How to Assemble the Alex drawer assembly from Ikea in easy to follow, step by step instructions. Tools required Philips Screwdriver Hammer or Rubber Mallet
Awesome tutorial. The other tutorial on this drawer that has 300k views has wrong information in it. Ikea has changed the parts and assembly since that video was made. For instance, in the other video they insert the cam screw before instead of after and that really messed me up. This video helped greatly.
I know man. I had no idea until the deed was done. I’m obviously no editing genius. But hey, this video did alright for my channel so I am okay with that lol
My Alex drawer just arrived today and I'm sitting here staring at the unopened box on my office floor, wishing you would come assemble it for me. Lol. Thankfully, your tutorial was thorough and easy to follow. Thanks!
It has been 20 years since I have put together any thing from Ikea. Your instructions are excellent! I am now ready to go. You don't rush or assume we already know and your calming voice all help. Thank you very much!
I have this dresser and it's been assembled for at least 10 years -- but something recently fell behind one of the drawers and I can't get it out, it's just back there jamming a drawer from closing. I couldn't remember how the heck I put it together, but the last minute of your video gave me exactly what I needed. Anyway, thanks for making stuff like this for the rest of us to reference!
Thank you for a fabulous tutorial!!! You did a wonderful job explaining what to do step by step! I put this together in maybe an hour and a half. I’m a senior woman and had no problems at all. In my opinion, watching the video all the way through before starting to put it together is beneficial. THANK YOU!
This was so informational! Im (hopefully) getting two if these tomorrow, and my dad claims to not be the best at putting things together (and neither and I). Im prepared to have to fly solo on this and Ive never built anything in my life, so I went tou good ol RUclips ti figure it out, and this video was so easy to follow and very well put together! Thank you so much for making ny life 100 times easier!!
Huge thanks for this -- mine was slightly different in spots but this was a huge help. I can't ever figure out the stupid directions with these things and you were crystal clear!
Thanks for this. I just put together the koppang dresser yesterday and i still have 2 of these to put together and these looks significantly easier. Just be warned that if you aren't putting together this on carpet to put a blanket down as the boards scratch really easily. I learned the hard way with my dresser.
decided to do the assembling myself because service was too pricey. thank you! you made it look a bit easy and now i'm less intimidated to do this by myself LOL
Awesome video! Helped a lot! My only complaint was I was putting a LAGKAPTEN top on 2 of these to make a vanity table so I ended up with the top at the bottom and the bottoms at the top. Easy fix once I realised my mistake, just swapped the top and bottom panels to allow me to screw the top on 😊
This was the best tutorial on how to assemble these drawers I could find. THANK YOU. It was very helpful. I just finished putting my drawers together. ☺️
Installed my top and bottom panels upside down for the first unit. Was left scratching my head why the drwaers weren't fitting. Lol. Video helped then and gave me confidence enough to go with the manual also. Thanks.
So glad I found your comment, I was having the same problem and I checked to see if my drawers fit if I inserted them upside down and it solved my problem. Just have to changes my panels now!
You absolutely saved me! I ended up watching this rather than reading the paper guidance. Mine had very slight differences but even with that the way you explained it made way more sense. Thank you!
An excellent video, very informative. However when i ran out of cam screws I realised that the equipment had been updated and I had to go back and swap all of the base cams with plastic ones as opposed to the metal ones used for the drawers themselves.
Great tutorial man, only thing I would have added is specifying which board goes on the top and which on the bottom. The paper guide doesn’t mention it either and I ended up doing it in reverse which prevents all the drawers from fitting. Easy enough to remove and put back together the right way though!
This is awesome. When I build my new gaming desk I'm getting two of these and a counter top from lowe's. This is going to be so nice when its done and apparently really easy to assemble!
I absolutely love you 😂😂 I would never have assembled this desk without this video.. The instructions suck ass, and your video was spot on!! So very appreciated. I will definitely be coming to watch you for any assembly I have to do in the future! Your videos are amazing, and make things so easy!! So so so thankful for you.❤
Mines came with different holes in the bottom for like wheels etc and the little legs are m3 sticky legs not click but this tutorial is top notch thanks a lot man! Ikea should hire you to do tutorials for assembling their Merch!
Thank you so much!!!! This is so helpful! I followed another RUclipsr before who said to put the lock screws in first!! Took me so long to figure out why the side pieces weren't fitting. I wish your video came up first lol
Can somebody please please please help me, I’m 13 trying to assemble this by myself and on the first part where you put in the 6 camlocks I think they’re called I watched another guy that put them in first and now my screws won’t go in the hole because I can’t take out the 6 camlocks please please please help
Yeah i know what video that is. Sorry to hear that. You might be able to twist them with a screw driver until the arrow is point towards the outer hole. If not, you might have to pry them out with a pick or knife
@@NotATechShow Yeah I ended up fixing it and I just finished putting the bottom on but haven’t got to putting in camlocks yet, every thing is wobbly and I’m scared.
Bro please help extremely urgently, I don’t even know what I’ve done. I have not put a wood piece on top of the 2 small drawers. I have not done what you said to do to the bottom at the place I thought was the top
Sorry man, it is hard to know without seeing it in front of me. If you have twitter or Instagram or facebook you can DM me a video to see better. @notatechshow for twitter and instagram, Not A Tech Show YT for Facebook
Dude you’re a legend, I literally had trouble because I was overthinking on how to put on the top drawer after having the top on and you answered my question the moment the video started 🙏🙏
Really appreciate this video , worked really great, my Alex drawers are a newer model I think, because the bottom was different, it had cams but other than that, the step by step was great
Hello thanks for the video. I want to put a laptop in the first drawer and connect it to a monitor via usb-c. There isn't any hole in the back of the drawer in order to do so, is it ?
If you, like me, mixed the top with the bottom... it's okay, it's possible to remove the cam lock and change them ! check the video called " How to remove a cam lock (C shaped) from Ikea furniture " and you're good to go
very helpful, thank you! I actually happened to have one of my Alex Drawers defected (Wrong size of wood slab) so I had to call Ikea mid-way through, but I ended up finishing the 2nd drawer with the help of this video.
i flipped the top pieces so the drawers are going to be upide down and i can’t take out the flat things that aren’t screws because the most they unscrew is flat so i can’t grab it to take it out
Oh no! I have had a couple people mention this to me. If you can turn those flat screws a little, you should be able to pull the top\bottom pieces back off and put them on the correct way
Hi I bought a gaming desk but it's little bit small Do i need to return it and take one bigger or buy alex and take for big space and drawers ? What do you think?
Yeah they're criminal for not telling you you need 3 different tools. I'd definitely not have ordered this piece of shit if i knew how fiddly and annoying it was gonna be to assemble
Hey funny enough I just built mine today as well. Did you have diffrent components than in the video? Like I didn't need the screws that use the Allen wrench at all. And the bottom foot pegs use adhesive instead of the screw in. Was this the same for you?
I just got some today and the bottoms has the dowels but it doesn’t have the holes to screw in the bottom on the outside it has the indentions on the inside it came with the tool and screws you showed but no holes to put them in ? Any help
Marcus, if I understand you correctly you are asking about the step where he screwed the bottom in with the Allen key? The 6 screws? Well I just put one together last week and it’s slightly different then his instructions. IKEA made a new revision to Alex in April so yours is probably different just like the one I built on Sunday. Anyway those Allen screws are not used on the Alex itself, but used to attach it to a tabletop when using as a desk leg. That’s why step 6 in ikea instructions tell you to use the bottom as the top if using for a desk. So don’t worry. Only dowels, cams, and plastic screws for the install.
@@NotATechShow Yeah i have the alex setup next to me im going bottom to top installing the drawers i have one of the 3 larger drawers at the bottom, the instructions say the lrger 3 go on the bottom i cannot put the next large drawer on because the metal slide is lower than the insert on the drawer
What was the point of screwing the drawers from the inside? I have this in my dorm and the tracks are now detached from the drawers. Is this because I didn't do it from the inside?
Hello nice work . Thanks for sharing . My husband installed l for me . Guys I have this drawers for my make up and home office . It’s really nice and good cabinet size girls i highly recommend this to you , trust me . I will post mine in my Community so you can see the pictures . I love love it .
I literally just messed up my drawer, I guess I’ll have to get a new one since the one I’m making is terrible compared to yours I’ll just have to get a different desk I suppose
Awesome tutorial. The other tutorial on this drawer that has 300k views has wrong information in it. Ikea has changed the parts and assembly since that video was made. For instance, in the other video they insert the cam screw before instead of after and that really messed me up. This video helped greatly.
Thank you!!! I saw that one as well after I uploaded this video. Not sure why you would want to insert the cam first, lol.
@@NotATechShow well THAT is not embarrassing at all. Damn upside down was the ticket. Ugh. Lol. Ty!!
Haha no worries. It happens to the best of us! Thanks for watching !
@@NotATechShow VOLUME SUXXXXXXXXXX
I know man. I had no idea until the deed was done. I’m obviously no editing genius. But hey, this video did alright for my channel so I am okay with that lol
My Alex drawer just arrived today and I'm sitting here staring at the unopened box on my office floor, wishing you would come assemble it for me. Lol. Thankfully, your tutorial was thorough and easy to follow. Thanks!
It has been 20 years since I have put together any thing from Ikea. Your instructions are excellent! I am now ready to go. You don't rush or assume we already know and your calming voice all help. Thank you very much!
Thank you for watching! Don't hesitate to reach out if you have questions. You can comment or send me a message on twitter or Instagram @notatechshow
I have this dresser and it's been assembled for at least 10 years -- but something recently fell behind one of the drawers and I can't get it out, it's just back there jamming a drawer from closing. I couldn't remember how the heck I put it together, but the last minute of your video gave me exactly what I needed. Anyway, thanks for making stuff like this for the rest of us to reference!
Thank you for a fabulous tutorial!!! You did a wonderful job explaining what to do step by step! I put this together in maybe an hour and a half. I’m a senior woman and had no problems at all. In my opinion, watching the video all the way through before starting to put it together is beneficial. THANK YOU!
This was so informational! Im (hopefully) getting two if these tomorrow, and my dad claims to not be the best at putting things together (and neither and I). Im prepared to have to fly solo on this and Ive never built anything in my life, so I went tou good ol RUclips ti figure it out, and this video was so easy to follow and very well put together! Thank you so much for making ny life 100 times easier!!
You are very welcome! I’m am so glad I could help! I am pinning this comment to the top on this video :)
Huge thanks for this -- mine was slightly different in spots but this was a huge help. I can't ever figure out the stupid directions with these things and you were crystal clear!
No problem! Thank you for watching! Yeah i think they changed a few things on this years model so its a little different.
@@NotATechShow Still super close and helpful. Again, great work.
Thanks for this. I just put together the koppang dresser yesterday and i still have 2 of these to put together and these looks significantly easier.
Just be warned that if you aren't putting together this on carpet to put a blanket down as the boards scratch really easily. I learned the hard way with my dresser.
Two years later and this has helped me so much when I tell you I was so confused at first until I saw this u helped a lot thanks!
decided to do the assembling myself because service was too pricey. thank you! you made it look a bit easy and now i'm less intimidated to do this by myself LOL
You are welcome! Thank you for watching 😊
i just collected this yesterday, just finished work and i’m about to build this whilst watching your video, can’t wait😇
thank you! ive never build anything by myself so i feel much more confident now.
you are very welcome! thank you for stopping by and watching
Awesome video! Helped a lot! My only complaint was I was putting a LAGKAPTEN top on 2 of these to make a vanity table so I ended up with the top at the bottom and the bottoms at the top. Easy fix once I realised my mistake, just swapped the top and bottom panels to allow me to screw the top on 😊
This was the best tutorial on how to assemble these drawers I could find. THANK YOU. It was very helpful. I just finished putting my drawers together. ☺️
Getting two of these drawer units today, wanted to watch a video beforehand to have an idea of what to expect. Thank you for all the great info!
I was happy to see that I’m not the only one with a wooden dowel left over.
Thanks for your help.
Installed my top and bottom panels upside down for the first unit. Was left scratching my head why the drwaers weren't fitting. Lol. Video helped then and gave me confidence enough to go with the manual also. Thanks.
So glad I found your comment, I was having the same problem and I checked to see if my drawers fit if I inserted them upside down and it solved my problem. Just have to changes my panels now!
Informative and to the point. The gold standard of assembly videos.
You absolutely saved me! I ended up watching this rather than reading the paper guidance. Mine had very slight differences but even with that the way you explained it made way more sense. Thank you!
awesome! thank you for watching! yeah, i think they changed some things on the new models
Very easy and simple to follow. Was a little stuck with the drawers at the end but this video cleared it all up
Thank you for watching! Im glad i could help
😊fabulous work! See you again soon. Kudos for your dedication to help put together this project. Clearly communicated!!!
An excellent video, very informative. However when i ran out of cam screws I realised that the equipment had been updated and I had to go back and swap all of the base cams with plastic ones as opposed to the metal ones used for the drawers themselves.
Thanks!
You are very welcome benjamin! And thank you for watching and supporting! Have a wonderful day
omg this made it so easy to assemble the drawers i was completely lost with the instructions packet
I am glad I could help! Thank you for watching!
Спасибо бро! Попался брак, с вашим руководством упаковал всё как было😁
Great tutorial man, only thing I would have added is specifying which board goes on the top and which on the bottom. The paper guide doesn’t mention it either and I ended up doing it in reverse which prevents all the drawers from fitting. Easy enough to remove and put back together the right way though!
Slightly different newer models but this helped me so much. Thank you for this very easy guide to assembly!
This is awesome. When I build my new gaming desk I'm getting two of these and a counter top from lowe's. This is going to be so nice when its done and apparently really easy to assemble!
Nice! I would love to see it when it's done. I'm on Twitter and Instagram @notatechshow 🙂
I absolutely love you 😂😂 I would never have assembled this desk without this video.. The instructions suck ass, and your video was spot on!! So very appreciated. I will definitely be coming to watch you for any assembly I have to do in the future! Your videos are amazing, and make things so easy!! So so so thankful for you.❤
Thank you so much for this video. It was so easy to follow and I was able to build my vanity all by myself with your help :)
awesome! thank you for watching!
That tutorial was so easy to follow and straight to the point thank you!!
Mines came with different holes in the bottom for like wheels etc and the little legs are m3 sticky legs not click but this tutorial is top notch thanks a lot man! Ikea should hire you to do tutorials for assembling their Merch!
Thanks for saving me from stress and saving a lot of time. God bless you and your family ❤️
Thank you so much!!!! This is so helpful! I followed another RUclipsr before who said to put the lock screws in first!! Took me so long to figure out why the side pieces weren't fitting. I wish your video came up first lol
Thank you, it helped me a lot. Your voice sounds nice, you should be a voice over for many vids. Thanks
Haha thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
I was missing the last screw step thank you thank you!!
Omg I love you for making this look so easy! I’ve been putting it off for so long but I can finally assemble something all by myself for a change! 😭
Technically you didn’t because you watched a video
@@phillipe4742 omg what a jerk!!!!!
@@phillipe4742 That’s like saying you didn’t because you followed the instructions. Which yes, this video is the instructions but in video form.
@@phillipe4742 pepega brain
Thanks for posting this, you've made the best tutorial by far!
Thank you so much!
Thank You Sir !
You make my life much Easier 👍👍
Good tutorial 👍
Thank you!!!
How sturdy is the bottom of the drawers?
Can you put a few books in the drawers without the bottom caving in?
Thank you this would’ve taken me hours to figure out
No problem! Thank you for watching!
The most helpful video on the internet!
Thanks for this video. I had to wait a while to do mine ande had lost the instructions . this made it super easy to understand. Thanks again
Thank you for watching! I'm glad i could help
Can somebody please please please help me, I’m 13 trying to assemble this by myself and on the first part where you put in the 6 camlocks I think they’re called I watched another guy that put them in first and now my screws won’t go in the hole because I can’t take out the 6 camlocks please please please help
Yeah i know what video that is. Sorry to hear that. You might be able to twist them with a screw driver until the arrow is point towards the outer hole. If not, you might have to pry them out with a pick or knife
@@NotATechShow Yeah I ended up fixing it and I just finished putting the bottom on but haven’t got to putting in camlocks yet, every thing is wobbly and I’m scared.
um, I thought I was putting on the bottom not the top.. what should I do? I the small drawers were where I was doing the top…
Bro please help extremely urgently, I don’t even know what I’ve done. I have not put a wood piece on top of the 2 small drawers. I have not done what you said to do to the bottom at the place I thought was the top
Sorry man, it is hard to know without seeing it in front of me. If you have twitter or Instagram or facebook you can DM me a video to see better. @notatechshow for twitter and instagram, Not A Tech Show YT for Facebook
Thank you this made it so easy
Awesome! Thank you for watching!
Amazing man. You made my life easy as I was struggling
Dude you’re a legend, I literally had trouble because I was overthinking on how to put on the top drawer after having the top on and you answered my question the moment the video started 🙏🙏
Apparently Ikea changes the build once every 6 months lol thank you for your help tho!
very helpful and nicely filmed video. Thanks!
Really appreciate this video , worked really great, my Alex drawers are a newer model I think, because the bottom was different, it had cams but other than that, the step by step was great
Awesome! Thanks for watching and the feedback! This one was fun to film 😀
Hello thanks for the video. I want to put a laptop in the first drawer and connect it to a monitor via usb-c. There isn't any hole in the back of the drawer in order to do so, is it ?
Is it possible please to show the assembly of the lower drawers, thanks for a an easy to listen to commentary style.
Cams are different now, and which is considered the top? The manual shows swap the top and bottom if using under a desk
If you, like me, mixed the top with the bottom... it's okay, it's possible to remove the cam lock and change them ! check the video called " How to remove a cam lock (C shaped) from Ikea furniture " and you're good to go
Putting my together, appreciate the video. Big help 😁🤙🏽
no problem! thanks for watching!
this is the last time i buy something from ikea lol this many pieces for some drawers?
lol! yeah, this one was chaos filming and editing. im with you there!
Helped me so much!! Thank you!!
My alex drawers are arriving today! Cant wait to build them ill let you know how it goes. 😊
thats awesome! good luck! feel free to drop a comment if you need help
very helpful, thank you! I actually happened to have one of my Alex Drawers defected (Wrong size of wood slab) so I had to call Ikea mid-way through, but I ended up finishing the 2nd drawer with the help of this video.
I have the same issue with the smallest drawer. The base wood panel for the drawer is a tiny bit too long.
i flipped the top pieces so the drawers are going to be upide down and i can’t take out the flat things that aren’t screws because the most they unscrew is flat so i can’t grab it to take it out
Oh no! I have had a couple people mention this to me. If you can turn those flat screws a little, you should be able to pull the top\bottom pieces back off and put them on the correct way
Help I put the wrong size cam in for the 3:08 part of the video how do I take it off 😢
Best tutorial of these! Thank you!!! ❤
Hi
I bought a gaming desk but it's little bit small
Do i need to return it and take one bigger or buy alex and take for big space and drawers ?
What do you think?
I got these second hand with no screws keeping the drawer on the rails. Could you provide the screw specifications so I can buy some? Cheers
Thank you so much! This video was so helpful I was able to build it all by myself !
Thank you for watching! I’m always happy to help!
This tutorial is exceptional. Easy to follow. Thank you!
thank you!
nice vid
i plan to put my pc desktop on it, will it support the heavy weight?
Great video 👍
Nobody told me this thing was a 27kg behemoth that needed 10000 screws.
Yeah they're criminal for not telling you you need 3 different tools. I'd definitely not have ordered this piece of shit if i knew how fiddly and annoying it was gonna be to assemble
Omg I saw this video before assembling today
It was SUPER HELPFUL
Thank you so much! ❤️❤️❤️
you are very welcome! thank you for watching! ❤️
Hey funny enough I just built mine today as well. Did you have diffrent components than in the video? Like I didn't need the screws that use the Allen wrench at all. And the bottom foot pegs use adhesive instead of the screw in. Was this the same for you?
What a solid walkthrough!
my bottom two drawers dont fit together in the cabinet like at all what do i do
You are an absolute god.
Thanks, lol.
I just got some today and the bottoms has the dowels but it doesn’t have the holes to screw in the bottom on the outside it has the indentions on the inside it came with the tool and screws you showed but no holes to put them in ? Any help
Marcus, if I understand you correctly you are asking about the step where he screwed the bottom in with the Allen key? The 6 screws? Well I just put one together last week and it’s slightly different then his instructions. IKEA made a new revision to Alex in April so yours is probably different just like the one I built on Sunday. Anyway those Allen screws are not used on the Alex itself, but used to attach it to a tabletop when using as a desk leg. That’s why step 6 in ikea instructions tell you to use the bottom as the top if using for a desk. So don’t worry. Only dowels, cams, and plastic screws for the install.
Are your drawers loud when opening and closing? I expected them to be easier to close and open and less loud. Or is this the nature of the piece?
They aren’t too bad. You could spray a little WD40 or grease on the slides and it might make it a lot better and smooth
@@NotATechShow yep, good idea. I just did. It helped a bit. I'll just have to get use to the louder sliding noise. Thanks!
Thanks you so much for this, but why am I all out of wooden dows and still have to do 3 more drawers? Do you think I’ll be fine not using them?
same issue and if you haven’t already figured it out no you won’t be fine
Because for the 3 big drawers you don’t use the wooden ones
When adding the top panel make sure you place it near the drawer sliders for the smaller drawers.
Discovered this after building them LOL 😂 All good, just swapped them around but had to remove the little feet I’d put on the wrong end 😂
Thank you so much for making this! Perfectly done and easy to understand!
One of my cams won't go to the hole fully and I literally don't know what to do 😭 it's the last one as well
Thank you so much I just got the Alex drawer and you made the assembly so easy
You are very welcome! Thank you for watching
One of my locks doesn’t go through. Would that be a problem?
like one of the cam locks?
@@NotATechShow yes
@@NotATechShow to secure the very top of the drawer. It’s for the middle one
Awesome video I’m about to begin my assembly! About how long did this take you?
good luck! with filming, it took me about an hour. you should be able to tackle this in about 30 minutes or so
awesome I’ve already started and with your help it’s been smooth so far thank you!! 😊😊😊😊
Mission completed! Thanks again for the video!
I put the funking drawer screws on the outside.
Oh no! I almost did the same thing when i was recording this. Hope you got it sorted :)
@@NotATechShow i just built two sets for my desk. Im fixing that tomorrow lol
this guy is a legend
i hope im that guy, haha! thanks Alez
Is this heavy? Also is the one on castors the same? Thanks!
i put one of the largest drawers at the bottom and now i dont have room to put the rest of the 2 large draws idk if mine is defective or what
they are supposed to go in a specific place. it throws off the rest of the unit alignment
lol fastest reply ever right? i literally had my comment section pulled up
@@NotATechShow Yeah i have the alex setup next to me im going bottom to top installing the drawers i have one of the 3 larger drawers at the bottom, the instructions say the lrger 3 go on the bottom i cannot put the next large drawer on because the metal slide is lower than the insert on the drawer
@@samaustin3785 no joke, you might have it upside down. That has come up before in my comments
Very great tutorial!
This video helped so much, thank you.
you are very welcome! im glad i could help!
3:47 the top of my Alex drawers doesn't line up with the holes. What can I do
Yeah I assembled it in the wrong spot
Glad you got it figured out. I have found that this problem happens a lot in my comments
They changed up the design
What was the point of screwing the drawers from the inside? I have this in my dorm and the tracks are now detached from the drawers. Is this because I didn't do it from the inside?
yeah probably. the head of the screw might have been hitting on the slide track
I ve been following but my drawer holes are kind of different from yours, maybe depends on the country
that could be. Also, they may have changed up the design in the last year too.
This was very helpful
Awesome! Thank you for watching
Messed up and installed the back part of the drawer backwards but can't take out the white screws...
oh no! those push pins are really strong. you might be able to use some needle nose pliers and a flat screwdriver to pry them out.
@@NotATechShow Damaged the drawers but Ikea are sending me spare parts.
@@NotATechShow Great tutorial though, wouldn't have been able to follow Ikea's instructions by myself. Thank you!
Are the cams supposed to be kinda loose in the holes?
yes, once you sinch them down, they should tighten up. not too tight though, just enough to hold them together
Hello nice work . Thanks for sharing . My husband installed l for me .
Guys I have this drawers for my make up and home office . It’s really nice and good cabinet size girls i highly recommend this to you , trust me . I will post mine in my Community so you can see the pictures . I love love it .
Thanks for watching!
Can i put desk board on to of this drawer?
And if i can, how?
❤this video was verry helpfull😁
Hey I'm trying to install the drawers and I'm not able to fit all 5 drawers on the unit. Its leaving space between first and second drawer from top.
Check to make sure it’s not upside down. I have heard this a couple times in my comments.
I literally just messed up my drawer, I guess I’ll have to get a new one since the one I’m making is terrible compared to yours I’ll just have to get a different desk I suppose