Let's call it 25 years, as of this moment. The new Michelle Fowler was just not the same character at all. I know I'd rather forget about it. We need a storyline which briefly explains that it was an imposter, so that our good memories of a legendary character and actress are fully restored.
@@dianewebb3343 there's another pic of her in london sitting outside a restaurant snapped by the paps. It was doing the rounds about a decade ago. You'll find it on Google.
Huge thanks to whoever posted this i loved Michelle Fowler as a kid I suppose she was my first crush although it was all very innocent as I was so young and didn't really know anything about men and women
I'll be back in a year. More like I wont bother coming back for Arthur, Mark or Pauline s funeral and 20 years later return in a bad move by producers recasting the role made iconic by Susan Tully.
@@hannahrogers200 She'd retired from acting though and I'd say it's not that easy to just go back. She's a full time director now and so that's her job, she just can't opt out when it suits and go back to her old job. Eastenders is filmed in elstree outside London and she could be working somewhere in Scotland or Wales on a job so it's not like she can just turn up on eastenders whenever she takes fancy. Think about it, would you return to an old job for a short stint?
Never did understand the way Pailine was carrying on. Missing Michelle fair enough, but trying to emotionally blackmail her into staying does not make sense.
God some parents are really controlling over their kids. Particularly daughters. Pauline wasn’t this horrible to Mark when he left. It seems sons are favoured over daughter’s when it comes to choices and freedom. Best thing Michelle did was get away from miserable Pauline!
This is the sort of response I'd probably get from my family if I moved. Family takes things way to personal. You got to do what's right for yourself. How about supporting her and telling her she always has a home to come back to.
@K90_ 2019 Arther has the right idea. I feel for Pauline she likes her family around her but she is more afraid of letting her go than supporting her daughter. Think of it like this. If someone told you you can't do something, you'd want to do it more. If you hang onto someone for dear life it suffocates them and they want to get away even more. It's probably a generational thing that dates back a long time about always putting family first but without her family around her Pauline is underneath it all very lonely. She is a little controlling and likes things her way but so do a lot of people. I remember my Mom going fancy letting your child live halfway across the world, about a neighbour without you I wouldn't allow it and my Mom like Pauline too, us underneath it all very lonely and suddenly doing something for yourself to people like Pauline and my Mom is selfish to them, because they sacrificed themselves for family but from a child's perspective you want your parents to support you. I know my Mother doesn't if I wanted to move to Australia and become a vet, she'd try putting me off or getting someone to stop it she wouldn't think about supporting carear choices or passions of mine that aren't of interest to her and because of that she said to my husband last year she doesn't know what to get me for Christmas because she doesn't know me. I'd have told her if she was interested in having a conversation about deep meaningful things but not a lot of people are so I've just respected that she's not that way inclined but she doesn't know me, she doesn't know what my interests are and that's very sad, my husband had to tell her what to get. When I wanted to learn guitar he went and found my guitar lessons my Mom wouldn't do that. She'd look at that and think what a waste of time
Sorry, I thought you were a decent human being. My mistake. That ain't love, in that clip, it's about her realising she'll be on her own. You can be upset about something and think of someone else at the same time but she's taking away her daughters voice, power to choose what she wants to do with her life, that's what I don't agree with. Her daughter isn't five or six she's a fully grown woman.
@@alcudiababe1 if you ever watched the show you'd know Michelle always did what she wanted then as usually came crying back when it suited her. She was a very selfish self centred person. I'd be glad to wave her off.
Why on earth would anyone stay around this permanently miserable family? If you want to be a miserable person, stay in Albert Square! Pauline Fowler has been utterly miserable since at least the last quarter of 1985. This myth that she was a shining light up till 2006 is absolute rubbish. She was somewhat positive while Lou was around, but ever since she found out Michelle was pregnant (September 1985), she has been very clear about her disdain and resentment for her family. When Joe Macer said in late 2006, you’ve never been happy , I think he was right, at least for late 1985 onwards!
Never realised she had such a career after. Never enjoy it in soaps when characters go and then forever get mentioned. Feel EastEnders had way more of them than other soaps
This was the time the original eastenders started to change the following 10 years had some great stories but from 2005 it got hard to watch and was declining in characters and stories
i don't agree. The show has never had a consistent golden era despite the claims that the 80s were the best when around 1989 the show was criticised for losing its touch and in 1990 cast culls and a revamp happened to give it a boost or improve it. The show has always gone in cycles- some brilliant, some ok and some downright awful. A good section of 2003 and 2004 were blasted for being bad quality for example. 2005 saw great improvement but since that it has gone in waves depending on who the director is but it has always been like that ad eras like the 08-10 era were some of the greatest stuff they ever did or other great eras were 2014-2016 and the show has being in a very good place since the directer Sean O Connor left. Some of the 90s eras were also criticised for being poor. Do not mistake higher ratings of the past for higher quality, the ratings were higher in the past because there was no internet and most people only had 4-6 channels.
And there is me buying a ticket for my daughter to go to Canada from Australia 😂 You know you have done your job as a parent when your child feels like they can go and be independent. Will I miss her ? Absolutely, but it would be selfish of me to put my own wants above her dreams
you'd be surprised. In my workplace, somebody was stealing coffee out of the staffroom. I am talking opening the jar pouring vast amounts out and then putting it back as if nobody would notice and people were stealing colleagues' suit work jackets if they left them unattended. I know suit jacks are actually expensive but still an odd thing to steal from a workplace. Completely bizarre what people would steal, we thought it was the cleaners as the thefts were done after hours.
"I'll only be gone a year."
*Is never seen again for the next 20 years.*
Let's call it 25 years, as of this moment. The new Michelle Fowler was just not the same character at all. I know I'd rather forget about it. We need a storyline which briefly explains that it was an imposter, so that our good memories of a legendary character and actress are fully restored.
Susan Tully disappears forever. Wonder what she is like nowadays.
@@dianewebb5772 she was on a recent pic on the line of duty cast and crew as she was the director.
@@shanefolan yeah. not a very clear photo though of her.
@@dianewebb3343 there's another pic of her in london sitting outside a restaurant snapped by the paps. It was doing the rounds about a decade ago. You'll find it on Google.
Huge thanks to whoever posted this i loved Michelle Fowler as a kid I suppose she was my first crush although it was all very innocent as I was so young and didn't really know anything about men and women
I'll be back in a year. More like I wont bother coming back for Arthur, Mark or Pauline s funeral and 20 years later return in a bad move by producers recasting the role made iconic by Susan Tully.
She should have returned for the funerals that was totally wrong of Susan not to shocking really
@@hannahrogers200 She'd retired from acting though and I'd say it's not that easy to just go back. She's a full time director now and so that's her job, she just can't opt out when it suits and go back to her old job. Eastenders is filmed in elstree outside London and she could be working somewhere in Scotland or Wales on a job so it's not like she can just turn up on eastenders whenever she takes fancy. Think about it, would you return to an old job for a short stint?
Arthur's reaction to losing his potatoes mirroring the perceived loss of his daughter.
EastEnders basically calling Michelle a potato
What an amazing actor Bill Treacher was
❤
I was watching an olf grange hill and he was a dad in it, so youNG, HE WAS ALSO IN A JULIETTE BRAVO EPISODE
Pauline was such an emotionally manipulative mother.
Traits of Lou Beale!
Never did understand the way Pailine was carrying on. Missing Michelle fair enough, but trying to emotionally blackmail her into staying does not make sense.
7 months later Arthur was gone as well
God some parents are really controlling over their kids. Particularly daughters. Pauline wasn’t this horrible to Mark when he left. It seems sons are favoured over daughter’s when it comes to choices and freedom. Best thing Michelle did was get away from miserable Pauline!
So controlling. I've had similar issues with me and my brother. He's always been favourited. And his kids over mine
True.
The part where Arthur Is upset about his potato’s getting stolen really made me upset 😢💔
This is the sort of response I'd probably get from my family if I moved. Family takes things way to personal. You got to do what's right for yourself. How about supporting her and telling her she always has a home to come back to.
@K90_ 2019 if you love them, let them go. They'll always come back to you.
@K90_ 2019 Arther has the right idea. I feel for Pauline she likes her family around her but she is more afraid of letting her go than supporting her daughter. Think of it like this. If someone told you you can't do something, you'd want to do it more. If you hang onto someone for dear life it suffocates them and they want to get away even more. It's probably a generational thing that dates back a long time about always putting family first but without her family around her Pauline is underneath it all very lonely. She is a little controlling and likes things her way but so do a lot of people. I remember my Mom going fancy letting your child live halfway across the world, about a neighbour without you I wouldn't allow it and my Mom like Pauline too, us underneath it all very lonely and suddenly doing something for yourself to people like Pauline and my Mom is selfish to them, because they sacrificed themselves for family but from a child's perspective you want your parents to support you. I know my Mother doesn't if I wanted to move to Australia and become a vet, she'd try putting me off or getting someone to stop it she wouldn't think about supporting carear choices or passions of mine that aren't of interest to her and because of that she said to my husband last year she doesn't know what to get me for Christmas because she doesn't know me. I'd have told her if she was interested in having a conversation about deep meaningful things but not a lot of people are so I've just respected that she's not that way inclined but she doesn't know me, she doesn't know what my interests are and that's very sad, my husband had to tell her what to get. When I wanted to learn guitar he went and found my guitar lessons my Mom wouldn't do that. She'd look at that and think what a waste of time
@K90_ 2019 no. Acceptance was key.
Sorry, I thought you were a decent human being. My mistake.
That ain't love, in that clip, it's about her realising she'll be on her own.
You can be upset about something and think of someone else at the same time but she's taking away her daughters voice, power to choose what she wants to do with her life, that's what I don't agree with. Her daughter isn't five or six she's a fully grown woman.
@@alcudiababe1 if you ever watched the show you'd know Michelle always did what she wanted then as usually came crying back when it suited her. She was a very selfish self centred person. I'd be glad to wave her off.
They ruined pauline
Why on earth would anyone stay around this permanently miserable family? If you want to be a miserable person, stay in Albert Square! Pauline Fowler has been utterly miserable since at least the last quarter of 1985. This myth that she was a shining light up till 2006 is absolute rubbish. She was somewhat positive while Lou was around, but ever since she found out Michelle was pregnant (September 1985), she has been very clear about her disdain and resentment for her family. When Joe Macer said in late 2006, you’ve never been happy , I think he was right, at least for late 1985 onwards!
This was when Michelle was pregnant with grants child
most touching moment
''I'' ll be back''- except not for your funeral next year, or mark's or mum's...
Yeah but she comes back when Phil had a dodgy liver, because Sharon needed her.
@@jazzbollywood Susan Tully returned to Eastendes? No way, I don't believe it.
@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 The character returned not the actress Susan Tully.
@@jazzbollywood Doesn't count in my book.
Michelle wouldn’t be back for twenty years, because she feared she would turn into her gran and mum
She never came back lol some other actress did 🤣 seriously though I can't watch the newer eastenders
@@Darlingnikki84 Susan Tully (Michelle) did direct a few eps years later
But then she eventually became what her mum and gran always said she'd become - "a lonely old spinster".
Doesn't Pauline not realise that Michelle is 26?
She was 28
@@paulmajor886526 this was 1995 and she was 16 in 1985 so must be 26 here
Pauline was so selfish with Michelle and actually all her kids. She's calling Michelle selfish but she is the one who is.
Totally. Also Mich had her own daughter to think about which Pauline never really took into consideration
I wish I was living the dream just like that.
Never realised she had such a career after.
Never enjoy it in soaps when characters go and then forever get mentioned. Feel EastEnders had way more of them than other soaps
"I'll only be gone a year."
Comes back with a head transplant
@NoodleEdd TV and they changed the person to
She started off firsty for old men then 20 years later she was firsty for school boys. Slapper
This was the time the original eastenders started to change the following 10 years had some great stories but from 2005 it got hard to watch and was declining in characters and stories
i don't agree. The show has never had a consistent golden era despite the claims that the 80s were the best when around 1989 the show was criticised for losing its touch and in 1990 cast culls and a revamp happened to give it a boost or improve it. The show has always gone in cycles- some brilliant, some ok and some downright awful. A good section of 2003 and 2004 were blasted for being bad quality for example. 2005 saw great improvement but since that it has gone in waves depending on who the director is but it has always been like that ad eras like the 08-10 era were some of the greatest stuff they ever did or other great eras were 2014-2016 and the show has being in a very good place since the directer Sean O Connor left.
Some of the 90s eras were also criticised for being poor. Do not mistake higher ratings of the past for higher quality, the ratings were higher in the past because there was no internet and most people only had 4-6 channels.
@@shanefolan finally someone who gets it 👏.
she is running away cos she is pregnant with Grant's baby
Never liked Michelle she always looked miserable 😖
she was supposed to though, it was supposed to be about downtrodden characters in the east end.
arthur looks like the lion from the wizard of oz
Shane Folan lol
@@aishakhan8281 he does though ha,i can't believe more people never pick this out.
Shane Folan I agree he does
no he doesn't
Oh my.god yes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And there is me buying a ticket for my daughter to go to Canada from Australia 😂 You know you have done your job as a parent when your child feels like they can go and be independent. Will I miss her ? Absolutely, but it would be selfish of me to put my own wants above her dreams
I liked Michelle. Too bad she left the show.
Nigel was weird with claire.. he wasn’t her dad and he was not normal when he was talking about her. Weirdo
Good riddance to bad rubbish and a selfish woman.She had her faults Pauline said,damn right there and no morals
👏👏
Finally someone who gets it. Michelle was a selfish character with absolutely no morals. Her Mum and gran read her like a book.
Too right. Michelle was a selfish slapper!
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Who the foooooock would steal potatoes lol
you'd be surprised. In my workplace, somebody was stealing coffee out of the staffroom. I am talking opening the jar pouring vast amounts out and then putting it back as if nobody would notice and people were stealing colleagues' suit work jackets if they left them unattended. I know suit jacks are actually expensive but still an odd thing to steal from a workplace. Completely bizarre what people would steal, we thought it was the cleaners as the thefts were done after hours.
I loved Arthur. R.I.P Bill Treacher x
@@helenamcauley3135 Bill is still alive
@@shanefolan9175 aye ur right!
@@helenamcauley3135 did u think he was?
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