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PoE 3.24 - The Graveyard Endgame Crafting Guide
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- #pathofexile #endgame #guide
In this video I want to go over everything you need to know to plan your endgame crafts in Necropolis.
Graveyard Planner: sudos.help/poe/graveyard
Craft Of Exile: www.craftofexile.com/
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00:00 - Craft Of Exile Estimator
03:54 - Ele Bow Example
18:11 - Caveats
26:13 - Graveyard Tetris
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Happy to see the tool is helping you guys with the planing. Added some new features today and fixed some small bugs.
If you miss a feature or have a suggestion, please let me know.
I used it yesterday to plan a big craft and it was massive help! One item I noted (not sure if fixed yet), but the divine corpse (reroll 6x) isn't being affected by boosts correctly. In game it applies % effect to the 6x and in the tool treats 6x rolls as 1 instance (e.g., 25% boost nets you 7 rerolls in game but still 6x in the tool, until you hit a 100% multi).
The tool is amazing thank you so much
great work man, thank you. I dont know if possible, but ideally you would input the values per modifier (like "i want 600 attr, i want 600 scarcer chaos, etc." and i would calculate ideal placement which is less costly in the end
@@G00R00 Just added this :) you can now input stats and klick on "start simulation" , the tool tries to simulate a optimal placement
What a great tool! I have a question, when running the simulation it doesn't always connect all of the plot, if I'm using the row/column corpses does this matter? I'm hoping that having an increased row effect will 'connect' all of the plots for that row, even if they're not right next to each other.
This is a great video overall and will help a lot of people. I will say, you initially set up the bow craft as a 5 mod item so that's what CraftofExile calculated it as, which is why it came up with ~21 attempts. Had you picked 3 prefix and 3 suffix like your final item, it would have calculated about 7 attempts. Your way of doing it is still slightly more efficient with the 5 attempts but wasn't quite fair to compare to the initial calculation of 21 attempts. It's also not accurate to say you are guaranteed the bow in 2 full crafts. That's an average but you could craft 10 bows and still not hit the correct modifiers. Thanks for the video though!
Great video. Thanks for doing this. Helps a ton.
8:40 Amount of tier rating you need to hit T1 is equal to number of tier of that mod pool, minus 1 and then x100. There are 10 tier in added damage pool so you need 900 tier rating
Dude omg this helped thank you so much
Thanks, That explained it very well, cheers
beast video guide on internet so far. GJ amazing as aways
There is a very simple layout you can do with the 2 grid areas that have a 3x3 square using 4x 40% effect of adjacent corpses, and hitting the center with a row/column, and adding an additional craft to the center. That provides a 114% chance for additional item craft when placed in the center of each, that in itself is a 1.57x multiplier to hit the item you want. Adding those doesn't affect your odds for everything else, the boosted squares on the rest off the grid still ads up to more than the 1x you consumed per square.
wow thanks man, once i get the money ill use this to make my frost nova wand
Thanks!
i just made a really sick helmet! this crafting is kinda dope
10/10 stellar!
I massively prefer doing the simple setup more with just rows and columns. I guarantee a lot of people are just destroying any enjoyment that would have been there by worrying way too much about doing the 40% tetris in that corner. I've been using rows and columns for copying and it's just fine. If you want to do pain min maxing - the corner is definitely the way to go though.
At this point - I'd honestly just say that they should make the 40%'s non-specific like they did with the tiers. It's already a busted crafting system - might as well make it more enjoyable to interact with. Those 40%'s are the core of what are scaring people away from it because they think it's too complicated.
I agree
I noticed that in every layout for the sudos tool, they only use one grave row boost in the bottom left, and one column boost on the long right-side column. Its much more efficient to use at least two, and if you're looking to really boost "craft additional item" or "mirror", then it's a good idea to actually use three on the bottom left row.
I was wondering about this, do we know if they stack?
@@magixnyx yes they do stack. They don’t boost each other as Meta Mods cannot be boosted, but two row boosts will apply a 50% boost to the rest of the row.
Wait what about rolling number of sockets not to mention the specific colors you would need ? You cant change mirrored items? never tried the graveyard crafting yet but curious about this
just go for the cheapest method of 6 socketing and linking in game, for socketing buy the omen of jeweler or jewelers compare what's cheaper, next is the cheapest method to link 6 sockets, buy The black morrigan and spider craicic beasts both costs like 70-90 chaos instead of buying 600 fusings for 1div.
@@rpg5265 That is not quite what he was asking. When using the mirroring setup you will generate mirrored copies. And afaik there is no way in the game to influence mirrored items in any way with jewellers or some other currency to change sockets etc.
Don't use the mirror corpse
Shit I should have mentioned that, you're right. If you're mirroring you need to force links by using link corpses up to your maximum of 6 on bows for example otherwise they won't be linked.
@@CrouchingTuna you should probably add this in a pinned comment
Ive only tried three craps, havent found many corpses up to yello maps. Lots of the quality and explicit corpses but very few of the defence, fire type corpses. I have tried to craft fire/life ruby rings and have found that even though I have adjacent graves filled that after the craft some of the slots remain filled and i have no idea whats in them.
@Crouching_Tuna Great video!
Just a heads up... I was talking to Nebu and after catching some of your stream he implemented your algorithm for reducing corpses to optimize and still keep approximately the same results. It's live now. He also added max corpse slider too. He put this in a few hours ago. Also, spread the word... if you find some anomalies the algorithm or ways it could be improved, just reach out to him. He's friendly and doesn't mind getting constructive feedback. Cheers.
that is actually amazing holy shit thank you!
how can i figure out the best way to make a multiple fracture knowing everytime i use craft of exil it use "+1 explicit" but i know that some double fracture need "-1 explicit" so how can i think about that?
So on the bow it would have been a good idea to use a "attribute modifiers are scarcer" since dex was the only one that could roll right?
YES
hey tuna, im trying to use necropolis for crafting but for a lot of end game itens its a lot harder and trying to get and specific item with less than 6 mods is harder too
hey tuna, is it possible to get ward base? and how? im running expeditions in maps but no luck
in your example you're wrong to say it's not valuable to decrease "attack" b/c it's in common w/ the mods you want. while yes it will also decrease the chance for those mods the RELATIVE effect on the other mods is much higher because you're reducing their chance from BASE whereas w/ your mods you've already increased the chance by 5000% so the net effect of reducing it is fairly small. hope that made sense
How do you change the misellaneous mods? Like if you want to add -1 explicit mod?
Thanks Sushi i was looking into that, i have one question tho for perfect phys bow tehre is problem where leech have the same tags as phys desired mods, was wondering is there better method than slaming lots of mana/life corpses to reduce it?
Phys definitely complicates things, there's no way unless you slam lots of life and mana as you said.
Do you have to solve your sockets in graves as well if you plan on getting mirrored copy?
How do i roll more than one craft with the same corpses?
CN I double influence fractured items with graveyard crafting
Damn, one day I want to see Tuna on stream in full suit with a neck tie too and if something bad happens he should say "My Disappointment Is Immeasurable And My Day Is Ruined". Thanks for the guide btw !
Idk why people don’t like this league mechanic. Makes crafting way more deterministic and not just throwing a bunch of essences at the item for a rng miracle.
Are we SOL in SSF?
Fo you guys know how much corpse level matters?
Is the compute best selection function any good? im pretty shit and any type of math so it seems very daunting and more of a guessing game to calculate all the corpses i would need
i made a new video the tools have improved a lot since this one
I already figured this out, made a recipe for a mirror worthy bow, then realised how much the materials cost combined with the time it takes to get it from POE Trade. You can get it from TFT but it's 2-3 times the cost. You end up spending a mirror on a craft. May as well buy the items when they flood the market.
Graveyard layout need to utilize cntrl c/x
Does anyone know which corpses are considered meta modifiers and tier modifiers, does it make sense to spec into these on the atlas passive tree?
There's corpse rushing strategies specialising around these nodes if you're interested check out milkybk_ videos on it!
@@CrouchingTuna thanks for the answer will do.
How do you select one of the mods as being fractured? I can't figure out how to do that on craftofexile.
The graveyard picks mods at random to fracture
If we want to jack up the number of fractures would we use the 275% layout an replace additionnal copy with fracture ?@@CrouchingTuna
@@pbc1337 yes, though you can just place them anywhere if you want. The crafts are pretty cheap.
will you be doing a guide how to craft sceptre for exang
i'm here 5 seconds into the video because nowhere on the COE website does it mention FRACTURED MODS for the graveyard tool and its pissing me off
please for the love of god, does he mention fractured mods how-to on COE?
does the level of the corpse decide the ilvl of the craft? can you use +modifier tier to overcome ilvl or will ilvl still decide the max level of the tier?
Corpse level does determine ilvl of craft. You can increase this by using the "+1 to item level" meta mods. Mod tier increases respect ilvl; in particular, increases to mod tier REMOVES the lowest x% of available tiers to roll. You can play around with this in CoE to see what you can roll.
Edit: Not lowest; as noted below, average of corpse lvls used.
Pretty sure it's an average of all corpse levels combined
@@DoPtRiGGa Yea that's right; my first few crafts were mostly using lower tier corpses w/ +1 lvl so didn't notice that. Thanks for the correction!
The corpse drop rates and weightings are fucked, it's still very much a league for the top 0.01% even after all the buffs. They've made a system with so much tedium and opportunity cost that it can only be worth it to craft GGGG end game items. Anyone with less than 20 divines for a lottery ticket need not apply.
the cropses that u need a ton of. hardly ever drop
this league mechanic cannot make GGGG end game items, it all withing 10 divs or so unless you get lucky for +2 proj which will make the item a bit more expensive, but still nowhere near proper mirror tier
wouldn't projectile speed be quite good for LA?
Yes, but you definitely don't want it instead of attack speed. If you get it as extra on top then it's great.
@@CrouchingTuna yeah, wasn't precise at all i had crit chance, as and proj speed in mind, like it would supplement la mechnaic + add some damage from proj speed > proj dmg mastery
Craftofexile Graveyard tool is very strange. In first days of this tool i tried to "craft" wand and it compute for me craft with 28 corpses, now it always suggest you 88/88 even if result are similar to 30 corpses.
Also, i have one question, maybe anyone knows. I need to craft item with maximum ilvl 82. But if i farm t16 maps i getting ilvl 83 corpses. I know about corpses that raises your item ilvl after craft, but if i understand correctly - corpse that LOWERS item ilvl - doesn't exist and item level of finished item equals highest ilvl of corpse used in craft.
So what i can do? My options are farming t14 or use trade and thats all?
The only way to lower ilvl would be to go in like tier 1 maps and get very low level crafts to try slam down the average
@@CrouchingTuna Yeah, it some sort of average..Previously i did test craft with 2 corpses - 79ilvl and 82 ilvl and i got 82 ilvl ring. Thats why i thought that it uses max ilvl. Now i tried again: 79 ilvl corpse + 83 ilvl = 82 ilvl item. Im not sure that i understand how it works. Probably my math is as bad as my English. xdd
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Every time GGG makes a crafting league they overcomplicate the actual application then they dial it back and make it more simple (harvest) I dont know why they arent learning from this. It just needs a more simple UI interface for the corpses and maybe juicing the corpses themselves. If this goes core these are things they are going to change. Its the garden all over again. This time only worse.
Hey!! Nice video my friend. Last day , i did my sceptre for my build exsan . 88 corps and i roll everything i want t1. But sadly , i rolled +1 all fire spell gems insted of +1 phys. Bro i was mad AF . 😂😅 by the way, great srarter and i dont if i will continue for this league. Also , adding atlas passive tree nods for the league mechanic is not fun. I miss the compass so bad 😢. See you ❤
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So what im hearing here is CoE needs to up their game a bit :P
They need to fix compute or remove"best" from description.
Hi
So basically your saying the compute best selection doesn't actually make the best selection lol
They have greatly improved it since this video so I would try use it, but the video is also intended for teaching how the tool works so you can make crafts with un-listed mods like the haunted modifiers
Not only that, but it also doesn't take into account the layout of the graveyard and the ways you can vastly manipulate the corpse effects.
Isn't this literally what the calculator does tho, why do it manually?
No
Kinda sussy how the league enables amazing meta bows, but completely useless for like a dot scepter..
Definitely sucks that all of the balances that they do melee and quite a few caster builds definitely got the short end 20:59
Drinking game: take a shot every time he says 'in general'
You'd be drunk, generally saying :D
decided to try on first watch and ive given up on the first minute, man has 5 "in generals" already and its a 38 minute long video
@@michaeelmalek633 it's a good video nevertheless)
In general, I think you'd be smashed half way through any video on my channel
The idea about crafting some of the best gear ever is super cool.
But is it just me that find all this extremely boring? :D It's so much work getting all corpses, putting them in the EXACT correct spots etc.
Is it super rewarding currency wise? Obviously, but holy f its so boring :D
Maybe worth doing 1 super craft and then selling all and never look at that stupid graveyard again :D
almost first
What u shouldn’t do when asking someone if they have other corpses, is what every idiot does, pace back and forth impatiently and spam them while in their HO. Unless u like being kicked and ignored for the rest of the season. Apparently that’s 90% of the player base unfortunately
Holy shit I HATE THIS LEAGUE SO MUCH lmao. They really only want people that stream 24/7 to play their games.
mfw compute best selection doesnt compute best selection
wish i held off my craft after trading for 2 hours last night for this vid xd
is this the worst league mechanic of all time?
whoever thought this kinda league mechanic is fun, tztztz. organizing the graveyard takes way too long, so tedious. using craftofexile for an hour before using the actual mechanic, who really wants to do that? i want to play the game. everything in this league is sooo poorly explained, that it makes me think it wasnt developed by ggg, maybe some interns. i hate it, its not fun at all.
Yeah it's not great. And after watching this and another video on crafting i wanted to see what i can do for my RF build. Tried gloves and sceptre on the website and all came out worse compared to just buying a weapon or gloves from trade when i added up the cost of the corpses required. Which is a shame. But at least SSF players can at least get their top tier item this way in Necropolis after a long-long time of farming. Some corpses seem to be very rare and crafts require so many of them.
@DjDanee87 yeah same I tried it a few times but never got anything good so I just gave up on it
Just sell the corpses? Btw the league isn't just crafting,the allflames are pretty good and the devoted modifiers are also pretty good if you don't want to craft...
Half the game is pob, spdreadsheets and other external tools. This league is great. It's just not for you. Play the base game and let the creative people and tool creators have fun for once.
Lmao if only you remembered or played harvest. Setting up your plants was hilarious
Whomever came up with graveyard crafting should quit their job as gameplay designer. Just dear god, they do not understand what makes a good game.
Isnt this crafting mechanic kinda stupid ? Crafting 6t1 affixes, t1 bases items in the first week of the league for a few hours of corpses farming or a few div investment buying the corpses and a calculator? I mean i get it, its fun but like in the grand scheme of things its just fucking stupid
Basically look at it as a league to run a whole lot of different builds. It ain't surviving. This will get orbital striked next league assuming it stays at all.
yea if you're playing trade league it's super braindead just as every league with trading availability is. try out SSF, I've filled a quad tab with coffins and only got 2 resistance and 0 gem corpses, now that's fucking stupid lol
Yep it's dumb AF but I'd rather they do dumb shit from time to time than not take risks
this mechanic is shit, only for 1% of players..
I feel it is waste of time and money to craft a bow no ? In few hours of basic farming alch and go, we have enough to buy these 6 T1 perfect bow for just one or two divines .. Or maybe it is cheaper and faster to buy and farm all the corpses ? (i didnt watch the video)
Bro it should actually be illegal to be this regarded XD like no way!!!!
lol
Duh an ele bow is like 15+ ish divines u insane or what ?
The bow craft was just an example on how to use the tool this wasn't a bow crafting tutorial
Totally understand that some people are new and you need to guide them.. but cmon its not rocket science.. why everyone needs to have a hand to cross the bridge..😂😂
Man, this crafting system is so annoying and lame compared to recomb or harvest. =(
You just listed two mechanics that are so much more annoying than this. Recombs were a giant rng fiesta and harvest was this mechanic except imagine you had like 400 plots that all interacted with each other and _had_ to be in a very specific order. People like harvest _crafting_ not the garden. Garden was objectively worse than this. None of this has to be in any specific order to be a incredible top tier item. Only actual reason to slightly optimize it is to make more than 1 craft at a time.
Why don't you like determinism in crafting?
@@ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022 88 fucking graves. 88 fucking trades, that's why
@Legionthecomrade I personally love the garden. I spend almost the month of that league just grinding seeds and not doing anything on the map. Was super simple planet seed run 3 maps kill seeds. You never needed to stick them down in any order other than making grow times go in the same spot.
This mechanic is the garden part of harvest but way more important on planning. Instead of just having to make a plan once.
@ioannisn.tsiroyiannis6022 crafting isn't the problem the corpses are. Also I'd day this is far less deterministic than the other two but maybe I just understood them more than this.
what a shit league mechanic, synthesis 2.0
3:45 noooo should've done that in game!
This league is a real piece of shit anti fun..
Make impossible item mirror tier is maybe fun for some people but where is the fun to spend hours in excel / craft of exile / tetris.. without tell it will destroy the standard more than any legacy item.
Thanks anyway to explain us how to use this and it's not your fault but the fault of GGG.
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