Learn something? Sure Did , I can say your channel is enjoyable to watch . You teach as you hunt history . Knowledge is Priceless. Thank you for sharing with us.
people tend to be indoors more during the winter than they are during the summer. being indoors more can mean watching more youtube videos. just another factor to think about
New comes to your videos. I love them.so educational.I.m a member of a group. Florida artifacts so I.ll be putting you out to new members there who are always wanting to know how and where to did for artfacts .night
Nice finds Ben! Never gets old seeing artifacts come from the ground. Each one is unique. Thanks for sharing some info on them. I know more about them now. Take care and HH buddy!
Educated guesses is more like it. Never take the word of one man. Sometimes you can't even take the words of a thousand men. A thousand educated men are worthless if their education was wrong.
Thanks for the information on the names and how that piece you found was used. Very cool. Wishing you all the best, good luck, happy hunting and take care.
I love NC Native American history and artifacts, and have researched that history extensively. I'm always interested in see artifacts from across the State, and the choices of materials that were used to make their points from. I love looking for them too. I love metal detecting too, but in my area I find it difficult to obtain permission to do it places where finds are more likely than not. Enjoy your videos very much, thanks for sharing. ❤
Always enjoy your insight. The artifacts are the only link to the people and their story. Our interpretations of the artifacts are just a small bit of their lives. That quartz must be some difficult material to work.
Man O Man, as always that is some great finds Ben! I know Im cool with the artifact videos, I always find them interesting and enjoy watching them just as much as detecting. I also really enjoj the knowledge and info you share as Im always learning something new! When you dont put out a video for a time I sure do miss watching them and always looking forward to the next one. Thank you Ben for doing what you do!!!
Hi Ben, you are such a great teacher!. I have happened upon 3 huge mounds close to my home along the Alcovy river. We are southeast of Atlanta. I have picked up around 300 hundred pieces in 6 months. Points, blades, hammerstones, nutting stones, spear heads , pottery sherds,axes, tomahawk heads pick axes the list goes on and on. I shared alot of pictures with a guy who has a channel out of Mississippi. They find a very different kind of artifact there, they call themselves heartbreaker relics. The artifacts I find are very much like you find. Lots of white quartz. Granite and such. When I shared my finds with them they said they didn't see one single point or anything that qualified as a point. Just a bunch of brokes and junk. I was devastated and stopped looking for about 2 months. Then I found your channel, thank goodness. Is there an email or anywhere I could send you some pics and get your opinion on my finds? It would mean so much to me. I love finding history and would love to know for sure if this is actually a camp I have located. Thank you in advance.
Thank you Sherri! I know the guys at Heartbreaker Relics and they are very knowledgeable. But if they used the term “brokes” then they were affirming that you indeed have found artifacts! Sometimes, it’s hard to convey your thoughts clearly when typing. I’d love to take a look at what you’ve found and will give you my honest opinion. Shoot me an email. benjpope1818@gmail.com
Well I learned something new. I'd been calling them all arrow heads and the small ones bird points. Turns out some of the ones I've found would be Atlatl points. Great video and finds! Enjoyed it.
Very cool! Some of those midsized points are hard to tell. In our area, quartz usually means Archaic period and chert or flint means Woodland period. Not always....but usually.
Thank you for explaining the banner stone. I actually did a little research on them after your last video...and even watched one on how they were made...using sand and a reed. Pretty cool. Any how, I really appreciated the fact that you said "They don't know how they were used for sure..." because that' what my research turned up. But your explanation makes sense...
Kyle Clayton Locating the site began with terrain features conducive to a camp...mainly flat elevated ground near water. Then we looked for higher concentrations of surface debris...knapping flakes. Then test pits. Tried probing but it’s almost completely ineffective in a mountainous area...way to much natural stone present.
Loving the content. I've noticed from personal experiments that atlatl spears punch harder if they have a stone attached to the spear. My best guess on the banner stone is that it was attached to the spear opposed to being attached to the atlatl itself. And a rock of certain weight and value could have been used for the atlatl weight. Kind of like how the Aztecs made their atlatls. Alas we may never know until someone finds an atlatl, the spear, and the banner stone all within context. Anyways, great finds!
Definitely am hopeful that a discovery is made that will provide definitive proof. Why do you think we see such elaborate bannerstones. Most seem utilitarian, but many are so fancy as to seem absolutely worthless as a tool and much to highly prized to be hurled around.
M Moats The Natives needed the same thing we do...food, shelter, water. There will always be water near a camp...even if it’s just a small spring in some spots. So look for the highest level point of ground near a body of water.
Hey Ben great hunt. One day I would love to find Indian artifacts but you live in Cherokee country there so you are blessed. I don’t know if you have ever checked out “Coyote Arrowhead Hunting” on YT or not. It’s out of the Baja of California in Mexico. I really recommend it. He is an Indian artifact hunter and I’ve chatted with him. You guys have a lot in common. God bless brother!
Hey red I own property in Colorado on a stream the Utes spent hundreds of years on. I have found many flakes and a few tools. Since the land is next to a stream with lots of grass and Oakbrush just roughly how deep would you dig for relics that are probably 2 to 300 years old?
There is a lot of factors that come in to play. Really no clue about the land or topography you have, but if you are finding things on the surface, not too sure I’d dig at all.
Going into the field and discovering history like you do is really cool! I hope to learn more from your videos. That's cool how you found both pieces of that blade. Does that happen often or are most broken pieces found with the rest of the being being forever lost?
Finding both parts of a broken artifact hardly ever happens. It’s one of the reasons why artifact hunting in gardens is a good thing to do. Every year the plows do more and more damage to the artifacts in the dirt.
as a kid we looked in plowed fields after a good storm. catawba ohio area, brother found hundreds me not to many. now the old guys across the street had everything including grain grinding stones and a stone bowl shape . even several banner stones. they died in the early 60's and i don't know what happened to their collection. brother sold his long ago.
Hey Victor. That’s the story of so many collections. Hopefully they are still out there being enjoyed. You’ll get a kick out of a find I made yesterday…uploading the video tonight. Thanks for watching!
In spots, some artifacts do erode downhill. But usually it takes water washing over the dirt to move an artifact. Those artifact that don’t end up in a wash or drainage stay in place and are covered and buried by fallen leaves with builds up and turns to dirt over many many generations.
Small pieces of soapstone bowls, but no beads. Beads are frequently found in the valley settlements but rarely at elevation…at least around these parts.
I love metal detecting Ben but to find Indian artifacts has to be the most pure and rare finds ever. Every thing they did was for survival. Whatever they owned they had to make themselves. All of their material came from either animal or earth!
Not every worked piece is a point... The big one you said was broke at the 14 minute mark I say is not broke but is a tool that was attached to big shaft...... It could have been used to dig with or what we call plow to plant corn..... or it was shaft scrapper... more tools near the camp fire than points unless they were used to kill animal..... most are broken near the fire because in the hunt they broke and were discard then while sitting at the fire they would repaired items........ You have to put your self in their mind set and see their way of life...... More animals then than now 100 fold and bigger!!!!!!!!
Stan Webb You make some very interesting points. You’re going to love the next video, because it’s makes your comment about the campfire and what’s found around it sound prophetic! Lol. I have to disagree about the large point/tool not being broken though. It is an impact fracture with a clean break and no attempts to reshape. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I really do think you’ll get a kick out of the next video.
Thank you for the history lesson and seeing some amazing finds ! Take care , stay safe and healthy wherever your next adventure takes you ! Doing well here in Kansas .
Stone tools were in a constant state of change. As they were sharpened they got smaller ..or broke. Many of the artifacts we find have been reworked to the point they were no longer useful, and they were discarded. Every so often we find something that was simply lost. Now add to the fact that these sites were visited and occupied for 1,000’s of years...that adds up to a lot of artifacts. Think of a city park that is 100 years old. How many modern items could you find in the dirt? Now multiply that period of time by 10, 20, or 30. That’s why there are so many artifacts.
How are all of those deposited in a site like that over the years? Is it a potential hunting site that game would funnel through? Or is it a home site? I can't imagine why they would spend so much time hand banging out all of those points just to leave then lying all over tge ground?
Jay Lawler If you think of this small encampment as a site that was visited only a few times a year....for short periods of time..it will help you understand. The main village is located about 20 miles away. When visiting this site to hunt or quarry soapstone...etc. these stone tools would be items they needed to survive. Because they travelled only on foot, they would carry as little as possible. That meant stone tools were made on site and many times left there in anticipation of the next visit. They could bury these tools or stash them safely somewhere. Sometimes these caches were simply lost or forgotten. Then there is also what you mentioned....hunting. That accounts for some of these artifacts for sure. Many of the points are broken. They were broken while being created and discarded on site. Hope that helps. Great question!
An atlatl is a throwing device used for thousands of years before bow and arrow technology. Atlatl darts were 6-9 ft long and were used around the world.
My assumption is that your collection efforts are for resale of artifacts. One of the tragic things to me in the historical record of archeology is if these sites you guys find go unrecorded and therefore will forever have unknown provenance to enhance public knowledge for future record keeping. It is ultra expensive for archeologists to formally excavate sites and yet there is so much illegal and unrecorded histories of excavations going unrecorded. So what are your tactics?
Well...you assume wrongly. I’ve never sold, nor will I ever sell an artifact. I make a concerted effort to keep all artifacts I find separated as to the site in which they were found. I keep a log as well as keeping the property location with each group of artifacts. I understand the concern over lost history and I freely admit the the information I gather from the artifacts is minuscule compared to what an archaeologists would glean. So why do I do what I do? You hit on it when you mentioned the high cost of an excavation. The reality is that there are just way too few archaeologists and funding to examine all the sites that exist. Many of these sites are literally in peoples back yards, most have already been heavily plowed, and almost all of them are in danger of development. One bulldozer shows up and no archaeologists in the world will be interested in the site. Almost all context is lost. So I do my best to educate myself and continue to look for artifacts. The vast majority of Native American archaeological discoveries have been made by guys like me. The Clovis point....discovered by a cowboy with an interest in bones and rocks. It took years but just after his death, archaeologists finally took him seriously and realized the importance of his discovery. I know enough to recognize out of place or very old artifacts. Should I ever encounter that, I would immediately try to get trained professionals on site. If archaeologists were ever curious enough to ask me what I’ve found and where I found it...I have that info and will gladly share it.
@@HistoryHoundDetecting Good! Exactly the kind of perspective and actions which may serve to tie sites, time periods, relics and objects into a more cohesive whole for future generations. I was able to find a number of Native American “oven” sites on a private ranch and I know that when they were no longer in use they were often treated as trash middens by seasonal traveling groups. I also know they are likely from more modern times in the history of Native Americans. The landowners wanted nothing to do with a formal “dig” from a university so when I received permission to dig these my intent was to draw plats and sketch the entire dig locating finds accurately. It was only a falling out between the landowners and my contact with them which prevented the entire effort from occurring. There is no way universities who have to jump through multiple hoops and funding efforts to conduct archeological digs find numerous important and productive archeological sites and even when they do they often find looted sites where items found will have zero valuable historical provenance. It is easy to see on RUclips sites items for sale of these poorly-resourced “finds”. There is obviously a thriving market for these items.
I would agree to a point...pun intended. :) I suspect that spears were indeed thrusting weapons since experimental archaeology has shown that throwing them is inaccurate....but still effective from very close range. I think there were situations in which they were thrown....but thrusting was definitely preferred...or even better, the use of the atlatl. For the most part Native Americans were horseless and those that lived in the Southeast followed behind the Plains Natives when they did arrive. So hunting from horseback with stone points was a fairly short lived experience.
They had throwing spears also. And only the plains indians hunted from horseback which was a very short time period. And horses were used a lot to run animals off cliffs and into gullies. Indians werent like the ones on tv. They were more like cavemen that were very nomadic. They werent covered in war paint wearing war bonnets like hollywood makes it seems. Most of the stuff found came thousands of years before indians had time for anything but survival much less time to make decorative objects.
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Beautiful treasures to be unearthed.
Learn something? Sure Did , I can say your channel is enjoyable to watch . You teach as you hunt history . Knowledge is Priceless.
Thank you for sharing with us.
That’s a compliment of the highest order! Thank you Tom. I appreciate you watching!
Great educational video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you Michael!
How wonderful to uncover such history! Makes it all worthwhile when we’re learning. Thanks 👍
I’m learning as I go. That will always be the best part. Better understanding.
Love, love, love the channel!😍
I appreciate those kind words!
people tend to be indoors more during the winter than they are during the summer. being indoors more can mean watching more youtube videos. just another factor to think about
Great video Ben. I would add that many of the larger points were used as knives.
Heartbreaker Relics Very true! I’ve always considered the large rounded base as an indicator for a blade, but I guess some blades were hafted as well.
@Timotheus Angaleus because they were hafted into handles.
An awesome adventure and a great site. Thanks for sharing your passion with us.
Thanks for watching bud!
man I like watching your videos I been picking up arrowheads for years keep up the good work I learn something every time I watch
I appreciate that Marty! Thanks for leaving a comment!
New comes to your videos. I love them.so educational.I.m a member of a group. Florida artifacts so I.ll be putting you out to new members there who are always wanting to know how and where to did for artfacts .night
Much appreciated Shelby! Thanks for watching!
Really great finds. Congratulations
Thanks for watching Darryll!
A fine video with some fine artifacts. Very educational. Thanks so much for sharing. John, Florida.
Thanks for watching John!
Wonderful finds thanks for a great video!
Thanks for watching Dawn!
I love your channel. Any time, any topic. I always learn some thing new. Thank you.
That’s a high compliment in my book. Thank you
I learn something new everytime Ben! Im gonna keep my eyes peeled from now on lol!!☆☆☆☆
Thank you Norma! I hope you lay eyes on an artifact soon!
Ben, great finds. I enjoyed the history lesson as usual. God bless
God bless my friend! Thanks for watching!
Nice finds Ben! Never gets old seeing artifacts come from the ground. Each one is unique. Thanks for sharing some info on them. I know more about them now. Take care and HH buddy!
Thank you Jerimy! You live in a place that has some of the most beautiful artifacts around. That Flint Ridge chert is gorgeous!
Thx for the great content! Very educational for a late starter in artifact hunting in central NC!
Educated guesses is more like it. Never take the word of one man. Sometimes you can't even take the words of a thousand men. A thousand educated men are worthless if their education was wrong.
Good job brother thanks for sharing. Good luck and happy hunting. Already got your shirt.
Ah man! I really appreciate you doing that. Hope you liked it. Thanks for the support!
Just discovered your channel and its awesome! Even cooler is that you're not too far away from me..keep the videos coming.
George Owen thanks for taking time to watch George!
Looks like a hot spot for relics. I enjoyed this video and look forward to seeing more.
Thank you Kathy! Good luck to you and Les on your adventures!
Enjoyed the video congratulations on ur finds👍
Thank you! And thank you for watching!
You get a chance go to Christian archaeology arrowhead hunting check out some of our videos
Thanks for the education. I live in Northwest Florida and I have found so many different points.
Bruce Rowan You guys have some gorgeous material down there. Those Florida points are incredible.
Amazing finds! And I learned something-I've never even heard of an Atlatl!
Celebrating Appalachia I know you like finding history too....I’d say you’ve probably found several atlatl points over the years!
Always love your videos would love to artifact hunt with you sometime keep up the good work my friend always learn something new thanks
I appreciate you watching Mark!
Thanks for the information on the names and how that piece you found was used. Very cool. Wishing you all the best, good luck, happy hunting and take care.
Thanks so much for watching. Glad you learned something new!
cool stuff! Let's go find some rocks!
I need a SC arrowhead for the collection! Lol
I love NC Native American history and artifacts, and have researched that history extensively. I'm always interested in see artifacts from across the State, and the choices of materials that were used to make their points from. I love looking for them too. I love metal detecting too, but in my area I find it difficult to obtain permission to do it places where finds are more likely than not. Enjoy your videos very much, thanks for sharing. ❤
Thank you Nancy. I appreciate you taking time to watch these videos.
Always enjoy your insight. The artifacts are the only link to the people and their story. Our interpretations of the artifacts are just a small bit of their lives. That quartz must be some difficult material to work.
Quartz doesn’t always make the prettiest of artifacts, but seeing how they managed to shape it at all is amazing to me!
Bless them Indians hearts I've beat on that NC quartz it's tough. Nice video and finds.
Man O Man, as always that is some great finds Ben! I know Im cool with the artifact videos, I always find them interesting and enjoy watching them just as much as detecting. I also really enjoj the knowledge and info you share as Im always learning something new! When you dont put out a video for a time I sure do miss watching them and always looking forward to the next one. Thank you Ben for doing what you do!!!
That’s very kind of you Wally. I’ll always look for history but filming and editing are not easy. Folks like you keep me going!
Awesome! Brother hunter here in East Tennessee ✌
Thanks for watching Scott!
Fantastic new site Ben! Maybe some day I can come hunt with you if Jackson and I visit his college buddy in Sunset Beach again. Only time will tell.
Let me know when you’re rolling through!
Awesome video 👍🔔
Thank you!
Hi Ben, you are such a great teacher!. I have happened upon 3 huge mounds close to my home along the Alcovy river. We are southeast of Atlanta. I have picked up around 300 hundred pieces in 6 months. Points, blades, hammerstones, nutting stones, spear heads , pottery sherds,axes, tomahawk heads pick axes the list goes on and on. I shared alot of pictures with a guy who has a channel out of Mississippi. They find a very different kind of artifact there, they call themselves heartbreaker relics. The artifacts I find are very much like you find. Lots of white quartz. Granite and such. When I shared my finds with them they said they didn't see one single point or anything that qualified as a point. Just a bunch of brokes and junk. I was devastated and stopped looking for about 2 months. Then I found your channel, thank goodness. Is there an email or anywhere I could send you some pics and get your opinion on my finds? It would mean so much to me. I love finding history and would love to know for sure if this is actually a camp I have located. Thank you in advance.
Thank you Sherri! I know the guys at Heartbreaker Relics and they are very knowledgeable. But if they used the term “brokes” then they were affirming that you indeed have found artifacts! Sometimes, it’s hard to convey your thoughts clearly when typing. I’d love to take a look at what you’ve found and will give you my honest opinion. Shoot me an email. benjpope1818@gmail.com
Well I learned something new. I'd been calling them all arrow heads and the small ones bird points. Turns out some of the ones I've found would be Atlatl points. Great video and finds! Enjoyed it.
Very cool! Some of those midsized points are hard to tell. In our area, quartz usually means Archaic period and chert or flint means Woodland period. Not always....but usually.
I always use a walking stick like you when hunting points I cut it fresh from the site im at.
Thank you for explaining the banner stone. I actually did a little research on them after your last video...and even watched one on how they were made...using sand and a reed. Pretty cool. Any how, I really appreciated the fact that you said "They don't know how they were used for sure..." because that' what my research turned up. But your explanation makes sense...
I appreciate the nudge to get the info out there. Regardless of use, they are amazing!
Nice indian artifacts recovered, they are beautiful pieces of history.
They absolutely are! Each one unique.
Great stuff and explanations. How did y'all determine on that property where to start digging? Probing or test pits?
Kyle Clayton Locating the site began with terrain features conducive to a camp...mainly flat elevated ground near water. Then we looked for higher concentrations of surface debris...knapping flakes. Then test pits. Tried probing but it’s almost completely ineffective in a mountainous area...way to much natural stone present.
This has to be WNC - probably Graham Co. - I find a lot of pottery in Macon Co. and not a lot of points or blades, but when I do it is always quartz.
Loving the content. I've noticed from personal experiments that atlatl spears punch harder if they have a stone attached to the spear. My best guess on the banner stone is that it was attached to the spear opposed to being attached to the atlatl itself. And a rock of certain weight and value could have been used for the atlatl weight. Kind of like how the Aztecs made their atlatls. Alas we may never know until someone finds an atlatl, the spear, and the banner stone all within context. Anyways, great finds!
Definitely am hopeful that a discovery is made that will provide definitive proof. Why do you think we see such elaborate bannerstones. Most seem utilitarian, but many are so fancy as to seem absolutely worthless as a tool and much to highly prized to be hurled around.
How do you find undiscovered sites? Are the best areas always next to creeks?
M Moats The Natives needed the same thing we do...food, shelter, water. There will always be water near a camp...even if it’s just a small spring in some spots. So look for the highest level point of ground near a body of water.
Hey Ben great hunt. One day I would love to find Indian artifacts but you live in Cherokee country there so you are blessed. I don’t know if you have ever checked out “Coyote Arrowhead Hunting” on YT or not. It’s out of the Baja of California in Mexico. I really recommend it. He is an Indian artifact hunter and I’ve chatted with him. You guys have a lot in common. God bless brother!
Thanks for the tip! I’ll definitely check him out. Appreciate you leaving me a comment!
Hey red I own property in Colorado on a stream the Utes spent hundreds of years on. I have found many flakes and a few tools. Since the land is next to a stream with lots of grass and Oakbrush just roughly how deep would you dig for relics that are probably 2 to 300 years old?
There is a lot of factors that come in to play. Really no clue about the land or topography you have, but if you are finding things on the surface, not too sure I’d dig at all.
…and check state laws concerning artifacts in your area.
Thank you.
Going into the field and discovering history like you do is really cool! I hope to learn more from your videos. That's cool how you found both pieces of that blade. Does that happen often or are most broken pieces found with the rest of the being being forever lost?
Finding both parts of a broken artifact hardly ever happens. It’s one of the reasons why artifact hunting in gardens is a good thing to do. Every year the plows do more and more damage to the artifacts in the dirt.
Great info! Is that you picking on the guitar at the end of your videos? Beautiful!
That’s my cousin playing his dobro. I wish I had that talent! Thanks for watching!
Nice.
Thanks man....I’m your first sub. :)
Great video! Just found ya.
Bottom Jon Thanks for taking to time to watch!
as a kid we looked in plowed fields after a good storm. catawba ohio area, brother found hundreds me not to many. now the old guys across the street had everything including grain grinding stones and a stone bowl shape . even several banner stones. they died in the early 60's and i don't know what happened to their collection. brother sold his long ago.
Hey Victor. That’s the story of so many collections. Hopefully they are still out there being enjoyed. You’ll get a kick out of a find I made yesterday…uploading the video tonight. Thanks for watching!
Very cool
Thanks for watching!
also how do things get buried on a high spot. seems like the dirt would erode the hill down?
In spots, some artifacts do erode downhill. But usually it takes water washing over the dirt to move an artifact. Those artifact that don’t end up in a wash or drainage stay in place and are covered and buried by fallen leaves with builds up and turns to dirt over many many generations.
Did you ever find any soapstone pottery or beads.
Small pieces of soapstone bowls, but no beads. Beads are frequently found in the valley settlements but rarely at elevation…at least around these parts.
I love metal detecting Ben but to find Indian artifacts has to be the most pure and rare finds ever. Every thing they did was for survival. Whatever they owned they had to make themselves. All of their material came from either animal or earth!
Their artistry never fails to impress me. Amazing people in history!
Not every worked piece is a point... The big one you said was broke at the 14 minute mark I say is not broke but is a tool that was attached to big shaft...... It could have been used to dig with or what we call plow to plant corn..... or it was shaft scrapper... more tools near the camp fire than points unless they were used to kill animal..... most are broken near the fire because in the hunt they broke and were discard then while sitting at the fire they would repaired items........ You have to put your self in their mind set and see their way of life...... More animals then than now 100 fold and bigger!!!!!!!!
Stan Webb You make some very interesting points. You’re going to love the next video, because it’s makes your comment about the campfire and what’s found around it sound prophetic! Lol. I have to disagree about the large point/tool not being broken though. It is an impact fracture with a clean break and no attempts to reshape. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I really do think you’ll get a kick out of the next video.
It would have been a hafted blade and its obviously broken.
Thank you for the history lesson and seeing some amazing finds ! Take care , stay safe and healthy wherever your next adventure takes you ! Doing well here in Kansas .
Hey Steve! Glad things are going well for you.
R u close to a river or springs
so why were all the things left there? seems almost every tool would be either used till it couldnt be anymore or handed down?
Stone tools were in a constant state of change. As they were sharpened they got smaller ..or broke. Many of the artifacts we find have been reworked to the point they were no longer useful, and they were discarded. Every so often we find something that was simply lost. Now add to the fact that these sites were visited and occupied for 1,000’s of years...that adds up to a lot of artifacts. Think of a city park that is 100 years old. How many modern items could you find in the dirt? Now multiply that period of time by 10, 20, or 30. That’s why there are so many artifacts.
How are all of those deposited in a site like that over the years? Is it a potential hunting site that game would funnel through? Or is it a home site? I can't imagine why they would spend so much time hand banging out all of those points just to leave then lying all over tge ground?
Jay Lawler If you think of this small encampment as a site that was visited only a few times a year....for short periods of time..it will help you understand. The main village is located about 20 miles away. When visiting this site to hunt or quarry soapstone...etc. these stone tools would be items they needed to survive. Because they travelled only on foot, they would carry as little as possible. That meant stone tools were made on site and many times left there in anticipation of the next visit. They could bury these tools or stash them safely somewhere. Sometimes these caches were simply lost or forgotten. Then there is also what you mentioned....hunting. That accounts for some of these artifacts for sure. Many of the points are broken. They were broken while being created and discarded on site. Hope that helps. Great question!
@@HistoryHoundDetecting Wow, very interesting! Thank you
What is an atalatl?
An atlatl is a throwing device used for thousands of years before bow and arrow technology. Atlatl darts were 6-9 ft long and were used around the world.
You forgot one use for them also, Just a plain ole knife.
Mark Conner haha! Truth!
My assumption is that your collection efforts are for resale of artifacts. One of the tragic things to me in the historical record of archeology is if these sites you guys find go unrecorded and therefore will forever have unknown provenance to enhance public knowledge for future record keeping. It is ultra expensive for archeologists to formally excavate sites and yet there is so much illegal and unrecorded histories of excavations going unrecorded. So what are your tactics?
Well...you assume wrongly. I’ve never sold, nor will I ever sell an artifact. I make a concerted effort to keep all artifacts I find separated as to the site in which they were found. I keep a log as well as keeping the property location with each group of artifacts. I understand the concern over lost history and I freely admit the the information I gather from the artifacts is minuscule compared to what an archaeologists would glean. So why do I do what I do? You hit on it when you mentioned the high cost of an excavation. The reality is that there are just way too few archaeologists and funding to examine all the sites that exist. Many of these sites are literally in peoples back yards, most have already been heavily plowed, and almost all of them are in danger of development. One bulldozer shows up and no archaeologists in the world will be interested in the site. Almost all context is lost. So I do my best to educate myself and continue to look for artifacts. The vast majority of Native American archaeological discoveries have been made by guys like me. The Clovis point....discovered by a cowboy with an interest in bones and rocks. It took years but just after his death, archaeologists finally took him seriously and realized the importance of his discovery. I know enough to recognize out of place or very old artifacts. Should I ever encounter that, I would immediately try to get trained professionals on site. If archaeologists were ever curious enough to ask me what I’ve found and where I found it...I have that info and will gladly share it.
@@HistoryHoundDetecting Good! Exactly the kind of perspective and actions which may serve to tie sites, time periods, relics and objects into a more cohesive whole for future generations. I was able to find a number of Native American “oven” sites on a private ranch and I know that when they were no longer in use they were often treated as trash middens by seasonal traveling groups. I also know they are likely from more modern times in the history of Native Americans. The landowners wanted nothing to do with a formal “dig” from a university so when I received permission to dig these my intent was to draw plats and sketch the entire dig locating finds accurately. It was only a falling out between the landowners and my contact with them which prevented the entire effort from occurring. There is no way universities who have to jump through multiple hoops and funding efforts to conduct archeological digs find numerous important and productive archeological sites and even when they do they often find looted sites where items found will have zero valuable historical provenance. It is easy to see on RUclips sites items for sale of these poorly-resourced “finds”. There is obviously a thriving market for these items.
Dig those artifacts, but write down that data for archaeologists...
Moto We are. Artifacts are being kept together along with charcoal samples in case anyone wants to carbon date at a later time. We’ll do our best.
@@HistoryHoundDetecting That's incredible. Congratulations!
What archaeologists?
Natives never had throwing spears only atlatles or lances for stabbing off
horse back
I would agree to a point...pun intended. :)
I suspect that spears were indeed thrusting weapons since experimental archaeology has shown that throwing them is inaccurate....but still effective from very close range. I think there were situations in which they were thrown....but thrusting was definitely preferred...or even better, the use of the atlatl. For the most part Native Americans were horseless and those that lived in the Southeast followed behind the Plains Natives when they did arrive. So hunting from horseback with stone points was a fairly short lived experience.
They had throwing spears also. And only the plains indians hunted from horseback which was a very short time period. And horses were used a lot to run animals off cliffs and into gullies. Indians werent like the ones on tv. They were more like cavemen that were very nomadic. They werent covered in war paint wearing war bonnets like hollywood makes it seems. Most of the stuff found came thousands of years before indians had time for anything but survival much less time to make decorative objects.
I been hunting artifacts all of my life on the susquehanna river I surface hunt it's easier.