Excellent session! My first experience with floating recoveries was with the Mona Fartlek, and I found that doing that workout after a long block of tempo work provided a real jumpstart to my fitness. In short, I'm a big believer and want to try this one out...
Tried it today and it was really fun. I'm trying to run a 90 min half marathon (have run faster before but I'm older now) and this was the result: 1.60 4:07/km pace 2.00 4:42 (Float) 1.20 3:59 2.00 4:46 (Float) 0.80 3:51 2.00 4:56 (Float) 0.40 3:15
@@Trackstaa_ also forgot to mention. I love seeing these types of videos where you detail training methods. Really helps me as a runner learning from someone a lot faster!
Interesting to hear about your perspective on float recoveries, knowing that jakob does a lot of walk or still recovery, would you say floats are better for longer distance 10k+? Or overall just a great way to build aerobic capacity, I’ve noticed getting really aerobically fit off short 30s-60s recoveries
both have their merits, I would say float recovery has really helped my endurance, but I also do a lot of what Jakob does. Like you said I'f say float recoveries help you get fit, jakobs helps you become the best
Id be curious to learn about breathing techniques used by elite runners. It seems like an obvious and important part of aerobic training but what are the best ways to go about it?
Tried this kind of float training before cause I absolutely agree if you can get it down I think it can be extremely beneficial to help build endurance and aerobic capacity. Any tips for how to like really nail it though? Ive done it in fartlek sessions mainly and would find myself having a hard time keeping the floats the same. I would want my floats around 5:50-6:00 and would have some floats at 5:30’s some floats at 6:30’s sometimes would even out but not as much as I’d like.
the way I did it was 1K on 1K float for 10-20K. the 1K was slightly faster than threshold so it's not a really tough session, which allowed me to focus on the float, but honestly I sometimes check splits every 100m to make sure my floats right
@@Trackstaa_ I think staying on the track like you’ve done makes sense its just interesting dynamic because exactly like you said I would find myself focusing so much more on my floats than my actual “on” reps
@@bryanryder7196 honestly the On reps kind of take care of themselves because weirdly the effort feels exactly appropriate for what you’re going for. It gradually gets harder. The hardest float is for sure after the 800m like that’s just as hard as an on rep
At least Stateside, this is known as "The Michigan" (Ron Warhurst [Very Nice Track Club] came up with it while he was coaching at the University of Michigan). Such a hard session, but damn it gets you fit 😅
Yeah it’s a little variation on the Michigan does he normally choose to do it with rest ? I’m not entirely sure on the exact specifics but it’s certainly majorly inspired by the Michigan. Very hard but a great workout
@@Trackstaa_ there's a short "rest" (usually less than a minute) to switch between spikes and flats, Warhurst liked to have the fast sections on the track, with the 2k floats on the road, so athletes would switch footware (for obvious reasons)
I really appreciate this kind of vlogs but I have a doubt about the lenght of recovery. IMHO it looks it too long, couldn't it better only 1k? thanks in advance for ur comments
because it's float it's not just a recovery it's also getting extra volume in. If it was jog then yes, but 2K float is great, 1K float wouldn't be enough volume
@@stefanocostagli8374 probably a bit slower than marathon pace. I’m not a marathon runner so it’s hard to correlate it right. But I’d be able to run about 2:14 right now without specific training.
Excellent session! My first experience with floating recoveries was with the Mona Fartlek, and I found that doing that workout after a long block of tempo work provided a real jumpstart to my fitness. In short, I'm a big believer and want to try this one out...
Couldn’t agree more. Mona Fartlek is awful hahaha it’s so hard.
Tried it today and it was really fun. I'm trying to run a 90 min half marathon (have run faster before but I'm older now) and this was the result:
1.60 4:07/km pace
2.00 4:42 (Float)
1.20 3:59
2.00 4:46 (Float)
0.80 3:51
2.00 4:56 (Float)
0.40 3:15
Your not lookig so old with those paces😂
Good job bro keep motivated keep hustling
appreciate it
How can i achive 1600m 4:41 tell me some tips please man
Great job running
Thanks
You can't beat a multi pace training session 💪 👌 👍
3:20 as your float pace is 🔥🔥🔥
Great vid I’ll have to give it a try
thanks!
I see the adidas gear! How are you getting on with the adios pro 3? 👀
Love the pro 3. It’s got the most push forward I’ve felt in a shoe. Also very soft.
@@Trackstaa_ also forgot to mention. I love seeing these types of videos where you detail training methods. Really helps me as a runner learning from someone a lot faster!
So at what point of season you should do this session? When trying to peak or in base training?
I do it throughout the whole of the season, with faster floats and slower targets in base and slightly slower floats but faster targets in peak
Interesting to hear about your perspective on float recoveries, knowing that jakob does a lot of walk or still recovery, would you say floats are better for longer distance 10k+? Or overall just a great way to build aerobic capacity, I’ve noticed getting really aerobically fit off short 30s-60s recoveries
both have their merits, I would say float recovery has really helped my endurance, but I also do a lot of what Jakob does. Like you said I'f say float recoveries help you get fit, jakobs helps you become the best
Id be curious to learn about breathing techniques used by elite runners. It seems like an obvious and important part of aerobic training but what are the best ways to go about it?
Theres no such thing… u breath naturaly… u dont have to pay to much atention but u have to try keep calm and keep training…
@@adrianomiranda5522 How good of a runner are you? Just curious if this advice is coming from someone who IS an elite runner or not.
@@HowlingFantods sub elite runner..nothing special..
@@adrianomiranda5522 What distances do you run and what are your PBs?
Killer
Tried this kind of float training before cause I absolutely agree if you can get it down I think it can be extremely beneficial to help build endurance and aerobic capacity. Any tips for how to like really nail it though? Ive done it in fartlek sessions mainly and would find myself having a hard time keeping the floats the same. I would want my floats around 5:50-6:00 and would have some floats at 5:30’s some floats at 6:30’s sometimes would even out but not as much as I’d like.
the way I did it was 1K on 1K float for 10-20K. the 1K was slightly faster than threshold so it's not a really tough session, which allowed me to focus on the float, but honestly I sometimes check splits every 100m to make sure my floats right
@@Trackstaa_ I think staying on the track like you’ve done makes sense its just interesting dynamic because exactly like you said I would find myself focusing so much more on my floats than my actual “on” reps
@@bryanryder7196 honestly the On reps kind of take care of themselves because weirdly the effort feels exactly appropriate for what you’re going for. It gradually gets harder. The hardest float is for sure after the 800m like that’s just as hard as an on rep
i need to try this
It’s a good one
fast af boiiiiii
Thanks!!
How do you work out your 1500 and 3k pace? I’m pretty clear on my 5 & 10k times, can I work off them?
yeah just work off them and figure out a rule of thumb for the faster places
At least Stateside, this is known as "The Michigan" (Ron Warhurst [Very Nice Track Club] came up with it while he was coaching at the University of Michigan). Such a hard session, but damn it gets you fit 😅
Yeah it’s a little variation on the Michigan does he normally choose to do it with rest ? I’m not entirely sure on the exact specifics but it’s certainly majorly inspired by the Michigan. Very hard but a great workout
@@Trackstaa_ there's a short "rest" (usually less than a minute) to switch between spikes and flats, Warhurst liked to have the fast sections on the track, with the 2k floats on the road, so athletes would switch footware (for obvious reasons)
Your threshold is 3'00"? 😵
So basically the Michigan just that you ran it as a alternating tempo
Sort of yeah
I really appreciate this kind of vlogs but I have a doubt about the lenght of recovery. IMHO it looks it too long, couldn't it better only 1k? thanks in advance for ur comments
because it's float it's not just a recovery it's also getting extra volume in. If it was jog then yes, but 2K float is great, 1K float wouldn't be enough volume
@@Trackstaa_infact *float* pace looks like around ur marathon pace. Thanks
@@stefanocostagli8374 probably a bit slower than marathon pace. I’m not a marathon runner so it’s hard to correlate it right. But I’d be able to run about 2:14 right now without specific training.
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You look like If Justin Bieber is youtuber runner
thank you I think
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This looks like a really good session. I’m 15 and training for cross country. I just did a 18:02 5k. Is that too high of an intensity for me?
I’d do 1000m floats and do 1200,1000,800,400 instead so it’s shorter
@@Trackstaa_ thanks I’ll do it on Friday, and let you know how it goes.
ayo isn’t this just the Michigan workout basically
No stop with a little more float I think
This sounds horrible! Doing it next week
Honestly, one of the hardest sessions I do, but it's a different kind of hard