What are "techno phrases"?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
  • Techno speaks another language than most music: it doesn't focus on harmonic progression or melodies for its character. How can we then still make a techno song "speak"? Let's look at a little tool called "effect phrases" where we create calls, responses, and turnarounds using instrument effects.
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    Contents:
    0:00 Choosing not to use melody!
    1:08 Effect phrases
    1:59 Audio example
    3:50 Dealing with too dynamic sounds by upward compressing
    5:06 Lead elements are like human speech
    5:48 Send me your techno demos

Комментарии • 91

  • @OscarUnderdog
    @OscarUnderdog  Год назад +2

    Send techno demos here ► demo@xysecret.be
    X/Y/S label ► soundcloud.com/x_y_secret
    My techno project Torc ► soundcloud.com/torcaudio
    Oscar's courses ► courses.underdog.brussels

    • @DetroitMicroSound
      @DetroitMicroSound Год назад

      You know, we would love to see you digging into some popular hardware. My current obsession is with small, cost-effective (but powerful) groove boxes, of our current era. Starting at the end of my list of rig pieces, which goes back 35 or so years, I just got the Roland AIRA S-1. I have had two friends over the years with SH-101's in their studios, and I have owned several old Roland analog synths, beside it. I gotta say, you could show folks how to make some great techno with just these tiny AIRA's, and a couple other reasonably priced bits of kit. It's pretty impressive, for $200USD, this one.

    • @officialphazenoise
      @officialphazenoise 7 месяцев назад

      great video :) really easy to understand and implement in the production.
      for the demos...how long should they be and what format (e.g. link, .wav, .mp3, etc.)?

  • @DetroitMicroSound
    @DetroitMicroSound Год назад +31

    The best techno is much more "moving sound sculpture" than it is, the practice of traditional melodical musical theories.

    • @Death_Rave
      @Death_Rave 3 месяца назад +1

      Ones that when you finally grow accustomed to a pattern, it starts to change into something else together.

  • @quantum_ocean
    @quantum_ocean 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for this. So many techno tutorials are just sharing recipes. This one is different. It's more fundamental. It helps develop a deeper UNDERSTANDING, which is much more helpful in the long term than yet another recipe.

  • @_s.d.s._
    @_s.d.s._ Год назад +20

    This is sooooo validating, My brain thinks primarily in these kind of phrases, and I struggle with melodies.

  • @trevormalcolm4328
    @trevormalcolm4328 Год назад +8

    I’ve known this subconsciously, the best videos confirm what you already think! Thank you under dog! 🙏🏽✊🏽🇬🇧

  • @nuisan
    @nuisan Год назад +6

    You gave so many interesting advices in such a short time that I had to pause the video every 10 seconds or so to keep up writting down my notes!
    Awsome tips as always!

    • @b00ts4ndc4ts
      @b00ts4ndc4ts 8 месяцев назад +1

      Make a folder on you tube of all favourite ideas.
      I have one for drums, bass, melodies, mixing and miscellaneous.
      When I am struggling with writing block all it takes is watching one of the uploads I have saved to spark an Idea.
      The only reason I am saying this is because I had pages of notes with no organisation and found it hard to come back to that juicy stuff.

  • @frankiewylde7649
    @frankiewylde7649 Год назад +4

    love your tips lately oscar! your videos keep getting better and better! thank you for all your work

  • @pivA00
    @pivA00 Год назад +3

    I love how succinct your videos are, helps a lot to validate some techniques one has figured out themselves but can't really pinpoint to why/how it works :) the short length also help a lot to catch up. Thanks a lot for them :D

  • @crhettbuttler1
    @crhettbuttler1 Год назад +1

    Really cool how you put together a few concepts that are always there in the back of your mind but conjuring them ad then taking them apart is just another level

  • @benni.rosinante
    @benni.rosinante Год назад +2

    Thanks for this video! I love the style and approach and the sharing of sound design techniques 🥳

  • @jumpstar9000
    @jumpstar9000 10 месяцев назад +1

    Really great tips Oscar 👍👍

  • @jarbo186
    @jarbo186 Год назад +1

    I love your work bro, keep it up. I’m having the best experience with your courses ➕♾️

  • @nop33
    @nop33 Год назад +1

    Such good content, as always! I think I'll soon purchase your foundations 2, i rly enjoyed 1!

  • @bobbydebobadibob1261
    @bobbydebobadibob1261 Год назад

    Love your uploads Oscar..

  • @DANCCER
    @DANCCER Год назад

    Oscar, This video came at the right time. I needed this Tipp for a new track i am working on at the moment. Thanks mate 🔥

  • @brianhudson7058
    @brianhudson7058 Год назад

    Always good to get your tuition thanks Unders ❤️

  • @conduit-seoir
    @conduit-seoir Год назад

    Best channel on RUclips, so well explained

  • @0711RC
    @0711RC Год назад

    Another Awesome lesson. Thank you Oscar!!

  • @shubhamsurya007
    @shubhamsurya007 Год назад

    This content is absolute GOLD ❤

  • @gm-heaven
    @gm-heaven Год назад

    You put the right words on concepts that I was only touching the surface. One more time, this is truly useful. Thank you Oscar

  • @allyouracid
    @allyouracid Год назад +1

    This is like tasty pastry, but not for the mouth, but for the ears instead.

  • @lauferx5944
    @lauferx5944 Год назад

    I was listening a lot of Luigi Tozzi lately and was thinking about the technique he's using and here it is. This chanell is without competiton 🙌

  • @introsphereaka.felixus378
    @introsphereaka.felixus378 Год назад +1

    great video! need more about this style of techno

  • @QuickSilver111
    @QuickSilver111 Год назад

    Always such useful content and great delivery ~*~

  • @andriinikitin6139
    @andriinikitin6139 Год назад +2

    Thanks a lot fo this video!
    I struggle a little with techno, because I’m too used to melodical songwriting, and techno is not about that :) this video is suuuper useful

  • @motechrecords
    @motechrecords Год назад +1

    Great videos I learn allot from your walkthrough 👌🏼

  • @Skalakalava
    @Skalakalava Год назад +1

    thank you so much Underdog Guy

  • @freethinkers-inc.
    @freethinkers-inc. Год назад

    Great tutorial. Thanks a lot. Just working also on some techno phrases and the video fits perfectly.

  • @martinb5367
    @martinb5367 Год назад +1

    Hi bro, I follow your channel, mostly of time I am quite and silenced but I really like the way you share your views. I'am an Afro house producer currently I am at Top20 producers of this genre on the beatstats in the last 12 months. I like when you says the maths involved on the track and yesterday I saw an interview with the producer from ACDC rock n roll band and that guy says the same thing you said here at once. The maths, he was explaining why the drum and bass from this band is so straight enough to make the guitar plays off beat and creates the ACDC math work perfectly. In my case is hard as I need to explore the percussion ( congas, djembe, etc ) world. Sometimes those percussions are hard to find the maths , so many information inveolded, sometimes they are also a difficult to adjust the sound, as they are too raw.

  • @allformatz
    @allformatz Год назад

    I’m a loyal Patreon follower of Oscar and as always his content is very relatable. Great explanation to a non melodic techno phrase

  • @krismortonmusic
    @krismortonmusic Год назад +1

    Dude your track is so sick!

  • @slowfreq
    @slowfreq Год назад +2

    This is just the inspiration I needed to finish my dubstep song!!!

  • @AlexanderDemergis
    @AlexanderDemergis 4 месяца назад +2

    Wow I had no idea I was making this mistake; Trying to hear chord progressions when in fact it was hypnotic techno which is something completely different from peak time / melodic

  • @4to_theFlow
    @4to_theFlow Год назад

    Uuuh, what sound quality! It made me feel tingles in my brain, haha, excellent! You should make sound for movies or for some museum exhibit because it's a universe of sensations with at least some good headphones.

  • @andycordy5190
    @andycordy5190 Год назад

    Really logical stuff . Thank you.

  • @eanhickok8984
    @eanhickok8984 4 месяца назад +1

    very good video thank you

  • @arneanders6306
    @arneanders6306 Год назад

    Here is my portion of '' some love'' for you😂🎉 great video 😎🤙

  • @ns3429
    @ns3429 Год назад

    Legend! Thanks

  • @didzisberzins1221
    @didzisberzins1221 Год назад +2

    Awesome video! This got me thinking about one of my dusty old wip's that has some samples from Half-Life. Could you do a video on sample clearing and copyright? I know it's not the most exciting topic, but I think a lot of beginner producers have to know what it means and how to do it

  • @themarrowmusic
    @themarrowmusic Год назад

    With your video FX supporting the delay and your story I just thought I have hallucinogen persisting perception disorder 😂
    Thank you for your ideas

  • @Almaltz
    @Almaltz Год назад

    There is a really good free upwards/downwards compressor called OTT. Its a fantastic little unit.

  • @DALZIELMUSIC
    @DALZIELMUSIC Год назад +1

    Track is 🔥

  • @Desid3lia
    @Desid3lia Год назад +1

    Oscar a great video as always!! i 've been truly inspired by your videos and you ve help me develop my skills as a producer so thanks a lot!
    i hve been using your rumble generator since the release and i ve made some adjustments to add some more control over the rumble sound.
    would you like me to send you the patch so you can share it with the rest of the community?

  • @armandotovar3048
    @armandotovar3048 Год назад +1

    Hola Oscar, could you make a video of sampling old school? please

  • @Priotech
    @Priotech Год назад

    This is a good way to think about it

  • @muschimiau
    @muschimiau Год назад

    I would like to see you show some practical tips in Ableton again. Your last episodes were very theoretical. Thanks.

  • @dannecid6194
    @dannecid6194 Год назад

    I love the new track

  • @ricardojmestre
    @ricardojmestre Год назад +1

    You opened a Pandora's box that now I can't close. Not that I want to. :D

  • @EZBOT_
    @EZBOT_ Год назад

    I love your work! What microphone do you use to record these video?

    • @OscarUnderdog
      @OscarUnderdog  Год назад +1

      I'm mostly using a sennheiser 416 these days! I quite like it :)

    • @EZBOT_
      @EZBOT_ Год назад

      @@OscarUnderdog thanks for getting back to me :)

  • @gazo733
    @gazo733 Год назад

    Starting to make sense

  • @SaundiHemmo
    @SaundiHemmo Год назад

    This video has good material for some techno track "Oscars formants"😁

  • @kristijanspirkoski806
    @kristijanspirkoski806 Год назад

    Hey, would you recommend the Foundations of Electronic Music course to someone interested in producing techno music?

  • @blockchaintutorials9009
    @blockchaintutorials9009 Год назад

    Nice intro dude.

  • @AKAtAGG
    @AKAtAGG Год назад

    2:37 - sampling that immediately

    • @airfixx_8952
      @airfixx_8952 Год назад +1

      The voice is an amazing instrument..... Get a mic, go crazy and sample yourself... :)

  • @marcosrotllan
    @marcosrotllan Год назад

    This one was really inspiring. Thx.

  • @catmasterOP
    @catmasterOP Год назад +27

    Yo, what's under, dawg?

    • @totopolo2379
      @totopolo2379 9 месяцев назад +1

      are we lw iq aspiring rappers today?

  • @supafly424
    @supafly424 Год назад

    Oscar ftw!

  • @saifadte1
    @saifadte1 Год назад +1

    You should make hypnotic techno from scratch video

    • @OscarUnderdog
      @OscarUnderdog  Год назад +1

      I do one on my courses website! Or also check out my SNTS videos!

  • @DrGuy118
    @DrGuy118 Год назад

    Thanks for the food 🙏🏾

  • @carlrowlinson2833
    @carlrowlinson2833 Год назад

    Would that multiband effect also be achieved using a normal compressor set to expand, or is there something specific in the multiband needed?

    • @OscarUnderdog
      @OscarUnderdog  Год назад +2

      Expand is the opposite of what we want to achieve :) remember we are trying to compress the dynamic range, but in an upward motion :)

    • @carlrowlinson2833
      @carlrowlinson2833 Год назад

      @@OscarUnderdog ah gotcha. Thanks for clarifying

  • @drottningu
    @drottningu Год назад +1

    Foundations 2 Hype 😂

  • @Note_Creator
    @Note_Creator Год назад

    2:50 formant filter. If you are trying to figure out what was said.

  • @LouisSerieusement
    @LouisSerieusement 10 месяцев назад

    nice

  • @Death_Rave
    @Death_Rave 3 месяца назад

    "What is *Upward* compression?"
    [Watches him adjust one aspect on multiband I've never touched before]
    Me:🤯

  • @kookiespace
    @kookiespace Год назад

    2:47 🥺 chonky arms

  • @AOOOOGA
    @AOOOOGA Год назад

    When I click on courses I get “Forbidden”. I’ve used different browsers and VPN’s and still can’t access it. Anybody else having trouble?

  • @jeremypcaulfield2474
    @jeremypcaulfield2474 Год назад

    I’m seeing trails …. 😅❤

  • @joverlinden5713
    @joverlinden5713 Год назад +3

    Amongus

  • @olafsigursons
    @olafsigursons Год назад

    Techno being rhythmic based, I would say your musical phrase would be rhythmic.

  • @stoatystoat174
    @stoatystoat174 10 месяцев назад +1

    :)

  • @nestoroid
    @nestoroid Год назад +2

    In techno music, the focus is on rhythmic and percussive elements, not melody. However, instrument effects like delay, reverb, distortion, and filtering can still convey emotion. Techniques like "build-ups" gradually increase tension, while "drops" create sudden changes in rhythm and texture. Creative use of effects creates a sense of tension, release, and emotional impact, making techno tracks dynamic and expressive.

  • @bobmoegrabi
    @bobmoegrabi Год назад

    First

  • @hrmny_
    @hrmny_ Год назад

    To me, a techno phrase is 8 bars

    • @airfixx_8952
      @airfixx_8952 Год назад +1

      Beware making rules for yourself..... Go with with feels right and then once you get into a comfortable routine; challenge it. 👍

  • @dgsoundCA
    @dgsoundCA Год назад

    comment for algo, thank you for everything Oscar!