Please read the description before commenting any claims. Cat machine does in fact has more than 6 million hp here, due to double talent orb and resist combos. Correction: 5:15 Sakura has 2,275,580 max hp, I forgot the metal defense orb I attached and her weaken ability.
I'd argue Convoys is a better metal tanker than Sakura. Sakura has a lot of effective hp, but that alone doesnt make her a good tanker. She's more of a metal support unit who can just take a lot of damage from them, whereas convoys is a true tanker. No one is using sakura as a tanker, and what is present in the video is more of her crowd control doing the work.
@@Euan_Mafirst time getting her, I thought she was useless because people said the single attack held her back, but after some time using her, she's extremely good, she carries me through red stages, especially realm of carnage (Edit: also, did you use weaken or resistance combos for her? I'm just curious)
@@Euan_Ma ohhhh, I thought weaken combos increases the effect of the weaken like from 50% to 80% kinda thing, also.. how did you get 7.6 mil hp?? I can't calculate that
@@MarcosAlvarenga-d8z How? Both at level 60, Mk3 has 1,728,000 HP at 190 range. Lumina on the other hand has 1,792,000 HP at 375 range without accounting for her weaken, in which she has effectively double the HP. While Mk3 does have higher DPS, his long attack animation and significantly lower HP give Lumina the win against aliens.
I'd argue that Gigapult is the better Anti-Relic tank than Ruri, while Ruri has dodge to also increase her survivability, Gigapult has AOE, a very BIG one at that.
Idk, mekako has a ton of range for a tanker, and more importantly way less effective health so every hit she doesn’t dodge will hurt a lot more than it would hurt the other two. Plus way longer cooldown and higher cost. Should be interesting to see though maybe I’m wrong.
@@turt1100 I feel like the 1/2 dodge would equal out the hp tbh. And due to how dodge works it'd only become better the higher the enemy dps goes. Though I do agree her cost/cooldown are way heavier, she's definitely not to be underestimated anymore.
@@Dsquarius_Green_Jr. Platinum capsule rolls move along with your regular rare capsule rolls so you can manipulate that to get any uber you want from plat tickets
true form air unit rei, is also a good tanker and decent nuker for floating, I’d say probably top ten, before i couldn’t beat itf chapter 2 but with it I destroyed the boss, only having it die around once.
My first Uber being the best metal tanker ( also funny how the universe wants me to not have problems with metal first Uber? Sakura first legend? The anti metal one with a very long name that u don’t feel like typing
I actually hoped to see how long the tanker can survive a stage against their specific trait ._. I think it fit better than just seeing the stage winning. I mean hoping to see something like in black tanker... not something like the red and floating tanker
@Euan_Ma I still don't see your logic. A lvl 30 Cat Machine has 918,000 hp against Aliens(including Talents and Treasures). Luminalia at the same level with Treasures has 952,000 hp. That doesn't seem like much more health, but Luminalia has guaranteed 50% Weaken with 100% uptime. Her effective hp becomes 1,904,000 against Aliens. She is also faster, with 30 speed compared to Cat Machine's 15(25 even with Talents). Her shorter foreswing also means she won't lag behind. And Cat Machine doesn't even have Warp Immune, so his usefulness is dimished even more. I guess she costs 75 cents more, her recharge is 10 seconds longer, and she doesn't have Cat Machine's 50% chance 4 second freeze, but she still provides far more value than Cat Machine. Even if you somehow got 70 dupes of Cat Machine and maxed him out at lvl 60 +70, Luminalia still beats him at her max level (level 50 +9) with weaken, having 3.53 billion hp over his 2.34 billion.
@@fatricecat yeh, luminalia is much easier to invest since all u need are xp and legend catseyes. She's fast enough to go to the front lines and will always stay long enough for another to be on CD. Plus weaken benefits your entire army's hp as well so luminalia is quite good
@@fatricecat Cat machine benefits significantly more from talent orbs and combos, which makes him have higher hp, this video is about best tankers, so the amount of investment required doesn't affect the final result. Also where exactly did you get billions of hp from
Blud use mygamatoto for stats Lumina has less hp over all but what you have to keep in mind is Lumina has exsteamly tough and cat machine only has resistant giveing lumina more hp also Lumina has weaken which is permanent as long as they are in Lumina’s range. So yes Lumina is better unless you are dealing with waves in which cat machine has wave blocker.
It feels quite wrong when you see sir metal seals 112k hp right after and before bosses with millions of hp yet him still being very hard and annoying to counter.
Those "bosses"are not metal Any metal with more than 10-20k starts being annoying specifically because most critters are not made to deal tons of damage (ofc there are exptions like luffalan)
Why cat machine is betten than luminalia? He has no warp immunity and barrier break only when ultra talented, when luminali has warp immunity + weaken that help other cats stay alive. She is also cheaper, has way shorter attack animation and bigger range. So why ?
Im surprised that ruri was this op, though i thought about it again and realizes that theres barely any other uber that could do the same as her abilities and kit (Although to fully utilize her, its incredible taxing with the amount of np and cat eyes, and her SINGLE ATTACK, WHY PONOS)
I think this video is just which Uber tanker can last the longest against their trait not the most suitable one to fight against their trait. If it were then Gravi would have gotten the Alien and Relic slots for example.
Nope, Gravi sucks compared to Ruri. Ruri is already unstoppable in hp, however she also has weaken as support, and her DPS is high. Even though she has single target, since enemies can't move forward, any cc attacker would annihilate the stage.
I clicked on this video just because I saw dark garu in the thumbnail because I am on a dark garu high rn and kinda think hes cracked lol. And id argue his role is more of an attacker than a tanker. His high hp and resist are nice but arent nearly as good as his crazy damage output.
I feel like juvens should not be the one crowned for best angel tanker it’s rng a tanker should be very reliable that’s why you don’t like metal enemies they take rng to beat a tanker should be a good consistent wall that has some power behind it like IDK ascendant dioramos
Juvens's dodge ability is extremely consistent considering his health pool and recharge, in fact it is almost impossible for him to not dodge during his lifespan. His dodge is pretty much guaranteed due to the number of hits he receives.
Most tankers are in fact mid ranged, typically you don't want takers on the frontline, that's the roll of meatshields. Tankers are second line of defense for your rangers.
@@GwaGwa-xr1flNo he is not, his cd doesn't affect anything here, Ruri is just better due to stupid hp, and more importantly, dodge ability. Against her target trait, she is unstoppable, unlike roe, who doesn't work in all red stages.
Is kyosaka not the best metal tank? I haven’t done the maths so please correct me if I’m wrong but my level 33 kyosaka lasted for ages against the metal cyclone. If I’m wrong please tell me how much health she has
Idk abt the hp numbers, but kyosaka is not a tanker, tankers sit on the frontlines and sit there, kyosaka has 7kb and is not meant to take hits like that.
I understand that cat machine mk3 have way more hp than lumina... but how can you call him the best tanker when he cant f.cking tank half of his trait cause of warp!!! This is too big difference... lumina also has way more efficient attack that actually manage to debuff... he cant hit a single enemy!!! And for the last... lumina cause of his range can still be used on mixed stage using meatshield... he can stop any alien backliner while she still alive... and alien are one of the trait with most backliners... cat machine get roasted by any other enemy and die before you can get the second one...
@@randybutternubs7820 True but i think this video is more about raw hp. Also i doubt cat machine actually has 6.7m ehp i don’t know where he got that from
Please read the description before commenting any claims. Cat machine does in fact has more than 6 million hp here, due to double talent orb and resist combos.
Correction:
5:15 Sakura has 2,275,580 max hp, I forgot the metal defense orb I attached and her weaken ability.
Crazy how that gives her 2 times her health
@@m0nk3_k1ngweaken alone does that
@@nevverre3500 the weaken uptime is not permanent so it doesn't here.
I really like how you did your research instead of just like guessing it’s something else
I'd argue Convoys is a better metal tanker than Sakura. Sakura has a lot of effective hp, but that alone doesnt make her a good tanker. She's more of a metal support unit who can just take a lot of damage from them, whereas convoys is a true tanker. No one is using sakura as a tanker, and what is present in the video is more of her crowd control doing the work.
Always loved the”front facing apocalypse” thumbnail kind of thing
Been a ruri believer since i got her glad to see she is being recognised
Also where the hell is gravolodon
@@Personwhoexists0701Gravolodon is not the best alien tanker
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@@Personwhoexists0701 he's only like a half tank, base hp too low
@@Euan_Ma :(
Best generalist tank according to this video: Mola talents.
nah, it's hades
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"Front facing Garu isnt real. He cant hurt you"
Front facing Garu:
Pitbull named cupcake:
@@Euan_Ma 🤣
Oh my fucking god: the music, the style, this shit is identical to the type of videos chillola used to make back in 2017, and i fucking love it
I loved watching those videos back in 4th grade
And tbh I also like them now
This video gives me old chillhola vibes
roe has been done so dirty
unfortunately, roe is not a uber or legend (still best red meatshield though)
@@Euan_MaProbably means Ruri I think
@@Euan_Ma Courier is the best red meatshield.
Why tank, when you can kill?
@@sawe6051his health isnt even that high bro
@@ErtyouiTrewi yes his health isnnt that high but the dmg stat say otherwise
Catapult has barely 7m+ to relic
me scrolling to relic
RURI???☠
dodge op
@@Euan_Mafirst time getting her, I thought she was useless because people said the single attack held her back, but after some time using her, she's extremely good, she carries me through red stages, especially realm of carnage
(Edit: also, did you use weaken or resistance combos for her? I'm just curious)
@@bosco9831 Her weaken is already full uptime (if they land), so I used two resistant m combos, which combine to give to 0.6x boost
@@Euan_Ma ohhhh, I thought weaken combos increases the effect of the weaken like from 50% to 80% kinda thing, also.. how did you get 7.6 mil hp?? I can't calculate that
@@bosco9831 formula from description
Standing here i realize ahh cats
Front facing Garu scares me
I expected Gravolodon to be a superior alien tanker compared to Cat Machine Mk3 due to his passive warp immunity and arguably superior offense
Meanwhile lumina:
@@ezikiel007 Also outclassed by Cat Machine Mk3
@@MarcosAlvarenga-d8z How? Both at level 60, Mk3 has 1,728,000 HP at 190 range. Lumina on the other hand has 1,792,000 HP at 375 range without accounting for her weaken, in which she has effectively double the HP. While Mk3 does have higher DPS, his long attack animation and significantly lower HP give Lumina the win against aliens.
@@ezikiel007talents
@@ezikiel007 It's his opnion, not ours (Answered it after barely reading your reply)
I'd argue that Gigapult is the better Anti-Relic tank than Ruri, while Ruri has dodge to also increase her survivability, Gigapult has AOE, a very BIG one at that.
and has backliner weaken as well. Ruri is better against solo Relics.
Yes, that is true on mixed stages, but not on pure relic stages, as Ruri simply can't die.
i didn't know you were premiering it rn, i was watching your other vids and then *poof* priemere
The funny thing is that Mekako will outclass both Juvens and Cat machine next update due to 50% dodge and weaken.
Idk, mekako has a ton of range for a tanker, and more importantly way less effective health so every hit she doesn’t dodge will hurt a lot more than it would hurt the other two. Plus way longer cooldown and higher cost. Should be interesting to see though maybe I’m wrong.
@@turt1100 I feel like the 1/2 dodge would equal out the hp tbh.
And due to how dodge works it'd only become better the higher the enemy dps goes.
Though I do agree her cost/cooldown are way heavier, she's definitely not to be underestimated anymore.
Uhh, yeah, I'm sorry but like 20 times less hp ain't gonna cut it
Chillhola ahh video and music choice
Tanking a fucking CYCLONE is such a flex 😭😭😭
and its the strongest one
@@darioselvi8872 480k dps 💀💀💀
NGL juvens suprised me with how fast he took down the cyclone ( i mean tht as in i thought it would take like 5+ minutes to take it down fr)
Ruri just soloing her bosses lmao
Ruri trying to not have near unlimited hp:
@@Euan_Ma with Dodge too lmao
so happy i was there in the premiere :)
we dont need tankers when there is nothing to tank with dasli+phono
Ah yes, very accesseble units that everyone has (not)
@@Euan_Mareal, i definitely have those (i am post soractes and my only fest exclusive is sgao, seed tracking doesnt help with my atrotious seeds)
same for me but I still love tanks(btw i love your pfp i have a sticker of that shark)
@@Dsquarius_Green_Jr. Platinum capsule rolls move along with your regular rare capsule rolls so you can manipulate that to get any uber you want from plat tickets
"Yeah bro just use these impossible to get ubers with no seed tracking"
Broski didn't included the best if the best tanker ever, Sardine 😞
I’ve been saying ruri was op for ages
true form air unit rei, is also a good tanker and decent nuker for floating, I’d say probably top ten, before i couldn’t beat itf chapter 2 but with it I destroyed the boss, only having it die around once.
Where is my goat Myrcia 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
She's trash lol😂
So good to see my 1st uber being the best alien tanker
Lumina…
@@randybutternubs7820exactly
My first Uber being the best metal tanker ( also funny how the universe wants me to not have problems with metal first Uber? Sakura first legend? The anti metal one with a very long name that u don’t feel like typing
@@wizardmidnightuploads-ud4ox my 1st or 2nd uber was sakura too i have her true form now
I actually hoped to see how long the tanker can survive a stage against their specific trait ._. I think it fit better than just seeing the stage winning. I mean hoping to see something like in black tanker... not something like the red and floating tanker
I have a question. Why do you put Cat Machine above Lumina in terms of Alien tanking?
Cat machine has way more hp, and he freezes, and he has a really fast cooldown.
Too bad cat machine aint warp immune, cant properly tank against starred aliens with warp.
@Euan_Ma I still don't see your logic. A lvl 30 Cat Machine has 918,000 hp against Aliens(including Talents and Treasures). Luminalia at the same level with Treasures has 952,000 hp. That doesn't seem like much more health, but Luminalia has guaranteed 50% Weaken with 100% uptime. Her effective hp becomes 1,904,000 against Aliens. She is also faster, with 30 speed compared to Cat Machine's 15(25 even with Talents). Her shorter foreswing also means she won't lag behind. And Cat Machine doesn't even have Warp Immune, so his usefulness is dimished even more. I guess she costs 75 cents more, her recharge is 10 seconds longer, and she doesn't have Cat Machine's 50% chance 4 second freeze, but she still provides far more value than Cat Machine. Even if you somehow got 70 dupes of Cat Machine and maxed him out at lvl 60 +70, Luminalia still beats him at her max level (level 50 +9) with weaken, having 3.53 billion hp over his 2.34 billion.
@@fatricecat yeh, luminalia is much easier to invest since all u need are xp and legend catseyes. She's fast enough to go to the front lines and will always stay long enough for another to be on CD. Plus weaken benefits your entire army's hp as well so luminalia is quite good
@@fatricecat Cat machine benefits significantly more from talent orbs and combos, which makes him have higher hp, this video is about best tankers, so the amount of investment required doesn't affect the final result.
Also where exactly did you get billions of hp from
i really hoped that Pandora was the zombie tanker but oh well i still really like gigapult
Luminalia is the best alien tank!
Nope cat machine better look up stats
@@Ilikecats-xd4wd Luminalia outclasses.
@@gabbycal look up the stats
@@Ilikecats-xd4wd I did, much weaker.
@@Ilikecats-xd4wd luminalia stats are better, she has a 5x health against aliens
Bro forgot about Luminalia
@@ValTheGamer it only has around 2 million hp but cat machine has almost 7 million
Blud use mygamatoto for stats Lumina has less hp over all but what you have to keep in mind is Lumina has exsteamly tough and cat machine only has resistant giveing lumina more hp also Lumina has weaken which is permanent as long as they are in Lumina’s range. So yes Lumina is better unless you are dealing with waves in which cat machine has wave blocker.
Bro, he alsoforgot abou Gravolodon for relic
@@WH0MQN2m is including the tough ability
@@WH0MQNno, cat machine has way more hp against aliens
It feels quite wrong when you see sir metal seals 112k hp right after and before bosses with millions of hp yet him still being very hard and annoying to counter.
Those "bosses"are not metal
Any metal with more than 10-20k starts being annoying specifically because most critters are not made to deal tons of damage (ofc there are exptions like luffalan)
Front Facing Dark Garu isn’t real and can’t hurt you: Front Facing Dark Garu
Why cat machine is betten than luminalia? He has no warp immunity and barrier break only when ultra talented, when luminali has warp immunity + weaken that help other cats stay alive. She is also cheaper, has way shorter attack animation and bigger range. So why ?
I’m surprised Kai and Gravi isn’t on the list
Im surprised that ruri was this op, though i thought about it again and realizes that theres barely any other uber that could do the same as her abilities and kit
(Although to fully utilize her, its incredible taxing with the amount of np and cat eyes, and her SINGLE ATTACK, WHY PONOS)
dam, bro got some fire music 😍
crash fever goes hard
I think this video is just which Uber tanker can last the longest against their trait not the most suitable one to fight against their trait. If it were then Gravi would have gotten the Alien and Relic slots for example.
Nope, Gravi sucks compared to Ruri. Ruri is already unstoppable in hp, however she also has weaken as support, and her DPS is high. Even though she has single target, since enemies can't move forward, any cc attacker would annihilate the stage.
So Dark Garu is the best tank for the Traitless? I'm glad, it's my first character from the epicfest that I got for defeating Jagando (enemy).
He has literally no competition
he's the only tanker for traitless
still outshine by most of anti traitless lol
@@Euan_MaDogemaru:
never cook again with front facing dark garu
the fact a cat can have boss hp is fking crazy
Subbing for sure
Wouldn’t babel’s max hp be higher because of colossus slayer?
This is against his trait of floating. Only megamooth has floating and colossus
Me when i saw theese units: we don't need meet shealds
front facing garu is scary
i’m assuming you’re including orb in your calculations, so is that why relic hp for merqueen was lower than red hp?
Yes
I somehow managed to get 4 of the best tankers in this game and Might aegis Garu
lol, an alien tank without warp immunity
9:26 i would argue that the legend rare elemental pixy is the best alien tank. She may not have as much hp but she can weaken aliens.
At level 50 she has an effective 2.6 million hp vs aliens
@@AdoggerGamer but she also weakens aliens( further increasing here hp), breaks barriers and is immune to warp.
@@judesmith7184 I’m already including her weaken.
What about effective HP including weaken?
There's a chance that keiji could be better because his damage is pretty high (with strengthen)
Bro this is about tankers...
@@Euan_Ma he still a good tanker
@@NaLian605 He's not a better tanker
Is it me or is ruri the uber i thought was decent is the best tanker for red and relic
Ruri is god
for all traits is hades 🔥
Now I know Dark Garu is not useless😮
Am I stupid for not upgrading Mer-queen ruri not even to second form
Can king gamereon be in Angel
Man, where's manic/crazed/normal/brainwashed tank cat here?? I can't find him:-(
By that logic Power Saw Cat should be here too
I clicked on this video just because I saw dark garu in the thumbnail because I am on a dark garu high rn and kinda think hes cracked lol. And id argue his role is more of an attacker than a tanker. His high hp and resist are nice but arent nearly as good as his crazy damage output.
Well I ain't choosing dogumaru, so I have to go with dgaru
Tanking is cool
What happened to my man garu's immunities
Does lumina not count as a tanker?
Lumina has 3m effective hp at lvl 50 while cat machine has almost 7m
I feel like juvens should not be the one crowned for best angel tanker it’s rng a tanker should be very reliable that’s why you don’t like metal enemies they take rng to beat a tanker should be a good consistent wall that has some power behind it like IDK ascendant dioramos
Juvens's dodge ability is extremely consistent considering his health pool and recharge, in fact it is almost impossible for him to not dodge during his lifespan. His dodge is pretty much guaranteed due to the number of hits he receives.
wait, cat machine is tankier against aliens than lumina?
@@Random_K3v Yeah
Alien is obv lumina
hahahaha no
I thought alien would be luminalia but idc anyway
I got hades, is that a good tanker?
Bruh how are they tanker with a >350 range, thats a mid-range unit that can't tank for any close range units.
Most tankers are in fact mid ranged, typically you don't want takers on the frontline, that's the roll of meatshields. Tankers are second line of defense for your rangers.
what about lumina for alien???
why is juvens higher then king gamereon again?
Alien should 100% be Lumina or Gravi, Relic should be Gigapult (again) and aku should be Hevijak. The rest of them are fine imo.
No?? Cat machine tankier than both and just better against aliens and hevijaks not a tank 😭 😭
no roe cat? or ramen cat
Ramen is moreso a spammable meatshield rather than a heavy cooldown tanker
Me waiting for jagando true form
What about lumina?
9:23 how did you get this calculation for Max Hp?
Description
@@Euan_Ma why does MK3 have more max hp than Gamereon despite having 100k less hp by comparison?
There should be the best general tank
(Without any typing)
I believe Hades from almighties would fit that role best but im not sure
Bro these are just the highest effective hp tankers of said trait, like roe is obviously the best red tanker but i digress
@@GwaGwa-xr1fl Ah yes, roe cat can totally tank a million dps cyclone fr
@@Euan_Mathat’s not the point. The point is that roe cat is usually better in most red tanking situations because of its spammability
@@GwaGwa-xr1flNo he is not, his cd doesn't affect anything here, Ruri is just better due to stupid hp, and more importantly, dodge ability. Against her target trait, she is unstoppable, unlike roe, who doesn't work in all red stages.
I think yaminora is a better Aku tank
im in cotc ch2 and i have none of these ubers
Metal cat
how do you calculate max hp with dodge?
We all know that *togelan pasalan* is the best tank in the game
Why ruri is best for relic if gigapult has better hp?
Dodge
Tbh dark garu is daddy
Is kyosaka not the best metal tank? I haven’t done the maths so please correct me if I’m wrong but my level 33 kyosaka lasted for ages against the metal cyclone. If I’m wrong please tell me how much health she has
Idk abt the hp numbers, but kyosaka is not a tanker, tankers sit on the frontlines and sit there, kyosaka has 7kb and is not meant to take hits like that.
It’s a completely different classification, she’s more of a metal attacker/ nuker
I wouldn’t really say she’s a tanker, and while she does have good health against metals, she has less health compared to Sakura
We all know if all papaluga is the best
most stages are mixed traited
This video focuses on specific traits
what about witches and Eva angels
Those are considered as sub-traits
@@evanchrisdurango2494 might as well call bases subtraits if thats what sub-trait means.
What about kai for floating?
She only has ~2 million effective hp at level 60
These stats make no sense bro like cat Machine who has 345 k hp with resistent then 1.38 Million hp not 6 million 💀
Maybe read the description, you're not calculating the maximum.
Fire vid chat
I understand that cat machine mk3 have way more hp than lumina... but how can you call him the best tanker when he cant f.cking tank half of his trait cause of warp!!! This is too big difference... lumina also has way more efficient attack that actually manage to debuff... he cant hit a single enemy!!! And for the last... lumina cause of his range can still be used on mixed stage using meatshield... he can stop any alien backliner while she still alive... and alien are one of the trait with most backliners... cat machine get roasted by any other enemy and die before you can get the second one...
best tanker imo is togelan pasalan
Hey Euan
lumina is better tank than cat machine
Lumina is easily the better alien tanker
Luminalia has 3m ehp at lvl 50 while cat machine has over 6m
@@tufiz there’s other aspects aside from raw Hp that make a good tanker unit
@@randybutternubs7820 True but i think this video is more about raw hp. Also i doubt cat machine actually has 6.7m ehp i don’t know where he got that from
Perhaps you should read the description (tufiz)
@@Euan_Ma I forgot about the talent orbs and the cat base things you're right
Hades surpasses em all 😂
Not really, at level 60 he only has 800000 hp which is less than any of the tankers here
Nanaho is the best tank for metals
it's not even close ok
@@Euan_Mashe has insanely tough wdym
@@Controlledby sakura has insanely, with actual hp, and talent orb
No due to her 7 kb countq
W
Where roe at
Ruri too good, and this video only has legend rares and ube rares
@@Euan_Ma oh well its fine but can u make another vid like uberless/legendless
Toxic is hades ?
toxic is not a trait, but yeah, hades is best in general (garu can't tank traitless, and is not curse/toxic immune)
@@Euan_Ma oh yeah thank u :D