Sim Update 15 DELAYED! A Beta Tester Tells You WHY! MSFS | Varjo Aero & Pico 4
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
- Asobo has delayed Sim Update 15 again, in this video I'm going to tell you why it's a GOOD thing... (from a beta testers perspective).
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News from Just Flight regarding the release of the Dukes:
Further previews of the Black Square Duke keep coming and here's the latest with Into the Blue feeling the need for (a little more) speed by testing out the Turbine version.
Regarding our plans for release we have considered all options and feel the right thing to do is release as soon as it's ready (offering options during installation in terms of which version of the Sim you are running) . This means that users of both Sim Updates will be able to enjoy the Duke immediately, and once Sim Update 15 releases, all users can simply rerun the installer to install the Sim Update 15 compatible version and take full access of the new Sim Update 15 features. More info will be available on release.
If you do want to be informed the minute the Duke releases you should really head to the product pages and sign up for an email notification by using the 'Email me when available' tab and remember the money-saving bundle will also be available immediately upon release.
Product pages:
Turbine: www.justflight.com/product/black-square-turbine-duke
Piston: www.justflight.com/product/black-square-piston-duke
Product page for the bundles will be live as soon as the products go live.
In the meantime, Check out my FULL VR preview of the Black Square Piston Duke in SU15 Beta HERE: ruclips.net/video/QIxdx6EjueA/видео.html
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Thank you for the update Steve. I always appreciate watching your videos and I am looking forward to fly both Dukes. Aside from the A2A Comanche they seem to be the best GA aircraft as far as I understand. A pity though that they do not seem to have a walkaround with the possibility to open the fuel tanks and reading the oil dipstick.
@@nilsschutte9380 Thanks buddy. Yes I completely agree, if we had a walk around and maybe, a headphone simulation built into the aircraft, it would be perfect! Aren't we a picky lot 😆
Wonder where that 2024 alpha at? 🤔
🎉
Yes, I've,I've noticed a lot of stuttering in VR for a long time now so hopefully that will be fixed.
You've hit the nail on the head with this one Steve, thanks for your thoughts. I've been on SU15 since the beginning and at the start, with the memory optimisation, the frame rates were outstanding and I don't recall any freezing either. It was a feeling I'd never felt before with any version of MSFS... I didn't feel like I had to touch a thing, just fly!!!
Unfortunately, since then, things have gone downhill with every update to the point where, for myself personally, the sim is just too frustrating to even bother with. The constant stutters and freezes shatter any sense of immersion, and it's just unplayable. They have, quite literally, broken the program. I've reported my findings back to MS, not that it's news to them. I'm putting MSFS202 on the back burner for a now, and doing a bit of iRacing, until things get sorted.
Thanks for confirming this, I started to wonder if I was going mad haha. But it seems Asobo have messed up their own hard work (yet again). It's so frustrating isn't it? Especially when as you say, the early betas were fantastic. Enjoy the sim racing :)
Hey Steve, Nice that you use the Pico 4 and different headsets in your videos. 👌
Cheers mate 😊😊
I love my Pico 4!
@@johncrichton4341Me too. It's still such a great headset 😊
@@VRFlightSimGuy Totally agree! However (!) may I ask a question please? What order of software do you use to run the Pico 4 in MSFS2020? Ever since I went over to Pico connect I simply cannot get it to play in VR at all? TIA!
My thoughts on the update 15. I think this is going to be the last update for 2020. This said - I have a feeling, MS is trying to address ALL if not MOST of the key outstanding issues. All of this probably amounting to multiple updates IF they were planning on continuing updating 2020. So - all in a nutshell - perhaps Update 15 will be more of a comprehensive update. Just my thoughts.
Thank you so much for acknowledging the beeta vs bayta pronunciation
It's my pleasure 😁
Damn. I was really looking forward to a couple of months scratching my head, trying to work out what the hell was wrong with my system, only to find the new update has randomly switched on some obscure setting somewhere that only one person on the entire planet understands.
I’ve been on the Beta for quite a while and I totally agree with everything you’ve said. Some days are different to others without doing anything. Have you noticed any flight model changes to your aircraft? Also some of mine have become unflyable. No idea why as I haven’t changed any control settings. Keep up the great work.
Many thanks! :)
Okay a few days into the release of SU15, and I have to say it's pants! New bugs introduced, and more VR stutters than ever. It seems turbulence gets set to max at random times which is nauseating in VR. I got poor frame rates flying down low that I've never had before. And finally the onscreen menu only works intermittently in VR. Come on Microsoft/Asobo! 4 years in, and it's like this?
I will be really disappointed if I am forced to update to SU15 and end up with more issues than I have now! I am also a VR user (Aero) and will be annoyed if I get worst performance especially as they have supposedly improved it!
Unrelated to current video but wholly relevant to a past one: as a novice and someone who has never flown a real plane, would really love to know your U-Shake 6 settings and levels for realistic feel.
No rush on SU15 for me....I just wish we'd get a release date for MSFS 2024. We're nearly half-way through the year already and not so much as a hint on the release date
I agree MSFS 2020 has been slowly been getting worse "Especially for VR use" in their own admission most of the instability problems to sim update 15 is Xbox related they are trying to satisfy two very individual systems with very similar code and the instability we are seening is the result of it "in my opinion". When they first launched VR I could run a valve index on a 1080 and get very satisfying results I now have a 4090 and even though my headset is more demanding one I struggled to get 45 FPS if I decide to turn the settings up.Current PC specs are
MSI 4090
AMD 7800 X3D
32 gig of dominator 6000Hz ram
Sim running on an M.2 drive
I downloaded th8s before I read the installation notes yet it works no problem but again I only have msfs 40th anniversary no addons except pmdg 737 from marketplace
I really hope Asobo does update 15 right as it's all we're gonna get until February/March 2025. Update 14 works pretty well for me atm. I have fine tune it to get stable 50-60 fps above 1500 ft and 40-55 fps at a ground level at 2*2656x2592 (TAA) resolution on my modest setup 5700X3D/4070TI Super/G2. It would be nice if Update 15 could enable locked stable 60 fps at the same setting, but I'm not complaining about performance at it is now.
You can still get something out of the Pico 4. There is an unofficial update.
I think I'll add that the issues are with 4x series cards. I left the beta about a month ago. Still with my 3070 ti and with production release no issues with my quest 3 in vr. Yesterday I popped in my 4080 super, and I'll tell you. I want my 3070 back. The stutters are horrible.
did you clear the dx cache(s)?
@@Glider324 many times.
I’m running 15 beta 4090 Q3 meta link DLSS quality with the DLSS upgrade and the hack to turn off fast jet vortex etc and 40 fps asynchronous warp. DX12
No issues
Resolution?
Something x 4000 … sorry can’t remember the first number lol 😂 I use OpenXR toolkit
Not getting 2024. Spent alota. My sim is iffy sometimes it works.. sometimes it doesn't. Hope they get it right tho.
To be honest, I some kind of knew on thursday evening (2024-05-02) that SU-15 will be delayed again.
How?
Microsoft rarely releases on fridays and mondays, not even beta-versions.
And knowing that the Beta should run a few days in public before it will be releases to the rest of the world made it clear on thursday that the tuesday will come and go without official release of SU-15.
Unfortunately due to the delay of SU15 staff that were going to be freed to work on MSFS2024 will now not be available and this will have flow on effects unfortunately. Better to be sure of the update than being forced into patches though. Brave but smart move Asobo/Microsoft
Why is Varjo and Pico4 the title?
Because they are the headsets being used 🤔
Better to delay than put out a buggy software.
ASOBO!! get it right lol
I think they could release it any time they wish to *IF* they could simply STOP the altogether nutty policy of making every update MANDATORY. Just let us postpone the update if we don’t want to accept all of its glitches
So you’d be happy to lose all of your aircraft and addons?
@@TrueFilter I'm dumbfounded. Please explain what you're talking about -- i.e., what do I lose by refusing to update my Windows or Mac OS, and how would this be any different?
@@Buddy308 addons would quickly become incompatible
@@TrueFilter That's very unlikely to be true, and more importantly, no one's talking about delaying updates for eons, just long enough to know if there are deal-breaking bugs in a new update as released, just as most of us already do with OS updates
Thank Heavens since I have been tempted by the Beech Duke and since the Duke has issues and MSFS 2020 has some issues I can safely put my wallet away.
The Dukes are working absolutely fine so I think you may have misheard me on that one. 👍
@@VRFlightSimGuy well the Duke isnt for sale yet I checked yesterday.
Black Square - Piston Duke
Compatibility: Microsoft Flight Simulator
Coming soon!
@@mikecoffee100 I'm well aware Mike, since I've made two preview videos of them. Release is soon.
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Update 15, BeyondATC, very exciting times! None of it works well. A cacophony of bugs. Hope they all eventually get ironed out, before FS2024. Or will it even matter? 🙏
They finally got me to the point where I could not care less about SU 15 any more. Asobo, just stop messing around and give me MSFS 2024 ffs.
2020 performance is still going to be important for many months
For many of us on the PC with the su15 beta there has been increased stuttering and performance drops when rotating the camera and in general during flight.
Do not release this update
SU15 brings a real improvement in VR?
Because actually is not good at all.
How do you talk without moving your lips ??
I have many talents
Asobo lost control on sim 2 years ago absolutly joke they don't know wat they do ..wat a trash
That's a bit harsh. Look at what they've given us already. No need to be over dramatic.
Lets dont stay on them side they just trash 4 years they try fix this simulator is mfs fix simulotar😅😅😅😅
I've no idea what you are saying Rob sorry.
@@VRFlightSimGuyDont think anything can save this massacre of the English language…
@@strikkflypilot927 🤣
@@VRFlightSimGuy, coat ? 😬
Why? The reason why is obviously that the devs should do another line of work because they are completely useless. So sad....
That's a bit harsh. Look at what they've given us already. No need to be over dramatic.
Ah, gee whiz, I was going to offer to buy you a 6-DOF motion rig to use with this amazing sim, but due to your bad attitude, I've changed my mind.
You guys still play this NON VR game running poorly with stutters, blurring and not hitting at least 60fps? Im done with MSFS. I moved to Aero Fly s4. Thats a true VR game. VARJO AERO, 4080, 12700K...
Your opinion but realistically, do you really need to run MSFS at 60+ fps in VR? Can't say my experience has been ruined with sub 60 fps to be honest. I get 40 - 50 dependant on density of buildings etc. I'd prefer to sacrifice a few fps over inferior graphics
@@alexb6225This is not an opinion, this is the reality! If you run this game at 50 fps everything looks blurry in VR even with a 4090 and 13900k. I can run this game at 60 fps, but blurry. To run this game sharp with good clarity, you will not get more than 40 fps. Some people likes to suffer. I have seen players playing Battlefield 2024 at 50 fps and they were amazed.
@arride4590 it is an opinion, you cant give your perspective based on your personal experience and call it fact 😄 don't get me wrong, you're entitled to share your view, it's just not factual, purely subjective.
I have a 13900k, 3090 and Varjo Aero, it’s super sharp and i get framerates between 31-40 depending on aircraft, I’m perfectly happy with that and it’s a wonderful experience. If you spend your life chasing 60fps you’ll never be satisfied because you’ll be losing graphical detail to gain frames you don’t need anyway.
The go on and program your own game😂😂😂😂😂😂😂