The ending with the man dying on the street is not about faith in humanity or whether people will stop and help. It's all about making Gi-hun bet on his first human life, showing he is not better than any of them. Il nam won the 7th game the moment Gi-hun took the bet. Gi-hun could’ve left the room and helped the drunk man himself but he chose to stay and watch from above, just like the VIPs watched the games
Thank you!!! I was thinking the same thing. All along I was waiting for him to go outside and help the homeless but he didn’t because he is an hypocrite
More like a game of chance instead of a game with strategy? Funny, reminds me of how the Elite says "you can get to the top if you work hard and think smart" while they try to indebt you, bribe politicians, avoid taxes. It reminds me of how getting rich is more a game of chance, than actual strategy since a market crash can vaporate your whole capital while the elite gets bailed out
@@krytzzz well not directly but it made her pass out due to blood loss, enough for sang-woo to sneak up and kill her. They were supposed to be put in good health for the final game, as they were given a full meal, but she wasn't offered any medical help for the glass injury they negligently caused her
@@JaneParkerBowls I didn't get why the glass was even blown up like that? To tie it to fairness, if it was done to injure players before the last round, how is that fair when they made it to the end of the bridge by playing by the rules?
@@JoeMama-kj7bq Even after he was exposed, I still find it incredibly hard to believe that he was friends with scumbags like them due to his warmheartedness with Gi Hun. You know he was a powerful and impactful character when you still view the main antagonist in a fond light
Another issue I have with the fairness of the games is the fact that they never said it was last man standing. They only said whoever finishes all six games wins the money. That would mean that multiple people could win
It wasn't last man standing. The final squid game can be played with as many players as you can imagine. Especially since they stand on one leg and can take up way less space. Sure if they tread outside the gameline they'd die and if a full team of 10v10 was in the game it would be hard not for at least one person to not step outside. The second to final game already proved that they could keep the marble and bring it into the game. So could they have used their glass waterbottles or marbles to break the glass that isnt tampered. The reason why they cut the lights were because the VIP's had arrived and it's a metaphor for how the elite will switch up the rules according to their mood.
Last man standing is a terrible metaphor for capitalism. Anyone can start their own business and become rich. Communism is a better metaphor where there is a ruling class and a working class; and it’s a zero sum game for the resources available as the state owns all resources
@@TKUA11 however the current state of society is a mixture of capitalism with communist characteristics, aka the market is capitalist but when rich people don’t get their way then they can command the government to intervene in their favour and collect money from everyone and give it to them
@@TKUA11 "Anyone can start their own business" No they can't. You need money to make money. You need money for at least a few of the following depending on the nature of your business: Supplies Rent and Utilities on a building Shipping cost Advertising costs Employees They say on average it takes 2-3 years for a business to be profitable. Someone living paycheck to paycheck or burdened with medical costs is not going to be able to afford the initial costs let alone wait 2-3 years for a paycheck. On top of that when you are already rich, you can afford to try a bunch of things to see what works. If 5 out of the 10 businesses you tried work then it's not as devastating a loss as a working class person who's one mistake could cost them their only livelihood.
I didn't cry, but it did get me a bit sad and upset. Although I did notice that they didn't show him getting shot. I also recall finally seeing the host (only from behind), and noticed his slight build, and old hands. I missed his gray and white hair, but suspected the plot twist because he had no fear in "Red Light, Green Light" and was the first to advance without being stunned by all the dead participants around him. When I saw a card had "gganbu", I realized 001 is still alive and is the host.
In India or rest of the world there are reality games are like squid games . Where participants do not die but they are sent back home . May be the director got the knowledge of it .
@@MissLaadyG The thought of getting slapped would give me even more of an urge to confirm what happens during elimination. Mostly out of the fear of getting slapped again
I think the way the players don't know the first game is deadly until it is also another commentary on how many get into debt without fully understanding the consequences of whatever caused them to get into debt in the first place.
Eh are u sure about that? They sign a form that they can read about what they’re signing up for. I feel like a better metaphor is communism, where it is sold as a fair system and everyone is happy, but instead they get a tyrannical dictator.
@@kolgax2064 In soviet russia, competition does not earn pitifuly monetary reward. Contender competes for second class luxury suite! Losers work Gulag. Is fair, da, comrade?
I just wish we learned or saw more of the policeman and his brother (the front man). It's a plot point I was very interested in and it went by so quick!
It appears that the policeman may still be alive and was just shot in the shoulder. To me it makes sense because the Front Man even gave his kidney to his brother, so he may not have even intended to kill him.
Also the heirarchy is determinded by they amount of angles (defined as finite vertices) on the mask, the circle has 0 ,triangle is 3, square is 4, the frontman has a load, and the vips have way to many angles to count
Really felt bad for the mirror manufacturer.He lost his life just because those stupid VIP's were bored and didn't enjoyed seeing him working with strategy.
@@a.p4066that’s not the point of the show, it is a critique of capitalism and how it drives regular working people to drastic measures in these conditions. Sang Woo wouldn’t have pushed him if the VIPs didn’t demand the lights be shut off
@@stopplayingwiththefuckingi2054 Sang Woo pushed him because Sang Woo made the DECISION to push him, just like Gihun made the DECISION to spare Sang Woo’s life and forfeit the entire winning prize
This really does does speak to how some ultra wealthy people will justify the most unethical things to feed their egos, pockets, and dark desires. Often preying on the vulnerable in the process. If you’ve got enough money to buy a whole darn island, you’ve got enough money to invest in people to help them help themselves and tackle inequality. Anyway, excellent acting by Yeong-su Oh. Finally getting global recognition after a long career.
Exactly! Why not create a non-profit organisation and put all his money in there to help people in need! That would bring me more joy and meaning to my life than creating sadistic games to entertain myself and other rich assholes!
That’s why I have zero sympathy for the old man! I find it annoying that TV and movies nowadays are making excuses for villains and turn them into sympathetic characters. We’re all responsible for our actions no matter what happened to us and our circumstances. For example you can’t be an asshole and treat people horribly at work then say it’s because you’re going through a tough time in your personal life! Bullshit!
I think it's ironic to see how we see some people "sympathizing" with number one when he died, even though they would hate on sang woo no problem. Shows how the series accurately portraits reality, the people down the line gets the blame, the upper ones get sympathy, even when what they're doing is far more destructive and harmful.
The story was about the human condition and how greed corrupts people. A sophisticated story teller gives depth to the "villains" in the story. Mature adults don't see individuals as purely bad and purely righteous. That's some nonsense that universities in the west are trying to indoctrinate students into believing. It's the same thing religious leaders used to do to maintain control over their subjects as well. I don't think you understand the true theme of that show.
@@JKweez Writers try to give "depth" to villains because they're in denial and humanity in general are in denial that people can do evil, and their intentions doesn't have to be complex or justified. When you kill thousands and thousands of people for your own entertainment, "depth" of your personality or your morality doesn't change the fact that there were people killed, and in comparison, it really doesn't matter.
@@user-nb2ub9hn8s You can view Il-nam as evil, but do not deny that he is human. He is deeply flawed, and searching in the last moments of his life for the unadulterated joy of childhood. He has been corrupted by wealth and power, but he is not some otherworldly figure. Always remember Hitler was a human, Stalin was a human, serial killers are all human. Given the right circumstances anyone can commit acts most might deem evil. To suggest writing a human villain who has depth is to be in denial of the evil people do is frankly ridiculous. Villains in the real world to not have horns and pointy sticks, they are not caricatures...they are people just like the rest of us, people who have made different choices. Writing a sympathetic villain, whose motivations the audience understands even if they find the actions the villain takes abhorrent, is not being in denial. It is showing evil in its true form...its human form.
@@stephendoe7594 evil doesn't mean a person has horns or some cartoonish villain laughs. He's human alright, but his morals are twisted. Hitler was a human too, so what now? Go and sympathize with him? My original comment is clear, you can have a 10 hour long depth analysis for this guy, doesn't change the fact that he was a horrible person who abused the flawed system that gave him advantage, then decided to kill so many people and destroy their lives as well as their families' just because he wanted to have fun. If I'm supposed to give sympathy I'd rather give it to those who deserves it.
@@user-nb2ub9hn8s I think what the character is trying to bring out is that two truths can exist at once. The actions being judged on their own and the justifications on it's own.
@@breadfdx luckily evolution isn’t about man made death traps. also evolution is not survival of the fittest if it was snails wouldn’t exist but here they are just snailing around
Even if it may be for entertainment, the point is that they all got a relatively fair chance to get back onto their feet. In the first game, with the first player death, it should have been obvious by then that elimination meant death. They all even signed the legally binding agreement. Hell, they even came back after Il-Nam gave an opportunity for them to leave. It was also clear he wanted the fairness to continue by his dislike of the midnight slaughtering and fights. They had a chance to leave, and the innocence may not be true for all of them. Some, like Gi-Hun, yes. But others like Deok-su and his team of gangsters were clearly not. Even though they were gangsters, they were all given a fair and equal chance.
Another thing I feel like no one is talking about is how every player has a chip implanted behind their ear when they arrive, maybe that’s how they’re able to know where the players are at all times? Even when they’re back in the real world?
But that is for the player's protection. The easier option would be for the game organisers to just kill everyone who decided not to play. This way, they don't have to kill everyone. There is obviously a non disclosure agreement in place allowing those people to go back to their lives, one that has consequences if its broken. Break it at your peril. That's as fair as fair can be. An opt out clause that allows people to return to their lives, unmolested. Rules are rules, and everything is above board. No-one is being duped, or lied to.
@@nodiggity9472 makes no sense gi hun goes to the police to talk its not like the police will believe anything someone says without evidence which they wont have ever
It’s true that he probably wasn’t safe from the big targeting doll in red light green light, but considering he’s probably watched this game plenty of times, he knows exactly when the doll is going to say red light and turn around, especially considering he stopped walking almost every time a split second before the doll turned around.
I don't think that requires any special knowledge, and everyone should be able to tell when it was going to turn around. What made him so good at the game was he walked with a very balanced and stable stance, where as if you just run you have a harder time coming to a complete stop. After all, most of the people who played the game survived(there was definitely a huge number who died because they ran away, so subtracting those out, it had a higher survival rate).
I interpreted Ilnam's death differently. I saw it as symbolism of his mind being unable to accept the reality of his actions. Evil people rarely believe that they are evil. Their ego will create a rationalisation as to why their bad deeds are justified. In Ilnams case, he believed that he was doing the less fortunate members of society a favour. Despite the 1/456 survival rate and sadistic nature of the game, he justified this by believing no-one else in society would help these people. When he was on his death-bed, he was so confident in his belief that he bets that the homeless man would be left outside to freeze. When someone finally comes to help the homeless man, his illusion is shattered. He was forced to face the fact that people in society do care, and are willing to help the less fortunate. He no longer had a reason to justify all the killing caused by the game. His mind cannot handle the fact that he's nothing more than a monster, which is why he is shown to die almost instantly.
@@angellightraven8257 But he didn't, his ego and hubris contorted his ideals of humanity and society so much so that his vanity and pride prevented him from seeing any wrong in his work. He considers himself morally justifiable up until the end, which makes his character so intrinsically evil yet so interesting.
@@anonymousperson4370 Might I add that it’s entirely possible Il-nam’s childhood took place during WWII (when Imperial Japan occupied Korea), and he lived through the Korean War and the aftermath. He probably bore witness to so much death, destruction and heinous atrocities that he came to believe that humans are inherently good for nothing beyond it, and compassion is a sham. His way to escape it was to make so much money he would never suffer again, but what he didn’t expect was that pleasure would also lose its meaning.
Il-nam said "If anyone," pauses to look significantly at Gi-hun, "goes to help the drunk before [midnight], you win". I fully expected Gi-hun to go down and help the man himself, which would have fit with his personality, and was disappointed he didn't. He could have at least called the police to check on him.
Gi hun was not in his complete mentally and physically fit state. For one year he had been living like a hobo and he was in an emotional turmoil when he found out il nams true identity. He needed answers at that time, that's why he stayed and simply listened to the old guy.
@@LuffywillfinditBut just because he is selfish it doesnt make him wrong. Hes right in that the games are unjust and that the world *does* need to change. People being selfish and irrational is a product of extreme circumstance, so naturally the solution should be to reduce the frequency of those circumstances for as many people as possible rather than further entrenching them via punching down the weak. Thats not to say people arnt inherantly selfish, only to say that they dont *need* to act that way.
He wanted to have fun in playing in the games.. he did put his life at risk...but he had some advantages During red light green light..I saw this theory that the doll does not detect player il naam..and he was the only one who was smiling and happy while all others were scared...during the midnight fight he was actually helped by the team of the front man to get to the top where no one could kill him...the tug of war was risky but since he knew the perfect strategy it was somewhat less risky...during marbles if u saw he was the only one sitting in the corner not choosing anyone coz he thought that no one would choose the old man and he would easily escape since people would have thought he was killed...but since gi hun chose him...he tricked him till the end and waited for everyone else to either die or leave and then let gi hun win...bcoz he could not take the risk of the glass stepping stones games since anyone could push him and he didn't know the order.....also bcoz he had to attend the vips..so ya he is a mastermind
Yeah, he really was just playing for fun. He wasn't playing for money, he wasn't intending to play all the games, and he probably wasn't ever in any *real* danger. He just wanted to feel alive again, one last time. Everyone, playing like children, when you had nothing but games.
That's right! After tug-of-war, there are 40 survivors, but the doctor is caught and killed, so the marbles game starts with 39 survivors, leaving 1 unpaired. If it's him, he can be passed off as "killed", and nobody will suspect anything. As it happened, the prostitute is unpaired, but she is allowed to go on to the glass bridge game.
Well, how did you feel when you found out Il-nam wasn't dead, and in fact, was the one behind these games of death? Betrayed? Can't take back those tears.
I don't think the staff of squid game would keep an eye on the people who didn't return to just kill them. More like they'll keep an eye on the people who will live another year of their own personal hell and then invite them again to the squid games. They'll end up being more desperate and more willing to accept the invitation
The 14 left the game, knowing what had happened on that island. They must be monitored in case they raise a public stink about the game. The other folks in the game will be (or are already) dead, except the winner, who likely will be happy to get such a large windfall and won't complain.
The game in the beginning was without informed consent and even after people were informed and given a chance to leave it's still extremely unethical because they exploited the people's desperation for money which they themselves created. And the way they treated the game as entertainment is highly dehumanizing.
They lacked a capacity to contract due to economic duress. The legal system has laws regarding capacity to contract for those who are under the age of majority, mentally impaired, intoxicated or subject to physical or economic duress for a reason. The host knows that the contestants have nowhere else to turn. He knows that most of them suffer addictions, are incompetent or at least have a history of making irrational decisions out of desperation. If we really want to get in the weeds of it, the contract lacks consideration on the part of the contestants, which would make it unenforceable. The consideration was the lives of the players, which was not explicitly stated in the contract. One might argue that the consideration was the performance of the players, but that is clearly not true as they only add money into the piggy bank when a player dies.
The old mans logic is that they would have died on the outside world or suffered a lot more (like the guy freezing on the street final episode) compared to the consequent deaths in squid game. His logic is that the deaths in the game are just putting them out of their misery and suffering, and that humanity is unjust. Still a stupid logic because with that money he could have helped donate it or something instead of putting people out of their misery
@@katliit9442 Charity is a crap shoot. It does nothing to address the "root" problem of poverty and the money eventually is exhausted. So in the end it solves nothing and is unlikely other billionaires will follow example once the money supply runs out and you have nothing to show for. The old man at least died having fun which was his entire motive for hosting the Game.
@@davidskelly3046: Yes, getting rid of a few poor peoples' debt usually doesn't solve their underlying problems with money. It only lets them continue on to get into more debt. And the rich will still run out of money before all the other folks' debts are covered. The average 2020 US household debt is $140,416, while the median was $65,000. A million dollars will spare 7 to 16 typical households.
Glad you're having a great time making these. I know that's when I make my best videos. It's almost unreal how we get to do something fun and so many people actually watch it.
What I’d really like to know is; what would they have done if EVERYONE panicked during the first game and got shot ? How do they get away with 455 people suddenly going missing ? (Excluding the old man obviously) And also how have they gotten away with it since 1988 ?? Surely there would be more suspicion over hundreds of people disappearing every year ?
Well, they were on the toppest of the social hierarchy, so they could simply bribe off the ones who should catch them for doing such a thing, or maybe they have control over this stuff.
@@sports_xf1 it leads me to believe the police are actually fully aware, that would maybe explain why the officer in the second episode doesn’t believe anything Seong tells him
Cops aren't going to invest much time investigating missing people that are mostly criminals. Sang-woo had some serious agents after him so that's a rare case where I feel like they could really get close to becoming aware of the games. But also, Jeffery Epstein bribed every level of authority and accountability during his entire life, so rich people truly do get away with complex schemes like this.
There’s about 500 people that go missing every year so it won’t look too suspicious. Plus if they’re heavily in debt or criminals on the run, they’ll just think they fled to another country or suicide or murdered
I don’t care what anyone says. That final scene with him and Gi-Hun is fantastic and thought provoking and it is the perfect catalyst for Gi-Hun’s rebirth.
IM OBSESSED WITH THESE VIDEOS! I watched Squid Game & wasn’t clear on so many things. Now that I’m watching your videos the whole show makes so much more sense! PLEASE MAKE MORE 🥰
Something that I never got is the games and how they didn’t match up with the philosophy behind them. Okay, so we’ve established that the games are meant to give equal treatment to the players since they faced inequality from the outside world, and this message is held during red light, green light and the honeycomb shape game, but what about tug of war or the glass game? In tug of war, the men were unfairly given the upper hand because of biology, and the glass game gave the players who had the higher numbers a definitive chance of winning compared to those who picked the lower numbers. Hell, one of the players ended up getting severely wounded not from the game itself, but because the glass accidentally punctured her stomach at the end of it. It’s more like a game of chance instead of a game where actual strategy needs to be used. Edit: guys, I know the VIPS and the host are supposed to be hypocrites. It’s just weird how none of the other characters seemed to call this out or realise that some of the games were absolute BS compared to others.
8:43 actually when they're all laying on the floor its shown that his locks are gone, they were faulty. So the only point he wouldve been in danger would have been when they started killing each other at night and notice how the frontman didnt stop it until Il Nam said he was scared.
It never occurred to me that the contradiction of the games fairness would be an expression of how we’re told that the free market is fair.. but some that dominate lobby and change rules to suit their own interests.
The free market is fair. The issue is PEOPLE. Human beings. It is the greedy who keep everyone else down. If it wasn't capitalism is would be another system. There is sadly no way of controlling human nature, else you destroy humanity. Many films/books and real history have shown this. So many of these things are not critiques of the system, but of the people. You think the poor would be different if they were the rich? See Kaiji (the japanese anime this seems to be inspired by). It shows the nature of humans much more.
I think they killed the ones who didn’t return. Remember when o ill nahm met 456 at that gas station and convinced him to play the games?? I think he did that because 456 had been nice to him and he wanted to spare his life.
Why would they kill them? That makes no sense. The only "correct" thing the organizers of the game did is following their own rules, and not breaking them. When most players voted to stop the game, they indeed stopped it. The winner indeed got his prize money. So why would they kill those who decided not to return, if that's allowed by their rules? The people who didn't return are not a threat, as they don't know the place of the game, and didn't see any faces. So while the old man clearly wanted them to return, he didn't force them.
@@coenhealy-johnson5194 what’s to stop the winner from talking to the police though…?? Or why would they let them vote and leave in the first place? If they’re gonna kill the non-returners for knowing about it then they may as well kill everyone on the outside who knows including Gi-hun Or they may as well just gun down everyone there who voted no anyway, not much worse than what they were doing anyway It’s more likely they just monitor them to stop them from talking instead Then again I don’t work at the show so I wouldn’t know
@@bababababababa6124 When 456 won, even he didn't have a shred of evidence to substantiate such a patently insane story. He had no names, or witnesses, or any idea of where he'd been. It would be like going to the Police and claiming you'd been abducted by aliens, who did experiments on you, stuck probes up your tackhole, then brought you back, unharmed, with nothing to show for it except 40 odd billion dollars in your bank account. They'd just stick you in a nuthouse, and you'd never get to see any of that money again.
@@coenhealy-johnson5194 Well, Gi-Hun tried that in episode 2. And what? The policemen just laughed at him. The players have no evidence about the game at all.
Something to note: when his heart reader flat lines it apparently shows that it wasn’t properly connected, likely intentional (from a director’s standpoint) to either hint he could still be alive, or to make us theorize that he’d be
I actually thought about this maybe shark loans and the bank are connected to the games and use the debt people are in to lure them into playing so once gi hun joined the game the debt collectors job was done
@@Earth.To.Marsss The best thing he could have done was end the game, since 100 million won would have been given to the family of each person who died in the games.
He had to pay for the haircut and hair dye so he probably gave the loan sharks the money he owes, so he had to use the money to pay for the haircut and the debt
I believe Il - nam ideology would be - 'It is better for 1 person to live happily than 500 person living miserably (a condition worse than death)' 'Even if I share the money in all, they would eventually grow and fight with each other than helping someone in need' 'We can see in games, when it comes the condition to save our lives, we doesn't care even it means to kill other 455 person's, And he believes people will behave same in outside world, where for money and better living they won't care to even kill others' BUT ALL THESE ARE SILLY EXCUSES PRESENTED BY SOMEONE WHO RAN FROM THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND NOW EXPLAINING WHY 'HE WAS RIGHT!'
Great analysis! I saw a whole video by another creator about how "Number 001 did nothing wrong" basically making the point that the games were fair and it was all the players faults they were there and the VIPs were benevolent for giving them the chance to make money in the first place and honestly it was the worst take I could have imagined
Sooo… what about the glass panes? All the other games were about doing something well. The last one is pure luck, and we can see the last 3 players are the ones who come out alive. When the glass engineer tried to tell the panes apart, they cut the lights, bringing them back to luck. Also Sae-Byeok’s death felt really cheap. She won the game but died from a random glass shard. Exploding glass killing somebody isn’t rocket science, they just didn’t care. Tl;dr - I just feel the last game goes against everything they claim to do with these games. Any opinions on this?
ig after the marbles fake fairness isn’t on the player’s kind anymore. not even the money is important, just being alive is all that matters. and the vips and the game makers don’t acc care abt the players, so it’s no big deal if one gets impaled unfairly.
Great point. I think it's likely another allegory to capitalism. The previous games gave the illusion that skill and hustle were a factor in winning the competition, but clearly, this final game showed that even luck was more important than skill. In the same way that a capitalist society gives us the illusion of upward social mobility with education or skill.
@@nathanielbendahan7214 strictly plot-wise, I think it was made to please the VIPs. It’s the largest arena, very.. flashy, for lack of a better term. And the VIPs clearly don’t care about fairness, it’s all about entertainment, and being on the edge of your seat not knowing if the player you betted on is going to fall or not seems fairly entertaining
During glass walk...saw it unfair when the glass maker was correctly identifying the glass due to his experience in his glass making industry,but the foreman switched off the lights. That was unfair game according to me
Damn you killed this! I’ve been waiting for a comprehensive breakdown of all the ways this game was unethical, just to, idk… get rid of the gaslighting feel once and for all. That there was any hint of fairness. I could see it, I could name all the ways, but this was a great essay that’s a good answer to any hint of equality that’s presented to us by Number One.
If we are honest we all trade humanity for financial stability. Every manager tricking you into unpaid extra hours does it, every parent lying to their kids b/c they cannot successfully argue yet...
Humanity wants the world this way. Humans are trapped by their hunter-gatherer-raider biology. If humans were capable of truly sharing, of eliminating tribalism, of working together as equals, there would be no nations, no wars, and things like communism and socialism would actually work. But they don't, because corruption always sets in. Humans cannot feel successful, unless they can compare that success to the misfortune of many others. Humans need other humans to suffer below them, so that they can feel above and better than others. In short, humans, like all great apes, require status to feel fulfilled. Status is hierarchy, and can only exist at the expense of others. And while I do not hate humanity for this - they literally cannot help it, it is how they evolved - I do pity them, and rationally, there is no possible path to a compassionate, ethical, equal world. The species just cannot exist like that - it goes against their very biology. It is a tragedy. The only real hope I can see for Mankind, is if it can somehow redesign itself - uploading to a machine existence, nanotech, genegineering, something, anything - to make itself no longer truly human anymore. Humanity is innately cursed by the very nature that allowed it to become the dominant predator on the planet - not merely of other animals, but of itself.
Theres a moment where the front man answer the phone and tells someone on the other side “im glad you enjoyed the game sir” “our host is waiting for the vips now” so there must still be people higher than him and maybe different facilities with different host
Excellent analysis! I love how art sparks conversation about real world concepts. For me, the most important takeaway is INFORMED CONSENT! Ironically, because I grew up in a religion (Mormonism) that denies people their right to informed consent and manipulates, indoctrinates and tricks them, now as an adult I consider it to be an obvious expectation.
100% agree with your point about religion. this whole thing of ilnam claiming everyone chose to be part of the game reminds me of how people are indoctrinated into religions from their childhood but coaxed into being told that it was their choice.
@@elamrani1449 yup. In mormonism, kids are baptized at 8 years old. They are taught from birth that it is a lifelong commitment (to the church) that extends into eternity! You get a party and everyone celebrates your special day; the day you not only join the tribe and truly become part of the eternal family, but the one day where you will be the most “pure and clean” spirit in the world. With all the familial and societal pressure and expectation most kids in Mormonism don’t even realize there is actually a choice. It’s just a given that they will get baptized, or go on a mission, or get married in the temple. Or even stay a member of the religion! A choice?! Hah! 😂🙄
@@apostatelizzy6836 I am still a member and love the church, but I didn't know what baptism meant when I was 8! 😂 Many years later, I wished I hadn't gotten baptized until I was much older and understood what it was.
I was sure it was him because it was extremely coincidental to me that out of all the people the first one they pick up was some random old man with a tumor since there was no one else similar...my logic is that he's #1 because he's a returning player, possibly for decades, which is why he's so old but they still let him keep the #1 suggesting he's the "first"...even though my path of thinking was never revealed as true or untrue it led me to a good conclusion regardless
Of course it's an allegory. Not just the games and the whole setup, but even the character arcs from the North Korean moving south for opportunity only to force herself to have to literally die for a shot at a good life with her throat cut by the capitalist while down and weak, already dying; along with the Pakistani immigrant getting fooled into handing over his wealth with the promise of life and prosperity for both, to the final battle to the death being between two life long friends who had been separated by the capitalist class structure. The two of which, one is a poor worker who watched a fellow striking Union member get killed by the police which helped push him into mental health issues likely leading to gambling addiction, and the other went to a nice school which protected him into a career in finance and investment capital in which it's yet another textbook case of theft, fraud and taking the life savings from his working class small business mother and gambling it away, and in the end the worker still tried to let the capitalist live in poverty and justice for his actions, but the capitalist chose to forego having to deal with the consequences of his actions. It's all there so clear to see if you're looking at all. Then there's the fact that the entire reason for the creation of the deadly games were due to the alienation of the rich man caused by the conditions of the capitalist society.
Yeah the starving North Korean runs to South Korea and lives a “terrible” life, while not starving to death. Communism in North Korea is a lot better, since everyone starved there equally and fairly
@@TKUA11 I'm pretty sure her arc was to show that both systems have their issues. Notice how she stays silent when asked which ones worse? Also I'm pretty sure North Korea is not Communist, and also also, the reason why North Korea is in such dire straits is less to do with their economical structure, ignoring the government structure, but more to the fact that during the war that split the country, the North was bombed heavily and they received no external help, unlike the South.
Oh Il Nam is still one of my favorites. He might also be the main guy’s father. Also: Square = Manager Triangle = Soldier (only ones with guns) Circle = Worker
There were a lot of clues before episode 7 that hint to the old man being the boss or at least the boss being an old man. Especially the fact that the game started since 1988(based on the records), which means the boss must be an old person. Also, another fun thing is the old man's name is Oh il nam, "il nam" in korean can be translated as man one or man#1 or even 1st man, therefore his number is 1 and that's who he was the first player/game maker. Il=one, nam=man 😁
I love reflecting on how in the opening scene Gi-Hun states that playing Squid Game as a child is the last time he felt exhilarated… it makes me think about how competition, like when you’re a kid, is healthy when there isn’t so much at stake- when it isn’t life and death. In the last episode where Gi-Hun suggested quitting right before he could have won, he wasn’t exhilarated, but was demoralized and broken by the game - so much so that he’d give up all that money to quit and leave with his friend. That contrasts with Il-Han’s experience and choice to play. Even though he gave up in marbles. The contestants played the game because they felt like they had to, regardless of the means necessary, not because they wanted to. When you’re a kid you *want* to play and (in many cases) you don’t doubt that you’ll be called home to dinner after.
9:55 your point here is a false equivalence, if gi hun was an expert in licking candy or a candy maker then sure. but all he did was achieve the goal of the game ? the glass manufacturer DID have an advantage over everyone that would’ve meant everyone could survive.
I have mixed feelings about his big reveal at the end. On one hand, it was a fitting and thematic conclusion to the story, testing Gi-Hun's ability to trust and fairly judge other humans, but on the other hand I think it undermines his character development throughout the series. I get that there were hints to it along the way, but he was honestly one of the most powerful and believable portrayals of dementia I've seen in any medium and it's a shame the show couldn't just own that.
He already went over that. The Doc was just a normal player which the corrupt guards used since he could remove organs without damaging them. They snatch him up in the middle of the night when he goes to the bathroom and tells him the next game in return for him harvesting organs so they can sell it and make some extra money on the side. They were probably allowed to sell the organs, but the fact that they used a player from the game (since he could get more money than they could due to his experience) they got hung.
Great video as always. But Number 1 was not in danger in the Tug-of-war game, his shackles are not locked. You can see it on the shot where it pans over all of them laying on the ground just after winning. At least that is what I noticed visually, maybe I am reading too much into it.
If Il-nam's team had lost and he was the only survivor, I imagine the other players would realise the games were rigged in his favour and beat the shit out of him.
OMG! What a beautiful reflection on Il Nam’a character! I loved this video and I’m looking forward to see what else you have to say about Squid Game! ⏺🔼⏹
My thoughts are the 14 players who did not choose to participate when the games were restarted were "eliminated" aka killed due to the second clause of the agreement. "Any players who refuse to play the games are eliminated." The front man also mentioned to keep an eye on them, yet the cash prize at the end was still 45.6 billion won. How could the total reward still be this much if the 14 people were not eliminated? Perhaps the front man mention keep an eye on them and then off screen he ordered his men to kill the remaining 14 when round 2 game of honeycomb began. As the games have started, yet they "refused to play" due to being in the real world
No, they weren't killed. The games ended after game 1 finished and the survivors voted 101-100 to end them. They were offered a chance to join a continuation of the games, but 14 declined. There was no penalty to them -- they were left to resume with their lives under crushing debt. Perhaps they'll show up in next year's games, died when the organ harvesters took their key body parts, or ...
It all comes down to: 'Yeah, the bad guys lied, when they said it's about fair chances'. I still love your analysis and your comparison to real life injustice.
It’s significant year for our country because it is the year we hosted the 1988 Seoul Summer Olympics and really showed our country and name to the world
A lot of people repeat the idea that life on the outside is worse than in the games, but that's as much a lie as Il-nam's claims that what he's done is ethical. None of them had good (or even mediocre) options on the outside, but none of those options were as bad as the life or death ones in the games. The only one who really was risking life or death was Deok Su and that was kind of his own fault to be honest.
Some of the folks in debt had signed away the rights to their organs when they borrowed from loan sharks. They're unlikely to survive the harvesting procedure.
This was a really good analysis but I just want to add - the scene where ll-nam bets with Seong that someone will help the homeless man - Seong, at ANY point could have said “screw your game, I’m going to go save that man’s life and give him some of the money to help him out” but instead, he BET ON THE MAN’S LIFE and was completely willing to watch a man die directly in front of him. I think Il-nam was pointing out that Seong was just like the rest of them, and it completely went over his head. Even after ll-nam died all he cared about was that he won the bet. He had no concern for the homeless man’s well-being.
Nono, someone else made a point that if Gi-Hun went down there, he'd be proving Il-nam point right; that genuinely selfless kindness between random people on the street simply doesn't exist.
@@147edge4 if you saw someone on the street having a heart attack, would you not call 911 because some old man said “I bet you no one will help him” and you wanna win that bet? No, you’d say “you’re fucked up” and give the man CPR.
@@KallieMae It's a SHOW, they aren't gonna exactly be realistic. Gi-Hun has just been through some shit, I'm not saying he wasn't in the wrong, but in that moment it was very clear that seeing the outcome of this was EXTREMELY important to him and so he was transfixed. He wanted to know for sure that the good-spirit he'd been holding onto with Sae-Beok really existed in others, that, yes, strangers can and will sometimes lend a hand and show that they're not all greedy. If he'd gone down to help, he would've never seen that woman helping and he'd of been stuck thinking Oh Il-nam was right the whole time, he'd of been left with the old dude's mindset that everyone really doesn't care about eachother. Hell, I would've done the same and waited in his shoes.
@@147edge4 but again, then his priorities are not in order. He’s still the gambling addict he was at the beginning. He also had the opportunity to show Il-nam that HE cares about others. You’re right, he was just traumatized by watching so many people die, but now all of a sudden he’s cool with just watching another innocent person because of another sick game that Il-nam wants to play? How would that help him cope with the trauma? You can feel whatever you want but the second I saw that scene, everything in me was screaming “why aren’t you going down and giving him shelter?!?! What’s wrong with you?! You were supposed to be the one good person in this show” This scene just highlights, along with the rest of the show, one of the many parallels between Seong and Il-nam.
Great analysis, we came to some similar conclusions in our rap review of Squid Game. Great spot that the games started after Black Monday, some great detail on this video thanks very much!
no. only the 1st one didn't know. the rest saw it and knew the rules. move on green light, stop on red light. they panicked and started running, they were dead
@@margaretaada everyone would panick bruh, they didnt know that they were going to die and the 2nd person didnt even believe that he was dead, it was a perfect trap for entertainment, how are you justifying this are you a sociopath?
4:42 the rest of the 14 players weren't able to walk away from the game, instead they were killed in the outside world after they left the island, if you closely see that after they have returned, the number on the big screen in the dorm is shown as 187 players, and 26.9 billion won that means that the number has reduced from 201 players to 187 players and they have been killed after deciding not to join the squid games. If the 14 players would have been alive, their part of 100 million won wouldn't have been added to the total sum.
I dont think thats True, since They left the games and didnt return, It May be counted the same as getting eliminated in the games (aka dying) so since They didnt come back, They just counted them as eliminated and added the sum.
I'm a bit late to the party on this show, but I just finished it about two weeks ago. I loved this old man, and then the finale happened...it felt so real. I can't begin to understand how I feel about this whole thing. 😶
In the God metaphor as well, God comes down to his creation to possibly sacrifice himself to save those he loved, and despite Gi-hun's sins against him, still sacrificed himself with the marble game, so that Gi-hun could possibly make it out of hell without having to spend eternity in there.
I just thought of this (and this could be a fun thing to try and figure out) How much money have the hosts spent on the squid game in total They have been running it since '88, and that place doesent look cheap + the prize money
8:02 I think that the year when the games started has smth to do with the Olympic Games held in Seoul and Il-nam took inspiration from that. He wanted to keep the country on the map and the money flowing in
11:30 is the exact reason season 2 should have leaned in way more to the idea that its hopeless to stop, even if he magically, heck even MIRACULOUSLY, stopped the games in his country, stopping it would only leave an absence someone else will fill
The ending with the man dying on the street is not about faith in humanity or whether people will stop and help. It's all about making Gi-hun bet on his first human life, showing he is not better than any of them. Il nam won the 7th game the moment Gi-hun took the bet.
Gi-hun could’ve left the room and helped the drunk man himself but he chose to stay and watch from above, just like the VIPs watched the games
You cracked it
Thank you!!! I was thinking the same thing. All along I was waiting for him to go outside and help the homeless but he didn’t because he is an hypocrite
Damn, you’re right
Damnn that's truee
Brilliant
really glad to finally see someone point out the ideological flaw of a "fair game" with the glass bridge game all because the VIPs were bored
More like a game of chance instead of a game with strategy? Funny, reminds me of how the Elite says "you can get to the top if you work hard and think smart" while they try to indebt you, bribe politicians, avoid taxes. It reminds me of how getting rich is more a game of chance, than actual strategy since a market crash can vaporate your whole capital while the elite gets bailed out
the glass bridge game was also unfair how it killed the woman with the glass shattering despite her getting across the bridge succesfully
@@JaneParkerBowls she did not die by the glass m8
@@krytzzz well not directly but it made her pass out due to blood loss, enough for sang-woo to sneak up and kill her. They were supposed to be put in good health for the final game, as they were given a full meal, but she wasn't offered any medical help for the glass injury they negligently caused her
@@JaneParkerBowls I didn't get why the glass was even blown up like that? To tie it to fairness, if it was done to injure players before the last round, how is that fair when they made it to the end of the bridge by playing by the rules?
After he "dies" the front man gets a call and says "glad you enjoyed the game, sir"
Omg I never noticed that!?
He said it in english. He wasn't talking to the oldman but probably with some kind of vip manager
No he died gamer
@Maryum69 The VIPs were Il-nam's friends, so Il-nam could have probably spoken English, so it could still be him.
@@JoeMama-kj7bq Even after he was exposed, I still find it incredibly hard to believe that he was friends with scumbags like them due to his warmheartedness with Gi Hun. You know he was a powerful and impactful character when you still view the main antagonist in a fond light
Another issue I have with the fairness of the games is the fact that they never said it was last man standing. They only said whoever finishes all six games wins the money. That would mean that multiple people could win
It’s r/technicallycorrect but for killing people
It wasn't last man standing. The final squid game can be played with as many players as you can imagine. Especially since they stand on one leg and can take up way less space. Sure if they tread outside the gameline they'd die and if a full team of 10v10 was in the game it would be hard not for at least one person to not step outside. The second to final game already proved that they could keep the marble and bring it into the game. So could they have used their glass waterbottles or marbles to break the glass that isnt tampered. The reason why they cut the lights were because the VIP's had arrived and it's a metaphor for how the elite will switch up the rules according to their mood.
Last man standing is a terrible metaphor for capitalism. Anyone can start their own business and become rich. Communism is a better metaphor where there is a ruling class and a working class; and it’s a zero sum game for the resources available as the state owns all resources
@@TKUA11 however the current state of society is a mixture of capitalism with communist characteristics, aka the market is capitalist but when rich people don’t get their way then they can command the government to intervene in their favour and collect money from everyone and give it to them
@@TKUA11 "Anyone can start their own business" No they can't. You need money to make money. You need money for at least a few of the following depending on the nature of your business:
Supplies
Rent and Utilities on a building
Shipping cost
Advertising costs
Employees
They say on average it takes 2-3 years for a business to be profitable. Someone living paycheck to paycheck or burdened with medical costs is not going to be able to afford the initial costs let alone wait 2-3 years for a paycheck. On top of that when you are already rich, you can afford to try a bunch of things to see what works. If 5 out of the 10 businesses you tried work then it's not as devastating a loss as a working class person who's one mistake could cost them their only livelihood.
I CRIED when Il-Nam "died" and it was the first time I had properly cried in years. Only to find out that those tears went to waste.
i hope that doesn’t discourage you from crying in the future 💞 tears are never a waste
Same here, I haven’t cried like that in awhile, I was touched by his character
yeah same, I felt so betrayed by him.
I didn't cry, but it did get me a bit sad and upset. Although I did notice that they didn't show him getting shot. I also recall finally seeing the host (only from behind), and noticed his slight build, and old hands. I missed his gray and white hair, but suspected the plot twist because he had no fear in "Red Light, Green Light" and was the first to advance without being stunned by all the dead participants around him. When I saw a card had "gganbu", I realized 001 is still alive and is the host.
I want to drink those tears
I’ll never understand how 455 people didn’t think to ask “what happens when we’re eliminated”
they probably thought that they were gonna get sent home ☠️☠️
@@ivywt or get slapped
@@MissLaadyG maybe both
In India or rest of the world there are reality games are like squid games . Where participants do not die but they are sent back home . May be the director got the knowledge of it .
@@MissLaadyG The thought of getting slapped would give me even more of an urge to confirm what happens during elimination. Mostly out of the fear of getting slapped again
I think the way the players don't know the first game is deadly until it is also another commentary on how many get into debt without fully understanding the consequences of whatever caused them to get into debt in the first place.
Eh are u sure about that? They sign a form that they can read about what they’re signing up for. I feel like a better metaphor is communism, where it is sold as a fair system and everyone is happy, but instead they get a tyrannical dictator.
@@TKUA11 That doesn't make sense, sorry. You don't all compete for a huge cash prize in communism.
@@kolgax2064 In soviet russia, competition does not earn pitifuly monetary reward.
Contender competes for second class luxury suite! Losers work Gulag. Is fair, da, comrade?
@@krel7160 I'm not really sure why we're talking about communism. This show has nothing to do with it.
@@kolgax2064 I don't know either, to be fair!
I just wish we learned or saw more of the policeman and his brother (the front man). It's a plot point I was very interested in and it went by so quick!
the writer has already said that's the focus of season 2!
Wasn’t he also a former cop too?
@@MrWizeazz yes
@@MrWizeazz wait he was?
It appears that the policeman may still be alive and was just shot in the shoulder. To me it makes sense because the Front Man even gave his kidney to his brother, so he may not have even intended to kill him.
Also the heirarchy is determinded by they amount of angles (defined as finite vertices) on the mask, the circle has 0 ,triangle is 3, square is 4, the frontman has a load, and the vips have way to many angles to count
plus those are the shapes on squid game.
And the host only wears his face, which has an even less countable number of angles
@@emberdragon4248 He has an owl mask though.
The weird thing is technically a circle has the most angles because it has 360 angles
@@laykni circle workers true hosts of squidgame confirmed?
Really felt bad for the mirror manufacturer.He lost his life just because those stupid VIP's were bored and didn't enjoyed seeing him working with strategy.
He lost his life because of cold-hearted Sang woo who pushed him. He had a 50-50 chance until Sang woo gave him no choice
@@a.p4066that’s not the point of the show, it is a critique of capitalism and how it drives regular working people to drastic measures in these conditions. Sang Woo wouldn’t have pushed him if the VIPs didn’t demand the lights be shut off
@@stopplayingwiththefuckingi2054
Sang Woo pushed him because Sang Woo made the DECISION to push him, just like Gihun made the DECISION to spare Sang Woo’s life and forfeit the entire winning prize
Fr, that is just another example of the hypocrisy of the game
The dude knew how to identify the glass but watched them all die. He was stalling, could have tried to win right there. I'd have pushed him too
This really does does speak to how some ultra wealthy people will justify the most unethical things to feed their egos, pockets, and dark desires. Often preying on the vulnerable in the process.
If you’ve got enough money to buy a whole darn island, you’ve got enough money to invest in people to help them help themselves and tackle inequality.
Anyway, excellent acting by Yeong-su Oh. Finally getting global recognition after a long career.
Exactly! Why not create a non-profit organisation and put all his money in there to help people in need! That would bring me more joy and meaning to my life than creating sadistic games to entertain myself and other rich assholes!
That’s why I have zero sympathy for the old man! I find it annoying that TV and movies nowadays are making excuses for villains and turn them into sympathetic characters. We’re all responsible for our actions no matter what happened to us and our circumstances. For example you can’t be an asshole and treat people horribly at work then say it’s because you’re going through a tough time in your personal life! Bullshit!
@@PrincessAndBear Dr Doofrensmiechn: Hold my Beer-inator
Totally agree
Let's all go to the stratosphere! We don't need no stinking astronaut!
I think it's ironic to see how we see some people "sympathizing" with number one when he died, even though they would hate on sang woo no problem. Shows how the series accurately portraits reality, the people down the line gets the blame, the upper ones get sympathy, even when what they're doing is far more destructive and harmful.
The story was about the human condition and how greed corrupts people. A sophisticated story teller gives depth to the "villains" in the story. Mature adults don't see individuals as purely bad and purely righteous. That's some nonsense that universities in the west are trying to indoctrinate students into believing. It's the same thing religious leaders used to do to maintain control over their subjects as well. I don't think you understand the true theme of that show.
@@JKweez Writers try to give "depth" to villains because they're in denial and humanity in general are in denial that people can do evil, and their intentions doesn't have to be complex or justified. When you kill thousands and thousands of people for your own entertainment, "depth" of your personality or your morality doesn't change the fact that there were people killed, and in comparison, it really doesn't matter.
@@user-nb2ub9hn8s You can view Il-nam as evil, but do not deny that he is human. He is deeply flawed, and searching in the last moments of his life for the unadulterated joy of childhood. He has been corrupted by wealth and power, but he is not some otherworldly figure. Always remember Hitler was a human, Stalin was a human, serial killers are all human. Given the right circumstances anyone can commit acts most might deem evil. To suggest writing a human villain who has depth is to be in denial of the evil people do is frankly ridiculous. Villains in the real world to not have horns and pointy sticks, they are not caricatures...they are people just like the rest of us, people who have made different choices. Writing a sympathetic villain, whose motivations the audience understands even if they find the actions the villain takes abhorrent, is not being in denial. It is showing evil in its true form...its human form.
@@stephendoe7594 evil doesn't mean a person has horns or some cartoonish villain laughs. He's human alright, but his morals are twisted. Hitler was a human too, so what now? Go and sympathize with him? My original comment is clear, you can have a 10 hour long depth analysis for this guy, doesn't change the fact that he was a horrible person who abused the flawed system that gave him advantage, then decided to kill so many people and destroy their lives as well as their families' just because he wanted to have fun. If I'm supposed to give sympathy I'd rather give it to those who deserves it.
@@user-nb2ub9hn8s I think what the character is trying to bring out is that two truths can exist at once. The actions being judged on their own and the justifications on it's own.
No matter how complex his character is, nothing can justify murdering innocent people for entertainment
Survival of the fittest
@@breadfdx luckily evolution isn’t about man made death traps. also evolution is not survival of the fittest if it was snails wouldn’t exist but here they are just snailing around
You just described capitalism. :)
Even if it may be for entertainment, the point is that they all got a relatively fair chance to get back onto their feet. In the first game, with the first player death, it should have been obvious by then that elimination meant death. They all even signed the legally binding agreement. Hell, they even came back after Il-Nam gave an opportunity for them to leave. It was also clear he wanted the fairness to continue by his dislike of the midnight slaughtering and fights. They had a chance to leave, and the innocence may not be true for all of them. Some, like Gi-Hun, yes. But others like Deok-su and his team of gangsters were clearly not.
Even though they were gangsters, they were all given a fair and equal chance.
If you think incident people are drug abusers gamblers criminals muderers than yes
I really hope season 2 addresses what happened to those 14 players that decided not to reenter the game.
That would be cool
they either were k1ll3d in the outside world or they were recruited as soldiers
@@fentpusher or they are being monitored
I'm thinking they keep tabs on them and maybe send the invite again.
they didn't
Another thing I feel like no one is talking about is how every player has a chip implanted behind their ear when they arrive, maybe that’s how they’re able to know where the players are at all times? Even when they’re back in the real world?
But that is for the player's protection. The easier option would be for the game organisers to just kill everyone who decided not to play. This way, they don't have to kill everyone. There is obviously a non disclosure agreement in place allowing those people to go back to their lives, one that has consequences if its broken. Break it at your peril. That's as fair as fair can be. An opt out clause that allows people to return to their lives, unmolested. Rules are rules, and everything is above board. No-one is being duped, or lied to.
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@@nodiggity9472 makes no sense gi hun goes to the police to talk its not like the police will believe anything someone says without evidence which they wont have ever
You mean track the one person who was alive?
@@bonfirebuffallo789 15 people are alive 😊
It’s true that he probably wasn’t safe from the big targeting doll in red light green light, but considering he’s probably watched this game plenty of times, he knows exactly when the doll is going to say red light and turn around, especially considering he stopped walking almost every time a split second before the doll turned around.
I don't think that requires any special knowledge, and everyone should be able to tell when it was going to turn around. What made him so good at the game was he walked with a very balanced and stable stance, where as if you just run you have a harder time coming to a complete stop. After all, most of the people who played the game survived(there was definitely a huge number who died because they ran away, so subtracting those out, it had a higher survival rate).
But the games are different every time
@@The-MemeCow are they? I don’t remember seeing or hearing that anywhere but I’m not the most thorough show watcher so maybe I missed that
Yes i agree lil but lol the doll was not even scanning him
The doll wasn’t scanning him, so he definitely was safe
I interpreted Ilnam's death differently. I saw it as symbolism of his mind being unable to accept the reality of his actions. Evil people rarely believe that they are evil. Their ego will create a rationalisation as to why their bad deeds are justified. In Ilnams case, he believed that he was doing the less fortunate members of society a favour. Despite the 1/456 survival rate and sadistic nature of the game, he justified this by believing no-one else in society would help these people. When he was on his death-bed, he was so confident in his belief that he bets that the homeless man would be left outside to freeze. When someone finally comes to help the homeless man, his illusion is shattered. He was forced to face the fact that people in society do care, and are willing to help the less fortunate. He no longer had a reason to justify all the killing caused by the game. His mind cannot handle the fact that he's nothing more than a monster, which is why he is shown to die almost instantly.
OMG this is the first time I’ve seen this interpretation and I LOVEEEE IT!
He should have shared all his money for free, instead of making them to play a survival stupid game
@@angellightraven8257 But he didn't, his ego and hubris contorted his ideals of humanity and society so much so that his vanity and pride prevented him from seeing any wrong in his work. He considers himself morally justifiable up until the end, which makes his character so intrinsically evil yet so interesting.
@@anonymousperson4370 Might I add that it’s entirely possible Il-nam’s childhood took place during WWII (when Imperial Japan occupied Korea), and he lived through the Korean War and the aftermath. He probably bore witness to so much death, destruction and heinous atrocities that he came to believe that humans are inherently good for nothing beyond it, and compassion is a sham. His way to escape it was to make so much money he would never suffer again, but what he didn’t expect was that pleasure would also lose its meaning.
Perfect example of how a narcissist is...they never accept their wrongdoings
Il-nam said "If anyone," pauses to look significantly at Gi-hun, "goes to help the drunk before [midnight], you win". I fully expected Gi-hun to go down and help the man himself, which would have fit with his personality, and was disappointed he didn't. He could have at least called the police to check on him.
@@space_2804 Because 1) it fits with his character to help the person and 2) he'd win the game
That's what I was thinking of I thought he was gonna run down and help him b4 the time ran out cause of the way it was worded but nope
Gi hun was not in his complete mentally and physically fit state. For one year he had been living like a hobo and he was in an emotional turmoil when he found out il nams true identity. He needed answers at that time, that's why he stayed and simply listened to the old guy.
@@evilemprysshe was never that selfless you missed part of his character
@@LuffywillfinditBut just because he is selfish it doesnt make him wrong. Hes right in that the games are unjust and that the world *does* need to change. People being selfish and irrational is a product of extreme circumstance, so naturally the solution should be to reduce the frequency of those circumstances for as many people as possible rather than further entrenching them via punching down the weak. Thats not to say people arnt inherantly selfish, only to say that they dont *need* to act that way.
One thing I love about Squid game is *Front man's Mask.*
Agree bro
Same
The Moyai Emoji personalized. 🗿
Darth Vader should have upgraded to that mask
@yeti gaming tf2 they are happy.. trigger happy
He wanted to have fun in playing in the games.. he did put his life at risk...but he had some advantages
During red light green light..I saw this theory that the doll does not detect player il naam..and he was the only one who was smiling and happy while all others were scared...during the midnight fight he was actually helped by the team of the front man to get to the top where no one could kill him...the tug of war was risky but since he knew the perfect strategy it was somewhat less risky...during marbles if u saw he was the only one sitting in the corner not choosing anyone coz he thought that no one would choose the old man and he would easily escape since people would have thought he was killed...but since gi hun chose him...he tricked him till the end and waited for everyone else to either die or leave and then let gi hun win...bcoz he could not take the risk of the glass stepping stones games since anyone could push him and he didn't know the order.....also bcoz he had to attend the vips..so ya he is a mastermind
his strategy failed in tug of war
In tug of war, he wasn't locked to the rope like the others were. He had the wrist straps, but no padlock
Yeah, he really was just playing for fun. He wasn't playing for money, he wasn't intending to play all the games, and he probably wasn't ever in any *real* danger. He just wanted to feel alive again, one last time. Everyone, playing like children, when you had nothing but games.
@@MistaLister
That was debunked. You can clearly see his locks when they're all leaning backwards
That's right! After tug-of-war, there are 40 survivors, but the doctor is caught and killed, so the marbles game starts with 39 survivors, leaving 1 unpaired. If it's him, he can be passed off as "killed", and nobody will suspect anything. As it happened, the prostitute is unpaired, but she is allowed to go on to the glass bridge game.
Still hoping for the Floor is Lava game in the America contest
Mhm
Still hoping for the lava is floor in the America contest
Why not a real life re-enactment of Fortnite or a team FPS or death match?
USA:
Game 1: Floor is lava
Game 2: Cats Cradle
Game 3: hide and seek
Game 4: tag
Game 5: monkey bars
Game 6: DODGEBALL
@@Bobbing4Fries never heard of cats cradle, what is that?
I never cried during a movie or show, until I watched the marble game.
Cuz emotional attachment related deaths started with marble game.
That episode was so strong. Ali realizing he is done for and the scene with Il Nam and Gi Hun. Super sad.
i have cried before but not often but i was really sad during that episode and and last ones too
Well, how did you feel when you found out Il-nam wasn't dead, and in fact, was the one behind these games of death? Betrayed? Can't take back those tears.
@jinsakai3752 How about that man and his wife? The man had to kill his wife to spare his own life.
I don't think the staff of squid game would keep an eye on the people who didn't return to just kill them. More like they'll keep an eye on the people who will live another year of their own personal hell and then invite them again to the squid games. They'll end up being more desperate and more willing to accept the invitation
That’s exactly what I thought too! They don’t gain anything from those people dying outside the game
The 14 left the game, knowing what had happened on that island. They must be monitored in case they raise a public stink about the game. The other folks in the game will be (or are already) dead, except the winner, who likely will be happy to get such a large windfall and won't complain.
Exactly, each year requires new victims.
The game in the beginning was without informed consent and even after people were informed and given a chance to leave it's still extremely unethical because they exploited the people's desperation for money which they themselves created. And the way they treated the game as entertainment is highly dehumanizing.
Maybe, although I felt like everyone in the game was such an idiot and an F up that they deserved to die. They just mess everyone’s lives up
They lacked a capacity to contract due to economic duress. The legal system has laws regarding capacity to contract for those who are under the age of majority, mentally impaired, intoxicated or subject to physical or economic duress for a reason. The host knows that the contestants have nowhere else to turn. He knows that most of them suffer addictions, are incompetent or at least have a history of making irrational decisions out of desperation. If we really want to get in the weeds of it, the contract lacks consideration on the part of the contestants, which would make it unenforceable. The consideration was the lives of the players, which was not explicitly stated in the contract. One might argue that the consideration was the performance of the players, but that is clearly not true as they only add money into the piggy bank when a player dies.
The old mans logic is that they would have died on the outside world or suffered a lot more (like the guy freezing on the street final episode) compared to the consequent deaths in squid game. His logic is that the deaths in the game are just putting them out of their misery and suffering, and that humanity is unjust.
Still a stupid logic because with that money he could have helped donate it or something instead of putting people out of their misery
@@katliit9442 Charity is a crap shoot. It does nothing to address the "root" problem of poverty and the money eventually is exhausted. So in the end it solves nothing and is unlikely other billionaires will follow example once the money supply runs out and you have nothing to show for.
The old man at least died having fun which was his entire motive for hosting the Game.
@@davidskelly3046: Yes, getting rid of a few poor peoples' debt usually doesn't solve their underlying problems with money. It only lets them continue on to get into more debt. And the rich will still run out of money before all the other folks' debts are covered. The average 2020 US household debt is $140,416, while the median was $65,000. A million dollars will spare 7 to 16 typical households.
Glad you're having a great time making these. I know that's when I make my best videos. It's almost unreal how we get to do something fun and so many people actually watch it.
wait am I actually the 1st like 😃
Rly just patting yourself on the back with this comment aren’t u
woah didnt expect you here!
This is the crossover I didn't expect!
I felt bad for gi hun at the time of 001s death but when I found out he was the host I was just mad
We’re all with u on that bro
The last revelation kinda made the marble game with 001 less emotional
@@mrteco4236 yes!
@@mrteco4236 They’re a dream kid 💀 II-nam shouldn’t be hated. That person probably hates Sang-woo too
@@lordfarquaad1676 true
What I’d really like to know is; what would they have done if EVERYONE panicked during the first game and got shot ? How do they get away with 455 people suddenly going missing ? (Excluding the old man obviously)
And also how have they gotten away with it since 1988 ?? Surely there would be more suspicion over hundreds of people disappearing every year ?
Well, they were on the toppest of the social hierarchy, so they could simply bribe off the ones who should catch them for doing such a thing, or maybe they have control over this stuff.
Its so obvious why police wont look after those people
@@sports_xf1 it leads me to believe the police are actually fully aware, that would maybe explain why the officer in the second episode doesn’t believe anything Seong tells him
Cops aren't going to invest much time investigating missing people that are mostly criminals. Sang-woo had some serious agents after him so that's a rare case where I feel like they could really get close to becoming aware of the games. But also, Jeffery Epstein bribed every level of authority and accountability during his entire life, so rich people truly do get away with complex schemes like this.
There’s about 500 people that go missing every year so it won’t look too suspicious. Plus if they’re heavily in debt or criminals on the run, they’ll just think they fled to another country or suicide or murdered
I don’t care what anyone says.
That final scene with him and Gi-Hun is fantastic and thought provoking and it is the perfect catalyst for Gi-Hun’s rebirth.
This show is so well written
aside from the vip voice lines
@@starlightrains dude fr that sucked eh
ehh. There are many flaws, but its entertaining nonetheless.
Screenrants did a good job at revealing the writing issues
IM OBSESSED WITH THESE VIDEOS! I watched Squid Game & wasn’t clear on so many things. Now that I’m watching your videos the whole show makes so much more sense! PLEASE MAKE MORE 🥰
He's the same Numba One from Kids Next Door right?
Wut
@@rockmag1 RED DISCORD IS FURRY CONFIRMED!!!!!
@@rockmag1 ya bro it says fury
@•Who_Knows• fury
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“Spoilers ahead”
Front man: so you have chosen death
Something that I never got is the games and how they didn’t match up with the philosophy behind them. Okay, so we’ve established that the games are meant to give equal treatment to the players since they faced inequality from the outside world, and this message is held during red light, green light and the honeycomb shape game, but what about tug of war or the glass game? In tug of war, the men were unfairly given the upper hand because of biology, and the glass game gave the players who had the higher numbers a definitive chance of winning compared to those who picked the lower numbers. Hell, one of the players ended up getting severely wounded not from the game itself, but because the glass accidentally punctured her stomach at the end of it. It’s more like a game of chance instead of a game where actual strategy needs to be used.
Edit: guys, I know the VIPS and the host are supposed to be hypocrites. It’s just weird how none of the other characters seemed to call this out or realise that some of the games were absolute BS compared to others.
True
I'm guessing the reasoning behind that is because they got to choose who was on their team or who goes next
I thought the players being allowed to kill other players outside the games/in the dorm rooms were not fair at all.
@@donnabzzzd6208 this
Bcuz That is real world.
8:43 actually when they're all laying on the floor its shown that his locks are gone, they were faulty. So the only point he wouldve been in danger would have been when they started killing each other at night and notice how the frontman didnt stop it until Il Nam said he was scared.
It never occurred to me that the contradiction of the games fairness would be an expression of how we’re told that the free market is fair.. but some that dominate lobby and change rules to suit their own interests.
The free market is fair.
The issue is PEOPLE. Human beings.
It is the greedy who keep everyone else down.
If it wasn't capitalism is would be another system. There is sadly no way of controlling human nature, else you destroy humanity.
Many films/books and real history have shown this.
So many of these things are not critiques of the system, but of the people.
You think the poor would be different if they were the rich?
See Kaiji (the japanese anime this seems to be inspired by). It shows the nature of humans much more.
Your take on him being the son of God is next level 👌
Am i first?
No iam
:(
lol
lol
One of the best written antagonist and one of the best written protagonist in recent memory. *Chef's kiss*
I think they killed the ones who didn’t return. Remember when o ill nahm met 456 at that gas station and convinced him to play the games?? I think he did that because 456 had been nice to him and he wanted to spare his life.
Why would they kill them? That makes no sense. The only "correct" thing the organizers of the game did is following their own rules, and not breaking them. When most players voted to stop the game, they indeed stopped it. The winner indeed got his prize money. So why would they kill those who decided not to return, if that's allowed by their rules? The people who didn't return are not a threat, as they don't know the place of the game, and didn't see any faces. So while the old man clearly wanted them to return, he didn't force them.
@@fffdddfdfgffhfhhfyr3546 they could have killed them to stop them from talking to police etc
@@coenhealy-johnson5194 what’s to stop the winner from talking to the police though…?? Or why would they let them vote and leave in the first place?
If they’re gonna kill the non-returners for knowing about it then they may as well kill everyone on the outside who knows including Gi-hun
Or they may as well just gun down everyone there who voted no anyway, not much worse than what they were doing anyway
It’s more likely they just monitor them to stop them from talking instead
Then again I don’t work at the show so I wouldn’t know
@@bababababababa6124 When 456 won, even he didn't have a shred of evidence to substantiate such a patently insane story. He had no names, or witnesses, or any idea of where he'd been. It would be like going to the Police and claiming you'd been abducted by aliens, who did experiments on you, stuck probes up your tackhole, then brought you back, unharmed, with nothing to show for it except 40 odd billion dollars in your bank account. They'd just stick you in a nuthouse, and you'd never get to see any of that money again.
@@coenhealy-johnson5194 Well, Gi-Hun tried that in episode 2. And what? The policemen just laughed at him. The players have no evidence about the game at all.
I liked him so much. Him being the Korean Squid game mastermind was quite a shock.
Something to note: when his heart reader flat lines it apparently shows that it wasn’t properly connected, likely intentional (from a director’s standpoint) to either hint he could still be alive, or to make us theorize that he’d be
Did Gi-hun ever pay off his debts? He signed away his kidney, but it's never stated how he got out of that if he never touched the money he won.
He bought bodyguards
I think he did because when he asked the one guy if he could borrow 10,000 won, he looked very simaller to the one guy threatening to take his kidney
I actually thought about this maybe shark loans and the bank are connected to the games and use the debt people are in to lure them into playing so once gi hun joined the game the debt collectors job was done
@@Earth.To.Marsss The best thing he could have done was end the game, since 100 million won would have been given to the family of each person who died in the games.
He had to pay for the haircut and hair dye so he probably gave the loan sharks the money he owes, so he had to use the money to pay for the haircut and the debt
I believe Il - nam ideology would be -
'It is better for 1 person to live happily than 500 person living miserably (a condition worse than death)'
'Even if I share the money in all, they would eventually grow and fight with each other than helping someone in need'
'We can see in games, when it comes the condition to save our lives, we doesn't care even it means to kill other 455 person's, And he believes people will behave same in outside world, where for money and better living they won't care to even kill others'
BUT ALL THESE ARE SILLY EXCUSES PRESENTED BY SOMEONE WHO RAN FROM THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND NOW EXPLAINING WHY 'HE WAS RIGHT!'
Ali just disproves all of II-nam's reasons
Great analysis! I saw a whole video by another creator about how "Number 001 did nothing wrong" basically making the point that the games were fair and it was all the players faults they were there and the VIPs were benevolent for giving them the chance to make money in the first place and honestly it was the worst take I could have imagined
Ali and Sae-Byeoks deaths were so sad, but Il-nams og “death” made me cry before I knew anything of his past
Nope, I don’t trust old people
Sooo… what about the glass panes? All the other games were about doing something well. The last one is pure luck, and we can see the last 3 players are the ones who come out alive. When the glass engineer tried to tell the panes apart, they cut the lights, bringing them back to luck. Also Sae-Byeok’s death felt really cheap. She won the game but died from a random glass shard. Exploding glass killing somebody isn’t rocket science, they just didn’t care.
Tl;dr - I just feel the last game goes against everything they claim to do with these games.
Any opinions on this?
ig after the marbles fake fairness isn’t on the player’s kind anymore. not even the money is important, just being alive is all that matters. and the vips and the game makers don’t acc care abt the players, so it’s no big deal if one gets impaled unfairly.
Great point. I think it's likely another allegory to capitalism. The previous games gave the illusion that skill and hustle were a factor in winning the competition, but clearly, this final game showed that even luck was more important than skill. In the same way that a capitalist society gives us the illusion of upward social mobility with education or skill.
@@nathanielbendahan7214 strictly plot-wise, I think it was made to please the VIPs. It’s the largest arena, very.. flashy, for lack of a better term. And the VIPs clearly don’t care about fairness, it’s all about entertainment, and being on the edge of your seat not knowing if the player you betted on is going to fall or not seems fairly entertaining
During glass walk...saw it unfair when the glass maker was correctly identifying the glass due to his experience in his glass making industry,but the foreman switched off the lights.
That was unfair game according to me
Yea that game was bullshit
These squid game videos are so entertaining, MOREEEE!!!
Nearly 19 minutes of the best voice on RUclips? I've already signed up and arrived.
Damn you killed this! I’ve been waiting for a comprehensive breakdown of all the ways this game was unethical, just to, idk… get rid of the gaslighting feel once and for all. That there was any hint of fairness. I could see it, I could name all the ways, but this was a great essay that’s a good answer to any hint of equality that’s presented to us by Number One.
If we are honest we all trade humanity for financial stability. Every manager tricking you into unpaid extra hours does it, every parent lying to their kids b/c they cannot successfully argue yet...
Humanity wants the world this way. Humans are trapped by their hunter-gatherer-raider biology. If humans were capable of truly sharing, of eliminating tribalism, of working together as equals, there would be no nations, no wars, and things like communism and socialism would actually work. But they don't, because corruption always sets in. Humans cannot feel successful, unless they can compare that success to the misfortune of many others. Humans need other humans to suffer below them, so that they can feel above and better than others. In short, humans, like all great apes, require status to feel fulfilled. Status is hierarchy, and can only exist at the expense of others.
And while I do not hate humanity for this - they literally cannot help it, it is how they evolved - I do pity them, and rationally, there is no possible path to a compassionate, ethical, equal world. The species just cannot exist like that - it goes against their very biology. It is a tragedy.
The only real hope I can see for Mankind, is if it can somehow redesign itself - uploading to a machine existence, nanotech, genegineering, something, anything - to make itself no longer truly human anymore. Humanity is innately cursed by the very nature that allowed it to become the dominant predator on the planet - not merely of other animals, but of itself.
Theres a moment where the front man answer the phone and tells someone on the other side “im glad you enjoyed the game sir” “our host is waiting for the vips now” so there must still be people higher than him and maybe different facilities with different host
Excellent analysis! I love how art sparks conversation about real world concepts. For me, the most important takeaway is INFORMED CONSENT! Ironically, because I grew up in a religion (Mormonism) that denies people their right to informed consent and manipulates, indoctrinates and tricks them, now as an adult I consider it to be an obvious expectation.
Great point
100% agree with your point about religion. this whole thing of ilnam claiming everyone chose to be part of the game reminds me of how people are indoctrinated into religions from their childhood but coaxed into being told that it was their choice.
@@elamrani1449 yup. In mormonism, kids are baptized at 8 years old. They are taught from birth that it is a lifelong commitment (to the church) that extends into eternity! You get a party and everyone celebrates your special day; the day you not only join the tribe and truly become part of the eternal family, but the one day where you will be the most “pure and clean” spirit in the world. With all the familial and societal pressure and expectation most kids in Mormonism don’t even realize there is actually a choice. It’s just a given that they will get baptized, or go on a mission, or get married in the temple. Or even stay a member of the religion! A choice?! Hah! 😂🙄
@@apostatelizzy6836 I am still a member and love the church, but I didn't know what baptism meant when I was 8! 😂 Many years later, I wished I hadn't gotten baptized until I was much older and understood what it was.
Same with Islam. I've left now but it reminds me a lot of it.
I knew 001 was in on it since he found 456 in the real world.
I was sure it was him because it was extremely coincidental to me that out of all the people the first one they pick up was some random old man with a tumor since there was no one else similar...my logic is that he's #1 because he's a returning player, possibly for decades, which is why he's so old but they still let him keep the #1 suggesting he's the "first"...even though my path of thinking was never revealed as true or untrue it led me to a good conclusion regardless
Based on this logic, the childhood friend is also in on it then since he found Ali
@@liteasura6111 Not really, as they were dumped together after the games were stopped. Like Gi-hun and Sae-byeok.
I grew suspicious on him when I found out he could afford a doctor.
@@kingcolor6417 ohh
Idk why I watch you at like mid night
It gives me the chillz
Of course it's an allegory. Not just the games and the whole setup, but even the character arcs from the North Korean moving south for opportunity only to force herself to have to literally die for a shot at a good life with her throat cut by the capitalist while down and weak, already dying; along with the Pakistani immigrant getting fooled into handing over his wealth with the promise of life and prosperity for both, to the final battle to the death being between two life long friends who had been separated by the capitalist class structure. The two of which, one is a poor worker who watched a fellow striking Union member get killed by the police which helped push him into mental health issues likely leading to gambling addiction, and the other went to a nice school which protected him into a career in finance and investment capital in which it's yet another textbook case of theft, fraud and taking the life savings from his working class small business mother and gambling it away, and in the end the worker still tried to let the capitalist live in poverty and justice for his actions, but the capitalist chose to forego having to deal with the consequences of his actions. It's all there so clear to see if you're looking at all. Then there's the fact that the entire reason for the creation of the deadly games were due to the alienation of the rich man caused by the conditions of the capitalist society.
Yeah the starving North Korean runs to South Korea and lives a “terrible” life, while not starving to death. Communism in North Korea is a lot better, since everyone starved there equally and fairly
@@TKUA11 many people in capitalist countries starve.
@@austinhernandez2716 u clearly did not get his point. read it again
@@TKUA11 i guess kim jong un is starving too?
@@TKUA11 I'm pretty sure her arc was to show that both systems have their issues. Notice how she stays silent when asked which ones worse? Also I'm pretty sure North Korea is not Communist, and also also, the reason why North Korea is in such dire straits is less to do with their economical structure, ignoring the government structure, but more to the fact that during the war that split the country, the North was bombed heavily and they received no external help, unlike the South.
Squid Game: *EXISTS*
Bryce Edward Brown: *STONKS*
What's not explained: how the letter got into the boiled egg...
Plot convenience is a hell of a thing
I assume some sort of thicker barreled needle to insert the scroll
@@CaityRaindrop there was shell...i think
@@ficosmedellin1492 you can seal the small egg hole with wax, farmers did this to mark chick's with their origin (parents)
Also how there is plenty of and a concrete market of human organ trafficking/harvesting.
Oh Il Nam is still one of my favorites.
He might also be the main guy’s father.
Also:
Square = Manager
Triangle = Soldier (only ones with guns)
Circle = Worker
Squares have 38 caliber revolvers
There were a lot of clues before episode 7 that hint to the old man being the boss or at least the boss being an old man. Especially the fact that the game started since 1988(based on the records), which means the boss must be an old person. Also, another fun thing is the old man's name is Oh il nam, "il nam" in korean can be translated as man one or man#1 or even 1st man, therefore his number is 1 and that's who he was the first player/game maker. Il=one, nam=man 😁
i love your perspective it’s so detailed and empathetic
Thank you kayla!
More squid game videos please, your videos are the most in depth and overall the best about this show
Il Nam was NEVER in danger. He was not shackled to the rope like the other contestants. He could have let go.
I love reflecting on how in the opening scene Gi-Hun states that playing Squid Game as a child is the last time he felt exhilarated… it makes me think about how competition, like when you’re a kid, is healthy when there isn’t so much at stake- when it isn’t life and death. In the last episode where Gi-Hun suggested quitting right before he could have won, he wasn’t exhilarated, but was demoralized and broken by the game - so much so that he’d give up all that money to quit and leave with his friend. That contrasts with Il-Han’s experience and choice to play. Even though he gave up in marbles. The contestants played the game because they felt like they had to, regardless of the means necessary, not because they wanted to. When you’re a kid you *want* to play and (in many cases) you don’t doubt that you’ll be called home to dinner after.
9:55 your point here is a false equivalence, if gi hun was an expert in licking candy or a candy maker then sure. but all he did was achieve the goal of the game ? the glass manufacturer DID have an advantage over everyone that would’ve meant everyone could survive.
I swear I would love an Explained video that explains something not completely obvious or that people could not easily find out for themselves.
I have mixed feelings about his big reveal at the end. On one hand, it was a fitting and thematic conclusion to the story, testing Gi-Hun's ability to trust and fairly judge other humans, but on the other hand I think it undermines his character development throughout the series. I get that there were hints to it along the way, but he was honestly one of the most powerful and believable portrayals of dementia I've seen in any medium and it's a shame the show couldn't just own that.
Hi, would be interested in seeing your take on the doctor playing the games that was also part of the harvesting operation
He already went over that. The Doc was just a normal player which the corrupt guards used since he could remove organs without damaging them. They snatch him up in the middle of the night when he goes to the bathroom and tells him the next game in return for him harvesting organs so they can sell it and make some extra money on the side. They were probably allowed to sell the organs, but the fact that they used a player from the game (since he could get more money than they could due to his experience) they got hung.
@@iPanicyt they were'nt allowed to tell the contestants what the next game was. So they got executed
@@supersaiyangod3361: Yeah, doc got an unfair advantage over everyone else, and that episode got Front Man giving his spiel on "fairness".
Great video as always. But Number 1 was not in danger in the Tug-of-war game, his shackles are not locked. You can see it on the shot where it pans over all of them laying on the ground just after winning. At least that is what I noticed visually, maybe I am reading too much into it.
If Il-nam's team had lost and he was the only survivor, I imagine the other players would realise the games were rigged in his favour and beat the shit out of him.
It may have been ethical if they had been warned that they were literally playing for their lives before the red light Green Light challenge
They would have to be told before the contract signing, not just the game itself.
The amount of research that goes into this video is god immensely awesome and min boggling!
Really I appreciate u, thanks for telling the small details which we have missed while watching the series❤️
I’ve loved all the episodes so far, keep it up! ❤️
It makes me realise how much we miss due to our lack of minute observations
Sherlock wouldn't have missed it
How the hell are you managing to analyze the movie to such depth?? nice vid
And very precise factual detail. Very good video.
smart people.. its hecken weird. like why cant i do that?
He could've gone on various forums, collected all the commentary and theories, and then go back to the show to research them.
OMG! What a beautiful reflection on Il Nam’a character! I loved this video and I’m looking forward to see what else you have to say about Squid Game! ⏺🔼⏹
Some say he is the father of The Front Man. Il-nam used to scold his son for not drinking milk. In season 2, The Front Man says he doesn’t drink milk
I’m on my way to the gym, but when I get back home I’ll finish watching this. Meanwhile I left my like 👍🏻
Gi Hun could easily win the last bet by taking the phone and calling ambulance for the homeless man :)
My thoughts are the 14 players who did not choose to participate when the games were restarted were "eliminated" aka killed due to the second clause of the agreement. "Any players who refuse to play the games are eliminated."
The front man also mentioned to keep an eye on them, yet the cash prize at the end was still 45.6 billion won. How could the total reward still be this much if the 14 people were not eliminated?
Perhaps the front man mention keep an eye on them and then off screen he ordered his men to kill the remaining 14 when round 2 game of honeycomb began. As the games have started, yet they "refused to play" due to being in the real world
Eliminated doesn't automatically mean dead dude
Then what the old man said in the final episode is very hypocrital, that they had a choice to leave the game when he was gonna kill them anyway.
No. They weren't killed.
No, they weren't killed. The games ended after game 1 finished and the survivors voted 101-100 to end them. They were offered a chance to join a continuation of the games, but 14 declined. There was no penalty to them -- they were left to resume with their lives under crushing debt. Perhaps they'll show up in next year's games, died when the organ harvesters took their key body parts, or ...
I love his character , he reminded me too much of my dad at the end to ever hate him and watching him take his last breath killed me
It all comes down to: 'Yeah, the bad guys lied, when they said it's about fair chances'. I still love your analysis and your comparison to real life injustice.
1988- present that's over 33 years of Squid Game. And they mention the South Korea version is the best to date.
More popular today than ever.
It’s significant year for our country because it is the year we hosted the 1988 Seoul Summer Olympics and really showed our country and name to the world
@@johnpark7972 oooh are you from South Korea? That is so interesting, so like 1988 is an important year!!?
A lot of people repeat the idea that life on the outside is worse than in the games, but that's as much a lie as Il-nam's claims that what he's done is ethical. None of them had good (or even mediocre) options on the outside, but none of those options were as bad as the life or death ones in the games. The only one who really was risking life or death was Deok Su and that was kind of his own fault to be honest.
Some of the folks in debt had signed away the rights to their organs when they borrowed from loan sharks. They're unlikely to survive the harvesting procedure.
Sang-woo was going to end himself when he got the invitation card.
@gumdeo he didn't have to do that.
This was a really good analysis but I just want to add - the scene where ll-nam bets with Seong that someone will help the homeless man - Seong, at ANY point could have said “screw your game, I’m going to go save that man’s life and give him some of the money to help him out” but instead, he BET ON THE MAN’S LIFE and was completely willing to watch a man die directly in front of him. I think Il-nam was pointing out that Seong was just like the rest of them, and it completely went over his head. Even after ll-nam died all he cared about was that he won the bet. He had no concern for the homeless man’s well-being.
Nono, someone else made a point that if Gi-Hun went down there, he'd be proving Il-nam point right; that genuinely selfless kindness between random people on the street simply doesn't exist.
@@147edge4 who CARES what an old man believes?! A man is DYING right in front of them.
@@147edge4 if you saw someone on the street having a heart attack, would you not call 911 because some old man said “I bet you no one will help him” and you wanna win that bet? No, you’d say “you’re fucked up” and give the man CPR.
@@KallieMae It's a SHOW, they aren't gonna exactly be realistic. Gi-Hun has just been through some shit, I'm not saying he wasn't in the wrong, but in that moment it was very clear that seeing the outcome of this was EXTREMELY important to him and so he was transfixed. He wanted to know for sure that the good-spirit he'd been holding onto with Sae-Beok really existed in others, that, yes, strangers can and will sometimes lend a hand and show that they're not all greedy.
If he'd gone down to help, he would've never seen that woman helping and he'd of been stuck thinking Oh Il-nam was right the whole time, he'd of been left with the old dude's mindset that everyone really doesn't care about eachother.
Hell, I would've done the same and waited in his shoes.
@@147edge4 but again, then his priorities are not in order. He’s still the gambling addict he was at the beginning. He also had the opportunity to show Il-nam that HE cares about others. You’re right, he was just traumatized by watching so many people die, but now all of a sudden he’s cool with just watching another innocent person because of another sick game that Il-nam wants to play? How would that help him cope with the trauma?
You can feel whatever you want but the second I saw that scene, everything in me was screaming “why aren’t you going down and giving him shelter?!?! What’s wrong with you?! You were supposed to be the one good person in this show”
This scene just highlights, along with the rest of the show, one of the many parallels between Seong and Il-nam.
You really give me inspiration to make my own videos on stuff like this. Keep up the good work!!! 😊😊😊
soooo cool, i love your analysis! also, the biblical parallel is fascinating, I like the theory
I bet he's still not dead. Looking forward to season 2. ⏺🔼⏹
I knew he was the host when they shot ill nam, I didn't hear his body collapse.
From that logic then Ali could've been the host too?
@quick schweezy : Next episode showed Ali being put in a box for cremation.
Owls also symbol “wise” and have an older aspect to it.
This breakdown is legit awesome. Your short but explanative similairities witg the current society makesit very interesting ❤️
Spoke to my mate about season 2 earlier and now these videos are recommended to me
Great analysis, we came to some similar conclusions in our rap review of Squid Game.
Great spot that the games started after Black Monday, some great detail on this video thanks very much!
Bro killed 200 something people before they even clarified what "eliminated" means.
That's what they get for not reading the tiny letters or just right away sign the terms haha
no. only the 1st one didn't know. the rest saw it and knew the rules. move on green light, stop on red light. they panicked and started running, they were dead
@@margaretaada everyone would panick bruh, they didnt know that they were going to die and the 2nd person didnt even believe that he was dead, it was a perfect trap for entertainment, how are you justifying this are you a sociopath?
@@patricklutherwinchester4260 did the letters say that eliminated means death? no they didnt if they did sangwoo would have known that
@@Max-xl5kx I'm trying to justify it by their rules. Besides, there still were people that stood still, which means that they understood the rules.
4:42 the rest of the 14 players weren't able to walk away from the game, instead they were killed in the outside world after they left the island, if you closely see that after they have returned, the number on the big screen in the dorm is shown as 187 players, and 26.9 billion won that means that the number has reduced from 201 players to 187 players and they have been killed after deciding not to join the squid games. If the 14 players would have been alive, their part of 100 million won wouldn't have been added to the total sum.
I dont think thats True, since They left the games and didnt return, It May be counted the same as getting eliminated in the games (aka dying) so since They didnt come back, They just counted them as eliminated and added the sum.
i disagree
I'm a bit late to the party on this show, but I just finished it about two weeks ago. I loved this old man, and then the finale happened...it felt so real. I can't begin to understand how I feel about this whole thing. 😶
Literally yes I would watch every single one of those videos if you made one for every character haha-you have such in-depth, thoughtful analyses!
In the God metaphor as well, God comes down to his creation to possibly sacrifice himself to save those he loved, and despite Gi-hun's sins against him, still sacrificed himself with the marble game, so that Gi-hun could possibly make it out of hell without having to spend eternity in there.
I just thought of this (and this could be a fun thing to try and figure out)
How much money have the hosts spent on the squid game in total
They have been running it since '88, and that place doesent look cheap + the prize money
8:02 I think that the year when the games started has smth to do with the Olympic Games held in Seoul and Il-nam took inspiration from that. He wanted to keep the country on the map and the money flowing in
Perhaps it was his version of the Olympics.
11:30 is the exact reason season 2 should have leaned in way more to the idea that its hopeless to stop, even if he magically, heck even MIRACULOUSLY, stopped the games in his country, stopping it would only leave an absence someone else will fill
Video on who the salesman is and his relation to the game would be AWESOME !