Having the skip button in a story game does nothing if you don't press it. Not having a skip button in a story game when the story is bad makes you quit
@@katelynholmes9504 so not fixing the problem is your way to fix the problem? People who don't care about the story do the quest because they only care about the rewards because they're important for game progression and investing into their characters and don't want to have button mash and waste their time to get it. If you enjoy the story your extra reward to doing the quest is the story itself
@@Doobydoe I think they mean you would still get the regular rewards from the quest but you get something extra if you actually sit through all of it. At least, that's how I interpreted it!
Voiced story content is straight up more often than not worse than unvoiced world quests. Problem is, brother has an attention span of a three year old and wouldn’t be able to appreciate Enkanomiya, Ruu, Jeht, Narzissenkreuz and Ochkanatlan arcs.
Yay, I found another world quest enjoyer! They have the freedom of interpretation that novels have- you don’t have to deal with bad voice acting lol. I agree that this to me is like story players wanting to get all the spiral abyss rewards without 36 starring. It’s not a perfect analogy, but very few of the quests are actually required to advance AR and other essential upgrades, so gratuitous rewards for literally everything makes no sense
@@katelynholmes9504 I actually wouldn’t mind the voice acting, I think it’s mainly the matter of cost & storage space. The ideal solution would be an option to download the VA for quests before starting them and to delete it once you finish them. As for the rewards - it is what it is, people just want an easy way to feed their gambling addiction. They’ll never even realise how good of a content they’re missing out on - most people are unable to form their own opinions, they just repeat the sentiment after lazy influencers.
@vladdyru Def agree. You hit the nail on the head with the addiction part that people don’t want to say out loud. You can say that skip buttons are a great idea, but ask about what they’d think about a skip button with lessened rewards- not no rewards, just some unavailable- and they don’t like that idea at all.
Fellas be like, "Genshin is a story focused game" when you cant even play past events. I'm sorry, if better stories can afford a skip button to exist. Then Genshin can have a skip button. So, the main problem with Hoyo's writing is that it is BLOATED. Either writes more concise dialogue or give me the option to skip.
Idk I think this is more a HSR problem. I like the quests but writing quality has dropped somewhat. If anything I like world quests because spending time with the characters doesn’t feel like we’re ignoring stakes
deadass imagine you skip through the aranara quest and just like that you got a new entire fucking area of the map you have no idea what it is, or a fucking structure in your world is moved just like that? whats the point of it? is combat genshin really all that when u have no idea who the characters you're playing are?
I enjoyed the aranyaka quest and did all the quest in one sitting, but I still want a skip button. I find the arguments against skip button immensely stupid, and their main argument that it will ruin a "story-focused" game is just outright stupid. Most story-focused games has a cutscene skip feature, and of course it did not ruin it. For fuck sake, the most well known franchise right now, Soulsborne, has its story being an optional thing.
@williamcohle If you get your skip button, other casual players should get artifact presets so they can 36-star abyss without spending resin. Fair’s fair, and might as well cut out in both areas if you’re going to cut out in one, right?
Another reason why Hoyo isn't adding a skip button is to gatekeep primogems we get from quests. If there's a skip button, players can get more primos more easily through quests and may even tank their sales since more people will be more inclined to stay f2p due to the large number of clearable content in the game.
persona got their money by making you paying upfront,unlike genshin who making money by selling character through story and kit,and i think the reason they doesnt add skip button until now they see that there is still a lot of casual that interested to the character through the story rather than kit.remember us who cleared the endgame is minority in this game not even 10% of genshin player.
@@kunamsbinallamode2409 Well... But hi3 and zzz exists and while open world isn't present there, they still try to sell you a character. And they have skip button. It's up to player really. Like, one of the better things ZZZ did is that I can just engage interacting with character I like while being free to ignore others.
@@kunamsbinallamode2409 If you are a casual player, don't want to engage in battle content, and don't read the story, what else is keeping you in the game? Like just wandering mindlessly? That surely exist but definitely not a majority. Players who enjoy casual content and are interested in the game will naturally be engaged in the story content. Otherwise, I don't see how genshin would attract them. This isn't an MMO where social interactions are a major part and teapot is not enough to be considered a huge part of the game.
@@flybug123 you will be surprised how many casual player that exist in genshin,back then I was like you thinking ppl like us who like combat are majority in this game but is not.just couple months back my relation introduce me to his university friend circle,and how surprise I am that how many ppl that playing genshin that casual.
@@kunamsbinallamode2409 You are not understanding what I'm saying. I am not saying casuals don't exist. What I'm saying is that casuals will be naturely engaged in story content. A skip button does not force you to skip the story. And a causal player will obviously not skip because they play the for the story/characters. Therefore, a skip button does not realistically harm anyone because the problem it creates does not exist in the first place
"Story game" and your choices don't even matter because the mc is a boring, voiceless self insert 😭 If they at least put secret cutscenes or extra endings in the game (like that one joke ending in penacony), it would be more enjoyable because I'd be careful about my choices. Maybe if my interactions with characters mattered even in the slightest! Idk, example... imagine how hilarious it would be if you were rude to furina now you can't do her story quest for a few days because she doesn't want to see you, lol. Oh no I kicked a melusine, banned from fontaine for 3 days. Cyno is the final boss in TCG. You open books you collected from the akademiya and it has the notes Kaveh and Alhaitham left. The world would feel more alive and I'd feel like someone who's actually part of the lore, not just some spectator from the other side of the screen.
Bro, the skip button is literally NEEDED! I was feeling sick today, so I thought I'd start the new archon quest today, and I'll just chill. After some ok-ish yapping and nothing important happening for literally an hour, I got so bored I fell asleep mid dialogue. And now I don't even feel like continuing.
IMO as more of a casual I’d feel like I was being indulgent or wasteful with my time by not skipping. Interesting that I’m not seeing this for HSR- that game REALLY needs a skip button
The thing is, many other gachas that aren't made by Hoyo, like FGO, Arknights, Nikke, Limbus, Girls Frontline, Wuthering Waves and such all have skip buttons. For example with Arknights, cutscenes can go as long as 20 minutes if not more in later chapters since the world building is insane, a skip button helps peeps go from A to B much faster. And I do try to keep up with the lore of the games that I go skip. its truely stupid to think that adding a feature that nearly all gacha games and normal games have since the late 90s is bad lmao
@@Itsukikiwa whats the rest of it uhhh let me think... a 2 hour exploration video i can follow through on youtube, ermmm 10 minutes of resin spending daily and hmmmm spiral abyss every month thats it
@dhmhtrhs. i like building characters and doing hangouts. Personally been building an arle team lately since I'll pull her & weapon on rerun. It's okay if u don't like that tho. I just like to theory craft team comps and pull for hot men.... alhaitham rerun when... please... Also I am pretty busy outside genshin (shocker, i have a life!!) so those 10 minutes spending resin are like huge lol. Plus events... ooh events are so fun. Combat in itself is pretty enjoyable and genshin combat system is cool so even if I don't have time I can just do a single domain or try out on the abyss. Way more enjoyable (and way quicker) than sitting through 8 hours of lore i can't even make choices in 🤷
@Itsukikiwa interesting. I agree that we all have limited time, and spending resin takes only about ten minutes, but you can usually break quests up into chunks across days too if time is a significant obstacle. Personally, I put genshin quests on autoplay while I’m loading or unloading the dishwasher, and I find it doesn’t end up demanding a lot of time from me and I can properly appreciate what’s going on.
@@katelynholmes9504 in my case my "busy" means studies so unfortunately I can't rlly multitask. Although i do put less relevant quests on auto while I am studying.... on mute.
as someone who has a job and college classes i only have a few hours a day to play. I dont have hours to sit through a story at the end of the day I wont really care for
Imo they could add a story recap to almost all/all quests in genshin like in hsr and allow players to skip most of them, EXCEPT for the parts where we learn a new mechanism, etc.
Story game where the mc doesn't say a word and your choices don't make a difference, it's honestly like being forced to sit through math class. Except math class you learn math and genshin quests...
i love genshin world quests sm but like people who want skip button will fast click the story anyway at least make it easy for them to enjoy the game without doing the story likee
I literally press auto on story and i just mindlessly alt tab to play another game + spacebar spam like might as well give me the skip button so i can focus on genshin more 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Main story I understand but there’s literally no reason to no have a skip button for everything else in the game, even if you’re a super lore lover most side quest don’t have any good lore it’s clearly just there to keep people playing longer, it’s also crazy that some side stories are 1 hours + but it’s even crazier when some side quests are 3-6 hours long with NO SKIP BUTTON 😬 it genuinely got so painful doing 3 hour+ long side quests with bloated dialogue made just to waste my time I’ve stopped doing them since sumeru
@ I literally said I don’t do them anymore but thanks for reminding me ig??? 🤣 and no that’s not even close to the same thing what a horrible comparison 💀💀 the point of abyss is a dps / skill check on your characters that you have spent weeks building to clear the last floor but the story doesn’t require any skill or investment you literally just watch it ( I thought that was common sense 😭😭 ) a lot of ppl don’t pay attention or leave it on in the back ground, you can’t do that in the abyss you actually have to play 💀 and like he said multiple times in the video IF YOU LIKE THE STORY A SKIP BUTTON DOESN’T AFFECT YOU AT ALL ITS OPTIONAL NOT MANDATORY
agree on both not adding a skip button on the archon quests and adding a skip button for world quests/story quests, it's freaking annoying to waste time esp on something that i barely care about, not being selfish but there's a lot of reason to skip some of the game's story regardless if they are lore related or not, OR atleast have an option to 2x the speed of dialogues although, i kind of understand the fact that they're most likely gatekeeping the primos that comes along on those quests since if it has a skip button you'll finish every single quest under 5 minutes
@xi4nyun Frankly, this game is easy and doesn’t require much skill to clear abyss, just persistence and grinding. And I never said that there shouldn’t be a button. A button ‘with no other change’, however, poses a significant problem with disincentivization. very few people would, when deciding between skipping or questing, choose to quest if the rewards were the same. There need to be incentives to invite people to quest and explore the lore, and that could be done through additional rewards to questers that would not be in the rewards for skippers, should there be a skip button. Even if there are some people who hate lore, there are plenty of people who could enjoy it that would also be more likely with some additional incentive to decide to quest.
my thing is that people who beg for a skip button always have like 3% exploration and log on for 10 secs a day to uncap resin and log off. At that point the game really is just a story game so why would you want a skip button. And oh dont even get me started on the people who skip story but still fight to be included in lore conversations.
Agree with some of your points. It’s odd that people will say combat and abyss doesn’t take that much time, but artifact farming and character training DOES take a lot of time, spread over multiple days. You can totally do that with lore too- a bit at a time- but lore is completely optional most of the time. I for one auto play quests while I do chores, and find that it doesn’t take up much of my free time at all, and I can still enjoy the story
"Having skip button in event/abyss gives the player option" "You have to do this event/abyss for primos, I want to just enjoy story and my wifu character let me just skip and get those primos"
This is just my belief but there has to be a proven but behind-closed-doors reason why there's no skip button in Genshin. I'm talking about psychologist-proven research result that adding a skip button is against the goal of Genshin as a product/service. Because there's no way Hoyo would go against feedback as widespread as this. My own theory is that - if you can skip through dialogues, players will gradually care less about the game. Now, spending more time in a game doesn't translate directly to investment/engagement. But it works most of time. It works so well that it's everywhere now. That's why battlepass that takes 20-30 hours to grind is the new norm. That's why episodic or segmented media that requires you to come back every week is the new norm. Designing something that requires time is easier than designing something to engage millions of players at the same time. The reason why I believe this - is because it actually works on me. ZZZ has skip button and its gameplay is relatively less time-consuming than Genshin, and I end up caring about it way less. Now, it might be because I've been playing Genshin for longer, but I'm willing to play it more than ZZZ just because I feel like the game wants me to spend time with it more. Even in the end ZZZ still has spam-clicking dialogues more than actually skippable ones, my point still stands.
But tons of people who want a skip button dont read genshins Story and still play, or find it awful and still quit. (Also an expirement with only you is biased towards you)
I think a skip button is only viable if the quest doesn’t change your knowledge about the main story line, or if the quest becomes old content. I have some friends who have been playing since genshin came out and some who have just downloaded the game as of last year. Yet both havent even tried to clear the fog from Tsurumi Island better yet unlock the sub-areas like Enkanomiya, Chasm, etc. For my friends who just started playing, i kind of feel bad because they have to go through so much content in order to grasp the storyline. While the older ones just aren’t motivated to play because the quests take up way too much time or just aren’t relevant to current game content. Adding a skip button to a quest(let’s say the quest came out in 3.0 and we’re currently in the 5.0 margin) that’s more than about 3-5 updates old would be nice for players who get overwhelmed by the amount of content the game produces. Some people could argue that it’s just a game and that you shouldn’t feel pressured to clear all the content within a week of it coming out, but some people get spoiled by the stuff they see online due to some game servers obviously being up before others or by the leakers who are quick to share everything online with no warning. Which would make both kinds of players even more likely to ignore the quest even if there are rewards locked behind it. A skip button is only good for certain cases, which don’t include the newest content or main dialogue. Another option could be to take away certain time gates so that people feel more motivated to progress through the story line. I remember there’s a reputation quest in Inazuma where you have to plant some sort of seed in the waters of Enkanomiya, and then come back the next day. Quests as old as this one shouldn’t have a time gate. And if they do, it should be using the in game clock instead of the IRL one.
You make great points, id agree. I’d only caveat to say that it’s not completely impossible to avoid spoilers if you avoid the right online locations and navigate well.
@katelynholmes9504 True, staying away from every single spoiler or leak is impossible. And sadly hyv can’t catch every single leaker. I’d just say it’s best to just stay away from social medias like tiktok, youtube, or instagram, which tend to have the most leaker/spoiler content. It’s just sad that someone would have to go through all that just to enjoy the game.
Look. Currently, in Genshin, we don't have a skip button for quests. For the lore enjoyers, that's good, but you have to take into account people with a life; those with limited time. Remember that many quests in Genshin are a requirement to unlock something, forcing players to do them. However, most of the quests in the game honestly suck and is just there to waste your time (Except the Archon quests. I love those.) If you add the skip button, you appeal to everyone in the game, not *just* the lore enjoyers. People who don't care about the story or don't have time to play the game can progress and unlock stuff, and those that love the story, well, nothing has changed. It's a win-win situation. So April, please refute your statement with something objective and you think is better than mine.
As much as i understand Nick. The quests are are really good ( only if you actually pay attention) The game's lore that i have been following for 4 years now has made me play it consistently Adding a skip button would impact a lot Like he said he would have skipped aranyaka if there was a skip button. But he played the quest while some what understanding a lil bit of it ( nick is not a lore player he plays for combat and i get that ) So if someone say does a quest because of no skip button and likes said quest and does more quests and starts to follow the story it will affect the persons overall Impression of the game. But if there was a skip button this would not happen. I am not saying that a skip button is not needed i am simply saying a counter argument. I really dont care if they add a skip button i won't use it anyway
Your points are great and I agree. If we had to compromise, I’d say that there’d be special rewards during the quest for people who actually go through it that would be unavailable for the final rewards for people who skip. That way, there’s something to entice players who are undecided about whether or not to do the story. Skipping players would get some rewards but not those. That way, an incentive still exists for most people to clear the story despite the time demand if a skip button existed
I don't want to sound rude, cause I enjoyed a lot if hoyo plotlines too. But like... The story is already bad. It's bloated, a lot development for world and characters locked behind events you can't repeat, the way game insists on making sure you know what characters about to do, hardly any nuance too (idk something like otto, not even remotely close). Not to mention, the payoff of all this won't be good in the end, cause they have to keep milking this game.
@copiumhsrgi yes I do agree with you that genshin story is not that good as hi3 or HSR,but I still worry that skip button gonna make story worse that it is now.after the skip button added the devs will start thinking "the player will skip anyways so no point make story better".
@@kunamsbinallamode2409 Again, that just doesn't make sense. Wuwa has it and a lot of people said the story has only been improving. Same goes for ZZZ, it keeps everyone happy, writers don't care if you gonna skip or not as long as player pulls or spends money.
We need a skip button, watching the story made me pull for to many characters, I didn't wanted to pull for Citlali but I played her story and now that I see she's a granny that like to get drunk I chaged my mind, I want her now
You can do weekly bosses without doing their quests and events aren't gatekept by archon quests for a while now. The only the reason to do them if you want the primo, and if you can't stand doing quests, then rip bozo, don't do them.
So taking the gameplay aspects away from a video game of over coming a challenge and earning a reward. Making the gameplay worse for people who care about it. When adding a skip button changes nothing for people who choose to engage with the story? How childish
@@Doobydoe It seems to be a challange for you guys to just go through a story. Low attention span is something that children have a problem with. So don't call me childish. I don't want the abyss to be skipable the same way I don't want the story to be skipable. Because both are a bad idea. Even if I don't enjoy the abyss.
@@KizKim lmao what a strawman. How about I start calling you mentally challenged for not wanting to engage with the game's "hard content", yeah that must be the reason, right? If someone doesn't want to engage with the content I like it's because they are not capable and not because they simply do not care about what that content has to offer by engaging with it. Again, childish.
@@KizKim You accuse me of having low attention span while completely ignoring my arguments to focus on the "insult" at the end... Skipping most of what's written just to get to the end, because you don't wanna engage with the content, huh, that rings a bell. I diagnose you with low attention span. Have a good day 😄👍
story focused lmao it's fucking gacha game!!! there maybe some people who pull a character just because they like them, but hyv want us to spend money on the game. why would people c6 a character just for them to look pretty? i don't get why these people like to gatekeep genshin like this. even with the arguments like “people would misunderstood a character” i still don't get it. i know that we like to see ourselves in a character in some way. but i don't think it's wrong for people to interpret a character differently from other people. it's just part of the art. and more importantly, why would a skip button bother you so much? why does the fact that a lot of players don't care about the story bothers you? i personally have stopped paying attention to the story since inazuma, but i never complained about the story because i know it's A PART of the game. i just wished they'd let me skip it.
LITERALLY there's people defending genshin's decision to put mavuika and citlali together while giving rewards the day their banners are gone because they think genshin is story focused 💀🙏 girl if you think the majority of the playerbase is playing for the story you haven't played any other games, genshin's story is good but not the best thing ever
No one is talking abt this but the reason is because quest dialouge in genshin and hsr are loaded in a cutscene (world quests arent) so its hard to implement like zzz or wuwa which loads cutscenes with the ingame models
Yeah, that is a game design problem, but player shouldn't be punished for this decision. Not to mention, the least they could do make animations faster.
@@FirstLast-fl1co nikke is both a coomer game and a good lore game. Those two coexist. Plus... don't act as if genshin didn't have a questionable target audience too. "Oh yeah most mortal characters have vague age groups and we have immortal gods who look like toddlers haha"
genshin story is mediocre at best, the people enjoying the combat and exploration of it will literally suffer no consequence from a skip button if the devs wanted us to read it, they should put some effort into it
Agreed... especially because so many good parts are locked behind events. Also, it's a "story game" but your choices don't even matter except in hangouts (HANGOUTS ARE GOATED!!!!!!!) The worst part is that not having a skip button affect lore enjoyers themselves. I had some chapters I enjoyed, Sumeru was great personally. I'm hyped for Snezhnaya, but I didn't like Natlan. So you're telling me I'm forced to sit through 8 hours of natlan quests JUST to get to Snezhnaya? Don't piss me off. Not to mention how much content is locked behind quests too. Story quests, exploration, reputation, dailies, hangouts... like, at this point it feels like they're turning their game into a chore. If you want ice cream you need to eat your vegetables, except in this analogy vegetables are useless and a waste of time. At least broccoli is good for my body.
@@Itsukikiwa True, I don't know why people barely talk about this, but what's the point of having to choose dialogue if in the end it doesn't matter? Cause Breath of the wild had it I guess... But then they kept it in their other games too, like HSR writing pisses me off even more. And it doesn't affect world quests at least, so then maybe some replay value or fate of NPC would be different (i can dream)
@@copiumhsrgi and the fact having a choice system would be so much more enjoyable, because you'd REPLAY it to get another ending. I have over 100 hours on omori because I wanted to analyse every ending and get the hidden achievements, I don't regret a single second. But nooo, the traveler can't have opinions or a personality, they're a self insert. Maybe not even change the whole story, but at least reward me with an extra cutscene or smth... like that one hidden cutscene in hsr when you choose to leave the room in penacony, that was hilarious. Copy paste that type of humor into the whole game I beg. It's less boring.
The idea that people don't want to waste hours and hours doing terribly-written and incredibly bloated quests equates to lack of reading comprehension is laughable. You just want to insult people for the sake of it. You're not better than anyone because you like to read walls of text filled with nonsense all day.
What's there to read? Genshin isn't sure as hell Disco Elysium (a game that did put me into existencial crisis by just a few sentences. And it funny af!) for me to care about three paragraphs of the same thing repeating that just happened. Or yeah, hearing that dove dialogue for three times is sure time spent well.
This is like story players wanting to get all the rewards from 36-starring abyss without building their characters. Would socks be behind that? I think it’s pretty unfair imo, especially when world quests aren’t even required. Just do what meta players say to story players: “just don’t do the content you don’t like.” Don’t do the world quest and then complain that you did it
Except spyral abyss is supposed to be a video game challenge, you put time skill and effort and you get rewards, it's how vídeo games work, since the beginning. Going through the story takes no effort and is just a waste of time if you don't want to engage with it because it's not actual gameplay. Genshin is not a visual novel, it's a video game no matter how much focus it gives to the story, and the analogy does not work
@Doobydoe If going through the story takes no effort, you wouldn’t be making all these posts responding to me. It takes a lot of time and investment to make your characters good, and once they are, clearing abyss doesn’t require much skill at all, compared to duelist challenges.
@Doobydoe And “actual gameplay” is a ‘very’ subjective term. Story-only enjoyers, for instance, may consider the story enjoyable gameplay. Yes, there’s some combat in it, and things to experience. I believe the analogy works perfectly fine.
@Doobydoe And you haven’t addressed the fact that people still want all the rewards despite not having invested the time into them, or why you can’t just not do the ones that aren’t essential to unlocking an entire region or play style, for instance- and those are very few.
@@katelynholmes9504 no it does not take effort, mashing the A button and praying that it ends soon because I'd rather be doing something else is not putting in effort. I'm making posts because it's completely stupid to not let the player choose if they wanna go through the dialogue or not, when every game has the skip feature, even other Hoyo games.
Cap. 😂😂😂 I dont think majority or even half of the players based their pull on the story. It's always the power of the character. Even if you dont put a story on nuevillete, he is still the strongest and 90% of players would want to pull him. If they dont want the sales to get hurt, they should stop doing s2pd characters and stick with what they are doing in natlan. The best region so far. Every 5 star character is cracked.
Genshin’s mobile revenue has dropped by 40 percent since 2023. Besides, players can also pull based on gameplay, synergy with current teams or just straight up simping. There are basically no must-pulls in this game, why do you have to make it about the meta?
Chasca’s story made her look awesome and really endeared her to me. I don’t think pulling for strength is the only reason everyone pulls for characters. I do agree that I’m a little sick of people whining and complaining about Natlan and the main elements of Genshin lol we should probably just chill and enjoy ourselves
Yeah he doesn't wanna waste his time on some mid story because they gate keep important resources, truly what a crybaby is and not the people who are against something that would change nothing about how they play the game
Dude some areas and domains are literally locked behind quests. Especially now in natlan where elixirs also require exploring. You can't just call it "crybaby" when a game which has a bunch of content besides the story limits your experience if you don't do the quests. That's like telling your kid to eat their vegetables if they want ice cream, except the vegetables are plastic and don't do shit to your body.
There are only a few quests that lock domains nowadays- most of those are in the older regions for old artifact sets and characters. Frankly, if people hate the story, don’t want anything to do with it, and just button mash, and at the same time contradictorily think the game is unplayable without playing the quests for some reason, why play Genshin which has so many “obstacles” and just play another combat game?
@@MT-dn4tu If it was a skip button for smurf accounts and they track if you've already finished a quest in your main account then yes I'd love that too cause it's annoying asf doing everything again. But will I have to power to make lore skippers stfu whenever there's lore discussions? No? Oh okay.
How about stop playing the game? More time for you to have with your life. But no, of course you want all the rewards, the resources and free primogems without having to spend any effort.
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to stunlock or to get stunlocked
People be acting like, they are suddenly forced to use that skip button once added.
Having the skip button in a story game does nothing if you don't press it. Not having a skip button in a story game when the story is bad makes you quit
I agree. A solution id think about for this, to make it fair, would be to give rewards during the quest that would be unavailable to people who skip.
@@katelynholmes9504 YES
@@katelynholmes9504 so not fixing the problem is your way to fix the problem? People who don't care about the story do the quest because they only care about the rewards because they're important for game progression and investing into their characters and don't want to have button mash and waste their time to get it. If you enjoy the story your extra reward to doing the quest is the story itself
is the story bad by any means?
@@Doobydoe I think they mean you would still get the regular rewards from the quest but you get something extra if you actually sit through all of it. At least, that's how I interpreted it!
no way this is a 25 video of him ranting about a tweet he said he wouldnt get stunlocked by
And he dare to say he didn't get stunlocked by it after yapping
Archon Quest - no skip (with warning)
Other Quests - skippable
Win-win
Voiced story content is straight up more often than not worse than unvoiced world quests. Problem is, brother has an attention span of a three year old and wouldn’t be able to appreciate Enkanomiya, Ruu, Jeht, Narzissenkreuz and Ochkanatlan arcs.
Yay, I found another world quest enjoyer! They have the freedom of interpretation that novels have- you don’t have to deal with bad voice acting lol. I agree that this to me is like story players wanting to get all the spiral abyss rewards without 36 starring. It’s not a perfect analogy, but very few of the quests are actually required to advance AR and other essential upgrades, so gratuitous rewards for literally everything makes no sense
@@katelynholmes9504 I actually wouldn’t mind the voice acting, I think it’s mainly the matter of cost & storage space. The ideal solution would be an option to download the VA for quests before starting them and to delete it once you finish them. As for the rewards - it is what it is, people just want an easy way to feed their gambling addiction. They’ll never even realise how good of a content they’re missing out on - most people are unable to form their own opinions, they just repeat the sentiment after lazy influencers.
Bro is right ( world quests are so good)
@vladdyru Def agree. You hit the nail on the head with the addiction part that people don’t want to say out loud. You can say that skip buttons are a great idea, but ask about what they’d think about a skip button with lessened rewards- not no rewards, just some unavailable- and they don’t like that idea at all.
Fellas be like, "Genshin is a story focused game" when you cant even play past events. I'm sorry, if better stories can afford a skip button to exist. Then Genshin can have a skip button. So, the main problem with Hoyo's writing is that it is BLOATED. Either writes more concise dialogue or give me the option to skip.
Dont forget world quests (which have 90% of lore) are muted
Idk I think this is more a HSR problem. I like the quests but writing quality has dropped somewhat. If anything I like world quests because spending time with the characters doesn’t feel like we’re ignoring stakes
Event replayability is definitely coming sooner than later - they’ve already added it to Star Rail and ZZZ, so it’s only a matter of time.
deadass imagine you skip through the aranara quest and just like that you got a new entire fucking area of the map you have no idea what it is, or a fucking structure in your world is moved just like that? whats the point of it? is combat genshin really all that when u have no idea who the characters you're playing are?
@dhmhtrhs. Yes. Also all the story is in their info area. So it doesnt matter
5:06 trueeee
Anybody who thinks skip button shouldnt be added should be sentenced to playing aranyaka world quest in one go lol
I will do that.... Unironically lmao
gladly???
I enjoyed the aranyaka quest and did all the quest in one sitting, but I still want a skip button.
I find the arguments against skip button immensely stupid, and their main argument that it will ruin a "story-focused" game is just outright stupid.
Most story-focused games has a cutscene skip feature, and of course it did not ruin it.
For fuck sake, the most well known franchise right now, Soulsborne, has its story being an optional thing.
@williamcohle If you get your skip button, other casual players should get artifact presets so they can 36-star abyss without spending resin. Fair’s fair, and might as well cut out in both areas if you’re going to cut out in one, right?
@@katelynholmes9504That is literally the most horrendous comparison I've heard in my life
Another reason why Hoyo isn't adding a skip button is to gatekeep primogems we get from quests. If there's a skip button, players can get more primos more easily through quests and may even tank their sales since more people will be more inclined to stay f2p due to the large number of clearable content in the game.
honestly, now that F allows you to speed through text AND choose a response.... just make a macro that spams F. it helps
@@LordDefdude that just got banned for 50 years for doing just that LOOOOOL
Quest are limited
@@tdof7217yeah lol, third party services are strictly prohibited
this is the only reason i think lol
Bro if PERSONA games can have a skip button then surely waifu gambling simulator also can
persona got their money by making you paying upfront,unlike genshin who making money by selling character through story and kit,and i think the reason they doesnt add skip button until now they see that there is still a lot of casual that interested to the character through the story rather than kit.remember us who cleared the endgame is minority in this game not even 10% of genshin player.
@@kunamsbinallamode2409 Well... But hi3 and zzz exists and while open world isn't present there, they still try to sell you a character. And they have skip button. It's up to player really.
Like, one of the better things ZZZ did is that I can just engage interacting with character I like while being free to ignore others.
@@kunamsbinallamode2409 If you are a casual player, don't want to engage in battle content, and don't read the story, what else is keeping you in the game? Like just wandering mindlessly? That surely exist but definitely not a majority. Players who enjoy casual content and are interested in the game will naturally be engaged in the story content. Otherwise, I don't see how genshin would attract them. This isn't an MMO where social interactions are a major part and teapot is not enough to be considered a huge part of the game.
@@flybug123 you will be surprised how many casual player that exist in genshin,back then I was like you thinking ppl like us who like combat are majority in this game but is not.just couple months back my relation introduce me to his university friend circle,and how surprise I am that how many ppl that playing genshin that casual.
@@kunamsbinallamode2409 You are not understanding what I'm saying. I am not saying casuals don't exist. What I'm saying is that casuals will be naturely engaged in story content. A skip button does not force you to skip the story. And a causal player will obviously not skip because they play the for the story/characters. Therefore, a skip button does not realistically harm anyone because the problem it creates does not exist in the first place
i'm sure that if Genshin had a skip button Zy0x wouldn't play through and quest ever again om
He’d do it for the content but definitely for no other reason lol
"Story game" and your choices don't even matter because the mc is a boring, voiceless self insert 😭
If they at least put secret cutscenes or extra endings in the game (like that one joke ending in penacony), it would be more enjoyable because I'd be careful about my choices. Maybe if my interactions with characters mattered even in the slightest!
Idk, example... imagine how hilarious it would be if you were rude to furina now you can't do her story quest for a few days because she doesn't want to see you, lol. Oh no I kicked a melusine, banned from fontaine for 3 days. Cyno is the final boss in TCG. You open books you collected from the akademiya and it has the notes Kaveh and Alhaitham left.
The world would feel more alive and I'd feel like someone who's actually part of the lore, not just some spectator from the other side of the screen.
Totally agree with you. Hoyo, take notes!
Everyday, Zyox is ever closer to cosplaying Singed.
Why do people do stuff that others deem unspeakable... For... Vermilion goblet.
Bro, the skip button is literally NEEDED! I was feeling sick today, so I thought I'd start the new archon quest today, and I'll just chill. After some ok-ish yapping and nothing important happening for literally an hour, I got so bored I fell asleep mid dialogue. And now I don't even feel like continuing.
gws
Skip button for archon quests is kinda iffy
IMO as more of a casual I’d feel like I was being indulgent or wasteful with my time by not skipping. Interesting that I’m not seeing this for HSR- that game REALLY needs a skip button
lmao 5.3 u do nothing for the first hour it’s crazy
The thing is, many other gachas that aren't made by Hoyo, like FGO, Arknights, Nikke, Limbus, Girls Frontline, Wuthering Waves and such all have skip buttons.
For example with Arknights, cutscenes can go as long as 20 minutes if not more in later chapters since the world building is insane, a skip button helps peeps go from A to B much faster.
And I do try to keep up with the lore of the games that I go skip.
its truely stupid to think that adding a feature that nearly all gacha games and normal games have since the late 90s is bad lmao
having the option to skip is fine there's content creators that do all the summarizing for you + lore
And also genshin is definitely not just story lol
@@Itsukikiwa whats the rest of it uhhh let me think... a 2 hour exploration video i can follow through on youtube, ermmm 10 minutes of resin spending daily and hmmmm spiral abyss every month thats it
@dhmhtrhs. i like building characters and doing hangouts. Personally been building an arle team lately since I'll pull her & weapon on rerun. It's okay if u don't like that tho.
I just like to theory craft team comps and pull for hot men.... alhaitham rerun when... please...
Also I am pretty busy outside genshin (shocker, i have a life!!) so those 10 minutes spending resin are like huge lol. Plus events... ooh events are so fun.
Combat in itself is pretty enjoyable and genshin combat system is cool so even if I don't have time I can just do a single domain or try out on the abyss. Way more enjoyable (and way quicker) than sitting through 8 hours of lore i can't even make choices in 🤷
@Itsukikiwa interesting. I agree that we all have limited time, and spending resin takes only about ten minutes, but you can usually break quests up into chunks across days too if time is a significant obstacle. Personally, I put genshin quests on autoplay while I’m loading or unloading the dishwasher, and I find it doesn’t end up demanding a lot of time from me and I can properly appreciate what’s going on.
@@katelynholmes9504 in my case my "busy" means studies so unfortunately I can't rlly multitask. Although i do put less relevant quests on auto while I am studying.... on mute.
as someone who has a job and college classes i only have a few hours a day to play. I dont have hours to sit through a story at the end of the day I wont really care for
Imo they could add a story recap to almost all/all quests in genshin like in hsr and allow players to skip most of them, EXCEPT for the parts where we learn a new mechanism, etc.
they should start making the story good and not just yapping sims if they want me to actually believe its a story based game
Story game where the mc doesn't say a word and your choices don't make a difference, it's honestly like being forced to sit through math class. Except math class you learn math and genshin quests...
Thanks for putting this up here. I fell asleep during his stunlock lol😂
3:37 FIRE EMBLEM MENTION THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT
i love genshin world quests sm but like people who want skip button will fast click the story anyway at least make it easy for them to enjoy the game without doing the story likee
to clip or not to clip (welcome back)
I literally press auto on story and i just mindlessly alt tab to play another game + spacebar spam like might as well give me the skip button so i can focus on genshin more 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Main story I understand but there’s literally no reason to no have a skip button for everything else in the game, even if you’re a super lore lover most side quest don’t have any good lore it’s clearly just there to keep people playing longer, it’s also crazy that some side stories are 1 hours + but it’s even crazier when some side quests are 3-6 hours long with NO SKIP BUTTON 😬 it genuinely got so painful doing 3 hour+ long side quests with bloated dialogue made just to waste my time I’ve stopped doing them since sumeru
Then don’t do the side quests? It’s like story players asking to have a skip button so that they get 36 stars in abyss.
@ I literally said I don’t do them anymore but thanks for reminding me ig??? 🤣 and no that’s not even close to the same thing what a horrible comparison 💀💀 the point of abyss is a dps / skill check on your characters that you have spent weeks building to clear the last floor but the story doesn’t require any skill or investment you literally just watch it ( I thought that was common sense 😭😭 ) a lot of ppl don’t pay attention or leave it on in the back ground, you can’t do that in the abyss you actually have to play 💀 and like he said multiple times in the video IF YOU LIKE THE STORY A SKIP BUTTON DOESN’T AFFECT YOU AT ALL ITS OPTIONAL NOT MANDATORY
agree on both not adding a skip button on the archon quests and adding a skip button for world quests/story quests, it's freaking annoying to waste time esp on something that i barely care about, not being selfish but there's a lot of reason to skip some of the game's story regardless if they are lore related or not, OR atleast have an option to 2x the speed of dialogues
although, i kind of understand the fact that they're most likely gatekeeping the primos that comes along on those quests since if it has a skip button you'll finish every single quest under 5 minutes
@xi4nyun Frankly, this game is easy and doesn’t require much skill to clear abyss, just persistence and grinding. And I never said that there shouldn’t be a button. A button ‘with no other change’, however, poses a significant problem with disincentivization. very few people would, when deciding between skipping or questing, choose to quest if the rewards were the same. There need to be incentives to invite people to quest and explore the lore, and that could be done through additional rewards to questers that would not be in the rewards for skippers, should there be a skip button. Even if there are some people who hate lore, there are plenty of people who could enjoy it that would also be more likely with some additional incentive to decide to quest.
@@katelynholmes9504 I literally said I don’t do them bc there’s isn’t a skip button if there was I would 💀💀
my thing is that people who beg for a skip button always have like 3% exploration and log on for 10 secs a day to uncap resin and log off. At that point the game really is just a story game so why would you want a skip button. And oh dont even get me started on the people who skip story but still fight to be included in lore conversations.
Agree with some of your points. It’s odd that people will say combat and abyss doesn’t take that much time, but artifact farming and character training DOES take a lot of time, spread over multiple days. You can totally do that with lore too- a bit at a time- but lore is completely optional most of the time. I for one auto play quests while I do chores, and find that it doesn’t take up much of my free time at all, and I can still enjoy the story
"Having skip button in event/abyss gives the player option" "You have to do this event/abyss for primos, I want to just enjoy story and my wifu character let me just skip and get those primos"
He did in fact got stunt locked
Me when i see someone getting cooked by an opinion i lowkey agree with
frr
This is just my belief but there has to be a proven but behind-closed-doors reason why there's no skip button in Genshin. I'm talking about psychologist-proven research result that adding a skip button is against the goal of Genshin as a product/service. Because there's no way Hoyo would go against feedback as widespread as this. My own theory is that - if you can skip through dialogues, players will gradually care less about the game. Now, spending more time in a game doesn't translate directly to investment/engagement. But it works most of time. It works so well that it's everywhere now. That's why battlepass that takes 20-30 hours to grind is the new norm. That's why episodic or segmented media that requires you to come back every week is the new norm. Designing something that requires time is easier than designing something to engage millions of players at the same time.
The reason why I believe this - is because it actually works on me. ZZZ has skip button and its gameplay is relatively less time-consuming than Genshin, and I end up caring about it way less. Now, it might be because I've been playing Genshin for longer, but I'm willing to play it more than ZZZ just because I feel like the game wants me to spend time with it more. Even in the end ZZZ still has spam-clicking dialogues more than actually skippable ones, my point still stands.
But tons of people who want a skip button dont read genshins Story and still play, or find it awful and still quit. (Also an expirement with only you is biased towards you)
I agree, and I think that’s one of the primary reasons.
wait the stream hasnt even ended but already clipped ICANT
also long time no see!
Based Zy0x
0:01 he woke up that day AINTNOWAY
He stall so long, he didn't play Wuwa Omegalul
I think a skip button is only viable if the quest doesn’t change your knowledge about the main story line, or if the quest becomes old content.
I have some friends who have been playing since genshin came out and some who have just downloaded the game as of last year. Yet both havent even tried to clear the fog from Tsurumi Island better yet unlock the sub-areas like Enkanomiya, Chasm, etc. For my friends who just started playing, i kind of feel bad because they have to go through so much content in order to grasp the storyline. While the older ones just aren’t motivated to play because the quests take up way too much time or just aren’t relevant to current game content. Adding a skip button to a quest(let’s say the quest came out in 3.0 and we’re currently in the 5.0 margin) that’s more than about 3-5 updates old would be nice for players who get overwhelmed by the amount of content the game produces.
Some people could argue that it’s just a game and that you shouldn’t feel pressured to clear all the content within a week of it coming out, but some people get spoiled by the stuff they see online due to some game servers obviously being up before others or by the leakers who are quick to share everything online with no warning. Which would make both kinds of players even more likely to ignore the quest even if there are rewards locked behind it. A skip button is only good for certain cases, which don’t include the newest content or main dialogue.
Another option could be to take away certain time gates so that people feel more motivated to progress through the story line. I remember there’s a reputation quest in Inazuma where you have to plant some sort of seed in the waters of Enkanomiya, and then come back the next day. Quests as old as this one shouldn’t have a time gate. And if they do, it should be using the in game clock instead of the IRL one.
You make great points, id agree. I’d only caveat to say that it’s not completely impossible to avoid spoilers if you avoid the right online locations and navigate well.
@katelynholmes9504 True, staying away from every single spoiler or leak is impossible. And sadly hyv can’t catch every single leaker. I’d just say it’s best to just stay away from social medias like tiktok, youtube, or instagram, which tend to have the most leaker/spoiler content. It’s just sad that someone would have to go through all that just to enjoy the game.
think skip button for non archon/character quests is fine as it is optional content anyways. It should absolutely not be present on archon quests tho
Holy shit 2025 new year new clipper in my fyp, how have I never seen ur channel before...
Account farmers would love the skip button lol.
Look. Currently, in Genshin, we don't have a skip button for quests.
For the lore enjoyers, that's good, but you have to take into account people with a life; those with limited time. Remember that many quests in Genshin are a requirement to unlock something, forcing players to do them. However, most of the quests in the game honestly suck and is just there to waste your time (Except the Archon quests. I love those.)
If you add the skip button, you appeal to everyone in the game, not *just* the lore enjoyers. People who don't care about the story or don't have time to play the game can progress and unlock stuff, and those that love the story, well, nothing has changed. It's a win-win situation. So April, please refute your statement with something objective and you think is better than mine.
New year, same old yapper.
I guess if there was a skip button Citlali would have less fans, hoyo wants us to see her silly faces
Your profile pic’s Kokomi is so cute!!
21:34 lmaoo as someone who started with FGO this is accurate
actual rare W take KEKWait
As much as i understand Nick.
The quests are are really good ( only if you actually pay attention)
The game's lore that i have been following for 4 years now has made me play it consistently
Adding a skip button would impact a lot
Like he said he would have skipped aranyaka if there was a skip button. But he played the quest while some what understanding a lil bit of it ( nick is not a lore player he plays for combat and i get that )
So if someone say does a quest because of no skip button and likes said quest and does more quests and starts to follow the story it will affect the persons overall Impression of the game. But if there was a skip button this would not happen. I am not saying that a skip button is not needed i am simply saying a counter argument.
I really dont care if they add a skip button i won't use it anyway
Your points are great and I agree. If we had to compromise, I’d say that there’d be special rewards during the quest for people who actually go through it that would be unavailable for the final rewards for people who skip. That way, there’s something to entice players who are undecided about whether or not to do the story. Skipping players would get some rewards but not those. That way, an incentive still exists for most people to clear the story despite the time demand if a skip button existed
as a story and lore enjoyer my biggest worry if they add skip button is giving them excuse to make story bad.
I don't want to sound rude, cause I enjoyed a lot if hoyo plotlines too. But like... The story is already bad. It's bloated, a lot development for world and characters locked behind events you can't repeat, the way game insists on making sure you know what characters about to do, hardly any nuance too (idk something like otto, not even remotely close). Not to mention, the payoff of all this won't be good in the end, cause they have to keep milking this game.
@copiumhsrgi yes I do agree with you that genshin story is not that good as hi3 or HSR,but I still worry that skip button gonna make story worse that it is now.after the skip button added the devs will start thinking "the player will skip anyways so no point make story better".
@@kunamsbinallamode2409 Again, that just doesn't make sense. Wuwa has it and a lot of people said the story has only been improving. Same goes for ZZZ, it keeps everyone happy, writers don't care if you gonna skip or not as long as player pulls or spends money.
that literally doesn’t make sense from Hoyo at all since HI3 had a skip button for years and that story had its ups and downs
@copiumhsrgi would you want a skip button in HSR?
We need a skip button, watching the story made me pull for to many characters, I didn't wanted to pull for Citlali but I played her story and now that I see she's a granny that like to get drunk I chaged my mind, I want her now
Loll
thought there was a critter in the thumbnail to the left ☹️
we are so back
I want to have a skip button in the Zyox stream to skip 2 hours stall and stunlock session)
You can do weekly bosses without doing their quests and events aren't gatekept by archon quests for a while now. The only the reason to do them if you want the primo, and if you can't stand doing quests, then rip bozo, don't do them.
I am fine with a skip button for story if I can stop wasting my time in abyss and just skip that too.
So taking the gameplay aspects away from a video game of over coming a challenge and earning a reward. Making the gameplay worse for people who care about it. When adding a skip button changes nothing for people who choose to engage with the story? How childish
@@Doobydoe It seems to be a challange for you guys to just go through a story. Low attention span is something that children have a problem with. So don't call me childish. I don't want the abyss to be skipable the same way I don't want the story to be skipable. Because both are a bad idea. Even if I don't enjoy the abyss.
@@KizKim lmao what a strawman. How about I start calling you mentally challenged for not wanting to engage with the game's "hard content", yeah that must be the reason, right? If someone doesn't want to engage with the content I like it's because they are not capable and not because they simply do not care about what that content has to offer by engaging with it. Again, childish.
@@Doobydoe You called me childish. Again just now btw. But sure buddy. You are right :)
@@KizKim You accuse me of having low attention span while completely ignoring my arguments to focus on the "insult" at the end... Skipping most of what's written just to get to the end, because you don't wanna engage with the content, huh, that rings a bell. I diagnose you with low attention span. Have a good day 😄👍
The story is literally an isekai, not even a goated or funny one, just a mid isekai that loses money on every frame.
story focused lmao it's fucking gacha game!!! there maybe some people who pull a character just because they like them, but hyv want us to spend money on the game. why would people c6 a character just for them to look pretty?
i don't get why these people like to gatekeep genshin like this. even with the arguments like “people would misunderstood a character” i still don't get it. i know that we like to see ourselves in a character in some way. but i don't think it's wrong for people to interpret a character differently from other people. it's just part of the art. and more importantly, why would a skip button bother you so much? why does the fact that a lot of players don't care about the story bothers you?
i personally have stopped paying attention to the story since inazuma, but i never complained about the story because i know it's A PART of the game. i just wished they'd let me skip it.
LITERALLY there's people defending genshin's decision to put mavuika and citlali together while giving rewards the day their banners are gone because they think genshin is story focused 💀🙏 girl if you think the majority of the playerbase is playing for the story you haven't played any other games, genshin's story is good but not the best thing ever
No one is talking abt this but the reason is because quest dialouge in genshin and hsr are loaded in a cutscene (world quests arent) so its hard to implement like zzz or wuwa which loads cutscenes with the ingame models
Yeah, that is a game design problem, but player shouldn't be punished for this decision. Not to mention, the least they could do make animations faster.
@@copiumhsrgi yeah. But fun fact, ALL SIDE QUESTS ARE LOADED WITH THE MODELS MEANING THEY COULD BE SKIPPED BUT THEY DIDNT IMPLIMENT IT EVER
what vod is this
from his most recent stream (Jan 3-4)
Nikke has a better story than genshin and it has skip button. 😅
NO. As a Nikki fan
bro chose a coomer game as an example of a better story out of so many others lmao
@@FirstLast-fl1co u can have a coomer game with good lore.
@@FirstLast-fl1co nikke is both a coomer game and a good lore game. Those two coexist. Plus... don't act as if genshin didn't have a questionable target audience too. "Oh yeah most mortal characters have vague age groups and we have immortal gods who look like toddlers haha"
genshin story is mediocre at best, the people enjoying the combat and exploration of it will literally suffer no consequence from a skip button
if the devs wanted us to read it, they should put some effort into it
Agreed... especially because so many good parts are locked behind events. Also, it's a "story game" but your choices don't even matter except in hangouts (HANGOUTS ARE GOATED!!!!!!!)
The worst part is that not having a skip button affect lore enjoyers themselves. I had some chapters I enjoyed, Sumeru was great personally. I'm hyped for Snezhnaya, but I didn't like Natlan. So you're telling me I'm forced to sit through 8 hours of natlan quests JUST to get to Snezhnaya? Don't piss me off. Not to mention how much content is locked behind quests too. Story quests, exploration, reputation, dailies, hangouts... like, at this point it feels like they're turning their game into a chore. If you want ice cream you need to eat your vegetables, except in this analogy vegetables are useless and a waste of time. At least broccoli is good for my body.
@@Itsukikiwa True, I don't know why people barely talk about this, but what's the point of having to choose dialogue if in the end it doesn't matter? Cause Breath of the wild had it I guess... But then they kept it in their other games too, like HSR writing pisses me off even more. And it doesn't affect world quests at least, so then maybe some replay value or fate of NPC would be different (i can dream)
@@copiumhsrgi and the fact having a choice system would be so much more enjoyable, because you'd REPLAY it to get another ending. I have over 100 hours on omori because I wanted to analyse every ending and get the hidden achievements, I don't regret a single second. But nooo, the traveler can't have opinions or a personality, they're a self insert.
Maybe not even change the whole story, but at least reward me with an extra cutscene or smth... like that one hidden cutscene in hsr when you choose to leave the room in penacony, that was hilarious. Copy paste that type of humor into the whole game I beg. It's less boring.
this comment section shows how you all are so brainrotted you forgot how to read
The idea that people don't want to waste hours and hours doing terribly-written and incredibly bloated quests equates to lack of reading comprehension is laughable. You just want to insult people for the sake of it. You're not better than anyone because you like to read walls of text filled with nonsense all day.
What's there to read? Genshin isn't sure as hell Disco Elysium (a game that did put me into existencial crisis by just a few sentences. And it funny af!) for me to care about three paragraphs of the same thing repeating that just happened.
Or yeah, hearing that dove dialogue for three times is sure time spent well.
This is like story players wanting to get all the rewards from 36-starring abyss without building their characters. Would socks be behind that? I think it’s pretty unfair imo, especially when world quests aren’t even required. Just do what meta players say to story players: “just don’t do the content you don’t like.” Don’t do the world quest and then complain that you did it
Except spyral abyss is supposed to be a video game challenge, you put time skill and effort and you get rewards, it's how vídeo games work, since the beginning. Going through the story takes no effort and is just a waste of time if you don't want to engage with it because it's not actual gameplay. Genshin is not a visual novel, it's a video game no matter how much focus it gives to the story, and the analogy does not work
@Doobydoe If going through the story takes no effort, you wouldn’t be making all these posts responding to me. It takes a lot of time and investment to make your characters good, and once they are, clearing abyss doesn’t require much skill at all, compared to duelist challenges.
@Doobydoe And “actual gameplay” is a ‘very’ subjective term. Story-only enjoyers, for instance, may consider the story enjoyable gameplay. Yes, there’s some combat in it, and things to experience. I believe the analogy works perfectly fine.
@Doobydoe And you haven’t addressed the fact that people still want all the rewards despite not having invested the time into them, or why you can’t just not do the ones that aren’t essential to unlocking an entire region or play style, for instance- and those are very few.
@@katelynholmes9504 no it does not take effort, mashing the A button and praying that it ends soon because I'd rather be doing something else is not putting in effort. I'm making posts because it's completely stupid to not let the player choose if they wanna go through the dialogue or not, when every game has the skip feature, even other Hoyo games.
Cap. 😂😂😂 I dont think majority or even half of the players based their pull on the story. It's always the power of the character. Even if you dont put a story on nuevillete, he is still the strongest and 90% of players would want to pull him. If they dont want the sales to get hurt, they should stop doing s2pd characters and stick with what they are doing in natlan. The best region so far. Every 5 star character is cracked.
Genshin’s mobile revenue has dropped by 40 percent since 2023. Besides, players can also pull based on gameplay, synergy with current teams or just straight up simping. There are basically no must-pulls in this game, why do you have to make it about the meta?
Chasca’s story made her look awesome and really endeared her to me. I don’t think pulling for strength is the only reason everyone pulls for characters. I do agree that I’m a little sick of people whining and complaining about Natlan and the main elements of Genshin lol we should probably just chill and enjoy ourselves
Meant *we as current Genshin enjoyers* and not everybody as whole, who are allowed to be upset in their own space ofc
We literally can just not do all non archon quests to progress if we don’t care about achievements, story or rewards. What a crybaby.
Yeah he doesn't wanna waste his time on some mid story because they gate keep important resources, truly what a crybaby is and not the people who are against something that would change nothing about how they play the game
Dude some areas and domains are literally locked behind quests. Especially now in natlan where elixirs also require exploring. You can't just call it "crybaby" when a game which has a bunch of content besides the story limits your experience if you don't do the quests. That's like telling your kid to eat their vegetables if they want ice cream, except the vegetables are plastic and don't do shit to your body.
There are only a few quests that lock domains nowadays- most of those are in the older regions for old artifact sets and characters. Frankly, if people hate the story, don’t want anything to do with it, and just button mash, and at the same time contradictorily think the game is unplayable without playing the quests for some reason, why play Genshin which has so many “obstacles” and just play another combat game?
Leave it to Zyox to be a lore skipper. God I hope they don't add a skip button.
Why? If you don't want to use it, don't. It wouldn't affect you at all.
@@MT-dn4tu If it was a skip button for smurf accounts and they track if you've already finished a quest in your main account then yes I'd love that too cause it's annoying asf doing everything again. But will I have to power to make lore skippers stfu whenever there's lore discussions? No? Oh okay.
@@Kim_Imyoung No idea what you're talking about, but it still doesn't affect your gameplay experience.
@@MT-dn4tu Can you read
@@Kim_Imyoungyou can just ignore those people.... it isnt your job to babysit those people anyway lol
How about stop playing the game? More time for you to have with your life. But no, of course you want all the rewards, the resources and free primogems without having to spend any effort.
PLAYING THROUGH THE STORY TAKES ZERO EFFORT. I can just put on a yt video on the side and button mash through it, it just wastes your time
@@Doobydoe right like bro is talking like spamming your mouse while reading lore you're not even allowed to make choices in is "effort"
Ah yes learning about random NPC #4032's sad background story and doing absolutely nothing with it at the end of his quest, takes effort.