really like you showing hull design, pyranaha true to their nature, a more proactive paddler, the Indra seem like it will take care of you more, just my thought on design, for me the rail to the bow on ReActR is the edge in front, (bow), would be more grabby in landing in hole, both are very interesting. good stuff
Hi Wade love the vid's man! Any chance you can do a shuttle drive pod on the quarter slice/big half slice market from the ReactR/indra to the Clutch etc... so much choice out there. ✌
My curiosity is piqued by these new designs. Wondering about your thoughts about the “one boat does it all” idea. Seems like the quiver is where the industry is at but is there a case for the average paddler to just having an every day boat…. and do these newer designs fit in that realm?
How dose the manverability, boofing, and confidence inspiring characteristics of these compare with more traditional "full on" creekers, like a Jackson flow, DRX, code or Scorch?
The medium large Indra, may have solved a dagger problem. In my opinion they have struggled with large boats. I hope to try it tomorrow. The Code, Newman and Rewind were not good for me in large. They were competent but boring to paddle. I have paddled the medium Reactor,. I liked it and am interested to see how the large compares.
Would be interested in a short Reactr vs Machno video. While clearly different design philosophies, they are both pitched as creek boats so would be great to hear your thoughts on how they compare. 👍
It was interesting to see this video as I was expecting the ReactR to be more similar on its edges to a Scorch. Instead, it looks more similar to the Machno's rail design.
Well your in that in between M and L I recommend trying the M now and see how it floats you I think you will be fine in the M I personally have not seen the L in person yet
Which boat is least likely to stand up and go up and over through a pour over? Which one surfs better? I think I'm looking at the Large ReactR when it comes out.
Think I will pick up a Reactr on Monday (M). Just have to decide what color red or blue. I will admit I am new to Kayaking and working on learning my roll here in Colorado on the Arkansas river. I do also currently own a code (M). Thanks Wade for putting out great content, stay safe.
Love both boats. Hoping to demo both soon and make my decision. I will say at my shop every reactr I’ve seen… the back band foam is separating from back band plastic. It’s like there isn’t enough glue. Could just be the shipment my shop got but curious if anyone else has noticed that
How about a surf test? Like big carves on a fast wave, hip carving responsiveness, flat spinning? To me it seems like that is what this style of boat would be good for. That is a forgiving general river runner with a low enough volume stern to be able to make corrections to get the bow facing back upstream when you are carving hard and the river is trying to end your surf out to the side and send you on down stream. With most full volume sterns that is hard to do or if you can do it is because they have tons of rocker. But then the carving is ponderous and mushy like trying to carve a 50 pound snow saucer. My local shop is not going to have both of these as demos or I would demo them. Buy both and sell the one I like the least? That is not happening either.
Yes I personally have used it when pinned and I heard stories of paddlers using it to climb out of pins It really helps to keep the deck solid I seen pictures of boats that have been pinned for days and the wall and front deck still holding shape
@@WadeHarrison Definitely. But Jackson isn't #3 in outfitting. They ranked only above old Pyranha. Clearly Liquid Logic ranks miles above Jackson in outfitting.
👇👇 *Links Below for Gear in Video* 👇👇
*Pyranha ReactR* 👉👉bit.ly/ReactR01
*Dagger Indra* 👉👉bit.ly/Indra101
*Hiko Guardian Vest* 👉👉yipyak.ca/
*Arca Works Paddle* 👉👉 bit.ly/arcaworksvulcan
*Sweet Protection Helmet* 👉👉amzn.to/3TJ81ff
*Level Six Creek Boot* 👉👉amzn.to/3vmoDj1
*Kayak Water Filter Bottle* 👉👉amzn.to/41G8qRv
*Gopro 11* 👉👉amzn.to/48yCfFW
*Levelsix Paddling Top* 👉👉amzn.to/43nbWBh
*Level Six Ace Skirt* 👉👉amzn.to/3H2xKI4
*Level Six Compact Throw Bag* 👉👉amzn.to/3sHFHyC
really like you showing hull design, pyranaha true to their nature, a more proactive paddler, the Indra seem like it will take care of you more, just my thought on design, for me the rail to the bow on ReActR is the edge in front, (bow), would be more grabby in landing in hole, both are very interesting. good stuff
Hi Wade love the vid's man! Any chance you can do a shuttle drive pod on the quarter slice/big half slice market from the ReactR/indra to the Clutch etc... so much choice out there. ✌
That’s something I want to do more of in the upcoming year so yes that’s a topic
Can you do a indra vs reactr vs ninja vs nomad vs machno vs mamba vs scorch vs code vs rmx vs super skipper vs loki video
Hahah yeah should have that up tomorrow 😝
@@WadeHarrison You forgot the SuperSkipRR, Mat!...Geeze! 🙂
Before I watch the holy grail of summer videos.. Thank you for the awesome job you do!
Also, which feels faster on the river?
Wow, thank you!
Indra just slightly but very close
Two absolutely amazing designs in their own way! Awesome rundown, Wade!
Thanks a bunch!
My curiosity is piqued by these new designs. Wondering about your thoughts about the “one boat does it all” idea. Seems like the quiver is where the industry is at but is there a case for the average paddler to just having an every day boat…. and do these newer designs fit in that realm?
Yes and no
How dose the manverability, boofing, and confidence inspiring characteristics of these compare with more traditional "full on" creekers, like a Jackson flow, DRX, code or Scorch?
The Flow is similar the others are different
Now that you've been through the Reactr, Indra, Steeze, Ninja, and Super Skipper RR what do you think of them all?
Might have to do a podcast on that later
A pyranha backband that sits high?????? All I needed to hear
Exactly 🥳
High backband is the only thing I dislike about the new outfitting 🤣. Crank that shi down
The medium large Indra, may have solved a dagger problem. In my opinion they have struggled with large boats. I hope to try it tomorrow. The Code, Newman and Rewind were not good for me in large. They were competent but boring to paddle. I have paddled the medium Reactor,. I liked it and am interested to see how the large compares.
Let me know what you think when get a demo
@@WadeHarrison The Indra was not available today so I tried the Zet Ninja. It was a bit too small for me. It is an interesting design.
Would be interested in a short Reactr vs Machno video. While clearly different design philosophies, they are both pitched as creek boats so would be great to hear your thoughts on how they compare. 👍
If I get around a Machno would be a good comparison to show the evolution of design
@@WadeHarrison If you’re in the Nantahala area ever I have a medium Machno you’d be welcome to use.
It was interesting to see this video as I was expecting the ReactR to be more similar on its edges to a Scorch. Instead, it looks more similar to the Machno's rail design.
Thanks Wade!!! These are the two I’m considering buying!
Right on! Let me know what you go with
For the ReactR would you be looking at a L or M in the 200-205lb weight range?
Well your in that in between M and L I recommend trying the M now and see how it floats you I think you will be fine in the M I personally have not seen the L in person yet
Which boat is least likely to stand up and go up and over through a pour over?
Which one surfs better?
I think I'm looking at the Large ReactR when it comes out.
I’m guessing the rEactR but have to test that
Thanks great video Wade! Can you comment on Reactr V Scorch
Will do something on that later
Think I will pick up a Reactr on Monday (M). Just have to decide what color red or blue. I will admit I am new to Kayaking and working on learning my roll here in Colorado on the Arkansas river. I do also currently own a code (M). Thanks Wade for putting out great content, stay safe.
That’s awesome I’m in Denver and will be over on the ARk soon so can have a rEactR day
Love both boats. Hoping to demo both soon and make my decision. I will say at my shop every reactr I’ve seen… the back band foam is separating from back band plastic. It’s like there isn’t enough glue. Could just be the shipment my shop got but curious if anyone else has noticed that
Thanks for the update mine is fine as of now but now you mentioned it I will keep a eye in it
How does the indra compare to the ll delta 90 seems like thats the first time i saw that shape
Not even in the same category the delta is more of old school rounded creeker
How about a surf test? Like big carves on a fast wave, hip carving responsiveness, flat spinning? To me it seems like that is what this style of boat would be good for. That is a forgiving general river runner with a low enough volume stern to be able to make corrections to get the bow facing back upstream when you are carving hard and the river is trying to end your surf out to the side and send you on down stream. With most full volume sterns that is hard to do or if you can do it is because they have tons of rocker. But then the carving is ponderous and mushy like trying to carve a 50 pound snow saucer. My local shop is not going to have both of these as demos or I would demo them. Buy both and sell the one I like the least? That is not happening either.
I might do a follow up at some stage
serious question: has anyone needed or know someone who needed the step-out pillar in a pin situation
Yes I personally have used it when pinned and I heard stories of paddlers using it to climb out of pins
It really helps to keep the deck solid I seen pictures of boats that have been pinned for days and the wall and front deck still holding shape
@@WadeHarrison thanks!
If you float the boats while you measure rocker, it will be more accurate/relevant.
Sure go ahead and feel free to do that 😉
Was looking at another boat, but my shop had the Indra, and I made an impulsive decision.
So far, so fun!
Yeah I feel either one of these would be a great choice for someone that wants a kayak for bigger flows and just all round river running
Excellent info thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
both look a little like the scorch
Interesting 🤔
Seeing them side by side, I’m liking the Reactr. Looking forward to paddling both.
Yeah both have their strengths and either are such good options
You can see how much more sculpted the dagger seat is.
Pyranha cant make a seat to save their lives.
I feel Pyranha did a pretty good job on this one
Jackson?!!! Jackson has some of the worst outfitting. One of the main reasons I'm selling my Antix 2 and getting an Indra.
Hahah well can’t go wrong with the Indra that boat is awesome also
@@WadeHarrison Definitely. But Jackson isn't #3 in outfitting. They ranked only above old Pyranha. Clearly Liquid Logic ranks miles above Jackson in outfitting.