How Big Meat Manipulated the Science
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2022
- Big Meat downplays the magnitude of meat mortality. How a series of studies published in the Annals of Internal Medicine concluded that people should ignore all the other dietary guidelines about meat.
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● How Big Sugar Undermines Dietary Guidelines (nutritionfacts.org/video/how-...)
● How Big Sugar Manipulated the Science for Dietary Guidelines (nutritionfacts.org/video/how-...)
● Observational Studies Show Similar Results to Randomized Controlled Trials (nutritionfacts.org/video/obse...)
● Failing GRADE for Annals of Internal Medicine Meat Studies (nutritionfacts.org/video/fail...)
● Conflicts of Interest in the Annals of Internal Medicine Meat Studies (nutritionfacts.org/video/conf...)
● The Health Risks vs. Benefits of Meat Consumption (nutritionfacts.org/video/the-...)
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This has been among my favourite sets of videos to date. As soon as that "study" came out that was co-signed by Dr. Johnston (formerly of Dalhousie) I was blasted with messages from people saying stuff like "See? Nothing wrong with eating animals". I said right away that it would be a matter of days before those studies would be proven false and faulty. Dr. Barnard and his colleagues were swift to point out the problems, and Dr. Greger and NF have take time to summarize the truth. I am so grateful for this content. It's life-affirming.
I find it impossible to convice folks with science when it comes to dietary changes, they're all too addicted to their current patterns.
Their argument is, it tastes good. Who cares about the animals, the planet, and their health.
@@Gulzt clever! When warn my parents about the dangers of eating animal foods, they're like but we have health insurance to cover that risk...
My dad was the same way… until he got pancreatic cancer. I had to somehow not break down watching him sob about how he wished he changed his habits. He tried it in the end, without me saying anything at all, I couldn’t bare “rubbing it in his face”, who would?
But it was too late.
It was so heartbreaking.
He was an amazing man.
@@eelkeaptroot1393 25% of people that get a heart attack don't recover from it and just die, theres no health insurance in the world that covers that. But if they like those chances...?
@@Gulzt That's so helpful. Thank you for sharing. I so often want to share Dr. Greger with people, but struggle with the how. Like Eelke said, people are addicted to their current patterns. Me too. I SO need more changes to my diet, but I just keep on trying. Like Dr. Greger says, every little bit helps. Maybe, over time, I will get better and better. 🙂
It just gets worse and worse! The corruption in the research process is almost shocking. How did they think that this wouldn't be carefully picked over by experts in this field? Are the people running the publication arrogant, or are just reckless? Thanks for posting, NF!
They now know they don't have to use correct logic. No matter how crappy the research, charlatans like Saladino and Berry will parade it before their shallow selfish cult members, who will gobble it up and parrot it around the internet seeking crowd validation.
I became vegan for ethical purposes at first. Now I have noticed better digestion, better sleep, and improved energy. Cooking my own meals is powerful. The industrial meat cult is cruel, disastrous for the environment, and simply disgusting. I grew up eating everything and had to suffer illness, inflammation, digestion issues, insomnia, etc...
Same here! Ethics is wat keep us vegan, and better health comes naturally as a great bonus!
@@MrDusuke when people become more aware of savings lives and their own health is when this world will begin todo some much needed healing of both the mind and the body.✌🏽🌍🌎🌏🐄🐖🐇
@April Walford you're totally right. I would say that even sugar cane and coconut is good if you don't extract them, everything packed the way nature intended is way better than refined/extracted/industrialized products. That's the essence of the whole food plant based diet! ❤️ :)
@April Walford meat is so much better, the question is which meat. If you can't choose wisely it's best you don't eat it
Really great job with this series. 👏 I am researching it too and found the exact same thing.
I hope to see you do that video. Of course, I enjoy all of your videos.
Please also do a video on that, i love your videos aswell.
Elegance in argumentation presented eloquently. Thanks you and your team, Dr Greger.
There’s no scientific justification for how humans treat animals.
Glad to be Vegan! 🌱💚
Ill die vegan! but not yet cause studies show..
Wonderful insights. Thanks Dr Greger.
Thank you Dr. Michael Greger.
Wonderful video! I wonder about these high-profile medical journals in your recent videos. And which industry friends acting as independent researchers peer-reviewed those papers?
Vegetarian my whole life, vegan since 5 years. Thanks to Dr. Michael Greger MD I discovered that I can stay healthy as a vegetarian without the eggs and dairy! I felt such an improvement in my health since going fully plant based and eating mainly whole foods. Since I ditched dairy (cheese, butter, cream, milk) my chronic sore throat is gone, and my endurance in physical excercise and dance has improved so much.
Your research and work is brilliant. I am very grateful I found this channel. I was confused with what to do about Autoimmune Hashi's. All say Paleo or Carnivore or Keto. The carnivores believe we were cavemen I believe in the creation account. I don't believe people were only eating meat thousands of years ago. I don't like eating plain hamburger and I could not afford steak every day. I tried this for several weeks one day I ate a pound of bacon and could not stop. The meat eaters push high cholesterol. My instincts told what I am eating this way is not healthy, they are wrong about fruit and vegetables calling them anti nutrients. I can't do Keto because that requires math. I can do calories and moderation. Keto also requires sugar substitutes and I think a lot of fat. I want to keep learning more and watch ALL of his videos.
Consider the victims. Consider what their lives are like. Consider the torture, rape, and violence they endure and ask yourself if the God of mercy could be ok with that.
This is all the reason one needs to refuse to eat animal flesh. The health benefits are a lovely side-affect of compassion and mercy.
I wish you well.
Keto does not require math lol,just a good funeral plan.
We were cavemen and ate mostly plants. Hunting for meat is way more difficult than going to the grocery store, and we ate far less meat than we eat today. Meat was a scarcity.
you are such an inspirational force for good dr greger. thank you for everything you continue to do to inform us to lead healthier lives!
fantastic analysis
Believing anything this butterbean says is equivalent to believing in Santa dropping down the Easter Bunny’s chimney to meet up with the Tooth Fairy. Calling Gregor a charlatan is a massive understatement.
Ok you dont like the guy, now what evidence do you bring?
So glad that you're able to give us reports like this to support our use of veg protein.... it helps when we are asked, "where do you get your protein?" And I get, "why don't you just eat the real thing?"
You do eat the real thing!! Carnivores eat it too is just second hand!!😄 processed through the animal with the “delicious” additions of waste, toxins, and carcinogens. No thanks!! Vegan diet is a diet for LIFE!!😊🤙
Sure this a good report….but you started of by linking both red meat and processed meat in the same category. Although I eat neither, I suspect that a limited amount of free range, grass fed meat is good for you….though the cow in question may not agree!
Seems like you would like to believe the saturated fat in a free range hamburger is going to clog fewer arteries than the saturated fat in a grain fed hamburger?
[edit] …Which reminds me of the scene in the movie “My Cousin Vinny” where Joe Pesci’s character is cross examining the cook about how long it takes to cook grits…”were these magic grits?”
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Can we get any news about the progression of the making of the "How Not to Age" book since we didn't get any update about it lately. Thank you !
@@fredericpaquette5289 Sadly the publication date has been pushed back to 12/23. I promise it will be worth it though!
Great points, and presented brilliantly! Thank you for pointing out that this Emperor has no clothes.
Thanks !
👍👍 #BoycottMeat and all other animal products of cruelty and exploitation in any way possible!
Ringo Starr of the Beatles doesn't eat meat and he's 80 and doesn't look it, he's a vegan. Paul McCartney is vegetarian. Both were like this since the 1960s. Both are slim and still going strong. I would like to see a carnivore or keto person who started in their 20s and now 80?
Linda McCartney was also a vegetarian and died at 56 from cancer so maybe it had nothing to do with the diet.
@@beepbeepnj2658 Ah yes, Linda McCartney, the vegetarian cigarette and spliff smoking sadly deceased wife of Paul.
Some people get cancer when it's not their fault. The game of life has more skill than Monopoly and more luck than Chess. You can play it in a dumb way or you can play it in a well informed way.
@@beepbeepnj2658 I know. I don't know why.
Steve Jobs was a frutarian.
@@wocket42 I would never eat just fruit. I did that one year when was 30 yrs old. Fruit and carrot juice I was anorexic.
It sickness me to the core to hear this. how foul these peoples minds must be to manipulate data in this magnitude and, in the process, throwing billions of human and animal lifes under the bus.
Excellent…except where he talks about comparing -> smoking to not smoking & eating meat to vegetarians, BECAUSE he just explained that eating eggs (which vegetarians generally eat) is WORSE than red meat.
A one way ticket to hell for Big Meat would be too kind. We’ve had a gutful of them.
I saw an article "Veganism makes depressive". It relates to an unnamed study, so nobody can checkt who made it.
But of course all the people that hate change even if it's for the better now have a new argument.
The article didn't even explain how veganism causes depression. Only that the number of depressed people in the unnamed study was higher in the vegan group than in the omni group.
And people don't care about facts as long as something supports their opinion.
I find it depressing to see how little people care about animals and how they close their eyes to what is done to them just so they can eat and have eggs and animal milk.
When you are an ethical vegan, you can no longer ignore that horridness. Your just can't.
This world is just depressing for caring people. That doesn't mean that they should change. It might just mean that everyone else should.
Corporate interests have far too much influence on our society. Profits should not be more important than human health. It's shameful.
NO Big GMOs corn syrup soy oil
Children learn their eating habits from their parents.
Go vegan. It will help educate your children and grandchildren.
Here is the truth..... thanks for it Dr. GREGER
lots of bad meat in pet food
Am I here before the meat industry paid trolls?
Mc Ds = Pink slime & saw dust
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Thank you, Dr. Greger, for keeping us informed and healthy.🥦🥬🫑
Health care costs are out of control. Going vegan can save money, pain and suffering from disease.
I will not eat ze bugs.
You sound exactly like the type of person who would eat bugs.
How can meat which has protein, fats, minerals and vitamins you need be compared to smoking which has zero of all 4?
because both are unhealthy
@@Nobody-Nowhere How can meat which has protein, fats, minerals and vitamins that you need be unhealthy, unless you are consuming too much of it or is of bad defective quality or prepared the wrong way?
@@CRM-114 What about the saturated fat in human breast milk does that begin the process of heart disease for the baby?
@@CRM-114 You just said saturated fat clogs arteries but now you say the saturated fat in human breast milk does not start the process of clogging the arteries of the baby? Please explain.
You sure it wasn't the Big Vegetable?
Or big grain, Or supplement industry
Not sure if there is a "Big Vegetable", but "Big Cereal" definitely exists and has manipulated the recommended food pyramid for 50-100 years now (Kellog and the 7th day Adventist Cereal industry). If you eat grain, it's because of you have been lied to by "Big Cereal".
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Next: How big pharma manipulated the world?
- Imagine thinking meat is harmful for you, when in reality is the best thing you can eat. Where the differences come in is a) who tends to eat meat b) what the meat comes with (seed oils, bread and other shit) and so on. Meat fundamentally is a synthesis of plant sources that also generate some extra compounds that can't be found in plants. To think then that makes it toxic/bad is crazy talk considering the immense benefits you find because of it's nutrient density and availability. This is obviously within the context of getting a good meat source as would be the context for any type of food. The amount of confounders and flawed studies not accounting for what was mentioned above (and no trying to reduce the bias within the study after the data is collected doesn't weed out the inherit bias in the data via bad study design).
- What people need to realize is that animal and plant based diets can work, but processed food diets can't. Now that being said one diet is more optimal than the other and on average the meat based one will be better because of the nutrient density and availability (plus it's better for the environment within the context of a regenerative farming approach). Meat based approach will be optimal for most by far because that is what we adapted to over millions of years due to the caloric/nutritional density of it. That being said some will be able to get away with being more plant focused but going 100% plant based for a long period of time will probably be a negative. You will have some draw back in some area more than likely. I personally thing there is great value in rotating around a natural diet which is meat focused, and then supplemented in with little bit of fruit and rarely veggies.
LMFAOOO
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Got it; the issue is in the sharing of results data, which invariably seem to suffer from strong healthy-user bias, not with the data itself, which actually does not corroborate any findings on the ill effects of meat consumption. Assuming there even are any.
Ill stick to eating a vegetable every now and then when I feel like it, and fruits when they’re in season. But no one will stop me from consuming high quality, bioavailable, and nourishing animal food sources. I still get carded at 36, have a resting heart rate of 62bpm, and ideal metabolites and lipid profile.
ur mum is bioavailable ;)
… please elaborate on the carnivore diet, we are talking eating high quality, gras fed meet, and it’s good looking and healthy proponents … thanks 🙏🏻
Basically if it has blood it likely isn’t good for you. Grass fed or not. There are tons of documentaries (Netflix, Amazon) that you can watch to educate yourself. It’s way too elaborate to just answer on a YT comment.
@@Mokes888 What did Dr. Leila Denmark say were the 3 best protein foods?
@@beepbeepnj2658 Maybe you can look it up.
@@Mokes888 She said the best protein is from eggs, lean meat and black eyed peas. Do you think she has been fooling herself and the over 250,000 kids she treated with a faultless exemplary track record?
Seventh Day Adventists are some of the healthiest people in America. Look it up on why that is.
They are so patheitc and desperate
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Big meat 😂
I like to do what I call, Meat Mondays. The only day of the week I get to have a meal with meat in it.
Carnivore diet: Jordan Peterson and his daughter, Mikhaila recommend it.
As so do many others.
@@CRM-114 personal experience is a good source of obtaining an insight into a topic.
@@CRM-114 yeah, okay, feel free to believe the mainstream narrative.
If you disagree with him doesn't make him wrong.
Its not as if corporations, governments and pharmaceutical producers ever lie, misrepresent or manipulate data and studies.
Maybe you should do some independent research yourself.
Anyway, you're aloud to believe all the fairy tales you wish to.
Good day to you.
They don’t recommend it. They don’t particularly want to eat that way. They feel that they have to because they are dealing with pretty severe health issues.
@@_Andrew._ Literally the opposite is true.
Anecdotal evidence is the lowest tier of evidence in terms of quality.
And with all due respect, how is that of any relevance whatsoever? If I become rich, famous and respected, can I tell you how to eat? Still not sure if you are trolling though.
Dr. Greger you are definitely shadow banned my friend
BS
Yes, it's bs how much influence animal agriculture has on government.
I HAVE BIG MEAT 🍖🥓 AND I FIND THIS TRIGGERING!
This is all true, and thanks for exposing it. Now imagine and let's dig deep into vaccine manufacturers (some with criminal histories) and their manipulation of science in the context of this plandemic, that would be interesting to say the least. 'Nuff said
People on both sides of the fence can argue all day about the ethics of eating animals. There's no getting around scientific fact though, Meat is bad for the environment and for our bodies.
Just because something is enjoyable doesn't mean its good for you. Don't get me wrong I LOVE the taste of meat, but I haven't actually eaten meat in nearly 3 years.
What utter garbage.
This bloke will have ya eating bugs like his boss wants bill gate
Would this make more sense in your native language?
Bugs aren't vegan nor whole foods plant based. You don't know anything about what Dr. Greger recommends
@Luis MFQ If you were eating "plant meats", you obviously weren't following their recommendations. No plant based doctor recommends meat substitutes.
@Luis MFQ None of this is science-based. At all, including your child-like use of appearances to judge internal health. Maybe you are a child? I don't argue with kids.
@Luis MFQ All the plant foods that you've listed are things my gastroenterologist are telling me to eat for my Crohn's disease. Before I started eating plant based, my disease was very severe and I had to be hospitalized. I was in such a terrible state that I didn't need to do any prep for my emergency colonoscopy. After making the switch, my next colonoscopy came back completely normal. No signs of illness.
Animal protein is ancestral food, cigarette smoke is not, So that analogy is not completely accurate
In the Book of Daniel, an ancient bible manuscript, he was eating just vegetable and did better. Forgot the reason for it but, it's in the first few chapters. The ancient people ate some animals but not a lot, I think on a special occasion they slaughtered an animal. The exodus account mention the Israelites missing "the cucumber, watermelon and the leeks" when they were led out of Egypt. Grains were grown and eating for over 6,000 years according to the bible account. Moses wrote Genesis which speaks of fruits given to eat and vegetables.
@@earthwisdomhelps yes, agricultural and pre-agricultural human consume some meat, human bodies are built more to fit the pre agricultural lifestyle, only because is hundreds of thousands of year versus 6,000 years. In today's food industry age, most people consume way too much meat and grain-based processed food.
We don't need animal protein nowadays. Who cares what our ancestors eat when we have way better food options know? And comparing meat eaters to vegans: a plant based diet is healthier.
@@CordeliaWagner who cares about our ancestor eats, the answer to that question is your body, your body is environmental and evolutionary result of your ancestral past. I would like to know what better food option we have than our ancestral food, does it provide all nutrients your body needs? Is it processed? Do you have to eat supplement if it doesn't naturally occur in plant-based food?
Feces on your food is also ancestral food.
Bon appetite, caveman.
Frankly I don't think many meat eaters care about 10-20% risk reduction, I don't even personally see any point eating more plants to have that benefit, I would find the moral motivation of not eating other animals much larger factor. If we had the type of risk reduction that exists by not smoking for example it would be a different story but 20% means next to nothing compared with a diet that is not sustainable for most people, simply because eating only plants the rest of your life is about the same as eating only carboard boxes.
Lol, if anything, McDonald’s burgers are the closest I have ever eaten that tasted like cardboard. Meat itself is mostly tasteless or even tastes bad. Without salt and spices/sauces, people wouldn’t eat so much meat. You probably eat salads and fruits from time to time.. do they taste like cardboard to you? If you use the right spices and sauces, you can make even the boring plants taste good.
You're making it sound like you've never tried any plants aside from grains. Try some dates and see if they actually taste like cardboard. Guarantee they won't
You are to used to junk food if you can't taste normal rwal food. I love my veggies and it never gets boring. I have way more energy than my omni friends and I look half my age. And I am always healthy while most people my age already have developed at least one chronic disease.
I am now gonna enjoy my vegan self cooked Ramen!
@Luis MFQ Have you checked anything with a medical professional?
Or was it just "tummy hurts, time to go back supporting one of the worst industries on earth"?
Years ago I looked up the risks of drinking, smoking and obesity. Drinking plus smoking has the same risk or did at the time of obesity on life expectancy, about 10 years below population average. I am not so young now and still drink and smoke but cutting back on the drinking and am a relatively moderate smoker (the hairs in my bronchial tracts still function, previously on regular cigarettes they didn't but with roll your own tobacco they do). So there's obviously different degrees but obesity is on average at least as bad as smoking, a bit overweight however there's little difference to normal weight.