Mic Shootout: Sennheiser e906 vs e609 Silver vs Shure SM-57 With Scott Sill

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @livetorock1844
    @livetorock1844 5 лет назад +90

    You have be careful when comparing mics in this demo, as the signals are not level-matched. The e906 must have a higher output, as it is about 2b louder that the other mics. Louder signals will tend to sound better to our ears (more full, articulate, and in your face), so it can be deceiving. But once you level-match the clips, the difference across mics is not so dramatic. Otherwise, great comparison.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад +32

      Yes it was hotter. I left it that way as I felt it was a difference between the mics. I probably should have had one additional comparison with the level matched. Thx for watching

  • @godofspacetime333
    @godofspacetime333 3 года назад +30

    Finally someone who used the same speaker and mic position for each mic. Jesus, I’ve gone through ten videos on e609 comparisons and they’ve all either got them on different speakers than the comparison mic or they’re switching them out and not marking the position AT ALL. Just wanted to say thank you for the thought and effort.
    That guitar tone is thicc btw.

  • @roybuis7646
    @roybuis7646 5 лет назад +34

    1:25 SM57 Clean
    4:13 SM57 Dirt
    1:59 e609 Clean
    4:18 e609 Dirt
    2:33 e906 Normal Clean
    4:23 e906 Normal Dirt
    3:06 e906 Boosted Clean
    4:29 e906 Boosted Dirt
    3:39 e906 Attenuated Clean
    4:24 e906 Attenuated Dirt

  • @davidwilliams912
    @davidwilliams912 Год назад +2

    Thanks, for the review on these mics, was a good representation of the 3!

  • @PEPPERMINT606
    @PEPPERMINT606 4 года назад +13

    As a slight perfectionist, i really love how much effort you put into placing the mics into the same spot.

  • @trashcat1031
    @trashcat1031 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. BTW, what silver face Marshall is that behind you?

  • @nikolayew
    @nikolayew 6 лет назад +6

    Perfect! What is your preference, e906 or e609 ? I think e906 has boomy low mids which can sound mushy in the mix?

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  6 лет назад +3

      SirBananaBoi I have really loved using the 609, been using it for 100s of demos on here. The 906 was about 2.5 db louder which was nice. I really liked the 906 normal, didn't care for the attenuated setting. I think since the 906 is at such a great price I am going to pick up a 2nd one

  • @michaelbooz
    @michaelbooz 3 месяца назад +1

    I think the SM57 and the e906 are a close match. However I have to say in this video I seem to like the 57 the best. Listen to the single notes on the G-string. The sound most powerful on the 57. I started out wanting in 906 before watching this vid but now I'm thinking about just getting the 57. Thanks for taking the time to make this vid and help the rest of us Scott!

    • @michaelbooz
      @michaelbooz 3 месяца назад +1

      I also felt the 57 is morning "cruchy" in the distored part near the end

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 месяца назад +1

      Awesome glad to help. Everyone needs to find their sound!

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 месяца назад +1

      🤘

  • @TroyNaumu808
    @TroyNaumu808 Год назад +2

    All three are great microphones. I own all three of them. Sennheiser E-906 is my favourite of the three. Sadly, it is also the most expensive. But, the price is surely worth it as it is also the most versatile of three.

  • @stephendverner
    @stephendverner 3 месяца назад +1

    I liked the e906 boosted. Gives you the high-end presence of the SM57 with a little more body on the low-end.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 месяца назад

      🤘 thx for watching

  • @Patrick_Garrett
    @Patrick_Garrett 4 года назад +6

    E906 with a 57 for live and 906 with a ribbon mic for studio. Always dual mic your cab for truly mixable tone. It's the mixing equivalent of a guitar player using two amps to mix tone instead of one.

  • @josstam
    @josstam 6 месяцев назад +1

    I loved this shootout and dearly 'd like to think that this project is straight from the heart. That said, in that line, my favorite outcome would be the 609. BUT the extra options from the 906 do tip the balance.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  6 месяцев назад

      Thx for the high compliments

  • @SevenSinsChoppers
    @SevenSinsChoppers 4 года назад +2

    You can now get the best of a dual mic recording with the Seven Sins “42157” mic clip. We custom made them to house a 57 and 421 mic and they rock for a great full sound . I liked the 57 in this particular video. Rock On 🤘🏽 ⚡️

  • @cliffstepp1379
    @cliffstepp1379 3 года назад +4

    906 brings out the guitar. But I’m also Shure you can eq the 57 to get similar sound, BUT for setting up a working band when you’re a player AND the sound guy, the 906 is the winner with easy, drape over the amp and go.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 года назад

      It's a great mic for sure

  • @brianclark2192
    @brianclark2192 4 года назад +6

    Great review. I’ve been trying to decide between the 609 and 906. But being that both GC and Sweetwater have the 609 on a sale price thru 12/31 (which is rare for this item) at less than half the price of a 906, I’m hard pressed not to get the 609. I’ve watched several comparisons today but I believe yours has ultimately made up my mind. Thanks again for a great comparison...I am tortured no longer. LOL

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 года назад +1

      Glad to help! Both are great mics

    • @voidburner8271
      @voidburner8271 3 года назад

      E906 is now on sale 129.99

  • @NikFraietta
    @NikFraietta 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for showing us the comparison. I dig the e906 in the boosted mode.

  • @elonmush4793
    @elonmush4793 5 лет назад +7

    quality shootout!

  • @ffs_auggie
    @ffs_auggie 3 года назад

    So I am using an SM57 with an audio box 96(PreSonus) and I notice my sound isn't very full nor is it loud. Is this bc the preamp(PreSonus) isn't good enough for the SM57? Also, did you plug the mics into the zoom h6 that goes into your computer?

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 года назад

      No plugged directly into the H6 and then took the SD card out and put it in my DAW to edit.

  • @deVon30241
    @deVon30241 5 лет назад +9

    The E 906 seems to highlight more of the higher mids

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад

      Devon Angell did you like that one best?

    • @bradmodd7856
      @bradmodd7856 5 лет назад +4

      it is just right for guitar, the 57 is pitched to high and the 609 just sounds like a bad 906 that didn't make the quality control check

  • @bucovinaofficial5253
    @bucovinaofficial5253 5 лет назад +11

    906 kicks ass in my books. fuller, more assertive and more in your face.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад +2

      I dig it too. I picked up a 2nd one after hearing the comparison

  • @fredd036
    @fredd036 4 года назад +6

    The sm57 sounded best with this guitar and setup. You can hear in the first demo that the low strings were clearer with the 57. Then it got muddy with the 609, and then cleared up a tiny bit with the 906. And, for some reason, the 906 was the loudest of the 3 mics.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 года назад +2

      There is a slight level bump on the 906. I left it like that as I wanted it be exactly the same settings nothing changing. In hindsight I should have pointed that out with a graphic as that wasn't noticeable until I mixed the audio

    • @bitshred
      @bitshred 4 года назад

      I agree. Maybe it's the "vintage" sound he has going here. And the 57 is something I'm used to. But I really dug that tone with the 57

  • @nicolasemiliorojasmorales3758
    @nicolasemiliorojasmorales3758 4 месяца назад

    Thanks!! Great video and testing!!

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 месяца назад

      Thank you so much!!! 🤘

  • @jgmopar
    @jgmopar 2 года назад +2

    The 609 sounds pretty good. I have the 906 and the Sure but not the 609. I might have to add it to the collection of budget mics.

  • @anthonysilva5312
    @anthonysilva5312 3 года назад +1

    Is that a Sennheiser e906 in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

  • @stewartcohen7683
    @stewartcohen7683 4 года назад +2

    Super helpful. I know what range I'm trying to capture, which is the lower midrange where the 906 excels--it is not muddy in there at all. Most mics can be eq'd to get what you want though you can never add clarity.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 года назад

      I have always tried to capture what I want with out having to EQ in the end. I love the 906 and pair it up with a ribbon or my Telefunken tube mic and you have a huge sound

    • @stewartcohen7683
      @stewartcohen7683 4 года назад +1

      @@sillennium I wasted several hours yesterday trying acquire and eq tone with two good mics for vocal/acoustic, multiple placements, amp settings, etc. but gave up. (Heil PR20 and Shure SM-81) Amps are just a different animal. As I said, super helpful. I'm listening to you through some decent equipment (audient IO/studio monitors) so the differences are quite noticeable. Just ordered an e906!

    • @stewartcohen7683
      @stewartcohen7683 4 года назад +1

      @@sillennium Well, I've had some time to use the mic, and as an added bonus it pairs wonderfully with my Shure SM-81 to record my acoustic guitar: e906 at the lower bout with presence boost, and Sm-81 six inches back from the 15th fret. Super clean and natural. I've never had a mic capture the deeper resonances of my guitar quite as well, although some studio ribbon mics sure do justice to the highs. Thanks again. :)

  • @AmpAHolic-wn6mr
    @AmpAHolic-wn6mr 3 года назад +2

    57 wins as expected. 906 was closer to the 57 and a respectable replacement due to its ease of use. The 609 was a bit muddy on the bottom end.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 года назад

      Thx for your feedback.....get it

  • @musicworkstujuh8109
    @musicworkstujuh8109 5 лет назад +3

    thank this review make me buying the e609 and sm57

  • @richsadowsky8580
    @richsadowsky8580 3 года назад +2

    I just love the good ole SM57. Some much rock and roll history at such an epic value. I like the e906 better and would pay the extra for it. Except I decided to add a ribbon since there are reasonably priced/well performing newcomers like the sE or Fathead.

  • @Timbotao
    @Timbotao 3 месяца назад +1

    Yeah you did a better job than other videos on this same subject... and as per... I really don't think there is much in it, the differences between the 3 is pretty negligible from a normal person's ears... of course guitarists and mix engineers are going to say there's a big difference!, but in my ears as a video/audio mix person... across and entire mix of a band, and especially live performances etc... there's not going to be much in it>>>
    I like what I saw someone else said on another review I saw, the e609 is more "ballsy" and the e906 is more "articulate"...and you can hear that... I like how in this comparison the SM57 proves that it has stood the test of time, and still a great performer after all this time... why change what isn't broke... I'd prob buy the e906 as I get a good smattering of clean guitars as well as some more indie and rocky things... so that extra clarity will probably be more useful over many different jobs over time...

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 месяца назад

      Thx for the great comment. 🤘 on

  • @ashkanmalayeri653
    @ashkanmalayeri653 Год назад

    wow I knew that gilmour used an old version of the 906 on his vocals in a concert but it never crossed my mind that he used that on his guitar until now. wow sounds like gilmour I guess it's because of the fender too. but wow. It makes me want one. 57 is always impressive.

  • @alirezaroshannahad
    @alirezaroshannahad 5 лет назад +1

    Useful video, thanks for making it. Good luck.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад

      Alireza Rowshan Nahad which one was your favorite?

  • @wesdavis9104
    @wesdavis9104 5 лет назад +1

    Great review, thanks alot!

  • @RyRyTheBassGuy
    @RyRyTheBassGuy 5 лет назад +3

    This shootout confirms what a lot of people already know: avoid the 609!

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад

      What about the 608 do you not like? What about the 906?

    • @RyRyTheBassGuy
      @RyRyTheBassGuy 5 лет назад +4

      @@sillennium Don't get me wrong, the 609 is more than adequate. It's just a dumb buy when the 906 is only $80 more and quite a bit better.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад +2

      Ahh i get ya now.

  • @David_Logr
    @David_Logr 2 года назад

    E906 attenuated must be my favourite, really brings up the body

  • @EddieOtool
    @EddieOtool 4 года назад +2

    I love both the price tag and the form factor of the 609, but man is it muddy...

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 года назад +4

      I don't feel that way, I feel more like that on the 57. Funny how all are ears are different

    • @EddieOtool
      @EddieOtool 4 года назад

      @@sillennium Probably more than I ever suspected - and I know a thing or two about it...

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 года назад

      @@EddieOtool cool thanks for stopping by

  • @richhansen8874
    @richhansen8874 4 года назад +1

    I can make a 57 do what the 906 does in the daw but might be cool to pick up one on sale🙂 you can have the 609😁

  • @jtn191
    @jtn191 6 лет назад +3

    imho e609 sounds better and more finished in this application

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  6 лет назад

      jtn191 thanks for stopping by! Always good to hear what others prefer.

  • @minnesotajack1
    @minnesotajack1 7 месяцев назад

    I’d say:
    1.) not a ton of difference
    2.) any difference likely isn’t worth double the price
    3.) if whatever difference you hear is worth double the price..the fact that it is double the price won’t matter to you anyway

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  7 месяцев назад

      I guess the big add is the lowcut switch. At the time I made this video the 906 was 99 bucks special to celebrate 20 years of the e series.

  • @tommcdonald1746
    @tommcdonald1746 5 лет назад +2

    I own several 57s and 2 609s and 2 e906 mics. Live, I prefer the 609 mics. The e906 are excellent mics but the added selector switch adds tones and boost that introduces problems in a live performance. In a studio recording e906 is a little better than the 609 because you can "tweek" the e906 anytime necessary. But it's hard to beat a 57 in a studio.

  • @MrJonesy2121
    @MrJonesy2121 2 года назад

    Should I cut off that distortion in that crunch and gave us some clean sound those power cords and that rhythm didn't seem to show much difference

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  2 года назад

      Are you asking a question or making a suggestion?

    • @MrJonesy2121
      @MrJonesy2121 2 года назад

      @@sillennium I was making a suggestion to show call clean clear sounds as opposed to distortion in that crunchy sound thank you for putting the video up I was looking for information you help me out all I was saying was it would've been a clearer demonstration if you had not used this store shin and that crunchy sound I couldn't really tell the differences but thank you man appreciate it

  • @MarioRoqueSanRoque
    @MarioRoqueSanRoque 5 лет назад +3

    57 and e906 is a perfect stereo combination but for me it's ok your Gibson amp. 🤔😂

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад +1

      What about my gibson amp?

  • @steveg219
    @steveg219 6 лет назад +3

    I hate say it because I own a 609 but I liked the 906 best !

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  6 лет назад +1

      Steve Greenberg they are super cheap right now till the end of the month.....the 906 that is

    • @steveg219
      @steveg219 6 лет назад

      Tempting!

    • @faautobahna9416
      @faautobahna9416 4 года назад

      @@sillennium Curious since it was mentioned a few times - what was that low price on E906? Want to get it but no hurry - perhaps should wait for July 4 sale or maybe Christmas time sales.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 года назад

      @@faautobahna9416 it was 99 bucks. It was an insane price I haven't seen since

    • @faautobahna9416
      @faautobahna9416 4 года назад +1

      @@sillennium You were very lucky indeed. Would love to have that again. In music for some time but only got into recording/mic purchase recently. First purchase was a Audio Technica AT4033A via craigslist. Now need another mic for recording acoustic guitar in stereo. Liking what I am seeing about E906.

  • @RichSad45
    @RichSad45 3 года назад +1

    I know I am late to the party. Would have loved to hear an Audix i5 and another Sennheiser e835 too. I love that this was through a Tele which is my go to guitar. I've been using SM57s forever and just looking for an alternative. I liked the e906 but fear it was simply because it was louder. In other comparisons like the mic shootout audio on Sweetwater's site I don't like either the e906 nor the e609. Thanks for the video comparison.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 года назад

      You are welcome. Thanks for watching. Don't forget to subscribe.

  • @yuhaozi
    @yuhaozi 4 года назад +1

    Where you hide the mics behind

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 года назад +1

      I have a separate room for my amps to be recorded so i can turn them up

  • @okaight7248
    @okaight7248 Год назад

    I genuinely do not know how the E609 exists. No one on the planet wants such a focus in that area of guitar, it just eats up so much spaces and muddy's and honks everything up.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  Год назад +1

      I tend to like the mic. I use the 906 but the 609 is great in my opinion

  • @FVDaudio
    @FVDaudio 5 лет назад +1

    Excelente.

  • @RockOfGreece
    @RockOfGreece 5 лет назад +4

    E906 by far the best low frequency response. Also nice high mids. Both the sennheisers lack the mids the shure has that a guitar really needs in a mix with heavy drumming and many instruments. The best would be a shure and e906. The e609 is a joke

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад +1

      Thx, I have been really liking using 2 mics and one is always the sennheiser for sure.

  • @Pcnto
    @Pcnto 5 лет назад +1

    Buen video👍 muy util, saludos

  • @raynbirdmusic
    @raynbirdmusic 3 года назад +1

    The e906 normal and sm57 sounded the best.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 года назад

      The 906 is on sale again, btw

  • @mogwix
    @mogwix 5 лет назад

    The e609 and the e906 have a presence boost in the upper mids that really thin out the guitar. You can try moving it to the edge of the cone, you can try some EQ, but by time you notch out the "ice pick" you're left with a dull sound. The 906 is definitely better but not really worth the price. I always end up going back to the SM57 or ATM650 for guitar cabs.

  • @michaelmarchei8539
    @michaelmarchei8539 4 месяца назад

    Can we take a moment to appreciate that amp and speaker crapping out completely

  • @SouthShine01
    @SouthShine01 4 года назад +3

    e609 its the best, I Don't like the SM57 it's too bright to me

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 года назад +1

      Thx for watching

    • @5000rgb
      @5000rgb 3 года назад +1

      SM57s never really sounded much like the amp did to me. If I wanted my guitar to sound like that I would have made my guitar sound like that. I wish he had commenter on how the recorded sound compared to the sound in the room. A 57 does capture a certain aggressive quality but and that may make it easier to mix and cut through the mix but a 609 does a great job of sounding like what I hear at a reasonable price. If a condenser mic is available, I'll take it but a 609 does well at a low price.

  • @deancat1
    @deancat1 5 лет назад +1

    The advantage the E906 has is versatility, like 3 mics in one so to speak. The SM57 is the industry standard, and costs less, one trick pony. If all you do is mic the same setup and sound all the time, go with the 57. If you need a little more utility, versatility, go with the 906. Price difference is not significant on the open market.

  • @davidwilliams912
    @davidwilliams912 Год назад +1

    e906 sounded the best!

  • @mostyles328
    @mostyles328 Год назад +1

    E906 hands dow, but none of them will hold you back in a mix.

  • @_gheo
    @_gheo 5 лет назад +1

    Well I think I still like the 57 better, but the 906 had some nice mids. I guess the best choice would be using 2 sm57 in fredman with a 906.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад +3

      I really dig mixing two mics on guitar cabs

    • @_gheo
      @_gheo 5 лет назад

      @@sillennium have you ever tried AE2500 by audio technica? I love that mic. I like to record with 2 amps: one is miked with 2 sm57s, the other is miked with the AE2500.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад +2

      I don't own that Audio-technica mic but I do have quite a few AT mics and love them

  • @JamesWarden-h6f
    @JamesWarden-h6f 4 месяца назад

    If you're not moving the mikes to their own sweet spot, this review is moot

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 месяца назад

      I would disagree, things can't change otherwise you can't compare. That's a simple scientific principle.

  • @ZachHayesRB
    @ZachHayesRB 5 лет назад +2

    Why does nobody use a reamp on these demo videos? The differences between the Sennheisers in particular is going to be subtle. Way more subtle than the difference between two performances of even the same riff on the same instrument. Its a big downvote from me chief.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад +5

      Then if you want to see videos done a certain make them that way. That is why I started making the ones I did. Do something about rather than complaining

    • @ZachHayesRB
      @ZachHayesRB 5 лет назад

      @@sillennium Nah I'm good just complaining for now. I don't need to make something better to criticize something. If you had hated the mics you were demoing, or any other product for that matter, would the fact that you've never built something better invalidate your opinion?

    • @ZachHayesRB
      @ZachHayesRB 5 лет назад

      There's a problem with your approach to shootouts. That's all I'm saying. Use a reamp box or record both mics at the same time in as similar positions as you can and they'll be a lot more interesting and useful to people trying to see the little differences.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  5 лет назад +2

      I appreciate the feedback but no I will not use a reamp box.

    • @BarrySPeas
      @BarrySPeas 4 года назад +1

      @@sillennium I think I still heard plenty of difference, but they are objectively correct that a reamp is gonna give a better comparison. One of my mates is an engineer, and on some forum he's part of someone very well renowned (but not immediately memorable because I had no idea who it was) did a demo demonstrating the huge difference in tone, when you place mics on the exact same part of a speaker, but whether it was near the bit of glue on the driver or not. I've not heard it myself but apparently it's night and day surprisingly. Anyway TLDR consistency is very important to make the best judgement. Can totally see why you might find it more interesting to play for each clip though, and I could definitely make out plenty of contrast between mics from it.

  • @patriarchysound
    @patriarchysound 3 года назад

    E609 has that nice broken line 6 tone lmao.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 года назад

      What did you think of the other mics or did you want to just insult line 6

    • @patriarchysound
      @patriarchysound 3 года назад

      @@sillennium I wanted to give a shout out to the sm57 and shit on line 6.

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  3 года назад

      @@patriarchysound fair enough.... didn't get that you liked the sm57 though. Good to know.

  • @volkanstrat
    @volkanstrat 4 года назад +1

    sorry but sometimes it's the vibrato of the player makes gear sound like shit

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  4 года назад

      So I am guessing you don't dig my playing

    • @volkanstrat
      @volkanstrat 4 года назад

      @@sillennium playing is subjective , there are thousands of players play better than each other but if someone is reviewing a product they have to do justice in terms of playing or getting the best sound they can. A poorly made review can affect a company or some other guys preferences in many ways we can't pretend sometimes. Sorry if I offended you, take care .

  • @spacebird7479
    @spacebird7479 4 года назад +1

    Sm-57 - 1:18 / 1:24
    E609 - 1:59
    E906 - 2:32

  • @hugomartinez9635
    @hugomartinez9635 19 дней назад

    4:13.
    4:23

  • @jaychen2000metal
    @jaychen2000metal 2 года назад

    906 boosted

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  2 года назад

      It was not all was left the same as recorded

    • @sillennium
      @sillennium  2 года назад +1

      I believe it was naturally a bit louder