continue to keep going despite y'all not watching. And I'll hear less casual takes from people like you.
Who am I kidding, yall will still come on and talk like you know anything while not watching the product.
Analytics got us here.
The problem?
Analytics sponsored by betting bookies
lol that clown Jason on the cowherd show didn’t want to hear the truth that’s why he blamed inside the nba. But Chuck was telling the truth as usual nobody wanna keep watching these players jack up 3’s most of them can’t even shoot
Little buddy has no clue what he’s talking about most of the time.
Exactly, if the majority of people disagreed they wouldn’t watch this show as much as they do. They’re just saying what their eyes are seeing.
They do all them 3s because that's how they being coached. Because analytics dictate that on average throwing all them 3s is better than going inside the paint. Plus if everyone throwing 3s there's less chance to get hurt. Them players been making a lot of money and nobody wants to get hurt.
@@JoshDavis1016 he probably mad cause nobody watches their show
I mean, they actually bash every team and players every night
Sports gambling also has a hand in this. Players know their odds
yea they are employee of bookie now who u think pay they 60mil a year salary LOL
If I was a player I would bet 5 million on myself to score 4 threes
I wonder who benefits from degenerate gambling?? 👃🏻
I wonder who benefits from degenerate gambling? 👃🏻
Gambling is an addiction. Pete Rose, Shoehei Ohtani, etc etc. Competitive people want an outlet 😂
The 3s and the Load Management are not the problem, it definitely contributes especially to more hardcore fans but a precedent of this scale is caused by something bigger. The problem is the accessibility, League Pass sucks and local broadcasting is being held hostage, everything is overpriced and there are too many ads, that's the biggest issue the NBA is forcing out the general public.
It's a HUGE problem. The product sucks BECAUSE of the 3s
Umm it’s definitely part of the problem these dudes get paid all this money and don’t want to play it’s pathetic
Can't forget the problem with refs
@@FSVR54 yeah but the nba ratings have been dropping since 2012. That still doesn't explain the kind of drop off that happened during the 2012-13 or 2013-14 season. Teams weren't just jacking a bunch of threes back then and the warriors didn't win their first stephen curry era championship either.
@@FSVR54 It's definitely an issue I'm not saying it isn't, it is for US, the more serious fans the ones who talk on social media, but not the casual fans, when viewership is down this much it's because the casuals are not interested or aren't watching, the game itself will never be apart of that a problem like this is always something like price, accessibility, or publicity.
David Stern dancing in his grave in disbelief on what Adam Silver is doing to what he built.
Figure out how to use a proper saying for what you’re trying to say and get back to us. You “spin in your grave” when upset. You “dance on their grave” to show your disgust in them.
"Viktor Wenbayama is special", yeh a 7 footer who shoots as many 3s as everyone else. It's embarassing
1. Load management 2. Too many 3s
it's also te fact that they barely call travel and carry anymore
They just dont
The NBA players has always been able to do that … shooting way too many 3s and shot selection is a major problem
Thank you.
@@AlbertC-u3l it's not. especially when they're making them. 3s are better than 2s. They should allow defenders to be more physical on them shooters
Ratings are down 100% because of load management. I literally decide not to watch games when I find there’s a stat that’s out
Did it last night with Luka and Kyrie being out
The thing is, injury rates have progressively worsened since the 90's, and it starts at the AAU level. Rookies today have as much milage as a 7 year vet in 1990. "Load Management" is surface level problem. It's about real injuries and neglect of the lower levels of the sport.
@@chief1325 The players are playing too much on adrenaline and too many transitional plays because of sloppy offense. They wouldn't need to be rested if they would just play quality half court basketball and not try to rush everything. It's like playing two games in one night in terms of the amount of possession changes.
That’s actually an angle I’ve never thought of but you’re right
It’s too many games, they should have less games if they can’t handle it. This is why football has the ,ost views per game by far
College basketball reg season is way better. Less games, better games and every game matters. I go to the NBA after NCAA tourney is done.
I haven’t even checked out highlights this yesr
“Well that just helps Kenny’s point”
“That’s what I’m doing”
😂😂😂😂😂
bring back 90s defense, it'll stop all the 3s real quick. get too cute, get a hard foul
You watch any teams that play strong defense??? OKC, Orlando, Memphis, a couple others.
@@aliali-ce3yf basketball is not a contact sport. Hard fouls are basically defenses admitting they are not skilled enough to defend you so they need to just try to hurt you instead
@@BlazerManiacNumber96exactly elite defense is work of art even fouling should be done with the intent of not injuring the other player
Compared to the 80s the 90s was soft
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 people don’t seem to understand that 😂. The Pistons knocked Jordan around because they couldn’t stop him that wasn’t real defense 😅
I said it before and I'll say it again: Stephen Curry ruined basketball. That's not a diss on him though. We know Steph is an all time great but the way he shoots and plays the game is one of a kind. Problem was when he blew up in 2015, he became so popular that kids would try to emulate that and think they can become the next Steph. But no one can be like him. So young players nowadays think jacking up 3's and shooting from the logo is good basketball fundamentals. It's also the reason why defense is getting worse and worse because so many players would give up on defense if their man blows by them so they can get back on transition offense and play high paced and shoot the ball nonstop. Only casuals and kids will say this is good basketball and it's old heads being jealous that players are more skilled. Learning to shoot 3's from far away and high scoring isn't being more skilled.
When you start calling Steph Curry a point guard, you know something is wrong.
You mean nerds like Daryl Morey! Steph is one of the few that should be taking 3s!
Just like everyone wanted to emulate Dr. J, Iverson, Deion Sanders, Barry Sanders, Terrel Owens, Micheal Vick, and Bo Jackson, and Odell Beckham. Times change and evolve gramps!
I feel like if he was the problem the league wouldve gotten like this year sooner. I know somebody will say its been like this, but thats just proof they werent watching nothing. 100 threes in a game. Never seen that. If its his fault its the 2022 Curry, not 2015. Outside that, the 2019 Rockets kept up with the superteam Warriors by jacking up 3s. That showed everybody that no matter how good a team is, you can win if you jack u p, and hit, enough 3s.
You have to realize everything eventually evolves in sports and life. NBA is more skill in handles , footwork, play making and shooting not just shooting from deep.
I stopped watching the NBA when they started shooting threes nonstop. It’s less aggressive and boring.
Ratings are down because you need 3 apps and cable to watch games. Also blackout games literally prevent you from watching games
Shaq is wrong. The other day golden state shot 50% from 3 and got beat by Dallas, who shot 51% from 3. Both teams took over 40 3s each.
It’s not only one, two, or three teams that can do this.
Any team can do this at a given night, including charlotte. Now, some teams are more consistent, but if you want to beat those teams you have to try to get consistent at making 3s too.
This is what the game has become. 3 is more than 2. Getting better at the 3 also makes your 2s easier.
It’s over, this is the best strategy with the current rules.
If you want to stop it, implement some rule changes.
The only precised take there is..
27 missed 3s in a row from Houston. Remember this, the goal is to win a Chip. You're not doing that with this play style. Not to mention as they said it just sucks to watch.
@@melo15813 Boston literally playing that way last season fam 😂
@@judyclarkson5887 the most stacked talented team in the league is gonna win no matter what
@@melo15813 Then why don't you apply that logic to a team that's more stacked than this Boston's team which was the team that beat that Houston team in the form of prime GS?? 😂😂Y'all ignorant heads are just not sharp enough to think these things through before spewing nonsense and keep reproducing any narratives they sell to you lmao
ncaa is more competitave than nba regular season
Yeah but those same kids will come to the NBA and shoot 3s
@@coolkid4138 I disagree .. they take horrible shots … college basketball is not like it used to be.
@@AlbertC-u3l i love ncaa because when you bet on underdog you always win 🙉
@@coolkid4138lies
You say that like it hasn't always been that way
NBA has made it so difficult/expensive to watch. I would watch if I could, but since I can't I just watch highlights online. I don't like the 3's, the NBA's blatant bias towards big market teams is tiresome, and load management is lame. But I'd still watch if I could.
It's not just bad NBA ratings. People don't watch TV the same way these days. Ratings are down all over TV because of streaming and social media
@@KhillybutWarm2 paying for a service, that pushes ads every chance they get pushes people away. greed replaced pride. "the kia mvp award" is a insult any player that wins it
Come to the pirate side brother 🏴☠️🏴☠️
im only here for chuck, not too interested in full games
@@collinday1782 expensive?
Analytics tells teams that the only shots worth taking are corner threes, open threes, free throws, and layups. Hence every ofense is designed to generate those 3 shots. The Rules have also been adjusted to maximize those 3 shots. It's simply a question of math so to fix it you have to change the math. To change the math you likely need to do several different things. 1) allow hand checking on the parimeter again. This will make it harder to get into the paint on drives causing rotations leading to open 3s/corner 3s. It will aslo make step back threes harder becasue the defender can ride you closer with a hand on you. 2) They need to allow players to be very physical in defending the rim. They can and should still call fouls but the flagerants and ejections have to stop. 3) get rid of the restricted area under the basket. the NBA should play more back to backs as tired legs don't shoot distance shots as well. Players will never go for these things because they don't want a physical game anymore and Owners don't want players on guaranteed contracts getting injured. So if those aren't possible you have to explore some radical changes like, getting rid of the corner 3 by making the 3 point line a true arch or capping how many points you can score via 3 point shot or making dunks worth 3 points etc.
Of course none of this solves the problem of the fact that the players don't really care about the regular season which load management proves every year. There really isn't a way to solve that without being draconian. Something like if you don't play in at least 65 games you are not elidgible to play in the post season (unless you average less than 18 minutes an appearance). You could give injury expemtions but have the qualification be something like have to have missed 15 consecutive games etc.
Get rid of the 0 step. Call carries. Call travels. Limit the amount of 3’s you can attempt per team before they count as 2’s.
When I was young, and dinosaurs roamed the earth, I remember when the 3 point shot was first created. The great coach John Thompson at Georgetown said that they had it backwards. He said that it takes no effort to get an open shot from way out at the three point line, but it takes a real basketball play to work it inside. Therefore, he said, a layup should be worth 3 points but a shot from out at the line should be 2, and maybe only 1 point.
lol that’s one way to look at it. The 3 point shot is worth more simply because it’s a harder shot to hit. Your margin for error is much lower than a layup
John Thompson was wrong
He was right...we've had it backwards the whole time. Getting down in the paint amongst the wolves and lions for a dunk should be worth 3 , while a lazy, bailout 3 should be worth 1. I agree. He's right.
Chamberlain would have just got the dunk outlawed twice if they did that.
Maybe a regular inside shot should be worth 2 points, and dunks could be worth 3 points? I actually really like the idea of switching it up like that. More players would attack the rim, essentially being rewarded for exciting plays. This way teams can choose to attack the rim or shoot a million threes, and both teams can compete.
Alley oops aren't exactly easy, let's make exciting dunks worth 3 points. I would honestly say that dunking on someone who's grabbing you is a lot more difficult than shooting from the outside while you're wide open.
New rule once a team attempt 30 3’s during the game, if they end up making them after the 30th attempt, it’s just two points 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂the players would whine and complain so hard. Lolol
Everybody in the NBA wants to shoot only 3’s.
They want to be like Steph Curry.
Most of them join each other’s Podcast and be friends 😂.
They want to sit out and yet still get paid hundreds and millions of dollars.
Players like Victor from the Spurs should be dominating in the paint and he is not.
In-Season Tournament is such a JOKE!! If the players do not want to play and sit out then let them but there will be CONSEQUENCES!! Pay them less, fine them, I’m sure there’s plenty of ways to punish them. If anything then just get them out of the NBA league.
Long time Chicago bulls fan here; The bulls have completely lost their sense of identity ever since they've traded away Drose and Butler. Bulls used to pride themselves on their defensive first mentality but it's completely flipped unfortunately.
Shaq hit it on the nail. “Why would I use your strategy if I don’t have your personnel?” Everyone thinks they’re Steph.
The fact that all nba media hates on their own product doesn’t help. I wouldn’t watch a movie where the director said it was really boring
@@youtubehandle102 Preach. No one would watch a new a Iron Man movie where the old actors are constantly bashing the new one and saying how better the old one is.
NBA media are old players. They hate the new product.
This new NBA lacks passion the older generation had.
These new kids are spoiled asf.
@youtubehandle102 yeah it's kinda crazy when u really think about it
@@twizzy585ots what's so crazy about it?
You are exactly right. Because they never talk about the teams that are playing the old style basketball. Like the Grizzlies and the Spurs..
No-one wants to watch teams that aren't good at shooting bricking 3's all night
Memphis destroyed GSW by 50 points last night in there house. And all the fans were gone before the 4th quarter began. What kind of fans leave when there team is up by 50? It is boring even if they make them.
@fchillaxing
Fans that have stuff to do and lives to live when a game is already done before the time is up. 🙄
It’s on the coaches because they are scared of getting fired.
Also the "gather step" that allows the plays to blatantly travel.
Agree
I prefer G league games. Dudes scrapping to earn a paycheck, often play more team ball because they know their best shot is as a role player. Don’t have these ridiculous egos and entitlement, the load management, etc.
Forget about triple single, how about triple Donut 😂
Its a big problem. Don't remember the last time I watched a full NBA game. And it's because of the players ruining the league.
I blame Steph Curry. Everyone thinks they can shoot like him and they can't.
Everybody in the NBA wants to shoot only 3’s.
They want to be like Steph Curry.
Most of them join each other’s Podcast and be friends 😂.
They want to sit out and yet still get paid hundreds and millions of dollars.
Players like Victor from the Spurs should be dominating in the paint and he is not.
In-Season Tournament is such a JOKE!! If the players do not want to play and sit out then let them but there will be CONSEQUENCES!! Pay them less, fine them, I’m sure there’s plenty of ways to punish them. If anything then just get them out of the NBA league.
Why are you blaming curry then? lmao blame the teams that try to copy the warriors like the bum celtics
I don't want to watch Curry either.
@@chrollolucilfer5409 Steph is not a complete player.. that’s all he do is shoot 3s and when he’s not making 3s he’s useless. … and the NBA and fans labeled him the idea player and style to play like and it ruined basketball… look at college and high school players… they all want to shoot 3s… shooting 15% from 3s with 50+ 3s a game is cringe af
Even he can’t anymore on a regular basis now that he’s getting older
I hate watching teams which depend too much on taking 3 points. That makes the game as if robots are playing. Basketball is not that. It is about making clever plays and taking simple or spectacular shots inside the paint.
Teams be chucking up 3s like crazy, you'll have minutes with no points being made because both teams are having 3pt contests. Its annoying, its like no one wants to play in the paint or go for the mid range
Stopped watching the NBA about 5 years ago, because most games are just chucking up 3s and no defense
The NBA removes illegal defense to slow down Shaq. In order to recreate the space they once had, players become way better shooters on average. Refs then forget what a moving screen is. This all led to many teams adopting the same play style... With that being said, teams still play their own style, the big complainers don't actually watch basketball.
@@illWillienumber31 without defense, there is no excitement. The games look like celebrity all-star game, where everybody has a clear view at the basket. Currently, college basketball is more exciting. They need to fire Adam Silver, the NBA has been in a continuos decline since he became commissioner.
The Nuggets were the last team I saw that were fun to watch in the NBA
The competitiveness is really low compared to back then. 3S are the new thing and there is nothing wrong with that but the restrictions on the competition whether it is on defense or celebrating on a dunk, where are the strong rivalries. These players come out to compete only when it matters, they don't do it for the pride or to say that they are the best in the world anymore. Again 3S are not the problem. You can tell competition level is low until a little before the playoffs because the nba has to create something new every time viewership is low. And lets not even talk about the all-star game because I am not even going to watch it. I might see highlights of it but other than that nothing because I know there is no competition involved.
Tbf we as fans have pretty much dismissed anything a player accomplishes prior to June. Look at how everybody is clowning the NBA Cup.
Shooting 104 3s a game and averaging 85 points is not a problem ,??? 🤦🏾♂️. You must be young 😂😂😂
@@AlbertC-u3l You lack comprehension skills. Would competitive players really be shooting 104 3s a game? Maybe you're young and not that guy. Especially with all those little pictures you use
@@tyxstream5480 Here are the last six NBA champions, in order: Toronto, the Los Angeles Lakers, Milwaukee, Golden State, Denver and now Boston. More parity and competition in the NBA than ever unlike the watered down 90's where it was just the Bulls and 80's with just the Lakers/Celtics.
3s per se are not the problem... but taking quality shots is... when you see pro players take stupid shots just to take a 3 instead of an easy shot it feels stupid...
When Shaq drops the Dumba** it’s always hilarious
This is one of the reasons why we need to appreciate watching Jokic play......One of the few playing the FUNDAMENTAL basketball
To answer Shaq asking if it will ever go back to every team having different approaches to the game. Yes, we just need a second coming off Shaq
The second coming of Shaq would jack up threes too. Look at Wemby he is 7'4". Nobody plays or teaches post up basketball anymore. The game of basketball is trash now.
Wemby weighs as much as prime Shaq's left leg first of all. Secondly if there was a 7 foot 2 315 pound center like a prime Shaq that guy will absolutely have a post game. Look at Joker. He plays more on the interior and in the paint, but shoots somewhere between 1 to 2 threes a quarter. But that's the type of guy who would be the one to change it.
@@vbeard5887 Ralph Sampson is the same size as Wemby and he played in the paint. Manute Bol 3" taller, played in the paint. Post play isn't about weight as much as skill. Olajuwon dominated Prime Shaq he weight 255. Wemby weighs 235.
i recommend you watch Zion Williamson games when he's healthy. his game is based solely off strength and driving the paint, he only shot 6 three's last year.
Go back to Shaq? Shaq had no skill, was lazy on defense, and had a poor work ethic and sucked at free throws.
Lamelo shot 3/18 from 3 had 32 on 34 attempts
And the coach won't do a damn thing because he's the biggest draw in the team. It showed that they couldn't draft well and team has no balance (Charlotte hasn't been to playoffs in years).
That sounds disgusting 3/18 …the coach should have said no more 3 point shots…..
Gone are days where 3s are beautifully set plays. Now the NBA is pure offense and no defense
Old heads who’ve been out the league too long, and I love the fellas. No ones watching games because it’s too expensive!! Everyone’s on streameast
I just don't see how you stop it, if threes are winning you games and championships, they will use it
@@mirkecWii change the scoring system to 3s and 4s. The reason people are shooting so many 3s is because it’s so mathematically advantageous. The point differential is huge and a below average 3pt shooter has a higher impact than an elite 2pt shooter. Switching to 3/4 reduces the net value of the distance shot and requires a much higher degree of precision to be effective.
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 Exactly! I've been saying this for years. The ratio is broken. The 3 being worth 50% more points is way too much; it's a glitch in the system. BUT... the problem with 3s and 4s is the free throws. You can't have players shooting more FT's because that slows the game down. You might have to go to 4s and 5s instead, and then make FT's worth 2. And you only get two free throws for a foul on a 3-point shot.
@@twown I think you can still have them shoot 3 FT’s, but maybe change the time limit to 5 seconds instead of (a loosely enforced) 10. Could keep things moving.
Scaling historic records regarding FT’s would be impossible though
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 But assuming the FT's are worth 2 points each, then the free throws (6 points) would be worth more than the shot attempt (5 points). That doesn't seem right either. (I've given this a lot of thought. lol)
@@twown Oh no, I imagined keeping FT's worth 1 point and just have players attempt as many as their shot attempt was worth. Yeah... this is the wrench in things lol
Imagine modern players shootin so many threes and still getting hurt and load managing and missing games with todays modern training and medicine and complaining about playing back to back games!!
you said a lot there chief so I'll give ya thumbs up
There you used to be a time when teams delegated the 3pt shot to the players who averaged over 40%.
Now everyone and their mama is shooting it.
33% times 3 is one point.
50% times 2 is one point.
So why would you need to shoot 40%?
The 3-pt shot is too valuable. That's the problem.
Because it's statistically equally efficient to the 2-point shot. What is it with people not looking at the stats
@@chief1325 lol, these plebs think that the 3 is just a circus shot. They purposely ignore its value, likely because their nostalgia teams from the past wouldn't even score 50 in this era. They would be routed by superior defensive tactics and peak offensive onslaught. Best 90s team would be swept by the Wizards to be frank.
@@freddypyotr3771 thank you lol
3s were such a big deal back then. When ray allen was hittin 3s it was just amazing. Because there was so much other stuff going on so when 3s were falling it was so fun. Its watered down now its boring
this was like watching Duke 20 years ago, all they did was shoot 3s i stopped watching all together, 3s and the final 2 minutes takes 20 minutes with fouls and free throws, every game ends the same way aside from a blow out
Wemby a 10’ guy jacking up 3s. Rather than dunking on everyone. 😂😂😂 All that to be told: “oh you are a unicorn”…
Nobody says Wemby is a unicorn. Wemby is a alien.
That’s one of the issues in the NBA when I’m watching teams like the Boston Celtics or the Thunder or any other teams is the three-point shooting is ridiculous. To have that many three-point attempts is crazy to me and it’s embarrassing. What happened to Showtime? Guys going for a dunks and layups crossover jumpers mid range things like that. Now on the fast break you’re pulling up for three instead of going for layups or dunks.
Adam Lefkoe is great at hosting this show.
If the stats say the 3 ball is better, teams will do it.
Teams have got lazy and not enough IQ in the back office of most organizations to actually know that an uncontested layup is always better than a 3. Unfortunately young athletes are being told to flair to the corners in stead of positioning for that layup.
They’re shooting more threes because it’s 50% more points at only 10% less FG % so you’re marginally adding more relative points per attempt assuming league averages in FG% from 2 and 3. It has nothing to do with personnel or coaching fads.. it’s all statistics.
That’s so boring
regular season games are turning into what the all star game used to be. .and honestly playoff games are like what regular season games used to be.. and on top of that. the stars dont play on nationally televised games so nobody watches.
and yes, all the game is now is a 3 point shooting contest.
You summed it up perfectly. It really looks like nobody on the court cares what the score is, nobody is out there firing the team up if they're down, and nobody plays with any edge like Kobe or Kevin Garnett back in the day
@@jareddickerson5127 Giannis does, but most of the other superstars of today I'd agree
Yep players don't care, Adam Silver doesn't care, that translates through the TV screen. Why would they expect fans to care?
politics, 3s, and the refs are undeniably why ratings are down, in that order IMO
Put a cap on how many three's can be taken in a game
I just commented suggesting a system where each team is allotted fifteen 3-point attempts in the first three quarters. And then they are each given an additional five 3-point attempts in the fourth quarter. With this, they are forced to use them wisely.
I believe in 2004 the average team shot about nineteen 3-pointers a game.
Or after making 15 or 20 3 pointers, anything beyond that counts for 2 points. So teams will store them and only try for them in the 4th quarter either when games are close so they want to blow the other team out, or they're so behind that they want to catch up.
@@VCT3333 I like that. And it's less complicated than my idea.
The low ratings during the regular season has nothing to do with all of sports media repeating "all that matters is a ring/the playoffs are all that matters!" For the last decade. I'm sure that has almost no effect
There’s too many games. Nobody cares or find games significant until playoffs come around
It’s 3’s and NO defense and stars sitting out way too much
3’s are part of the game… we in Europe are more delighted when players hit the 3’s👌
And ya in Europe absolutely SUCK in basketball, watching European basketball is depressing
@@TheExclusiveOne720All the best players in the NBA are European lol
Shooting bad shots is acceptable??? 😂😂😂 dude you know nothing about sports
Definitely too many 3’s being shot, I always get pissed at my Bulls giving up open layups to shoot a contested 3. I can’t how many times they’ve done that this season.
Ironically Boston, the face of Analytics, has among the best, if not the best/most versatile defense in the game. Yall just dont like when three point teams play defense too 😂
14 of 56 from three!?? Good lord
Sorry but I watched that garbage in the 2000’s. I’d rather watch teams shoot 100+ 3s a game than dribbling in circles for 20 seconds only to brick a mid range jumper.
Also, the NBA is entirely inaccessible. I watch the league constantly but haven’t contributed to the ratings in almost 10 years because I just stream everything online. To actually watch the game requires a blood sacrifice
I completely agree with you. There's a nostalgia from these talking heads ("back in my day" kinda stuff) for a game that is less complex and arguably, like you said, uglier to watch. I'd rather see the best shooters shoot, but somehow they're complaining about it in a Celtics (defending champs) vs Bulls game, two teams with good 3 point shooters (Kenny's analysis leaves much to be desired). I said it in another comment but I completely agree about the accessibility. Some of these online streams are better quality/experience than their official app, not even going to mention the blackouts for local teams,
Curry absolutely killed the game.
Casual take, by that logic so did Jordan
@@justsomeguy2142uhm aint no one wants to be like Jordan 😂 if you asked someone “do you want to be like Curry or Jordan” people will say curry because hes a crazy 3 point shooter 😂
@Bixeqe2so you just gonna ignore the two decades of be “like Mike” lol
@@princejellyfish3945 NGA THATS BEYOND THE POINT NOBODY WANTS TO BE LIKE MIKE ANYMORE DF? every kids dream is to be like curry 😂
Curry didn’t do this, this is lazy coaching and analytics
In Asia, shooters are the new demigods, kids can finally imitate someone in the NBA; the TV ratings are through the roof. I keep telling the youngsters, if you want to take basketball seriously, you got to be able to drain 3's with your eyes closed cause you'll never outgrow your opponents, but you can outshoot them.
Aight nba should move to Asia then cause nobody wants to watch that bs
@@AJB2333 Why not just change the rules then? Don't blame it on the consumers.
In my opinion, the 2010s were the best era of basketball. 3s, inside game, defense, hustle, skill, it was pure hoops. Players cared about winning and worked hard on their skills. Now, players try too hard to be Steph Curry. We have star players like Jokic and Luka who clearly don't care about the game enough to work out or play defense. Other players like Joel Embiid, Zion, and Ben Simmons are all lazy. Everybody has a podcast and refuses to lock in, like why was PG talking about leaked lockeroom footage? It also doesn't help that the media and fans push dumb narratives on good players who work hard and focus on the game like Jayson Tatum. Not to mention the officiating is probably the worst it's been in a while. It's a combination of a lot of problems.
Flops killed the game for me, stopped watching years ago when every drive turns into a foul.
But these fans that cry about too much 3s are the ones that cry that Giannis only scores in the paint. Make it make sense
Yeah some of these fans don’t know what they want they cry when it’s contact in the paint 😂
Giannis doesn't just score in the paint, he takes 3s too
Delete the 3 point line.
They gonna have to do it.
ratings are down because people don't watch TV as before, TV will vanish in a couple of decades
No, it's the 3s, the lack defense, the load management, the travels.. how you gonna blame tv.
@@TeamButchMcCray Because he’s right. Linear broadcast television has been on a death spiral for the past decade
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 are NFL ratings down?? I rest my case.
@@TeamButchMcCray NFL ratings have plateaued since the 2010s. People are not watching more football. They're just watching less of everything else. I know you really want this to be a simple discussion with easily digestible talking points, but the reality is there are several contributing factors both within and without the NBA's control. The overall popularity of the NBA has never been bigger, it's only dwindled in the US. Largely because it's simply hard to watch NBA games. Between all the different TV networks and local syndicates, you need like 5 different streaming services to watch. And there's 1,230 games in an NBA season.
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 excuses, excuses, excuses... NBA ratings are down because no one wants to watch that 💩 anymore. It is pretty simple, you're making it complicated. No one wants to see any team anymore.. there's really no need to defend the trash product the NBA office and players have put out. But have at it.
The should allow hand checking outside 3 point line
and in paint
Chuck is right. Scared to really coach the players. He’s right, they will pout and things will short circuit. You’ll be looking at trade requests, poor effort, and bad defense. Extremely unlikable talent in nba. Not a good mix.
this is all just labels. Ive been watching “the better” basketball recently to see where this criticism is coming from and it’s baseless claims. if they didnt have the 3 point label and viewed all jumpers the same we would have nothing to talk abt here. The 80s and 90s were full of ugly and awful contested midrange jumpers that they might as well take 2 steps back and at least have a chance at 3 points. Ugly contested jumpers have always been a part of basketball. Magic was far from a great shooter but he had no problem pulling up whenever over whoever no matter how ugly it was.
This is absolutely the point. You simply can't get a layup every single possession, because then a team will just pack the paint on you, and then maths tells you that you might as well take the chance at the 3, instead of the long 2
@ yea but yk how ugly and bad wide open missed 2s are its so much worse. Also getting to the basket and posting up is still king in the NBA. People just like to complain
Every play ending up with someone jacking up a three is ugly. You can literally predict how every play is gonna end up. Might as well turn of the TV and look up the stats later. If you want to defend the NBA losing viewers then be my guest lol.
They should ban the 3 pt shot or give technical if someone shoots more than 2 threes. More power to the people and certain haters!
Stop it bruh that’s dumb😂
The concept of a three point shot was always kinda flawed. Teams get rewarded for forgoing more advanced strategies and physical play in favor of just chucking up threes all game. It’d make more sense to reward accuracy vs distance, like for example any shot that goes in without touching the backboard first is three points, if it touches the backboard it’s two.
The reason I switched off is that there are just way too many games to watch and keep up with. My life is too busy to watch hundreds of games of nba
Curry changed the game bro, he got everybody thinking they can hit from anywhere