Maxpax isn't even big on cannonrushes, is he? He's mostly playing cheesy builds but not specifically cannon rushes? Printf has been in one coaching video (although countering cannon rushes) already.
I meam cr is just a symptom of poor game design and the skill required to deff is just so much bigger, same with 3 rax or back in the days banelingbust.
@@fakerfish1881 He is saying cannon rush takes more skill to defend than to execute. So if pro-level players (highest skill in the world) played cannon rush, they should win every game since there would be no one with high enough skill to defend. Unless he thinks cannon rushing also has a low skill ceiling which it should be obvious is not the case just from watching enough high level cannon rushes.
@@wowscortcher the saltyness of anybody for little things that are irrelevant to their main life i find hilarious, I actually can barely cannon rush and usually try to macro. Ive never pulled off this type of strat but I love the variety harstem presents in his videos. Shit, Has almost killed Serral with this type of strategy in a 2019 BO7, and single handedly got the immortal nerfed. Are you the barcode at question here?
I recently did my monthly hour of cheese with random race and did a CR to a guy on a ladder... and at the end got commended by the "victim" about the best CR he has ever seen and appreciation. That was a surprising reaction.
It's sad that Has can't speak English because if he can... I can't imagine the horrors Harstem's opponents will face if he has Has coaching him. Lol And Has would make a great guest for a show dedicated to cheesing and cannon rushes.
I feel recently Has has been trending more towards macro cheese, like doing stupid things in the beginning (ie 2 DTs) that make it impossible for the opponent to move out while building super strong economy behind it
@@verdantTree which is pretty wild if you think about it, it started as a cheese by going into DTs first but is actually a weird way for him to go into a macro game. But after using that against Dream and Cure (who are better normal players and more popular), I'm sure all pros have seen those games and have answers to that very specific build... unless Has has found a hundred of other ways to go there. In a recent game he played against Special which he tried for a more macro-focused game, he got wrecked which made me speculate that Has probably has not perfected his unique macro strategy and is looking for ways to improve it by doing actual macro. I can only speculate because I'll never know how pros think.
If you check the sequence before and follow the probe, you can see that it was actually on the lowground, but sometimes the physics / animations (something) bug out like that & it got displayed as standing on high ground. I've seen a couple of SC2HL featured games where something like a Cyclone is backed up a wall together with the rest of the army and get's momentarily pushed up/down a ledge like that.
Always fun watching these videos. Harstem i noticed when ever you do immortal warp prism micro i never drop your immortals to charge your shields before going back into combat. Your filled prism can be right on top of the batteries but you still dont drop them for a sec or 2 to recharge. Is that intentional?
It's good to know I'm not the only one that loses half their IQ and confidence when they're being coached. Dano, nice job making Harstem look like an idiot for an hour. Much love Harstem, thanks for being a cannon rush noob for us.
If there is at least one map that is better to cannon rush than any other map, you should always use all the veto, so you increase the chance for that one better map.
You need starting playing on NA. Lowko just recently got GM, we want to see you cheese him with a filthy cannon rush, and then see him submitting the game for iodis
Dear Harstem, It appears that every single toss player on NA has watched and taken inspiration from this video in the last day or so. As a zerg main, I await a personal apology from you to the community. thanks
Toss didn't get that many chances, it was a good strat mixed in with Kevin's shit micro. The only time an immortal got healed was when he got pushed back to his batteries
I like that you guys really enjoy yourselves and laugh while tormenting other people with the #brokensincebroodwar cannon rushes. You know, we used to have a game in my country. The bigger kids were chasing the younger ones and they kicked a ball at them as hard as possible, from as close as possible. Thats it. That was the game. Just smash the younger kids face as hard as possible. But why did they cry? Didn't they understand it was "just a game"? It's the phrase cannon rushers always say when the opponents flame, or better yet "cry".
Harstwm your micro is actually trash holy shit you give toss players a bad name, I've seen good immortal micro and good voidray micro in high masters, this is incredible
17:00
harstem: "i think it upsets the zergs more if you micro poorly"
zerg: "U CANT MICRO FOR ****"
It was one of those special moments you will tell your grandchildren about wasn’t it
Comedic timing on point.
as if on cue lmao
Impeccable timing lmao.
lmfaoo
This guy seems really fun, would be cool to see another one of these with him again.
I second this.
Ya
17:07 I look at this and I hear Lowko's voice saying "this... is the face of a protoss player... right here."
The comedic timing at 17:04
TurkeyDano, you're a great guy, thx for coaching the captain
There is no other pleasure than seeing tilted zerg... Except seeing tilted terran of course. This is what you live for indeed.
17:00 Harstem can sense the salt
Lol. "cant micro" yet gets rekt. lol.
it's obviously because Harstem is playing eztoss! If Harstem was playing terran then sloppy micro would have made him lose in no time /s
I thought it was gonna be MaxPax but then I remembered him saying that he's a macro player
I thought it was gonna be printf
Maxpax isn't even big on cannonrushes, is he? He's mostly playing cheesy builds but not specifically cannon rushes? Printf has been in one coaching video (although countering cannon rushes) already.
turkeydano is a high-end cheese vendor
@17:02 THE TIMING oh my god I'm dying
Such comedic timing at 17
14:54 Dude those larvae is going to become like 3 hidden hatcheries!
The BM timing at 17:00 was actually perfect. Great stuff as always captain! o7
My favorite comedy series strikes again
Wait for the angry zerg who flamed Harstem's micro to submit it to 'Is it imba or do I suck', not knowing he played against Harstem 😄
The timing on that complain was just perfect
I meam cr is just a symptom of poor game design and the skill required to deff is just so much bigger, same with 3 rax or back in the days banelingbust.
@@tegridyfarms6197 Ah yes, that's why top level protoss cannon rush every game.
@@ntm4 I dont think you understood his argument
@@fakerfish1881 He is saying cannon rush takes more skill to defend than to execute. So if pro-level players (highest skill in the world) played cannon rush, they should win every game since there would be no one with high enough skill to defend.
Unless he thinks cannon rushing also has a low skill ceiling which it should be obvious is not the case just from watching enough high level cannon rushes.
40:28 Coach: "From here it's just a macro game basically!"; Harstem: "Yeah, i don't know much about that either"
That was so fun when the guy gave you crap for your micro. Haha.
superb timing
17:04 just as he was saying "i think it upsets the zergs more if you micro poorly" =))
Next time on the Harstem Hour; Guide on how to become top10 Grandmasters with 50 EPM
Lol that micro flame. Well played, you aren't cheesing if you aren't getting clear signs of emotional distress.
16:57 He is DJing his own laugh. This man is incredible.
I really enjoy these coaching videos, they are a lot of fun.
this was amazing, I loved every second of it. the salty zerg was the best!!!!
What a sociopath. You can't beat zerg in a straight up game and you do filthy cannon rushes so you can enjoy their saltyness. How manly of you :))
@@wowscortcher the saltyness of anybody for little things that are irrelevant to their main life i find hilarious, I actually can barely cannon rush and usually try to macro. Ive never pulled off this type of strat but I love the variety harstem presents in his videos. Shit, Has almost killed Serral with this type of strategy in a 2019 BO7, and single handedly got the immortal nerfed. Are you the barcode at question here?
If I could like a video twice, I would have at 17:00 ahahahaha
The choices here are many! - TurkeyDano
I recently did my monthly hour of cheese with random race and did a CR to a guy on a ladder... and at the end got commended by the "victim" about the best CR he has ever seen and appreciation. That was a surprising reaction.
you found yourself a great cannon coach. good coaching and good presence.
It's sad that Has can't speak English because if he can... I can't imagine the horrors Harstem's opponents will face if he has Has coaching him. Lol
And Has would make a great guest for a show dedicated to cheesing and cannon rushes.
well... parting speaks english.
@@nikkireidification he'll be great and fun guest too after all the cheesing he did on the GSL lol!
I'm really just a Has fanboy. Lol
@@nikkireidification parting is an excellent idea, and i think harstem and him are friends
I feel recently Has has been trending more towards macro cheese, like doing stupid things in the beginning (ie 2 DTs) that make it impossible for the opponent to move out while building super strong economy behind it
@@verdantTree which is pretty wild if you think about it, it started as a cheese by going into DTs first but is actually a weird way for him to go into a macro game. But after using that against Dream and Cure (who are better normal players and more popular), I'm sure all pros have seen those games and have answers to that very specific build... unless Has has found a hundred of other ways to go there. In a recent game he played against Special which he tried for a more macro-focused game, he got wrecked which made me speculate that Has probably has not perfected his unique macro strategy and is looking for ways to improve it by doing actual macro. I can only speculate because I'll never know how pros think.
You should make this a series with turkeydano, like how you do Coop with upatree. very entertaining.
i had to get my cannon rush fix after this
My favorite episode and series to date.
10:24 That's what it's all about right there. Truest statement of the video haha
you mean 17:15... can't just use the game timer as a video timestamp ;-)
More of this please.
do i hear a new series : "Beating Serral with stupid stuff until he flames me"
first he needs to beat Serral
I could watch this all day.
what was that probe at 50:45 seconds it jumped up the cliff or something
Woot! This is my favorite series right now.
I love you TurkeyDano ❤️
50:52 Reaper Probe
Harstem had given me some anakin in this video
Looks like I've decided what to use my Protoss offrace for.
i never get salty people in my games, i love it when ppl start ragin
50:52 Probe doing a reaper jump?
Yeah, wth happened there???
If you check the sequence before and follow the probe, you can see that it was actually on the lowground, but sometimes the physics / animations (something) bug out like that & it got displayed as standing on high ground. I've seen a couple of SC2HL featured games where something like a Cyclone is backed up a wall together with the rest of the army and get's momentarily pushed up/down a ledge like that.
Aahhh, some zerg tears to nourish me.
TurkeyDano you're a good guy. You've earned a Twitch follow. Especially with the Holo profile pic :)
Great guest!!!
YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PHOTON CANNONS
great video mate!
This was awesome, You two are great ^^
Always fun watching these videos.
Harstem i noticed when ever you do immortal warp prism micro i never drop your immortals to charge your shields before going back into combat. Your filled prism can be right on top of the batteries but you still dont drop them for a sec or 2 to recharge. Is that intentional?
A perfect video thanks captain
watching harstem SWEAT lmfao
I love these vids! Pls get him and do more 😆
Harstem had so much fun doing this; does TurkeyDano sound like printf to u?
It's good to know I'm not the only one that loses half their IQ and confidence when they're being coached. Dano, nice job making Harstem look like an idiot for an hour. Much love Harstem, thanks for being a cannon rush noob for us.
Love seeing that zerg rage... thats beautiful
you're a good guy turkeydano
17:02 HAHAHA!!! XD
This is great stuff
Justo para el desayuno :3
If there is at least one map that is better to cannon rush than any other map, you should always use all the veto, so you increase the chance for that one better map.
I like turkey
as food or in general?
I love lamp
You two are so funny 😂😂 that is a great video 😂
This is good content
This was fun
Good info
How do you get that grid view when planning buildings?
You can set that on "gameplay" options
monday is the best and this is the reason.
You need starting playing on NA. Lowko just recently got GM, we want to see you cheese him with a filthy cannon rush, and then see him submitting the game for iodis
good video!
What a great video
I love Harstem
These rushes are so dirty. Edit: turkeyDano is a great guy
Bring back Mr Turkey Dano!
When parting? Pls
The one problem is there is no problem.
Gold
Dear Harstem,
It appears that every single toss player on NA has watched and taken inspiration from this video in the last day or so.
As a zerg main, I await a personal apology from you to the community.
thanks
Just give 'em the proxi spine build, especially on maps where there's no ramp at the natural. Breaks brains like Florencio.
@@jacobunderwood4957 That is a fun build. Good thinking
hahaha so satisfying!!
next guest grim reaper?
CAnnON - cannOFF..
LETS GOOOOOO
love ur videos and i am a cannon rusher my self helped me alot i may improve now xD
What do you like about cannon rushing?
I like him
#stopgaystrat (c)zergs
You need parting
I'm cool
So I guess you have a legitimate criminal as a guest....
Pls dont populise this shit battery broken af
Toss didn't get that many chances, it was a good strat mixed in with Kevin's shit micro.
The only time an immortal got healed was when he got pushed back to his batteries
hahaha the triggered zerg speaking here
Cannon rush is not a cheese it’s a build that requires micro and precision
as hilarious as this is, is it "illegal" to have assistance while laddering?
Why thought? How else do you think coaching works? Xd
Also check Harstem's video with MaNa where he "was being coached" and lost every game! :D
who is this 'pro player'?? i've never heard of him,. never seen him in any tournament, how the hell is he good enough to give Harstem advice on this?
I like that you guys really enjoy yourselves and laugh while tormenting other people with the #brokensincebroodwar cannon rushes. You know, we used to have a game in my country. The bigger kids were chasing the younger ones and they kicked a ball at them as hard as possible, from as close as possible. Thats it. That was the game. Just smash the younger kids face as hard as possible. But why did they cry? Didn't they understand it was "just a game"? It's the phrase cannon rushers always say when the opponents flame, or better yet "cry".
you okay buddy?
mald?
Did Harstem cannon rush you my dear child?
Take your meds
"tormenting people" lmao. This dude is having childhood PTSD from watching a video game. Poor fragile snowflake
Harstwm your micro is actually trash holy shit you give toss players a bad name, I've seen good immortal micro and good voidray micro in high masters, this is incredible
Were you the zerg?
@@hovishead1982 hahaha for sure