Great video! Those Sabers are going to be hard to beat! I definitely appreciate your attention to detail and consistency in your testing procedures. Always looked up to your videos as what to strive for. Thanks for your hard work!
Worker's bamboo heavyweights are some of the best darts ive ever used, but more importantly they're not a pain in the ass to buy like saber darts are. I really wanted some of XYL's epp darts but no one wants to restock them except for a couple of very suspicious vendors. Worker's darts continue to be the baseline as far as i can see, but they can do better with their foam, and they have yet to do an epp entry so far.
Would have liked to see the rumbling darts FPS tested with the BCAR removed when you got that unexpected lower performance, just in case the bamboo ridges were being affected by the BCAR. It still wouldn't make a difference in the overall testing, but would have been handy to understand if it was a rifling issue rather than a barrel contact issue. Good work on your detailed review as always!
Absolutely useful, as always. Thanks giving us 'just the facts', with no silly 'open mouthed' image of you grinning at a toy. thumbnail. I guess most of the others have different audiences of varied ages and interests, that only want to see the new blaster. It's fair to say from your sub number, a little over 30k worldwide ( understanding English ) are interested in the 'Stats' of how a blaster performs.
You could easily do a time to target test. Measure the beginning of the spring/trigger sound to the beginning of the sound of dart hitting the target. So you could see how long it takes to go 30 meters. I think that is more meaningful than distance or initial muzzle velocity. You could synch it up with a 240 frames per second camera (or better) easily and cheaply.
Kinda want to see a lower fps test as well because since these are slower they might give an advantage if we were limited by fps to like 220 or even 100.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I would really like to see a now FPS test because many HPZ events have a hard cap of 120 fps and the average of all blasters is still only about 80 fps if you take everything into account
Do you think you will review the flag and armour 3x5 CNC BCAR any time in the future? I am currently debating buying either this or the Accublu BCAR 18, since they are in the same price range.
worker darts will still continue to be mid. But somethign tells me that's honestly point. Make great blasters and do benchmarking with the middle ground.
I think the Rumbling head destruction test may be slightly flawed, }pulling the head didn't show how much force it would take to destroy the dart because the post of the head didn't fully detach like it would from the inside. Maybe testing how much force it would take to push the head out from the back would be a better test?
@BradleyPhillipsYT my thought was perhaps some sort of base with a post on top that you could mount the dart on and pull down of the middle of the foam body to measure the downward force need to either pop the head off or tear the foam.
@@Samuraifr-bs for what purpose? Backyard plinking probably the Kunlun, if you're looking for a competitive blaster the only one you mentioned was the Sabre.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT for doing wars with my friends and just sniping each other from long ranges. I mentioned the M00SE 1 because of the power that it had so it could do snipes but then the kunlun can do the same thing and it has a bolt action feel so I think ill go with the kunlun! thanks! :)
@@Daniel-fm7yh others likely don't have the same amount of bearings as this one or the loose fit where the bearing have a little give to them as the dart moves through.
We all appreciate that you are the one youtuber who does consistent range and accuracy tests. Most "reviews" from other youtubers are more their impressions and are not particularly helpful for competitive play. The one other youtuber, (and the one I'm guessing you're referring to) that does accuracy tests in a similar format to yours is backyard foam, his reviews are helpful for blasters that are only sold in the US. Also, have you ever played airsoft (I know it's illegal in Australia), and would you play it instead of nerf if you lived in the US?
@@NateBenson-s6i backyard foam and AaronPlinks both do this kind of testing. Also if Airsoft was legal here I would probably be playing that instead. Haven't played it before though.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Interesting, I honestly find airsoft quite dull compared to my normal 250 fps nerf wars. There's a lot less movement because everybody has full auto high-capacity accurate AEG and more sitting behind cover trying to take shots when possible. Definitely a cool mil sim environment though, as long as people don't take it too seriously.
@@NateBenson-s6i I think the capacity limitations of Nerf is what keeps me playing it despite having access to Airsoft. That and the ability to play on basically any public property with little concern.
I don't have a better idea of a strength/durability test, but I do think that because the rubber ripped that it was NOT a indicator of what might fail with high use. Maybe you could use a microscope and check out the difference in foam 😅 What are the other channels that are doing testing?
In actual use, both dart types should be fine and not fail to be honest with you. As for other test channels, Aaronplinks is one who does similar testing.
30 meters is too short for a large number of youtubers, as they just don't have that much yard size. Most also don't shoot with the power you do, most of them sit down closer to 150 FPS, probably because many do Nerf instead of airsoft because they DON'T want bruises and welts.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT i have the same bcar as you do in this video, its only accurate to like 10m metres then they dramatically fly off in random directions
I dont have one, but one one guys in my group has an apex and he hates it. Like cannot say good things about it. There's another guy in my group that recently bought an ultima, and he's loving it tho. But when when you're paying more than 1k for a blaster, every shot better be orgasmic, lol.
I know right? I got nerfs for an 8 year old this christmas. The fact grown men take it so seriously makes me wonder what grown women are doing ? Certainly doesnt look like theyre being taken out for a chicken dinner by the men.
Also the fact I'm pretty sure paintball is banned or HEAVILY restricted in most parts of Australia, where this youtuber is from, and most of the east Asian countries, where most nerf stuff comes out of.
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Great video! Those Sabers are going to be hard to beat! I definitely appreciate your attention to detail and consistency in your testing procedures. Always looked up to your videos as what to strive for. Thanks for your hard work!
What happened to those Dartzone Max Nitro shots? Why not incorporate those after their successful test.
I used them all up unfortunately
@@lyonel4044 not sold internationally makes them hard to get hold of and came up worse than Sabre in my test the other week
Did you test them with the Apex? Missed that vid.
Tested them with the Storm against Sabre.
they are only 1g, this video is comparing heavy 1.3g darts
Very Dramatic entrance of the "Rumbling Darts".......😊 "Let's get ready to Rumble"
Bradley Phillips is definitely one of the best Nerf youtubers out there. Keep up the great work. 👍🏼
Good video Bradley, really starting to consider getting a Sabre Apex Prime - that accuracy is unreal and really consistent.
Worker's bamboo heavyweights are some of the best darts ive ever used, but more importantly they're not a pain in the ass to buy like saber darts are. I really wanted some of XYL's epp darts but no one wants to restock them except for a couple of very suspicious vendors. Worker's darts continue to be the baseline as far as i can see, but they can do better with their foam, and they have yet to do an epp entry so far.
Would have liked to see the rumbling darts FPS tested with the BCAR removed when you got that unexpected lower performance, just in case the bamboo ridges were being affected by the BCAR. It still wouldn't make a difference in the overall testing, but would have been handy to understand if it was a rifling issue rather than a barrel contact issue. Good work on your detailed review as always!
Absolutely useful, as always. Thanks giving us 'just the facts', with no silly 'open mouthed' image of you grinning at a toy. thumbnail. I guess most of the others have different audiences of varied ages and interests, that only want to see the new blaster. It's fair to say from your sub number, a little over 30k worldwide ( understanding English ) are interested in the 'Stats' of how a blaster performs.
Are you testing the rumbling 2 rib vs 3 rib vs 4 rib?
I feel like 2 rib darts( like what comes with the Dart Zone Solo) are the best for springers for FPS.
I believe AaronPlinks has done a video about this
These ones are 4 rib. The main difference I think a 2 rib may get better fps slightly.
I think the rumbling darts might perform better in rapid fire flywheel blasters, enabling a high rate of fire with more consistent fps.
You could easily do a time to target test. Measure the beginning of the spring/trigger sound to the beginning of the sound of dart hitting the target. So you could see how long it takes to go 30 meters. I think that is more meaningful than distance or initial muzzle velocity. You could synch it up with a 240 frames per second camera (or better) easily and cheaply.
@@michaellee4276 have done it before. Could be worth doing again.
Kinda want to see a lower fps test as well because since these are slower they might give an advantage if we were limited by fps to like 220 or even 100.
Pretty sure a Sabre dart at 220fps will still marginally beat these adjusted to also hit 220fps.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I would really like to see a now FPS test because many HPZ events have a hard cap of 120 fps and the average of all blasters is still only about 80 fps if you take everything into account
Do you think you will review the flag and armour 3x5 CNC BCAR any time in the future? I am currently debating buying either this or the Accublu BCAR 18, since they are in the same price range.
Good one mate
worker darts will still continue to be mid. But somethign tells me that's honestly point. Make great blasters and do benchmarking with the middle ground.
I'm gonna continue to buy worker over Tdarts for this reason. Or atleast until my club decides to switch from gen 3's to Tdarts idk
I think the Rumbling head destruction test may be slightly flawed, }pulling the head didn't show how much force it would take to destroy the dart because the post of the head didn't fully detach like it would from the inside. Maybe testing how much force it would take to push the head out from the back would be a better test?
Good suggestion, I'll have a think about a way you could measure that.
@BradleyPhillipsYT my thought was perhaps some sort of base with a post on top that you could mount the dart on and pull down of the middle of the foam body to measure the downward force need to either pop the head off or tear the foam.
Kunlun, sabre or a M00SE 1?
@@Samuraifr-bs for what purpose? Backyard plinking probably the Kunlun, if you're looking for a competitive blaster the only one you mentioned was the Sabre.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT for doing wars with my friends and just sniping each other from long ranges. I mentioned the M00SE 1 because of the power that it had so it could do snipes but then the kunlun can do the same thing and it has a bolt action feel so I think ill go with the kunlun! thanks! :)
Keep up the good work. Straight to the info, it can't get simpler.
I've also gotten rumbling darts directly from taobao for like 5 c a dart. Much more cost effective than buying Tdarts.
Nice video bro - love these comparrisons. Do you know if other 5 degree BCARs have similar performance to the Sabre one?
@@Daniel-fm7yh others likely don't have the same amount of bearings as this one or the loose fit where the bearing have a little give to them as the dart moves through.
We all appreciate that you are the one youtuber who does consistent range and accuracy tests. Most "reviews" from other youtubers are more their impressions and are not particularly helpful for competitive play. The one other youtuber, (and the one I'm guessing you're referring to) that does accuracy tests in a similar format to yours is backyard foam, his reviews are helpful for blasters that are only sold in the US.
Also, have you ever played airsoft (I know it's illegal in Australia), and would you play it instead of nerf if you lived in the US?
@@NateBenson-s6i backyard foam and AaronPlinks both do this kind of testing. Also if Airsoft was legal here I would probably be playing that instead. Haven't played it before though.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Interesting, I honestly find airsoft quite dull compared to my normal 250 fps nerf wars. There's a lot less movement because everybody has full auto high-capacity accurate AEG and more sitting behind cover trying to take shots when possible. Definitely a cool mil sim environment though, as long as people don't take it too seriously.
@@NateBenson-s6i I think the capacity limitations of Nerf is what keeps me playing it despite having access to Airsoft. That and the ability to play on basically any public property with little concern.
@@derkaiser9881 same!
I miss the coke can shots
I don't know how I ended up here but I enjoyed the video.
What's the point of the pull test?
@@TacticalLulu durability
I don't have a better idea of a strength/durability test, but I do think that because the rubber ripped that it was NOT a indicator of what might fail with high use. Maybe you could use a microscope and check out the difference in foam 😅
What are the other channels that are doing testing?
In actual use, both dart types should be fine and not fail to be honest with you. As for other test channels, Aaronplinks is one who does similar testing.
@BradleyPhillipsYT thank you, I like his soda can challenge and I was actually thinking your shot group on this test would have been perfect for that.
30 meters is too short for a large number of youtubers, as they just don't have that much yard size. Most also don't shoot with the power you do, most of them sit down closer to 150 FPS, probably because many do Nerf instead of airsoft because they DON'T want bruises and welts.
@@Valandar2 150fps can easily reach 30M
Aaron Plinks has the full 1 2 3 and 4 rib test. ruclips.net/video/2F2-iiM0-E4/видео.html
@@calvinchan9792 the 4 rings are all that Monkeemods had
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Keep up the vids love the content ! BTW Worker has a new spring for the kun lun msg worker direct !
@@calvinchan9792they already messaged me to send one
Love what you're doing, Bradley. Greetings from Philadelphia.
Hey Bradley! Do you still own any of your longshots from your first videos?
@@iwostrains not anymore, haven't had those for quite a few years.
Are the rumbling darts shorter than the Tdarts? Longer length probably allowed it to accelerate in barrel longer
@@sdchew Rumbling darts were the same length
Anyone else’s sabre hella inaccurate?
Maybe if you don't have rifling on it?
@@BradleyPhillipsYT i have the same bcar as you do in this video, its only accurate to like 10m metres then they dramatically fly off in random directions
I dont have one, but one one guys in my group has an apex and he hates it. Like cannot say good things about it. There's another guy in my group that recently bought an ultima, and he's loving it tho. But when when you're paying more than 1k for a blaster, every shot better be orgasmic, lol.
@@dot0verdrive my HC diana is more accurate than my apex at any distance.
@@oldm8alfiewhat darts are you using in it? Hasbro Elites?
Why am I not surprised at the hobbies of grown men....
No more Worker darts, SabreT, Rumbling and Nitroshot+ darts are the way now
Rumbling Darts should be good to drop my FPS without mods, I like the color since red hurts my eyes, photosensitive person, I am !!!!!
Just play paintball?
HPA?
I know right? I got nerfs for an 8 year old this christmas. The fact grown men take it so seriously makes me wonder what grown women are doing ? Certainly doesnt look like theyre being taken out for a chicken dinner by the men.
Funny enough, paintball has less energy than modded nerf blasters do. So the reason why not paintball? Well why would I want to down grade?
Also the fact I'm pretty sure paintball is banned or HEAVILY restricted in most parts of Australia, where this youtuber is from, and most of the east Asian countries, where most nerf stuff comes out of.
@forteandblues he can't. In Australia paintball is illegal and is considered a firearm