Honestly, I'm not too worried about it. Steam Deck still is a very viable emulation handheld out in the market right now. It can emulate most PS3 games with ease, albeit JRPGs...which is just right for me. Also, you don't get the Steam Deck thinking of running Cyberpunk. At best, installing games like Cyberpunk on the Deck is just like "bragging rights" for Steam Deck owners "see, it can run Cyberpunk". You get the Steam Deck for the Indie games and 2014 and below PC games, and mostly emulation. Everything else is just a bonus.
@@bullseye0419 yeah but Switch emulation is fairly new. Considering it runs anything at all is sort of a miracle. Emulators are more of a "how does thing run?" instead of "this hardware is more than enough to run Switch games, but it doesn't?" I'm saying it's up to the emulator's devs to think of a way to make the games run on hardware they weren't meant to be in more efficiently.
@@Altimittkun Steam Deck for retro emulation is good enough. Although I'd rather use my phone then. But it's hit and miss for non retro. Generally speaking, Emulators will always need more power than the actual console counterparts. This reality is here to stay. You should get something more powerful than the steam deck. In the same way, PS3 emulators have been here for 12+ years and Steam Deck still isn't powerful enough. You could be waiting a long time, possibly a decade for emulation to become less demanding and still won't get there. Or you could just get something less limited by the CPU. Plenty of alternative handhelds exist. The Legion Go, ROG ally and many other smaller Chinese manufacturers (GPD, OneX...) are all more powerful than the SD.
@@kennypowers1945 depends on the type of game. Not every new game is trying to squeeze the most graphics out of hardware. Lots of new indie games with simpler graphics that should be totally playable on Steam Deck, and I suspect even some big game developers will want their games to be playable on it due to the installed base, so they'll make sure they can be played at lower settings.
@@kennypowers1945 cool enough with me I have yet to tackle cyber ounk, red dead, I still haven't finished days gone and etc. So 2023 I say to 2020 some title s I'm thirsty to dive into to so it's good with me
That’s my exact thoughts, lots of games such as palworld don’t support it natively so if frame generation and such can be added on a software level it would be huge.
@bullseye0419 On pc there’s games that don’t support FSR that can use FSR through the adrenaline driver app. Not perfect but can be implemented outside of the game.
Valve could have made a more powerful device but it would have been a mistake. The Steam Deck is built to be a balance of power, battery life and usability. That’s why it uses a chipset that performs well at low TDP. No other system can do the same at this level.
@@RRihannaVEVO Im running the oled version. It’s much more efficient than the lcd version. If you tune the system settings and game settings, it performs very well for a handheld. The ROG Ally has a chip set that needs more Wattage to get going but it performs better at higher Wattages, which is less efficient… To be fair, both systems are really good but for different reasons. If you only play AAA 3D games you’re gonna be disappointed in both systems for different reasons. You can’t cheat Physics.
@@Lesser_Than true, I'm just worried about those dead pixles and audio jack issues that keeps popping up on reddit, so just hope when I go and buy the oled it's amongst those new batches that have already resolved these issues
love the video and the content, but I don't think that Palworld is a good comparison yet, its an EA game right? optimization isn't a thing the devs think yet on most EA games, there is a very high chance that in half a year the developer will optimize its code and will let you run it much better :) overall though really love the video and love how you're showing the current state of the steam deck!
From what I’ve seen with palworld is the shadows, for some reason they are so much more demanding than everything else, you can turn up most settings on the steam deck but shadows is recommended to low or off
This will be my pc system for years & everything I have thrown at it no issues, there is no other portable pc for the steam decks price. Plus just lower the graphics & you can run most big games its games that need loads of vram that may be a issue. I'm not a graphic player I don't care if it's high graphics. Steam deck is fine.
This will be my pc system for years there is no other portable pc for the steam decks price. Plus just lower the graphics & you can run most big games its games that need loads of vram that may be a issue.
@@TG_Geekit should be noted, that a number of reviewers have cited small performance increases with the new OLED model when comparing to the original LCD model. It looks to be game dependant, but there absolutely have been instances where performance has increased - most likely due to the redesigned cooling system/larger fan.
It’s an apu die shrink with the same performance target, sometimes games run a few percent faster on the OLED and sometimes games run a few percent faster on the LCD. Just depends on the circumstances.
Dumb question, it'll be fast enough even after Nintendo releases the Switch 2. If you need more horsepower you can also attach an egpu dock and use dedicated gpu. Steam Deck will outlive anything Nintendo releases.
Honestly, I'm not too worried about it. Steam Deck still is a very viable emulation handheld out in the market right now. It can emulate most PS3 games with ease, albeit JRPGs...which is just right for me. Also, you don't get the Steam Deck thinking of running Cyberpunk. At best, installing games like Cyberpunk on the Deck is just like "bragging rights" for Steam Deck owners "see, it can run Cyberpunk". You get the Steam Deck for the Indie games and 2014 and below PC games, and mostly emulation. Everything else is just a bonus.
Agreed but unfortunately, Switch emulation is hit and miss.
@@bullseye0419 yeah but Switch emulation is fairly new. Considering it runs anything at all is sort of a miracle. Emulators are more of a "how does thing run?" instead of "this hardware is more than enough to run Switch games, but it doesn't?"
I'm saying it's up to the emulator's devs to think of a way to make the games run on hardware they weren't meant to be in more efficiently.
@@Altimittkun Steam Deck for retro emulation is good enough. Although I'd rather use my phone then.
But it's hit and miss for non retro.
Generally speaking, Emulators will always need more power than the actual console counterparts. This reality is here to stay. You should get something more powerful than the steam deck.
In the same way, PS3 emulators have been here for 12+ years and Steam Deck still isn't powerful enough.
You could be waiting a long time, possibly a decade for emulation to become less demanding and still won't get there. Or you could just get something less limited by the CPU. Plenty of alternative handhelds exist. The Legion Go, ROG ally and many other smaller Chinese manufacturers (GPD, OneX...) are all more powerful than the SD.
Expecting to play new games at max settings on Steam Deck is very unrealistic.
Expecting to play new games at all on a steam deck is unrealistic. At least things 2024 and onward
@@kennypowers1945 depends on the type of game. Not every new game is trying to squeeze the most graphics out of hardware. Lots of new indie games with simpler graphics that should be totally playable on Steam Deck, and I suspect even some big game developers will want their games to be playable on it due to the installed base, so they'll make sure they can be played at lower settings.
@@kennypowers1945 cool enough with me I have yet to tackle cyber ounk, red dead, I still haven't finished days gone and etc. So 2023 I say to 2020 some title s I'm thirsty to dive into to so it's good with me
FSR 3 will be key going forward, let's hope Valve can implement it.
That’s my exact thoughts, lots of games such as palworld don’t support it natively so if frame generation and such can be added on a software level it would be huge.
AGreed but isnt FSR 3 a GFX option within the game? For example some of the games i have use FSR 2, but its not a Steam update.
@bullseye0419 On pc there’s games that don’t support FSR that can use FSR through the adrenaline driver app. Not perfect but can be implemented outside of the game.
If one guy managed to bring beta fsr3, imagine what a billion dollar company can do.
Valve could have made a more powerful device but it would have been a mistake. The Steam Deck is built to be a balance of power, battery life and usability. That’s why it uses a chipset that performs well at low TDP. No other system can do the same at this level.
True, the issue are the gaming industry not optimizing there games because people dont care and keep on buying higher end machines
Battery life 😂😂 some games last about an hour it’s a disgrace
@@RRihannaVEVO you can play emulation for about 4-7 hours
@@RRihannaVEVO Im running the oled version. It’s much more efficient than the lcd version. If you tune the system settings and game settings, it performs very well for a handheld.
The ROG Ally has a chip set that needs more Wattage to get going but it performs better at higher Wattages, which is less efficient… To be fair, both systems are really good but for different reasons.
If you only play AAA 3D games you’re gonna be disappointed in both systems for different reasons. You can’t cheat Physics.
@@Lesser_Than true,
I'm just worried about those dead pixles and audio jack issues that keeps popping up on reddit, so just hope when I go and buy the oled it's amongst those new batches that have already resolved these issues
love the video and the content, but I don't think that Palworld is a good comparison yet, its an EA game right? optimization isn't a thing the devs think yet on most EA games, there is a very high chance that in half a year the developer will optimize its code and will let you run it much better :)
overall though really love the video and love how you're showing the current state of the steam deck!
From what I’ve seen with palworld is the shadows, for some reason they are so much more demanding than everything else, you can turn up most settings on the steam deck but shadows is recommended to low or off
if it can play Dragon's Dogma 2 with minimum of STABLE 30 FPS and like decent image fidelity it's more than enough
This will be my pc system for years & everything I have thrown at it no issues, there is no other portable pc for the steam decks price. Plus just lower the graphics & you can run most big games its games that need loads of vram that may be a issue. I'm not a graphic player I don't care if it's high graphics. Steam deck is fine.
This will be my pc system for years there is no other portable pc for the steam decks price. Plus just lower the graphics & you can run most big games its games that need loads of vram that may be a issue.
Is this a oled?
Mine is not, but the power and performance is the same
@@TG_Geekit should be noted, that a number of reviewers have cited small performance increases with the new OLED model when comparing to the original LCD model. It looks to be game dependant, but there absolutely have been instances where performance has increased - most likely due to the redesigned cooling system/larger fan.
@@TG_GeekThe performance is not the same between the lcd and oled.
It’s an apu die shrink with the same performance target, sometimes games run a few percent faster on the OLED and sometimes games run a few percent faster on the LCD. Just depends on the circumstances.
Pal isn't even optimized. You got the wrong expectations for the device.
it’s $600 and can’t even play new games
Dumb question, it'll be fast enough even after Nintendo releases the Switch 2. If you need more horsepower you can also attach an egpu dock and use dedicated gpu. Steam Deck will outlive anything Nintendo releases.
You dont have the voice for youtube
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Damn Daniel why you did Jimmy like that