I agree with you 💯. Haslab projects should be reaching for the stars. How is it that wrestling action figures have a diverse vehicle collection but Classified only has a couple of bikes and an air chariot?
I tried to avoid collecting GI-Joe Classified figures, I was content with just watching collectors on RUclips review them but... I got weak. So I bought 20 in one day and now I guess I collect Classified. These suckers are $34.99 in Canada or more for harder to get ones, at least we have ToyRus stores still up here because the Walmart I went to on the weekend had 2 figures total. It's going to be an online adventure to try and get what I want for a decent price!
Sheesh 12 Im a lil younger i remember 52 channels and watching the TV guide channel scroll so damn slow just to see what was on. Or even the lil TV guide magazines weekly.
Totally feel you on this. I will say, though, if the VAMP were to be a Haslab, here is what I'd want - the basic VAMP with the top half being removeable (green with guns on the back, gas tanks in the back, shovel on the hood, tow wench) and Clutch, plus blast effects and potential light/sound. Then, the VAMP Mk 2 top half (tan with the metal door covers and rocket launcher on the back) with Tan Clutch (or other figure), and Level 3, the Cobra Stinger top half (rocket launcher on the back with four rockets and blast effects and Cobra Stinger Driver). That would be three vehicles in one with three figures (including both Joes and a Cobra) and blast effects. Not saying it would still be worth a Haslab, but it would be a neat project with the ability to army build.
Mattel released a WWE Wreckin Rig Crane for $50 - basically a tractor trailer cab with a small crane mounted on the bed of it. Customizers had a field day turning that thing into a troop truck for their 6" Cobra troops!
Vamp is my most wanted vehicle, but not my most wanted Haslab, great video and I 100% agree, hoping we end up with a Mobat or some kind of base for this
I really really really want a Ferret, the Vamp is OK & it does go nicely with the existing bike, but only as it will enable a Cobra Stinger Jeep to get made as it's the same basic thing.
😂😂😂 Haslab is going to be a Dragonfly, and the VAMP will in the line 2024 for an INSANE price.....😂😂😂 I cannot wait for future videos. Save this comment.
The only thing that scares me about the Valaverse vehicle is how much Rezvani charged him for that license. Even if he's a toy design genius who figured out every cost cutting method he could use, if they charged him a bunch for the license, he's got to pass that cost along. Compared to, for example, the Ramen Toy car, his vehicle will be simultaneously larger and more complex, AND a licensed toy. If he's not significantly more expensive then they are, they're ripping us off (intentionally or not)
I hope that license fee doesn't kill the vanguard as you stated but I think vala would account for that and if it was to bad from the door he wouldn't of accepted it or continued on with production so hopefully it will be cheaper then any other military vehicles or cars being offered to us by others.
some car companies have cheaper licensing cost because they view is as marketing for the masses. Ferrari from what I have read has the most expensive licensing which cost Hot Wheels around 5mil a year. I don't think Rezvani being a very niche car manufacturer would ask ridiculous licensing cost. company i work for currently has license from Toei to produce certain products and the licensing cost wasn't that outrageous to be honest.
@@FrankW1029 probably not, but it will be there. If they're smart, I agree with you, they can chalk it up as a marketing cost and charge him virtually nothing. It's a cute thing to have at trade shows or whatnot too, if they choose to go that route. But there are absolutely companies, as you note Ferrari, who think their shit don't stink and might ask for a mint. Again, I don't think that's likely, but he will have some cost to amortize from using their license rather than opt to create a vehicle from wholecloth. Hasbro won't have that with whatever they do for GI Joe, but we already know that their online model is more about asking us to pay the most they think we will, rather than as a cost-plus pricing model. That Ghost Rider car proved that, the work was not commensurate with that amount they were charging us. They learned from that, but I promise, they didn't learn much. Remember, these douche bags just sent Pinkertons to the home of a Magic the Gathering RUclipsr because they sent him cards they hadn't released yet. They literally sent a goon squad to intimidate him and his neighbors. Personally, that was a last straw for me. If they offered a life sized Vamp, with a $15K gas card included, 8000 rds of ammunition for the guns, and Cover Girl herself as my personal chauffeur, I wouldn't buy it. I know others won't necessarily draw that line, whatever, but I hope the folks that do try to buy it at least make sure it's worth their money.
@@kiltedcripple hahahahaha.... agreed. I think currently i only have pizza spiderman, doom, and the tiger stripe wolverine that's a ML beside most others that are mcu and live action stuff that import won't make. Wong, mcu killmonger+watson (can't think of his mcu character name right now), iron monger+obie, hugh jackman wolverine, movie cable, mcu crossbone, and that crappy negasonic teen bs. I think that's about all the ML I have.
Vala mentioned in one of the live streams that he wouldn't have continued the production if the math didn't come out to what he thought was reasonable and affordable.
"A billion dollar company doesn't need to force you to pay for tooling for anything." That right there is why I will never back a Haslab project. That's e-begging. If they can't make it happen without crowd funding, I don't need it.
I like the classified line more than anything else Joe Hasbro is putting out, but have NEVER seen a wave hit my local shelves. 90% of my figures had to be found online. They need to fix distribution STAT. Along with QC, paint apps, and every other damn thing.
I wish they'd do vehicles like Mattel did with the Justice League movie Batmobile. A tricked out RC with phone app version and a cheaper plastic shell for display one.
Zartan will come with his swamp skier and he will color change ( from the sun) for 90$ probably as a Con exclusive or close to Joefest to try to shit on Bobby V.
@@rawtalkrealdeal9985 Probably over $100. They want a 3 3/4 Biker scout and speeder bike for $5 more than what they were asking for a black series version.
True. Haslab stuff should be big, and special things. Stuff that probably won't work in stores like, an Avengers quinjet or a GI Joe command center for 1/12 scale. Not for things that they could sell for $75-100 at retail.
I think the smallest-sized Joe vehicle we get with HasLab is the G.I. Joe Snow Cat or Cobra Stun. A V.A.M.P., Striker or Stinger is something that they can do easily and far cheaper in mass production and would all sell well. That said, my guess for the next Classified HasLab will be the Wolverine or the H.A.V.O.C.
I like Classified and Action Force. Pretty much given up on every other line. I agree that a Vamp wouldn’t be the best choice and would be better served as a pulse release to test the waters on that model. I would like to see something like the Mauler tank or something of that scale upgraded. I think the bases start risking being too big unless they do something like the 2003? Pit vehicle, which could be cool. But until I have the Hiss in hand, I don’t think I can even think about another HasLab especially with also having the Roboskull from Skeletron coming hopefully this year. I might just be done with vehicles due to the space in my apartment.
@@Strateggo I do based on the continued updates from Skeletron and them getting the Skelladrones out earlier than anticipated. We just hit the original estimation of delivery and Ben is pushing for it to be released this year
I think they have addressed the QC issues. A lot of folks have ordered the latest wave and they're a return to greatness. I suspect the new Haslab will be the HAVOC. They've been largely going down the Animated Movie road. In the animated movie they used HAVOCs against HISS tanks.
How about a Terror Drome (no please don't make that I have no where to put even a normal one). As for Classified non-figures the small playsets seem an obvious choice (like the Cobra Battle Bunker)
Imagine if HASLAB issued a classified Defiant shuttle as big as a Kei car! And don’t even get me started with the U.S.S. Flagg? That monster would be bigger than a four-vehicle garage!!!
I could see myself supporting a Haslab Dragonfly with Wild Bill. But not a basic vehicle. Especially when there are cheaper options out there for basic 1/12 scale vehicles. A dream project for me would be a 1/12 scale base to display all my figures.
What I love to see is hasbro complain about building vehicles for Gi joe classified six inch line and then I walk down the girl toy aisle and see Vans, cars, motorcycles, boats, playsets all for dolls that are larger then 6 inch!! Come on, make damn vehicles already and stop the excuses hasbro.
Bruh, in the 80s Tonka trucks at 1/12 scale weren't that expensive, and those were metal, not plastic. I'm waiting for Jada Toys to actually make a 1/12 plastic vehicle, fingers crossed, that won't be too expensive, but at the same time, I ain't holding my breath
tbh. if they do a regular release of a VAMP or any of the jeep type GIJOE vehicles and put it for pre-order on PULSE... its going to be sold out - i probably would get at least two.
I don’t need all the tiers, just make it pulse exclusive (if you won’t do retail) and we will buy them! My dream project is the W.H.A.L.E. for G.I. Joe. X-Wing for Star Wars. The Flagg or Death Star are dream projects that sure we want, but it would be so expensive it would never happen.
I hear you, Bro. I think we all miss the world before the internet. Still, like you said, its a wonderful time to collect these toys. Love Toy Topics and the Mr Rogers song is perfect. Five Star Video! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@@ArticulatedNinja honestly I think what you're saying is accurate price wise for a smaller company like Valaverse right now. I think he puts Hasbro under pressure if he comes in at $200 or under $200. I don't think Haslabs are necessary now because once the Sail Barge, Unicron and Proton pack were done then that was about it. Everything since could be retail releases.
Haslab should be the FLAGG or Defiant or at least a GI Joe base. if they wanna do smaller vehicles it should be multiple vehicles the HISS should've came with a ASP in tow flanked by a Stinger jeep and ferret and stretch goals should have been a CLAW and a FANG copter and all the vehicles should've had a driver at least (and I'm talking about Classified scale stuff)
I don't support crowd funding projects for vehicles. I shop for exclusive characters. I made a decision to focus on figures and effects pieces above everything else. I have a few small vehicles and honestly Serpentor with his air chariot is the only vehicle that I have desired but Hasbro made him difficult to get so I put it out of my mind. I still enjoy my 3 3/4" figures and I don't believe that there have been any vehicles produced at that scale either (high quality or dream projects). Hasbro is finally adding to their Rider's line with the Hawkeye and Sky cycle. I will get that unless Hasbro makes it difficult to obtain. I would happily support a company who produced a line of vehicles at a decent price but no company is willing to do it for now. Great video and thanks for being a positive part of the community 😊
My sentiment PRECISELY! I 100% agree. They shouldn't drip-feed us mid-size vehicles as exclusives. There should be a half dozen vehicles on the retail shelves by now. Haslab should be for huge, premium items. Nothing smaller than a Havoc or Rattler. Haslab should be for vehicles like the Tomahawk helicopter, Moray hydrofoil, or Night Raven spyplane.
I actually agree. While I'm sure there's a big demand for the VAMP, Haslab should be reserved for something big with tooling that can't be used again. With the VAMP, they can certainly reuse the tooling to make a Cobra Stinger, or even a Tiger Force or Dreadnok version.
My buddies and I were just talking about this! This HASLAB mold will spawn 4 vehicles. 1. VAMP 2. Stinger 3. Tiger Force Vamp. 4. Python Patrol Stinger. It's coming. Collectors pay for the tooling and they reuse the mold. I can see it on the horizon, Ninja. It's gonna happen 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I'm expecting the Wolverine tank, or more likely a helicopter with Wild Bill. Especially if they are playing it up as a mach in power for the his tank.
I think the GI Joe cartoon had some giant robots. Maybe Hasbro could try making one of those? It would be like the Marvel Legends Sentinel. Then again, it's a Hasbro product, it will most likely crumble in your hands within five minutes of opening.
Going to laugh my ass off if they offer up a Vamp and they ask for $400, and the thinking? 4 doors, 4 seats, 4 wheels, and 4 front lights and 4 rear lights-taha…$400-Br’OH, That’s a Steaaaal man. Not that there won’t be folks who think…that’s a legitimate cost for their money.
For me a dream project is a new Phantom X-19 that's all black with no day-glow missles. Another dream project they'll never do is "corrected" Joes. The originals are cool, but ever-so-slightly badly-proportioned, and it's all in the legs. Adding 1/4" to the legs to make the figures an even 4" would make the figures look significantly better-scaled while still being small enough to make use of original vehicles.
Hasbro may be scaling back on their haslab vehicle sizes because of their costs vs how much $$$ they can get from customers for their products. And yes some people are gonna buy into it because they feel it's awesome...to each their own. What I like ninja is how you show us alternatives to the mainstream whether it's a actual product (for example from valaverse) or something you find at the store and customize it to hold 6" figures. I think that's where your videos just come off cool as hell. But a USS Flagg...in 6" scale?! I can't even imagine. Nope. That would be insane. 😂
If HasLab did a full Classified scale GI Joe HQ or Cobra Terror drome that would be a dream project provided it was all plastic and had all the working bits like the originals did. A truck sized vehicle should be something available either through assorted retailers etc. or as an online exclusive to non-storefront places like BBTS and so on but NOT a limited Hasblo site only exclusive. Just my 2 cents
TRUTH! Keep the cost under at least $250 and they'll see profits more consistently.🤷🏾♂️ Our pockets are not gonna be perma-full so they need to start eating some of the costs on their end. . .
Wouldn't mind wild bill and his chopper for the haslab, but I have low expectations at this point. But with the reveal of sarge, I wouldn't be surprised if they shoved a triple t at us. Which isn't really a dream project I guess. But once again, low expectations
I agree......right now I’m not really interested in a HasLab project because we don’t even have the Hiss Tank in hand yet, especially to review, so no matter what Hasbro comes with in June for the GIJOE CLASSIFIED LINE , they can count me out , because I don’t even have my Hiss Tank , ......Hasbro we want our Tank first.
1st Mr.Rogers was a really good choice! Brought back ALL the feels 😂 2nd June is going to be a very BIG month for reveals, let’s hope Hasbro learned a lesson 🤞🏽
I think you have hit it right on the nose. I am a new collector and I have enough trouble affording figures as they are let alone these hyped up crowd funded releases.
As far as "dream project", I cant even imagine how big a classified USS Flag would be, or how much they would charge for it. I know it would be a pass for most, just because of space and cost, but damn, it would be so awe inspiring to see a massive aircraft carrier on display in the center of a toy room!
After this summer, Hasbro will primarily have 2 options to remain competitive: 1. Improve the overall quality and value of their products or 2. Reduce their prices. Cause when collectors see a Marvel Legends fig for 28.99 and compare it to Savage crucible, Valaverse and 4Horsemen where for a few dollars more you get more bang for your buck it doesn't make sense to buy that Marvel Legends or Black Series fig. And Jada coming out with 25.99 action figure? McFarlane doing what he can to remain below 25.00 ... Hasbro's going to have issues if they don't change their business strategy.
The vamp is /was a basic vehicle to match our HMMV ! It better not be a crowd funder, lol. A terrordome at scale, a legit fortress for the baddies. They need a "W" a lot of fans have been pushed to be even more selective or play the long game /price drop
Those jada toys street fighter figures for the price I thought has to be a mistake. That the preorder price was just a down payment. Figured it had to be for for mafex prices at least for the articulation and detail they show. But no looks like these figures really are going for $24.99 for the amazing figures with detail, looks like awesome articulation like storm collectibles mortal combat articulation and these jada toys come with awesome accessories. For real $24.99. Just hope the quality control is good. Heck yeah I got all them on preorder and I’m not a huge street fighter fan. But these figures are to good for the price to pass up.
No matter what you collect and how you collect just have fun collecting , I would like to see haslow do the rolling thunder I remember getting that beast for Christmas.
Jeez! I want a Fin Fan Foom in Galactus/Sentinel scale as a dream project, PLEASE! I would love to see a Devil Dinosaur 3 Pack Devil with two interchangeable Heads (Kirby classic & Modern) with Moon Boy and Moon Girl. Not as a Haslab, but an art the store release. They had one on display at the SDCC a year or two before they dumped the line. Heartbroken overthat happening! 💔
I agree with your point that Haslab should be for dream projects. What I continue to find completely bizarre is the notion that certain things are "cash grabs". It's all a "cash grab". A business's sole reason to exist is to make money. Also perplexing is the idea that Hasbro is making profit by holding onto Haslab backers money. They're not a venture capital firm, they're a toy company. That money is getting spent. Now, even if they are doing that, with say stock buybacks or the like- again, they are a business who only exist to make money. Anything they do to further that goal should not be surprising. To be appalled at profit making business practices, especially of larger companies, is like being angry at water for being wet.
Good talk as always. Yeah that sail barge had a top, middle, bottom and sails. I think it will be a Wolverine for Cover Girl. In the teasers that came out it said, "something that could go up against the HISS, and it said something about a "cover up" One of the tiers could be an added bridge layer part to convert it to a bridge layer vehicle. I think an aircraft would be doper though. Haven't once gotten a Haslab. Bought a Galactus for someone in a live chat though.
Bruh, you just be talkin'. People take this stuff too seriously, especially opinions. Nothing you've said was outrageous. For me I've never bought into the Haslabs as I'm not a huge fan of anything that's been put out. But put out say a fully tooled, modular diorama set in actual plastic and I would be all over that. My dream project would be basically an Exteme Sets backdrop but fully detailed with a bunch of accessories. Give it some character but not make it specific to any particular toy line and it would go so fast at almost any price point.
I agree short and simple, I rather a base that feels like a Haslab, sadly my theory is it's gonna be a Snowcat from posts, really want something bigger
Bruh, I still don’t see why hasbro NEEDS to do a Haslab. I do think at Vala Con, Bobby is going to announce Rezvani really bought in and that price will be under $150.
Sheesh man could you imagine less than 150 no crowdfunding and it's a complete vehicle ready to go. That's an army building price ofcourse the cheaper the better but other companies are not giving us anything for less then close to 200 now days.
GI Joe has been in my life 50 years, it's my main collection. However with that being said, I can see Hasbro being petty enough to do a Vamp since Bobby is doing his truck for Action Force. And it's more sad commentary on Hasbro. A GI Joe Pitt (Command Center) in classified scale would actually get my attention, though I doubt I'd still do a crowd funder for it.
i want like a hand pack or something for classified. acting like none of these G.I. Joe figures don't use fist. gun packs, hand packs, ect. give my boy snake eyes some fists or throwing star hands. he is a ninja. give him some damn hands.
Unfortunately, I think Hasbro is not planning to release any vehicles for general release except micro vehicles (motorcycles, trouble bubble, etc). So anything bigger will be "dream projects ".
I remember getting my sky striker back in the day at target , and the crazy big black stealth jet back in the day. meeting up with friends cause they had both bases cobra and Joe's. I miss those days. It's kind of why I started collecting JoyToy mecha..cause I like 1/18 scale mechs and I could just buy them. I mean I know they cost alot but I like the attention to weathering and detail they do.
The same factory in China makes the joytoy and Hasbro products. It’s like China is purposely making the Hasbro products inferior to the Chinese owned joy toy brand.
I just started picking up JoyToy's 1/18 scale line but I'm being really selective with it and finding things on sale or on E-bay at 25% off or more. Those $125+ mechs are gorgeous, but I have a hard time justifying it to my bank account.
I agree the dream aspect of the Haslab experience has all but disappeared. The sail barge, Galactus, Sentinel and Unicron were dreams for collectors of each fandom. The rest were okay products but not for the money they asked us to spend. I have supported a few Haslabs, not going to lie. I hate myself for it, but given Hasbro's track record I didn't see any other way to get a HISS or a Razor Crest or a Skystriker. I know it's robbing Peter to pay Paul but at least I'm selective of what I support.
Personally, I don't care about Haslab. I only regret missing out on Galactus (kinda) other than that I don't believe in spending on my to a corporation that does crown funding. As far as Valaverse, I don't needs light for a military vehicle. From what I've seen so far if add spring loaded missile with that working winch and charge in the $150 range, that would be a game changer. I believe he could it and I cany wait to see finished result.
Zero need for funding. That’s just a psychological ploy. A mix of FOMO and prestige. All they need do is list up three possibilities and do a fan vote. That way you’d even get a mild insight into what the fans are looking for as well as how many engage and vote.
Another great video Ninja!! I never really thought about the offerings Haslab's started with compared to what they're offering now. Will be interesting to see what they offer for the next Legends Haslab.
Doubt it’s a Vamp, it will be a tank or Dragonfly. And let’s be fare the Joe Team hit a home run with the HISS, so let’s give them a chance to show what they have for us this second time.
@@ArticulatedNinjaHasbro could *easily* do a mass produced, stripped-down version of the H.I.S.S. Tank for retail. Kick the multiple figures down to just the pilot, lose the missile racks, swappable armor plating, different cockpit glass, lights, and even the articulation on the tank treads and they've got something sellable between $75 - $100 (though arguably much less) that's still detailed because they're using the original tank production moulds. They wouldn't be able to keep them on shelves.
I don't have the space for (too many) vehicles, or Sentinels. I'm still astonished we haven't seen Prime Sentinel army builder packs using the molds from the Haslab. And I call Haslab a pre-order with minimum goal, Mattel did too, back when they funded Grayskull.
Ninja I agree, if they make it a vamp I will be disappointed big time. I can see them throwing in add-ons like a towable H.A.L. or missle system to make up for it but it really needs to be a pulse or retail release. But tbh I want something crazy, Dragonfly, Havoc or even a whale, not a overgrown jeep. Over all really enjoyed hearing your thoughts & hope you do more. Take care.
I agree with you 💯. Haslab projects should be reaching for the stars. How is it that wrestling action figures have a diverse vehicle collection but Classified only has a couple of bikes and an air chariot?
I tried to avoid collecting GI-Joe Classified figures, I was content with just watching collectors on RUclips review them but... I got weak. So I bought 20 in one day and now I guess I collect Classified. These suckers are $34.99 in Canada or more for harder to get ones, at least we have ToyRus stores still up here because the Walmart I went to on the weekend had 2 figures total. It's going to be an online adventure to try and get what I want for a decent price!
lucky guy, I have to pay $45 + tx here in Quebec...
it s $50 a pop!
BRUH...A LOT of times I miss the world before the internet! I'm as low-tech as it gets and still remember when there were only 12 t.v. channels
Sheesh 12 Im a lil younger i remember 52 channels and watching the TV guide channel scroll so damn slow just to see what was on. Or even the lil TV guide magazines weekly.
@@ArticulatedNinja Lol...yeah I'm pretty old! Old enough to remember THE very FIRST MTV video!
I feel like if they do, it's not stupidity, but greed and profits over the people.
Totally feel you on this. I will say, though, if the VAMP were to be a Haslab, here is what I'd want - the basic VAMP with the top half being removeable (green with guns on the back, gas tanks in the back, shovel on the hood, tow wench) and Clutch, plus blast effects and potential light/sound. Then, the VAMP Mk 2 top half (tan with the metal door covers and rocket launcher on the back) with Tan Clutch (or other figure), and Level 3, the Cobra Stinger top half (rocket launcher on the back with four rockets and blast effects and Cobra Stinger Driver). That would be three vehicles in one with three figures (including both Joes and a Cobra) and blast effects. Not saying it would still be worth a Haslab, but it would be a neat project with the ability to army build.
I really looking forward to the JADA Street Fighter line, I just hope they don't change cammy's outfit.
Mattel released a WWE Wreckin Rig Crane for $50 - basically a tractor trailer cab with a small crane mounted on the bed of it.
Customizers had a field day turning that thing into a troop truck for their 6" Cobra troops!
...*and* you can find it pretty much everywhere these days for a good 20% off (or more).
Vamp is my most wanted vehicle, but not my most wanted Haslab, great video and I 100% agree, hoping we end up with a Mobat or some kind of base for this
Yea that would be nice hopefully they retail release the vamp
I really really really want a Ferret, the Vamp is OK & it does go nicely with the existing bike, but only as it will enable a Cobra Stinger Jeep to get made as it's the same basic thing.
😂😂😂 Haslab is going to be a Dragonfly, and the VAMP will in the line 2024 for an INSANE price.....😂😂😂 I cannot wait for future videos. Save this comment.
I could believe the dragonfly for sure.
Hope they update it and make it an Apache instead of the Super Cobra like the original Dragonfly.
The only thing that scares me about the Valaverse vehicle is how much Rezvani charged him for that license. Even if he's a toy design genius who figured out every cost cutting method he could use, if they charged him a bunch for the license, he's got to pass that cost along. Compared to, for example, the Ramen Toy car, his vehicle will be simultaneously larger and more complex, AND a licensed toy. If he's not significantly more expensive then they are, they're ripping us off (intentionally or not)
I hope that license fee doesn't kill the vanguard as you stated but I think vala would account for that and if it was to bad from the door he wouldn't of accepted it or continued on with production so hopefully it will be cheaper then any other military vehicles or cars being offered to us by others.
some car companies have cheaper licensing cost because they view is as marketing for the masses. Ferrari from what I have read has the most expensive licensing which cost Hot Wheels around 5mil a year. I don't think Rezvani being a very niche car manufacturer would ask ridiculous licensing cost. company i work for currently has license from Toei to produce certain products and the licensing cost wasn't that outrageous to be honest.
@@FrankW1029 probably not, but it will be there. If they're smart, I agree with you, they can chalk it up as a marketing cost and charge him virtually nothing. It's a cute thing to have at trade shows or whatnot too, if they choose to go that route. But there are absolutely companies, as you note Ferrari, who think their shit don't stink and might ask for a mint. Again, I don't think that's likely, but he will have some cost to amortize from using their license rather than opt to create a vehicle from wholecloth. Hasbro won't have that with whatever they do for GI Joe, but we already know that their online model is more about asking us to pay the most they think we will, rather than as a cost-plus pricing model. That Ghost Rider car proved that, the work was not commensurate with that amount they were charging us. They learned from that, but I promise, they didn't learn much. Remember, these douche bags just sent Pinkertons to the home of a Magic the Gathering RUclipsr because they sent him cards they hadn't released yet. They literally sent a goon squad to intimidate him and his neighbors.
Personally, that was a last straw for me. If they offered a life sized Vamp, with a $15K gas card included, 8000 rds of ammunition for the guns, and Cover Girl herself as my personal chauffeur, I wouldn't buy it. I know others won't necessarily draw that line, whatever, but I hope the folks that do try to buy it at least make sure it's worth their money.
@@kiltedcripple hahahahaha.... agreed. I think currently i only have pizza spiderman, doom, and the tiger stripe wolverine that's a ML beside most others that are mcu and live action stuff that import won't make. Wong, mcu killmonger+watson (can't think of his mcu character name right now), iron monger+obie, hugh jackman wolverine, movie cable, mcu crossbone, and that crappy negasonic teen bs. I think that's about all the ML I have.
Vala mentioned in one of the live streams that he wouldn't have continued the production if the math didn't come out to what he thought was reasonable and affordable.
The mister rogers intro and outro was a very nice touch…again, there is only 1 Articulated Ninja…
🙏🏽 I appreciate that
Never forget the Haslab Cookie Monster!
"A billion dollar company doesn't need to force you to pay for tooling for anything." That right there is why I will never back a Haslab project. That's e-begging. If they can't make it happen without crowd funding, I don't need it.
I like the classified line more than anything else Joe Hasbro is putting out, but have NEVER seen a wave hit my local shelves. 90% of my figures had to be found online. They need to fix distribution STAT. Along with QC, paint apps, and every other damn thing.
Same I see all of this phenomenal stuff, but am gonna have to drive 2+ hours to have a shot at slim pickins 😅
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Omg hilarious! Aren't you gi fans grateful we were given not 1, not 2 but THREE GI Joe Classified motorcycles!?
🤣 your right let me be happy with my three bikes lol
I wish they'd do vehicles like Mattel did with the Justice League movie Batmobile. A tricked out RC with phone app version and a cheaper plastic shell for display one.
How come Hasbro hadn't come out with a trouble bubble without a figure yet, Zartans swamp skier, or any single pilot vehicle yet. It blows my mind!
Zartan will come with his swamp skier and he will color change ( from the sun) for 90$ probably as a Con exclusive or close to Joefest to try to shit on Bobby V.
@@rawtalkrealdeal9985 Probably over $100. They want a 3 3/4 Biker scout and speeder bike for $5 more than what they were asking for a black series version.
@LewisChristisonVids I wanted that until I saw the price. First time I laughed out loud over price.
It would be cool to see a sky hawk
The trouble bubble is going to be up for pre-order for yo joe June (June 14th to be exact)
True. Haslab stuff should be big, and special things. Stuff that probably won't work in stores like, an Avengers quinjet or a GI Joe command center for 1/12 scale. Not for things that they could sell for $75-100 at retail.
I think the smallest-sized Joe vehicle we get with HasLab is the G.I. Joe Snow Cat or Cobra Stun. A V.A.M.P., Striker or Stinger is something that they can do easily and far cheaper in mass production and would all sell well.
That said, my guess for the next Classified HasLab will be the Wolverine or the H.A.V.O.C.
I like Classified and Action Force. Pretty much given up on every other line. I agree that a Vamp wouldn’t be the best choice and would be better served as a pulse release to test the waters on that model. I would like to see something like the Mauler tank or something of that scale upgraded. I think the bases start risking being too big unless they do something like the 2003? Pit vehicle, which could be cool. But until I have the Hiss in hand, I don’t think I can even think about another HasLab especially with also having the Roboskull from Skeletron coming hopefully this year. I might just be done with vehicles due to the space in my apartment.
If you have any extra hiss tanks you bought please let us know. I’d like to get one. Thanks
Do you think the Roboskull will ever get made? I don’t know, it’s been a v long wait.
@@Strateggo I do based on the continued updates from Skeletron and them getting the Skelladrones out earlier than anticipated. We just hit the original estimation of delivery and Ben is pushing for it to be released this year
Plus I hope that Vala comes out with some military Sci-Fi cycles since no third-party wants to sell the V-Raptors.
One day man will build telescopes that can see atoms
I think they have addressed the QC issues. A lot of folks have ordered the latest wave and they're a return to greatness. I suspect the new Haslab will be the HAVOC. They've been largely going down the Animated Movie road. In the animated movie they used HAVOCs against HISS tanks.
I hope this new wave is solid will the the first solid wave in awhile
Knowing Haslab it will probably be a $600 silver mirage motorcycle.
The most acceptable and respectful (in tone at least) use of the Mr Rodger's theme I've found as yet.
😁 🙏🏽 thank you
A Danger Room Haslab would sell like crazy! A USS Flag, that giant robot from GI Joe Space Brigade. Haslab become a joke waaaaaaaaaay to fast
How about a Terror Drome (no please don't make that I have no where to put even a normal one).
As for Classified non-figures the small playsets seem an obvious choice (like the Cobra Battle Bunker)
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Imagine if HASLAB issued a classified Defiant shuttle as big as a Kei car! And don’t even get me started with the U.S.S. Flagg? That monster would be bigger than a four-vehicle garage!!!
I could see myself supporting a Haslab Dragonfly with Wild Bill. But not a basic vehicle. Especially when there are cheaper options out there for basic 1/12 scale vehicles. A dream project for me would be a 1/12 scale base to display all my figures.
What I love to see is hasbro complain about building vehicles for Gi joe classified six inch line and then I walk down the girl toy aisle and see Vans, cars, motorcycles, boats, playsets all for dolls that are larger then 6 inch!! Come on, make damn vehicles already and stop the excuses hasbro.
Bruh, in the 80s Tonka trucks at 1/12 scale weren't that expensive, and those were metal, not plastic. I'm waiting for Jada Toys to actually make a 1/12 plastic vehicle, fingers crossed, that won't be too expensive, but at the same time, I ain't holding my breath
I use some of those vehicles/trucks with my o ring Joe's, the good old days were most 3rd party vehicles were compatible with 3 3/4" figures.
A detailed mobat would rock plus we need the small base/ scenarip packs with accessory packs...extra hands and gear sold separately would be great!!!
tbh. if they do a regular release of a VAMP or any of the jeep type GIJOE vehicles and put it for pre-order on PULSE... its going to be sold out - i probably would get at least two.
I don’t need all the tiers, just make it pulse exclusive (if you won’t do retail) and we will buy them! My dream project is the W.H.A.L.E. for G.I. Joe. X-Wing for Star Wars. The Flagg or Death Star are dream projects that sure we want, but it would be so expensive it would never happen.
Preach the truth brother! Awesome post. I’m supporting Vala vehicles to hell with Hasblow! Always a good day when you post thanks for the laughs.
Thanks for enjoying so much man that means a lot 🙏🏽
I hear you, Bro. I think we all miss the world before the internet. Still, like you said, its a wonderful time to collect these toys. Love Toy Topics and the Mr Rogers song is perfect. Five Star Video! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Part of me thinks Hasbro are waiting for Vala to reveal his vehicle before they put their Haslab offering up for show.
I wouldn't be surprised what price you think vala can realistically come in at as a smaller company ?
@@ArticulatedNinja honestly I think what you're saying is accurate price wise for a smaller company like Valaverse right now. I think he puts Hasbro under pressure if he comes in at $200 or under $200. I don't think Haslabs are necessary now because once the Sail Barge, Unicron and Proton pack were done then that was about it. Everything since could be retail releases.
Using the length of the USS Ronald Reagan as an example, a 1/12 scale aircraft carrier would be 91' long. I'd probably have to keep that one outside.
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Haslab should be the FLAGG or Defiant or at least a GI Joe base. if they wanna do smaller vehicles it should be multiple vehicles the HISS should've came with a ASP in tow flanked by a Stinger jeep and ferret and stretch goals should have been a CLAW and a FANG copter and all the vehicles should've had a driver at least (and I'm talking about Classified scale stuff)
Welcome to Mr. Articulated Ninja's Neighborhood. 🤣 Kidding aside this wasn't bad for a first episode of Toy Topics.
😁 thanks Zilla
@@ArticulatedNinja You're welcome, Mr. Ninja. LOL
I don't support crowd funding projects for vehicles. I shop for exclusive characters. I made a decision to focus on figures and effects pieces above everything else. I have a few small vehicles and honestly Serpentor with his air chariot is the only vehicle that I have desired but Hasbro made him difficult to get so I put it out of my mind. I still enjoy my 3 3/4" figures and I don't believe that there have been any vehicles produced at that scale either (high quality or dream projects). Hasbro is finally adding to their Rider's line with the Hawkeye and Sky cycle. I will get that unless Hasbro makes it difficult to obtain. I would happily support a company who produced a line of vehicles at a decent price but no company is willing to do it for now. Great video and thanks for being a positive part of the community 😊
🙏🏽 thank you smith
My sentiment PRECISELY!
I 100% agree. They shouldn't drip-feed us mid-size vehicles as exclusives. There should be a half dozen vehicles on the retail shelves by now. Haslab should be for huge, premium items. Nothing smaller than a Havoc or Rattler. Haslab should be for vehicles like the Tomahawk helicopter, Moray hydrofoil, or Night Raven spyplane.
Facts
EoV was my dream project. For years I never thought hasbro would even consider making it a reality.
Damn man I'm sorry to hear that in wish they would of handled that project better
I actually agree. While I'm sure there's a big demand for the VAMP, Haslab should be reserved for something big with tooling that can't be used again. With the VAMP, they can certainly reuse the tooling to make a Cobra Stinger, or even a Tiger Force or Dreadnok version.
My buddies and I were just talking about this! This HASLAB mold will spawn 4 vehicles. 1. VAMP 2. Stinger 3. Tiger Force Vamp. 4. Python Patrol Stinger. It's coming. Collectors pay for the tooling and they reuse the mold. I can see it on the horizon, Ninja. It's gonna happen 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Yes most likely
I'm expecting the Wolverine tank, or more likely a helicopter with Wild Bill. Especially if they are playing it up as a mach in power for the his tank.
I want a full size 1:1 scale Water Mocassin that I can cruise around the bayou!
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I think the GI Joe cartoon had some giant robots.
Maybe Hasbro could try making one of those? It would be like the Marvel Legends Sentinel.
Then again, it's a Hasbro product, it will most likely crumble in your hands within five minutes of opening.
I completely agree that it should be a dream project. thats why I am hoping it will be the dragonfly
Going to laugh my ass off if they offer up a Vamp and they ask for $400, and the thinking? 4 doors, 4 seats, 4 wheels, and 4 front lights and 4 rear lights-taha…$400-Br’OH, That’s a Steaaaal man. Not that there won’t be folks who think…that’s a legitimate cost for their money.
For me a dream project is a new Phantom X-19 that's all black with no day-glow missles. Another dream project they'll never do is "corrected" Joes. The originals are cool, but ever-so-slightly badly-proportioned, and it's all in the legs. Adding 1/4" to the legs to make the figures an even 4" would make the figures look significantly better-scaled while still being small enough to make use of original vehicles.
Hasbro may be scaling back on their haslab vehicle sizes because of their costs vs how much $$$ they can get from customers for their products. And yes some people are gonna buy into it because they feel it's awesome...to each their own.
What I like ninja is how you show us alternatives to the mainstream whether it's a actual product (for example from valaverse) or something you find at the store and customize it to hold 6" figures.
I think that's where your videos just come off cool as hell.
But a USS Flagg...in 6" scale?! I can't even imagine. Nope. That would be insane. 😂
🤣 let a man dream , and thank you 🙏🏽
If HasLab did a full Classified scale GI Joe HQ or Cobra Terror drome that would be a dream project provided it was all plastic and had all the working bits like the originals did.
A truck sized vehicle should be something available either through assorted retailers etc. or as an online exclusive to non-storefront places like BBTS and so on but NOT a limited Hasblo site only exclusive.
Just my 2 cents
Makes sense that would be a better route then haslab
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Keep the cost under at least $250 and they'll see profits more consistently.🤷🏾♂️
Our pockets are not gonna be perma-full so they need to start eating some of the costs on their end. . .
Bro, the Mr. Rogers song tho!!😂😂😂 🤙🏻
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I'd love a uss flagg, actually I'd even take a USS FLAGG in 3.75/4" gijoe scale
No vehicle needs to be more than $50.
I don't think I would even tolerate a high price for a Valaverse vehicle.
Wouldn't mind wild bill and his chopper for the haslab, but I have low expectations at this point. But with the reveal of sarge, I wouldn't be surprised if they shoved a triple t at us. Which isn't really a dream project I guess. But once again, low expectations
I agree......right now I’m not really interested in a HasLab project because we don’t even have the Hiss Tank in hand yet, especially to review, so no matter what Hasbro comes with in June for the GIJOE CLASSIFIED LINE , they can count me out , because I don’t even have my Hiss Tank , ......Hasbro we want our Tank first.
1st Mr.Rogers was a really good choice! Brought back ALL the feels 😂 2nd June is going to be a very BIG month for reveals, let’s hope Hasbro learned a lesson 🤞🏽
I think you have hit it right on the nose. I am a new collector and I have enough trouble affording figures as they are let alone these hyped up crowd funded releases.
I'm OK with crowd funding, but their price was wrong on the His tank, but WAY worse on the car.
As far as "dream project", I cant even imagine how big a classified USS Flag would be, or how much they would charge for it. I know it would be a pass for most, just because of space and cost, but damn, it would be so awe inspiring to see a massive aircraft carrier on display in the center of a toy room!
Def. It would be the center piece of many collectors collections
After this summer, Hasbro will primarily have 2 options to remain competitive: 1. Improve the overall quality and value of their products or 2. Reduce their prices. Cause when collectors see a Marvel Legends fig for 28.99 and compare it to Savage crucible, Valaverse and 4Horsemen where for a few dollars more you get more bang for your buck it doesn't make sense to buy that Marvel Legends or Black Series fig. And Jada coming out with 25.99 action figure? McFarlane doing what he can to remain below 25.00 ... Hasbro's going to have issues if they don't change their business strategy.
Well worded
Well we will all know soon enough what vehicle the Haslab will be offering.... I am interested to see the Valaverse vehicle
Oh DAMN. VERY very good point! "Dream projects" is 100% correct. Just recently found your channel and Joe Classified, coming from 1/6.
The vamp is /was a basic vehicle to match our HMMV ! It better not be a crowd funder, lol. A terrordome at scale, a legit fortress for the baddies. They need a "W" a lot of fans have been pushed to be even more selective or play the long game /price drop
Very true
Those jada toys street fighter figures for the price I thought has to be a mistake. That the preorder price was just a down payment. Figured it had to be for for mafex prices at least for the articulation and detail they show. But no looks like these figures really are going for $24.99 for the amazing figures with detail, looks like awesome articulation like storm collectibles mortal combat articulation and these jada toys come with awesome accessories. For real $24.99. Just hope the quality control is good. Heck yeah I got all them on preorder and I’m not a huge street fighter fan. But these figures are to good for the price to pass up.
This is my new favorite channel. This man is saying the same thing my inside voice says 😂
😁🙏🏽 thank you
No matter what you collect and how you collect just have fun collecting , I would like to see haslow do the rolling thunder I remember getting that beast for Christmas.
It will be fun to see how much hasbro has learned from their hubris.
Jeez! I want a Fin Fan Foom in Galactus/Sentinel scale as a dream project, PLEASE!
I would love to see a Devil Dinosaur 3 Pack Devil with two interchangeable Heads (Kirby classic & Modern) with Moon Boy and Moon Girl. Not as a Haslab, but an art the store release. They had one on display at the SDCC a year or two before they dumped the line. Heartbroken overthat happening! 💔
I agree with your point that Haslab should be for dream projects. What I continue to find completely bizarre is the notion that certain things are "cash grabs". It's all a "cash grab". A business's sole reason to exist is to make money. Also perplexing is the idea that Hasbro is making profit by holding onto Haslab backers money. They're not a venture capital firm, they're a toy company. That money is getting spent. Now, even if they are doing that, with say stock buybacks or the like- again, they are a business who only exist to make money. Anything they do to further that goal should not be surprising. To be appalled at profit making business practices, especially of larger companies, is like being angry at water for being wet.
IM NOT A MCFARLANE FAN BOY, BUT HE HAS CREATED A BAT MONSTER TRUCK, 4 DIFFRENT BATCYCLES, A BATMOBILE, AND A BATWING AT STANDARD RETAIL PRICE...
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Totally agree with you. Scaling back some on classified for a while till Hasbro gets its house in order.
Good talk as always. Yeah that sail barge had a top, middle, bottom and sails. I think it will be a Wolverine for Cover Girl. In the teasers that came out it said, "something that could go up against the HISS, and it said something about a "cover up" One of the tiers could be an added bridge layer part to convert it to a bridge layer vehicle. I think an aircraft would be doper though. Haven't once gotten a Haslab. Bought a Galactus for someone in a live chat though.
Bruh, you just be talkin'. People take this stuff too seriously, especially opinions. Nothing you've said was outrageous. For me I've never bought into the Haslabs as I'm not a huge fan of anything that's been put out. But put out say a fully tooled, modular diorama set in actual plastic and I would be all over that. My dream project would be basically an Exteme Sets backdrop but fully detailed with a bunch of accessories. Give it some character but not make it specific to any particular toy line and it would go so fast at almost any price point.
I think they could make a whale with all the bells and whistles, charge whatever they want, and there wouldn’t be enough of them.
The Haslab should be the Wolverine because we already have CoverGirl
I appreciate the Mister Rodgers reference!
Classified rolling thunder
I agree short and simple, I rather a base that feels like a Haslab, sadly my theory is it's gonna be a Snowcat from posts, really want something bigger
You can pick up vintage G.I. Joe molds from India under the Funskool Racing Jeep & Police Jeep. Under 40 bucks!
Bruh, I still don’t see why hasbro NEEDS to do a Haslab. I do think at Vala Con, Bobby is going to announce Rezvani really bought in and that price will be under $150.
Sheesh man could you imagine less than 150 no crowdfunding and it's a complete vehicle ready to go. That's an army building price ofcourse the cheaper the better but other companies are not giving us anything for less then close to 200 now days.
GI Joe has been in my life 50 years, it's my main collection. However with that being said, I can see Hasbro being petty enough to do a Vamp since Bobby is doing his truck for Action Force. And it's more sad commentary on Hasbro. A GI Joe Pitt (Command Center) in classified scale would actually get my attention, though I doubt I'd still do a crowd funder for it.
Hasbro is out of control. They already got me on 2 HISS. I'll wait for Vala. And I'll continue to modify 1/12 vehicles and 3d print my own.
i want like a hand pack or something for classified. acting like none of these G.I. Joe figures don't use fist. gun packs, hand packs, ect. give my boy snake eyes some fists or throwing star hands. he is a ninja. give him some damn hands.
Unfortunately, I think Hasbro is not planning to release any vehicles for general release except micro vehicles (motorcycles, trouble bubble, etc). So anything bigger will be "dream projects ".
I remember getting my sky striker back in the day at target , and the crazy big black stealth jet back in the day. meeting up with friends cause they had both bases cobra and Joe's. I miss those days. It's kind of why I started collecting JoyToy mecha..cause I like 1/18 scale mechs and I could just buy them. I mean I know they cost alot but I like the attention to weathering and detail they do.
The same factory in China makes the joytoy and Hasbro products. It’s like China is purposely making the Hasbro products inferior to the Chinese owned joy toy brand.
I just started picking up JoyToy's 1/18 scale line but I'm being really selective with it and finding things on sale or on E-bay at 25% off or more. Those $125+ mechs are gorgeous, but I have a hard time justifying it to my bank account.
Vamp should be at retail, so they can make the stinger and dreadnok vamp, doesn't need the bells and whistles
I agree the dream aspect of the Haslab experience has all but disappeared. The sail barge, Galactus, Sentinel and Unicron were dreams for collectors of each fandom. The rest were okay products but not for the money they asked us to spend. I have supported a few Haslabs, not going to lie. I hate myself for it, but given Hasbro's track record I didn't see any other way to get a HISS or a Razor Crest or a Skystriker. I know it's robbing Peter to pay Paul but at least I'm selective of what I support.
Omg fin fang foom would be so crazy to have.
Personally, I don't care about Haslab. I only regret missing out on Galactus (kinda) other than that I don't believe in spending on my to a corporation that does crown funding. As far as Valaverse, I don't needs light for a military vehicle. From what I've seen so far if add spring loaded missile with that working winch and charge in the $150 range, that would be a game changer. I believe he could it and I cany wait to see finished result.
I agree with you-they should pay for the toys we want!
Zero need for funding. That’s just a psychological ploy. A mix of FOMO and prestige.
All they need do is list up three possibilities and do a fan vote. That way you’d even get a mild insight into what the fans are looking for as well as how many engage and vote.
fan vote is a good idea true
They should do the Killer Whale,uniquely gi joe.
Another great video Ninja!! I never really thought about the offerings Haslab's started with compared to what they're offering now. Will be interesting to see what they offer for the next Legends Haslab.
Doubt it’s a Vamp, it will be a tank or Dragonfly. And let’s be fare the Joe Team hit a home run with the HISS, so let’s give them a chance to show what they have for us this second time.
The hiss was nice I just wish it was a retail release it still would of sold thousands of units. That's how nice it was.
@@ArticulatedNinjaHasbro could *easily* do a mass produced, stripped-down version of the H.I.S.S. Tank for retail. Kick the multiple figures down to just the pilot, lose the missile racks, swappable armor plating, different cockpit glass, lights, and even the articulation on the tank treads and they've got something sellable between $75 - $100 (though arguably much less) that's still detailed because they're using the original tank production moulds. They wouldn't be able to keep them on shelves.
I don't have the space for (too many) vehicles, or Sentinels. I'm still astonished we haven't seen Prime Sentinel army builder packs using the molds from the Haslab.
And I call Haslab a pre-order with minimum goal, Mattel did too, back when they funded Grayskull.
Yooo Ninja As ALWAYS YOU CRUSHED IT MY FRIEND 🎉🎉🎉...👊💥👊
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Ninja I agree, if they make it a vamp I will be disappointed big time. I can see them throwing in add-ons like a towable H.A.L. or missle system to make up for it but it really needs to be a pulse or retail release. But tbh I want something crazy, Dragonfly, Havoc or even a whale, not a overgrown jeep. Over all really enjoyed hearing your thoughts & hope you do more. Take care.