Investing in Real Estate Through REITs

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июн 2020
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    Real estate is a popular investment, but it's not very accessible one for beginners. Luckily, REITs make it very easy to gain exposure to real properties; we explain the security and more in this video.
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    DISCLAIMER:
    This channel is for education purposes only and is not affiliated with any financial institution, although Richard does work as an employee for an investment manager. Richard Coffin is not registered to provide investment advice and as such does not provide recommendations on The Plain Bagel - those looking for investment advice should seek out a registered professional. Richard is not responsible for investment actions taken by viewers.

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  • @ThePlainBagel
    @ThePlainBagel  3 года назад +45

    Happy Friday everyone! The first 1000 people who click the link will get 2 free months of Skillshare Premium: skl.sh/theplainbagel8

    • @slithos14
      @slithos14 3 года назад +1

      Honestly would be pretty cool to see a colab with Graham lol

    • @UmTheMuse
      @UmTheMuse 3 года назад +1

      @@slithos14 I agree. Graham himself is pretty cool, but he tends to attract some pretty sleazy people for his collab videos (except MeetKevin, I have a low opinion of his other guests). Would be nice to see these two together, especially if they (politely) disagree.

  • @gabrielrodriguez9835
    @gabrielrodriguez9835 3 года назад +106

    Damn I was really hoping to get 12 minutes and 56 seconds of that fire ass intro style

  • @CocolinoFan
    @CocolinoFan 3 года назад +193

    I love your intors 😂. You always manage to make me crack a smile.

  • @AxelQC
    @AxelQC 3 года назад +13

    If you buy REITs or REIT mutual funds in a ROTH IRA, you can collect the dividends and never pay taxes on them. You already paid taxes on the money you used to buy the shares, so the dividends and earnings are tax free.

  • @sor3999
    @sor3999 3 года назад +32

    I knew he was making fun of Graham Stephan and then he confirms my suspicion by the end. :P I went through a lot of different "financial gurus" who seemingly are obsessed with real estate get rich quick schemes and their advise increasingly useless. Like not all of us have a millions lying around to buy enough properties to retire off of. But now I'm here.

    • @jackofthecoke
      @jackofthecoke 3 года назад +8

      It's like dividend investing. It's not for people with low account balances. Grand majority including yours truly are best off maxing out our Roths, maybe playing with a few individual picks with strong fundamentals, and investing in new job skills.

  • @davidsdinero
    @davidsdinero 3 года назад +94

    What I love about REITs is that they're accesible to anyone, they're inexpensive and also don't have the stress of picking and managing a property to invest in!💯

    • @fififinance7469
      @fififinance7469 3 года назад +2

      Yes - agree, access is the big sell and while i was researching discovered that sophisticated investors tend to stay away because property is not easy to get into and manage, and you cannot sell a house at the touch of the button. Hence the actual returns are lower than owning the asset outright, and it does become more speculative than it need be. Maybe I am wrong, but I just feel like a total index tracker is a safer bet.. or buying a basket of housebuilders for liquid property exposure.

    • @ablet85
      @ablet85 3 года назад +1

      @@fififinance7469 depends on where you live and rental returns. Where I am 1m in REITs gives dividends far exceeding the rental return on a property worth the same. In fact 1m @ 7.5% dividends is enough to repay 3-4 $1m properties plus the rent they would return and any growth.

    • @OopsFailedArt
      @OopsFailedArt 2 года назад

      @@fififinance7469 it can largely depend on the REIT. Many are extremely diversified already while others are specific to one region or income class (residential). It’s definitely a case of knowing what you’re buying

    • @Magic_beans_
      @Magic_beans_ 5 месяцев назад

      As our host mentions at 4:40, I also like the variety in the type of property I can own. I’m not interested in being a residential landlord, but through REITs I can own medical offices or bowling alleys.

  • @TheFGrox
    @TheFGrox 3 года назад +34

    11:37 The smooth transition to the sponsor. Linus Tech Tips wants to know your location.

  • @menumlor9365
    @menumlor9365 3 года назад +11

    0:10
    literally the beginning of every "Get rich quick" real estate ad minus the stacks of cash in hand.

  • @tradingnewbs3347
    @tradingnewbs3347 3 года назад +17

    "I got one word for you: Real Estate."
    But that's two.

  • @ChampagneCents
    @ChampagneCents 3 года назад +3

    This was a really fun break down and easy to understand! When I learned about REITs it blew my mind, and now they give me the bulk of my portfolio.

  • @KurikuShoTto
    @KurikuShoTto 3 года назад +16

    I love watching both yours and Ben Felix's videos. Even when you both cover the same topics, I enjoy watching both because you guys explain concepts in different ways and I feel like I really understand something like REITs after hearing both of you outline it

  • @InvestorCenter
    @InvestorCenter 3 года назад +13

    REITs are a great way to get exposure to real estate with relatively small sums of money!

  • @tbedre5548
    @tbedre5548 3 года назад +13

    😂😂😂the Graham part..,thanks for the knowledge bro💰💯📈

  • @joe97nsx
    @joe97nsx 3 года назад +3

    Great explanation. Best video I have watched on REITs. I have held REITs as well as direct real estate for a few decades and you hit on a lot of points that cover ownership of them in both the US and Canada.

  • @akaman85
    @akaman85 3 года назад +8

    Great video as always and particularly timely as many REIT's have taken big hits to their unit prices that are arguably well under their net asset values. So if picking and choosing the right ones, there is a greater opportunity now to take advantage of future unit appreciation (to enhance returns beyond their quarterly cash yields). But as always, there is appreciable risk if choosing ones with challenged balance sheets and allocations to properties that are likely going to be troubled for the foreseeable future.

  • @Doom1461
    @Doom1461 3 года назад +3

    Lol loved the Intro and outro! Keep it up :)

  • @williambetzelberger6128
    @williambetzelberger6128 3 года назад +1

    For watching both GS, and TPB I loved the dig. Happy investing

  • @arch.amielpatrickpunzalan2787
    @arch.amielpatrickpunzalan2787 3 года назад

    I'm glad I found your channel through Coffeezilla! You're content is gold man!

  • @jasonawakelin2926
    @jasonawakelin2926 3 года назад +31

    Congrats on buying your first house! Thanks for this video, it was great.

  • @demilishing
    @demilishing 3 года назад +2

    Perfect timing for me! Filing my taxes and have us reits which I didn't know were taxes as corporations and I can't get the 15% withholding tax back. I was adamant with my account earlier in the week that I was able to get it back but now I'm pretty sure I was wrong all along! Thanks for the helpful video and link! :)

  • @dylanl3942
    @dylanl3942 3 года назад

    Haha awesome intro!! I'm loving the videos and this one just happens to be on my birthday! Keep up the great work

  • @tysonkrehnke2835
    @tysonkrehnke2835 Год назад +2

    Hello, great insight. I think it's also useful to note that some "Dividend" paying entities have different tax implications in the US as well. When a publicly traded partnership such as the various oil stocks give you a dividend, it's always first considered return of capital. Meaning you dont pay any tax until you sell your position. Instead payments reduce your basis in ownership meaning you hit a larger gain on sale of those assets. After enough time your basis becomes zero and whatever your sale price is is the gain you hit. Fortunately long-term gain in nature.

  • @arjunsatheesh7609
    @arjunsatheesh7609 3 года назад +4

    Great video and congrats on your new home.

  • @TheRealE.B.
    @TheRealE.B. 3 года назад +2

    Don't put a heavy marble countertop island in your kitchen if the floor beams are wood and the floor is tile. The floor will creep (sag over time) and the tile will crack.
    It's cute how so many "home improvement" trends have the net effect of removing functional value from the home in favor of trendy aesthetics.

  • @elmateo77
    @elmateo77 3 года назад +78

    So if you can hold REITs in a tax-exempt account there's a potential for large profits.

    • @MarincaGheorghe
      @MarincaGheorghe 3 года назад +6

      Not if the stock value depreciates.

    • @firelordsozin3677
      @firelordsozin3677 3 года назад +9

      Own a reit etf ...VNQ

    • @moahmadi22
      @moahmadi22 3 года назад +1

      A stock & cash ISA in the UK or a LISA would be great. I wonder if anyone is actually doing this?

  • @nmorrill
    @nmorrill 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for your always helpful (& hilarious) videos, & congrats on your new house! :D

  • @Grymyrk
    @Grymyrk 2 года назад

    Great job! With that Tim and Eric style intro. It's free real estate.

  • @decapoli156
    @decapoli156 3 года назад +1

    Perfect, as always. Good job!

  • @abdullahalmosalami2373
    @abdullahalmosalami2373 3 года назад

    That intro is life. 10/10

  • @businessguide6219
    @businessguide6219 3 года назад +1

    Reliable and humurous, the kind of resource I'm looking for!

  • @RandyLy
    @RandyLy 3 года назад +42

    I always thought of you as the youtube real estate guy for Canada, just like how Graham is the youtube real estate guy for California.
    Anyway, great video! Thank you for clearing up the difference in dividend payments for REITs from stocks

    • @ThePlainBagel
      @ThePlainBagel  3 года назад +18

      I'm humbled! However I am far from a real estate expert; I only know about it because of my work with other investments.

  • @luisc.2600
    @luisc.2600 3 года назад

    Your videos are gold!
    Congrats for your first house.

  • @pahjammer9173
    @pahjammer9173 3 года назад +4

    REITs in long term Roth's are awesome.

  • @PapaCharlie9
    @PapaCharlie9 3 года назад +13

    7:40, in the US as of 2019, there is now a Section 199a tax deduction associated with REIT income. So the net tax ends up being a little better than the ordinary income tax rate, though still worse (for most people) than the qualified dividend tax rate.

    • @Docklead
      @Docklead 3 года назад

      Doesn’t the deduction only qualify when investments are sold at a loss?

    • @PapaCharlie9
      @PapaCharlie9 3 года назад +2

      @@Docklead Nope. It applies to REIT dividends that are not qualified dividends already nor return of capital. There's also a holding period and other requirements, and it does end in 2025 according to the way the act is currently written. www.reit.com/investing/investing-reits/taxes-reit-investment
      home.kpmg/us/en/home/insights/2019/01/tnf-kpmg-report-regulations-treatment-section-199a-dividends-paid-reits.html

  • @surfie007
    @surfie007 3 года назад +1

    In Australia dividends by Australian companies usually come with a franking credit. So because the company has already paid the 30% tax rate to the government, that money isn’t taxed again in your income. The franking credit (30% of that dividend) is used to lower the amount you pay in tax by the credit value. E.g you receive a $9 dividend by an Australian company which grants you a $3 franking credit. At the end of the financial year you would be taxed $100, but because of the credit you only are taxed $97.

  • @FrankRayLu
    @FrankRayLu 3 года назад

    Keep up the great work ! Nice content!

  • @yyyyyyyyyyyy22
    @yyyyyyyyyyyy22 3 года назад

    i love these videos from you Richard!

  • @darkpowerxo
    @darkpowerxo 3 года назад +3

    someone finally explaining canadian stuff!

  • @Josue.Pronounced.Hose_Way
    @Josue.Pronounced.Hose_Way 3 года назад +50

    1) Great intro. I love it when you let loose a little bit. April Fool's episode is still one of my all time greatest youtube videos. Do more please?
    2) I'm going to seriously put more thought into REITs thanks to your breakdown. The tax breakdown was really thoughtful and well explained.
    3) I subscribed to Graham for like a month but after a while I found him exceptionally annoying. Far greater quality of work coming from the plain bagel. Slow and steady, I'd bet that he'll fizzle out within a few years while you guys continue a healthy upward tread. More subscribers within 5 years, I'm calling it.

    • @dxkaiyuan4177
      @dxkaiyuan4177 3 года назад +8

      Graham has been alright for me so far, but the part of his videos which are absolutely annoying is where he tells us to "smash the like button", and putting so much unnecessary emphasis on it. We all know how the RUclips algorithm works, I'll press like when i damn well feel like it!

    • @Josue.Pronounced.Hose_Way
      @Josue.Pronounced.Hose_Way 3 года назад +9

      @@dxkaiyuan4177 I find him really self-interested and I'm sure he thinks 'All people are selfish and self interested so it's ok if I'm super self-interested' and I'm like... nah man, you're obnoxious.

    • @punisher5598
      @punisher5598 3 года назад +4

      @@dxkaiyuan4177 I’ve read that there is a statistically significant change in like volume when the creator asks for likes.

  • @knightscrusader007
    @knightscrusader007 2 года назад

    Great informative content dude! Keep it coming !!!

  • @chapandonaweb6142
    @chapandonaweb6142 3 года назад +2

    Here in Brazil real estate is the boomers' favourite investment. Guys think a stock portfolio with the biggest companies in the country are too risky, but an renting apartment rented to an informal worker is the safest investment possible.

  • @mohammedislam2582
    @mohammedislam2582 3 года назад +1

    Real Estate!!! RUclips Financial Gurus' golden asset class

  • @adamalladina417
    @adamalladina417 3 года назад +5

    You were referring to RRSP at 8:52 when the words say “tax at withdrawal” in TFSA I believe you keep all income even after withdrawal.

  • @lastempire7302
    @lastempire7302 2 года назад

    Couldn't buy a house in a better time, kudos to you Richard!

  • @jenweatherwax7113
    @jenweatherwax7113 2 года назад

    So good! Thanks for breaking it down

  • @Blue94Jays
    @Blue94Jays 3 года назад +8

    Thanks for including Canadian content in your videos! This helps a lot, never knew we only had .UT suffixes.

  • @ASidd1
    @ASidd1 3 года назад

    Excellent content as always

  • @MaximShelkov
    @MaximShelkov 3 года назад

    Awesome videos! Thank you so much, I’ve been learning so much through your videos :)

  • @aashishthite1163
    @aashishthite1163 3 года назад +7

    Underrated channel. Hope Graham watches this video :)

  • @williamrosa4005
    @williamrosa4005 3 года назад +15

    Something that I am having a hard time finding on the internet that I would like you to cover is how REITs are started. With regular stocks, the IPO process is fairly known. But how does the trust of a REIT is started and initially made public?
    Also, there is such a thing as unit/share dilution in REITs that deserve mention here, as that can erode the individual value of the shareholder's position over time.

    • @michaeleldridge5640
      @michaeleldridge5640 2 года назад +2

      REIT's also have IPO's. Private individuals or groups build a large amount of real estate assets and eventually decide to go public to increase possible investors and to grow assets.

  • @CotySchwabe
    @CotySchwabe 2 года назад

    Best intro yet

  • @DannyLuu
    @DannyLuu 3 года назад +2

    That intro was gold! aha

  • @miltonromero5533
    @miltonromero5533 3 года назад

    Lol the end of the video is the best. Great job dude.

  • @krystalhuhtala7395
    @krystalhuhtala7395 3 года назад +1

    I think this channel is so underrated...

  • @mihaicolescu5309
    @mihaicolescu5309 3 года назад +1

    Man...your channel is great. I keep seeing new investors very addicted by investments they don't understand and think the stock market/investing is a machine that gives them wealth rapidly. They only see: "the price gone up 300% last year, i'ma put 10k in that and by the end of the year I'll buy a BMW with 25k and have 5k to spare"....ummm right.
    Keep up the good work

  • @0728jacobson
    @0728jacobson 3 года назад +5

    @The Plain Bagel, would you doing a video explaining how tax loss harvesting works? thank you

  • @toonces6587
    @toonces6587 3 года назад +2

    See, I wasn't sure about the beginning look but then it took off to be probably the best 15 seconds of my life

  • @connormac2652
    @connormac2652 2 года назад

    Nailed that intro

  • @keithhunt8
    @keithhunt8 3 года назад

    Looking forward to your mREIT explainer.

  • @bersah4517
    @bersah4517 3 года назад

    Great video as usual Richard

  • @matthewsherwin8741
    @matthewsherwin8741 3 года назад

    Thanks, Richard!

  • @callumstirton3772
    @callumstirton3772 3 года назад +1

    Great Video, Could you do a video on the CPP? I'm a bit confused about how it works/it impacts on Canadians' retirements.

  • @870MH
    @870MH 3 года назад

    excellent video simple to understand. thx

  • @jacksonburch5337
    @jacksonburch5337 3 года назад +56

    One word for you: “Real estate” - *That’s two words.*

    • @iangomes
      @iangomes 3 года назад +23

      That's the joke!

    • @MrMineHeads.
      @MrMineHeads. 3 года назад +19

      Congratulations! You have just found the joke! For this amazing accomplishment, you have been awarded with the satisfaction that you can identify a jest!

    • @freddyc1995
      @freddyc1995 3 года назад +4

      Two words for you: /woosh

    • @DragonStoneCreations
      @DragonStoneCreations 3 года назад

      We read it as realestate.... See it's a single word

  • @christopherliang6879
    @christopherliang6879 3 года назад +1

    Right after I bought my first shares of REITs!!!

  • @tullyparker
    @tullyparker 3 года назад

    You are one of the coolest people on RUclips.

  • @davidbrooks8809
    @davidbrooks8809 10 месяцев назад

    One if my Favorite channel$

  • @javiermaldonado83
    @javiermaldonado83 Год назад

    Great video! Do a video about Closed-end funds and BDCs business development companies

  • @shadoninja
    @shadoninja 3 года назад +1

    Good video! Also.... you gotta unpin Edge from your taskbar XD

  • @starpartyguy5605
    @starpartyguy5605 Год назад +1

    Some years back, in the era shortly after the 2008 crisis, quantitative easing left the prime rate at 0 and mortgage rates around 3%. Mortgage reits leveraged 6, sometimes 8 to one, yielding dividends of 20% or more. I was surprised to not hear any mention of how leverage affects the decision process, both for risk and reward.

  • @cosmicmauve
    @cosmicmauve 3 года назад +10

    "What are you 5?" Love it. My type of sophisticated humour!

  • @DamianoFS
    @DamianoFS 3 года назад

    Intro was so good!

  • @Akki420ish
    @Akki420ish 3 года назад

    Great video as always. Can you make a video on Investment Research?

  • @aldjenbrent8
    @aldjenbrent8 3 года назад

    Thank you !

  • @MarcustheWu
    @MarcustheWu 3 года назад +1

    His little "oh" at the end killed me. Like a little puppy.

  • @marcl3928
    @marcl3928 3 года назад

    10/10 intro

  • @marcoinvesting5339
    @marcoinvesting5339 3 года назад +1

    Your channel's literally made me start a *Personal* *Finance* channel here on RUclips. Thanks for the motivation *The* *Plain* *Bagel*

  • @SaeedRanjbar
    @SaeedRanjbar 3 года назад

    Great vide! Fun, informative video with a nice narration. Please keep comparing 🇺🇸 and 🇨🇦 in you future videos.

  • @markinson561
    @markinson561 3 года назад

    Great video!!!!

  • @ericgoto2459
    @ericgoto2459 3 года назад

    love the intro

  • @TCBumby
    @TCBumby 3 года назад +1

    Hahaha love the intro segment.

  • @Karim-fq7vb
    @Karim-fq7vb 3 года назад +2

    Very helpful,
    We meed more intros like that 😂

  • @MrMandel2
    @MrMandel2 2 года назад

    Great video

  • @fififinance7469
    @fififinance7469 3 года назад +1

    REITs give you the exposure for sure - but one of the advantages of the investing in real estate directly is the ability to leverage the asset and also have it as a diversification from your other equity type investments. However, during a correction, a REIT has had a co-efficient that has mirrored the general equity markets... well balanced video :)

    • @jherc12990
      @jherc12990 6 месяцев назад +1

      This is a misconception,reits also use leverage to boost growth and have better economies of scale than a private real estate investor or an regular individual. Paired with appreciation the return is 2-3% better than direct real estate.
      There’s a limited amount of financing someone can do for building an apartment complex or warehouses across multiple states - let alone the management of those assets.

  • @alexinvests
    @alexinvests 3 года назад

    Great intro!

  • @Je.rone_
    @Je.rone_ 3 года назад +1

    Great vid new subscriber

  • @dryoutube
    @dryoutube 3 года назад +1

    With working from home and covid, one has to be even more cautious with buying REITs. Always research before buying!

  • @FunnyAsian00
    @FunnyAsian00 3 года назад +1

    I had no idea this dude is from 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦👍👍👍

  • @charlier1443
    @charlier1443 3 года назад

    You know it serious with the sunglasses!

  • @MrNaufan
    @MrNaufan 3 года назад +1

    The Plain Bagel is basically Techquickie for finance

  • @MOBMJ
    @MOBMJ 3 года назад

    great vid

  • @pongop
    @pongop 2 года назад

    Funny and educational! Great stuff!

  • @nerdsemdividas2364
    @nerdsemdividas2364 3 года назад +1

    From Brazil 🇧🇷

  • @rhyswells8725
    @rhyswells8725 3 года назад

    this intro !

  • @pablocano5544
    @pablocano5544 3 года назад +3

    Awesome video! Thank you. Quick question: does the tax characteristic of REITs also apply for REIT ETFs?
    Thanks!

  • @TheEmin3mFan2
    @TheEmin3mFan2 2 года назад

    I would be interested to see a more in depth video that covers the pros and cons of REITs

  • @ben10mama
    @ben10mama 3 года назад

    I'm personally a REIT lover, in my opinion I'm not worried about the taxes so much

  • @zacharypickvet1857
    @zacharypickvet1857 3 года назад +2

    I Love REITs

  • @andrewdussault2315
    @andrewdussault2315 3 года назад +3

    I feel weird investing in residential REITs given the high rent prices. It feels like I'm just riding the backs of the working class. Should something so fundamental as housing be seen as a space for investment? That doesn't feel appropriate to me. Investing in new housing, maybe, but not just buying and charging rent from existing properties, squeezing the renters market.

  • @AJO09
    @AJO09 3 года назад

    Banks and REITs got hit the hardest in this pandemic. People are still unable to pay off their rent + loan defaults.
    Everyone must do their due diligence before investment. Yes, I’m sure this guy might know what he’s doing, but I had to add my .2 to make sure people understand the market and what they’re doing before spending their $$$.