What Happened To Galio? - Why NO ONE Plays Him Anymore | League of Legends
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I can't math... How the heck did I think 6 x 5 was 40... ._.
I beg of u do one abt gnar
Wait....i thought it was 11
@@aliusman3071i forgot 5 x 2 so its fine
as Asian or part Asian idk this hurt my heart and soul
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As a galio main, I think that the main problem is the lack of range. In midlane you either need:range to be able to farm properly or a good all in combo so at least you can be a thread in close range. Galio lacks both of this due to being a tank. And in support, removing the W+flash combo makes his engage range really short. That's a resume of my thoughts, but I could be wrong.
He is supposed to be a tank that cant build tank is what makes it frustrating. He has an identity crisis, because the only thing that riot comes up with is nerfing his magic shield.
i main him tank, and i love him, he lack a little more MR ratios. mobility is enough in most case.
But Galio as an issue for teamfight 50% of the time he need someone to engage before he follows with Ult.
He id basically my Allrounder check for many assassins.
Exept zed( good luck at blocking his ult animation) and talon bc you never see talon on lane after 6
u have range , a good all in combo , he is really good right now , but he has hard counters
Galio started out as a tank but Riot thought it would be a good idea and change him in to an ap bruiser since at the time there was only one and I believe it was Mordekaiser. Would have to check it but he was originally a tank just look at his rework spotlight
He is more of a utility pick rather than a pure damage pick and people usually prefer to play carry champions
yes, he's got 2 knock-ups, an aoe taunt, a free magic shield and he can give his allies the shield if they stand in his ULT area.
yeah I'd say you pick him did the utility.
@DarkestSpyrro not in lol pc..wr map is small plus champion abilities are big..
I just wish he had more MR, it's his supposed identity. If Malphite can have 300-400 armor with passive up, I hope Galio was like that too
It’s kinda dumb how his passive scales with levels, AP, Hp and MR making armor a not so efficient stat
Because that would be FUCKING OP. The difference between AD champ and AP champ is that AD champs can maintain their damage infinitely because most of it come from auto attack, AP CANT (mostly). 95% AP champ have mana which mean they cant use their abilities forever and that would be impossible for them to deal with a 400 MR Galio. Thats why MR is meant to be lower than armor most of the time.
@@imluxannab1tch9322 stop crying. I didn't say it has to be that high. But higher than current. Void staff has 45% pen, higher than the 35% pen for armor. Also MR items are bad compared to Armor ones. And who cares if Galio goes to 400 MR, pure AP team comps are rare and bad anyways.
@@imluxannab1tch9322 i mean yea i didnt read the full comment but i already expected a mage player to be pissed in the replies
@@longstar5001 mage players acting like they arent busted this patch im with you brother
I think Galio works *really* well as the only anti-magic tank in the game (Kassadin is an assassin and does not count). Lower the cc duration on his abilities, maybe the AP scaling of his Q (keep the base damage, though, he needs the waveclear), and exchange it for lower cooldowns on his taunt and knockup. give him consistent disruption.
I think Galio should have a mechanic where he literally "eats" magic. Petricite is supposed to nullify and absorb magic, but he just plays like an average AP bruiser.
He already has some of the lowest CC numbers in the game for the windup he needs for 'good' numbers. (Even then it's not amazing).
I think a slight slow on q might help so that he can use it to engage with e more reliably, I prefer him as tank in the jungle and just play him as an anti ap team counter pick similar to how someone picks Rammus into an ad team.
@@reyalfa18 I think that’s fair and as problematic his e is when it comes to just being practical it is just too satisfying to get rid of in my opinion.
I think that could be a potential just passive on his q I just feel like his e is iconic now. I’d also be worried about how that would affect his w balance wise. I think a slow on q would be more fair than extra move speed because it’s easier to try counter for the enemies with swift boots or mercs yk.
Galio can be used quite proactively with hero's entrance, he just needs a teammate to enable him. Something like a rammus engage, camille ult engage, j4, alistar and so on. If a carry, or realistically any teammate is locked down enemies often try to help, however due to galios nature you make that play suicide
There have been so many times such a thing has happened to, and against me with and vs a galio that I can easily say that relying on a galio's ulti to keep your engage alive is not a surefire way of thinking.
When you say "you just need a..."
It kinda explains why its kinda out of your control when youre in solo queue
how can you call that proactive if you're just following someone who's taking the lead?
@@musechan7069 Well yes, it's out of your control what your teammates pick. Without a good instant engage champ galio is just so much weaker. It's to the point that unless you can get fed inlane (and you can only vs melee burst ap champs) it's almost troll to pick galio
@@gustas8048 i somewhat disagree with this statement. Its true galio has a slightly harder time against ad champs, but in almost all cases of mid ad laners you will be substantially more tanky than them, generally in this matchup I play around them until they make a mistake (talon dash, zed wasting his shadow ect.) And with a Dorans shield and ignight i can almost always out trade/kill my opponents. Granted it might just be a thing with my elo, so take it with a grain of salt
In a season where MMR is scuffed and you can't trust your teammates, you always prefer playing carry instead of utility because they feel more rewarding.
Nothing is wrong with Galio imo just this factor
Surprisingly I feel more rewarded from landing a good hook, clutch cc to save a teammate, than actually one-shotting someone. I guess there are all kinds of players out there ;P
(And... I'm a Wild Rift player. Maybe that's the case xD)
As for Galio it's probably that cooldowns issue Vars mentioned. It feels really bad, to play a powerful, massive tank, who simply dies when his W misses. Give my man some cooldown reduction.
@@kix3189 Landing a hook is carrying you know what i mean, everything that your skill overwhelms the opponent is carrying which is better than buffing your team this season
@@lowceyn2875 not sure that a buffing yuumi/lulu is weak this season. Otherwise I can't understand their huge banrate. Beinh a peel champion is good, landing a 4 man taunt is carrying too as a hook or even more. The issue does not come from the meta since you can see both peel and hard CC champions in this season. It relies on the champion design, maybe lack of range? Maybe hybrid is not the good way to go? I don't really kbow about this, prob a bit from both
Good point. Tough to play utility when no one follows up with it
I kinda like that he can be either a tank or a burst mage. This allows creative builds. You can rush an item which gives ap (ap mythic or zhonya's) for waveclear and then just build full tank. Or if your team lacks (magic)damage, you can build more ap.
I think the main problem (or the main unique point, whatever) of Galio is that he is supposed to frontline but cannot frontline - he has no defensive spells, and burning is W is detrimental to his CC, with its long cooldown. His engage, while strong, is only effective with flash e or e from brush because it can be blocked by tanks or be dodged/dislocated by hard cc. Furthermore, his Q deals a lot of damage, but 1 is only effective in mid-late if he build some ap and 2 if he build ap he becomes a suito melee zone control mage, less a tank. Despite his simple kit, Galio is deceptively hard to play, similar to TF. To master Galio mid, you need good wave management, roam timings, vision control, target selection... all the fundamentals which are so much harder to learn than, say, a qiyana combo, and is not something you "see" improve
TLDR: Galio is WNOP because of the same reasons as TF. He requires a tactical brain (which is why doinb and xiaohu are both so good at him) and a good team coordination to execute - Galio mid, at least. However, he suffers from having too much damage early game vs not being able to land that damage at all in the late game, and cannot really frontline for your team the way an Alistar can but need to go in and look for picks all the same
grammar police here, it's actually "pseudo" not suito
So much attention to balance , love and care for the fair meta when Galio's released, then Riot smashed 10 pound of methamphetamine and snorted it all up then allowed Yone to exist.
I feel like they reworked him giving him a proper identity as a mid-line (not front or backline) champion with either damage / engage or good peel capabilities, being able to tank a hit. I used to go ROA on him (top lane) with semi ap semi tank (can't find my old build anymore). He felt great and was a very unique champion with the role he played in fights. In teamfights he had enough damage to go in if needed and enough tankiness and peel to play as a warden. Though after some changes to waveclear, tankiness and damage he was turned into yet another burst mage with some peel capabilities, but mainly just damage. Kinda almost has an identity crisis imo. Stat wise you either have to engage and play him as a melee burst mage and AP or a tanky warden without any damage. Only half of his kit is used in both instances. He lost the middleground which made him so fun to play and unique IMO.
I just love Galio as either a support and midnlaner due to the utility he provides. he may be outclssed by literally anything but I adore his Playstyle, since it's somewhat similar to what Shen is supposed to do, which I absolutely adore.
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Galio is for big dick plays
The old Galio had more identity. He was a true MR-tank, with some damage thanks to his passive, with utility for the team and with cc. He just needed to polish his kit a bit. It was fun to use your shield and see how the enemy healed you. Or being able to run away or catch your enemies with the speed boost it offered. I wish I could play it now with the current changes...
Working on the 1 Million Mastery Points on Galio. I love the fact that no one is playing or banning Galio. 98% of the Matches I can play Galio, when I want to.
Galio is one of those champions where you run into an extremely good main once in a blue moon, they completely stomps you, you go "wow I've gotta try that champ", and then you just never do
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> really dislike magic
> _Lux just rises into the air in front of the soldiers_
i miss the original Galio, both the look and the kit. he was in my top-3 fave champs when they remade him
Almost Every “why nobody plays” comes down to “they are tanks” or “they are made for neutral game” or “they aren’t appealing to play/aren’t worth the effort to learn” or “they got nerfed into the ground over time”
As a tank main. It makes me sad because it’s true
i think he needs to be what riot wanted him to be, which is a tank against magic damage. if they made him a full on engage tank that could make mages useless he could be a monster of a support.
My friend is a Galio main, she now plays him exclusively support. She used to be playing him mid but said she changed due to the meta shift making most mages not viable on mid and midlane being populated by Yasuo/Yone/Irelia types and assassins
You have friends? how tell me pls
My mind stopped listening when ive heard she.
Lowkey cool to hear about womans playing something else other then lux.
Yeah I could see that sense support is almost all ap
I miss the time where mid was for mages, now all this game has are assassins everywhere, in mid, top, jungle, we even got assassin supports and adc's, like yasuo bot. I hate it because I feel the game has less and less variety, if you don't have an assassin with super damage and mobility you get nuked by assassins with damage and mobility, and because of the latter you can't hit them back or run away...
@@ItsJustKaya are.. you a real person?
Few ideas for changing him around:
1 reduce scaleings and cooldowns, make him something likey a pokey battle mage
2. Reduce scaling but lean into his lore, let his next punch do more damage after reducing damage with w or R based on total damage reduced.
Another idea in the same sort of theme, reduce his scalings but make it so taking magic damage reduces his cook downs. Make this his passive and move his current passive to his e, when he lands e he gets the empowered auto.
I like his current kit , i just want his ult changed, it is very unreliable.
Give him his old ult back, there was absolutely no reason to gut his identity by just making it a weaker version on his w.
My man Galio. Thank you: he's finally gotten the Vars treatment.
Pre-rework Galio will always hold a place in my heart (awaiting Retrospective).
The items this season don't feel great on Galio. Last season I would go Rocketbelt, Horizon Focus, Abyssal Mask and get a 25% bonus damage combo after leading with belt into W. They changed Mask and he just feels awkward not being able to do the big damage. Playing him support doesn't allow for this kind of play with Evenshroud for the bonus. His ult is awkward and requires teammates to set him up, so unless they are in comms with you and are an engage champ themselves, you just lack consistently decent ult times. Compare this to Yone whose ult is 1/3 the cooldown time and can be used whenever with the same impact and it's clear to see why he's not in favour.
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I’m a relatively new player who started playing after watching arcane and I tried out a lot of champs but for some reason Galio really stuck for me. I think his kit is really fun and I just feel comfortable playing him
Galio doesn't feel like a tank despite how he looks including his playstyle of engaging the frontlines which is akward
build him tank and his damage might surprise you. Sunfire, Abyssal mask, mercury's... galio deals nice damage.
@@sortilien2099 lies, you do that and pooff no waveclear
@@y2tokio460 demonic embrace + zhoynas (dmg and tankiness)
"Can he hit the like and subscribe button?" I laughed so hard at this, props to you for this inclusion Vars, had to immediately like afterwards :D
Excellent choice of background music! You brought me back memories
I was so hyped for the galio rework when it shown, I'm a tank player so he seemed like such a good addition, then riot took away his tank protentional and made him a mage, I'm still bummin
Galio should definitely be turned into a pure tank. Reduce his AP scaling, increase his MR scaling.
It's weird because I remember really really enjoying old Gallio, but once they reworked him I haven't touched him
because they deleted galio and made a new champ nobody likes.
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Last season I mained galio supp full tank. It was very usefull and the cc chain made the enemy adc completely useless, but the problem is the cooldowns. Most of the time I engage in and then just ran around bodyblocking abilities for like 7 seconds waiting for my E to come up again. Galio is a super fun champion to play and mastering him is not thaaat hard but you have to play him perfectly in high elo or you become, as vars said, a litteraly punch bag for the enemy team
Very nice analysis of Galio situation. I think that the main problem with Galio is that he has all abilities with big CDs, as you mentioned. The Q must be weakened, but more spammable and his passive should do less damage, but with another effect. Having a champion with all abilities with more or less 10sec CD without AH is disgusting. I play Galio since 2013 and before his full rework I really loved how I could trade against enemy champions using Q and W, even with a very weak passive.
Galio was my second champion i bought, after Twisted Fate and i love him dearly
i play galio a ton and i genuinely cant get enough of him, hes so fun to me but his problem comes from his severe lack of range
One rework that I vaguely remember that boggled my mind is when they shifted a lot of his tankiness to AP scaling, like... why? He's an anti mage burst champion, so why MAKE him an AP burst champion?
Think his Q needs some more utility and lower cd. He just feels a bit bad when behind or getting shoved in due to Q being low damage per cd compared to say TF who has many advantages in the comparison.
He went from teamfight turning ults to failed Shen wannabe
LOL that's true
In wild rift, he's actually still popular cause of his good durability and CC and I've been using him in the baron lane a few times against different opponents and he can trade and win lane
Actually he is getting nerfed now in WR. He is more viable in Midlane since most midlane champs consist of AP and you can utilize his ult better.
@@kendivedmakarig215 I know about the nerf but somehow when I play against bruisers and juggernauts in baron lane, I survive and most of the time win trades and the tower
Well in Wild rift the lanes are shorter and the laning phase is over pretty fast. So you can do your Galio stuff without missing out on everything else.
@@satriahadi1893 You can play him in Baron lane since Rito made Galio to be played in Baron Lane. But in terms of Meta, he is better played in Midlane because of his MR, good clearing wave, good poke, and his ult utility where you can gank 2 lanes easily.
I play galio and he is so much fun if your teammates know to play around him.
The E flash into W is so strong and any gank is a sure kill.
The problem is that people expect galio to initiate and that is not possible. If you try, you just die without even using the ultimate.
I like galio, but i dont think hes a particularly good antimage. He especially loses value the later the game goes.
Tahm kench and mundo are tankier and do more damage, imo
they don't have the same cc as him
@@atethebeans You can make your ally invincible though.
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If they dropped the gimmick of his ult they might be able to make him both a tank and a mage. Galio's bigger problem is that, because his ultimate is so powerful, they basically have to make him suck on purpouse because if he is good on lane then he can roam like crazy and snowball other lanes, even now that galio is sort of a halfass tank halfass mage he is still picked in proplay because of his teamfight potential.
I really want them to make galio a jungler. It’d be easy, just make his passive have reduced CD id you hit a jungle monster.
Or you know the most obvious thing to do is just have 150% more damage to jungle camps as for most Champions given a jungle role?
btw he's playable in the jungle as a tank. can actually perform well. but dont pick him in ranked, try him in normals its fun. there's something ive always said to my friends: any champ is playable in all roles if you want it to
@@richardbersaky
You sure didn't try Pyke in the jungle before lol, I'd guve you a trophy if you survived the first 2 camps lol
@@samehsmohamed94 lmao, now im curious.
@@Zenith07
Well he was viable on release for sure but since they stripped him of every AOE damage he had. He simply died as a jungler. I could clear as Ashe better than him early.
Very nice analysis of Galio situation. I think that the main problem with Galio is that he has all abilities with big CDs, as you mentioned.
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As a non-Galio main, it seems like it's because he's basically a glorified tank support, he just doesn't do enough damage to feel impactful to late game as a midlaner, even when you build him AP, you feel strong at the start, but later on that Q power just diminishes and diminishes, and then when you build tank and you don't have teammates around you, you're basically useless. He's like Shen but without that auto-attack power that makes it so you can 1v1
I still think Galio is really good. I pick him as a safe mid pick incase I am unsure of the match up with my main and almost always win lane. I build him either tank hybrid, or full ap depending on team comp. His cool downs are def a pain to work around but 9 times out of 10 you will out sustain your laner and get a lead. His main weakness however is he is not really a carry, if your team is lacking bad there is little a galio can do to turn it around on his own.
I'm a Galio one trick. The issue i find with galio is if you run him support, you have to build armor which doesn't stack with either of his scaling sets. For mid, you have to take rocket belt to close the gap. I've been having a good time building galio on hit with his ap ratios paired with demolish to properly split push in the mid game due to his ultimate allowing quick pivots between lanes on allies that are pushing in while the enemy laner is backed.
I really miss the E+ Flash combo to surprise people, now his abilities feel...
too fair in a unfair game.
"Too fair in an unfair game" is the perfect description. That's what I felt with fun characters like him and Rell. The best made characters in the game just don't fit because they're balanced in a game where too many things are OP (albeit, probably largely because of ridiculous items).
He got nerfed to the ground, that what happened.
He has no scaling, and was only useful early with his base dmg. Then they nerfed his early damage, and now even if you do well early you're just gonna fall off hard and be just a health bar stick.
God I miss old Galio. Silly flying Gargoyle with silly spells that were clunky but fun to use nonetheless.
I remember Petricite weren't just stone, it were actually from a very large Tree resistant to Magic & Durant who sculpted him were also a very interesting character left in vague mystery,
oh man temporal tower OST playing in the background this video is already a 10/10
I love Galio after his rework, he looks cool, he feels heavy and strong, and can be a huge impactful presence in a teamfight. I like that. But as you showed in the video, after his rework, the massive amount of balance changes and adjustments were overwhelming, and off-putting. I remember on the few days that Galio became the best burst-assassin in the game, that Riot explained with the old item set they "thought" players would build Rod of Ages, like 1 AP item, then go full tank. I don't know about you, but rarely if ever do I see people half-and-half on builds. Its either full damage, full dps, full tank, full support, full crit, etc. Any champion that needs pieces for either or, is hard to balance and feels clumsy, requiring the player to use some items to fix the champions problems and some to empower them. Remember in your Varus video, the same reason he is unplayed, he has a confusing problem between being attack-speed, poke, or AP burst. I'd say the same with Galio.
His abilities, his kit, by itself is fantastically design as a tank. He looks like a tank. He moves and feels like a tank. His lore is all about tanking. The Balance team is simply kidding themselves by trying to find this halfway point between tank and mage. They could very easily balance Galio to be a tank, scale off of HP or resistances, and that's all she wrote. Right now, because of this half-and-half balancing they left him in, he is neither a mage, damage, burst, or tank.
Last note about kit design; I would change his ultimate to NOT be ally reliant. Ally-reliant abilities in League were always less desired than normal, due to the Player's efficiency with that champion being reliant on an ally. Think of old Tahm Kench, Braum, Taric, Kalista, now even Rell, and *maybe* Shen. I am certain if they made his ult something like..........Rammus's new ult, where he does a big free-targeted jump and lands and makes a knock up, but make it less range so it's not semi-global. Giving that option for Galio to engage would really help his self-reliance.
So in short, he's the result of poor balancing choices despite having a great simple tank kit, leaving him neither tank or mage, and finds it hard to function in lane due to high mana and cooldowns, and last....maybe...adjust the ultimate a little bit. That's a bonus.
Personally, I wish he was a jungler! :( Why can't they make some random laners junglers, like they did with Gnar, Garen, Zed, and Talon.
In Jungalio hopium we trust. But for real they should just commit to him being a tank. Maybe even give him his old q back for extra utility or smth.
I'm with you on the ultimate, but my idea for a change was to get away from the leap: "For Galio, his ultimate achieves the same effect. It feels like his ultimate should be either a Hulk clap, a stronger version of his passive ground smash, or an enhanced state that makes his basic attack become his passive (maybe with a slow effect, or either put the slow effect on his steps so that when he moves, he creates craters that slow anyone in range)."
i would say galio is a jack of all trades master of none. You can built burst mage, tank, engage support (even after the W + flash nerf) or just classic anti carry.
Remove the dmg reduction AP scaling, put more utility focused mr scaling like lower E or R knockup duration and make it scale with MR or smth so that he can EITHER be played full AP burst mage OR full MR tank not half of both.
I used to main Galio in 2020 when he was in a really good state. Changes that hurt him since then:
- TP changes: He used to be one of the best champions in the game for early TP plays.
- Mythic items: Galio used to rush Hextech Protobelt that cost 2600 and had a better active. The old protobelt made it possible to shove waves really really fast -> more changes to roam + earlier clear powerspike.
- Direct nerfs to Galio. They have nerfed damage from his q and stats+cd from his w.
- You can't first pick him. Back in the days you may have got away with first picking Galio and banning Yasuo. Nowadays most midlaners have atleast one decent ad-champion in their pool. Especially after release of Yone.
Taunt flash removed
Obligatory comment since this is the first time my main has shown up in a WNOP vid. First M7 champ was Galio mid, but "no one asked" LOL. Thanks for consistent vids Vars, look forward to nearly every vid you post since it's always refreshing to hear new takes, especially from a game design perspective!
I’m a Galio main from the end of season 10, and I love the guy, I play him very often but opted out recently because his biggest problem is that burst, and considering every top laner and most AD midlaners have a ton of sustain, you die, hell even going against ad lanes is a pain, Galio has the most success as you said against mages, but come team fights I can’t find (Haven’t played him in durability patch yet due to not being home) situations to engage where I just won’t die instantly.
The champ that was constacted to hunt mages builds AP. Ironic
I don't play Galio all the time, but he's often my go-to for fighting ap assassins mid. It's very satisfying to counter engage on them when they go in and watch them flounder after their burst fails to do kill him
OMG it’s Vars! I was like I recognize this guy from somewhere and then I realized you’re from Rotmg. Happy to see that it worked out for you. (Rotmg doesn’t allow for growth like this)
Full ap and stone plate is what I did 2 or 3 seasons or so ago and it worked well you get bonus heal from your ap items so in the end you get 60 armor and mr and a shirld
I play a lot of Galio, and you hit the nail on the head. I think if Riot pushed him into being a full tank with decent waveclear he could still be played mid and have a really cool niche there as well as be better support, leaving all his damage in is really what is hurting him so much because he's stuck in between identities. That limbo state means you can't really carry, because you do less damage than mages and can't peel/take damage for your team as well as a tank. Instead of being a jack of all trades, he's really a master of none.
Long story short, he is outclassed as a mage and as a tank. As a mage, he deals a lot of damage but can't tank anything and vise versa. Also his spells are really predicable so he can't engage reliably.
Overall he is decent as a wannabe control mage and in some matchups he can be good, but there are far better options.
I kinda disagree with that first bit, even building off tank with AP he’s still super hard to kill, his problem is he’s forced to focus most of that damage on other front liners in team fights due to how easy it is to block him, he’s shorter range, and forced to fight the first thing he collided with like 70% of the time.
Everything else is right on the money though
Frostfire demonic gargoyle and u are ready to destroy anything even camille
@@jairartis If you miss something as ap galio, you are doomed. Its frustrating
@@jairartis Yes, exactly! It feels frustrating to be worn down by ranged physical DPS knowing that you can deal with them if you get to them, but that never happens with a frontline/disengage. More often than not, you either only engage or only peel, as your cooldowns and limited mobility makes it hard to deal with more than one cluster of enemies.
They should just make him a full tank, too much offense in every ability, lower e damage so it can go over walls, completely change the q and passive, and make the ult focus more on its team magic defense and aoe knock up
Or just rollback his rework and he'll be enjoyable to play once again
Galio is a character I enjoy playing, I almost always play with other people and setting up ult combos with characters like Diana is really rewarding
I loved Galio rework on release but you nailed it when you said they reworked him three different times. They were such build and playstyle shifts there was no way to get attached. Tbh I feel like this is the same thing they did to Sylas
I like to play him Support, as Warden, for that i'd be fine to scrap his AP ratios in favor of protection and the taunt
Just played Galio jungle twice. Clear isn't optimal, but once you get past the early game, his R from the jungle is amazing.
I think galio should have 2 playstyles separatwd by the build. What i mean by that is if he builds ap he would be a bursty ap bruiser with his q and passive but if he build tank his e and w would have much shorter cooldown, making him cc tank
It's a trauma thing, any time I managed to pick him I got an adc mid to lane against
That’s why sometimes its better to pick your champ in slot 4 or 5, counterpicks exist and there are other alternatives if you’re against ADs (TF, Pantheon)
In my opinion, Galio suffers from a similar issue as Maokai. They’re both branded as Anti-Caster “mage tanks” but both have burst rotations and can’t be a consistent threat in fights. Maokai does have his passive to allow him to stick in fights well, but Galio really doesn’t have much. I’d love to see them move Galio in a bit more of a Mordekaiser direction so that AP tank builds could be realized, but as is thats difficult. I could see potentially giving Q some MR shred to give him more juggernaut qualities and potentially giving his passive or W more damage uptime with quakes or a Leona-esque anti magic burst or two after casting. Higher damage uptime allows him to reasonably build the few “AP bruiser” items we have.
PMD: Temporal Tower OST. In case you all were wondering about the music used. That game was my childhood~
I love Galio as a support. Gap close can be solved by shurelya’s, you can play off engages eithernon you or your adc, and the scrappy fights he prefers work really well in bot lane
TLDR : basically his rework was a FAIL, flashy and cool at first but such a balance issue and now barely seen. His old taunt was the best wombo
As new player to league ( started 4 months ago) he has become my main because of the ability to do damage while not getting one shot like a adc
Hey this is quite a.. I want to ask you of a favor @Vars.
*What happened to Maokai?* because he's kinda in the bin right now. And I think I've never in my life heard about a rework that was intended for a nerf.
will you make a video on swain after adjustments id be really interested on your thoughts on that
He should just be a tank like give him some hp scaling's on e and his passive so building health is better so he can do more from not just mr but hp. They would also need to nerf the ap scaling's on w and e I think because then hp bruiser would also be stronger and not just tank. I play him as tank and boy is it rough when you use all your cooldowns and do 10% of their hp because the only damage you have is your passive. On the passive they could make it's cooldown scale with hp so not more damage but more often making tank galio more consistent in damage and wave clear. Making him more persistent by lowing his numbers by lowering the cooldowns would also help. They can nerf other parts of his kit like maybe even the mr scaling on passive but some extra support for tank stats would be great for him. Same with gragus. Both are ap bruisers because they are tanks that suck at being tanks. For gragus I would give him hp scaling on w damage and e damage not much like 4% bonus hp but some. I think the main issue for galio and gragus is a lack of persistent anything and support for building tank stats. They do really need to up his scaling's for tank that he has as well cause you are basically just kench but more niche. Both are wardens but kench is way tankier, can protect allies better and has a longer ranged and maybe better engage, plus he has consistent damage even late game where as galio doesn't. if they can make his damage from tank be as consistent as kenches is throughout a match by lowering base stats and uping hp and mr scaling's then he would be a lot less polarising to play. I don't want him doing kench damage cause he gets other thing. For a stone colossus that can fall kilometres out of the sky and be fine he isn't very tanky. (Also give him malphite's secret passive but for mr so you can be massive from building mr. That doesn't help him in anyway, maybe makes him worse but it would make him feel more fun to play as a tank player.)
I'm surprised there are no "Why no one plays Maokai" video yet.
3:10 I feel bad about this but I your math is wrong 5% per 100 ap means he would get 30% bonus reduction not 60%.
DAMNIT.
6:08 Actually you can also E + Flash and engage from any direction and from nearly a fullscreen away or even through wall, you have to wait for him to dash forward and then flash. It's actually possible, try it yourself
I´d say ARAM does a great job showing why galio filed as a tank, he does not have the movility to make good use of his kit, his current E is simply not good enough.
For context Galio is one of the best tanks for ARAM (he is also great as full ap but thats missing the point)
His old on damage heal would solve a lot of his problems. It would force him to be a solo laner to get levels. Force him to either be a burst mage or a tank by having him need spirit visage for maximum tankiness and also prevent him form being a super tank support because of needing the levels and more expensive items to function at the best of his ability in terms on tankiness.
Simplified full list of changes I'd do as someone who had 1.5 mil mastery points on Galio pre rework:
Passive: shield moved to passive and scales with level and health. slam damage based off current shield+ap+mr
Q: higher tornado AP ratio
W: On damage heal on place of DR. On damage heal scales with AP and MR.
E: unchanged.
R: cannot be cast after being in combat for atleast 1 second. Slightly lower CD mid and late game.
Galio to me seems like suffering Azir syndrome, the simple kit it had can cover so much situation alot of things must get changed n' removed, until it reach a real mess that only can do everything decently
I play a lot of galio bot. I switched to him when the full tank support meta was gone, when the Brands, Xeraths and Zyras took over bot lane, Galio felt like a good inbetween a tank with cc and a mage, with the ability to do decent damage (at least in early game) but with enough survability and utility at the same time. Problem is he falls short on both tanking and dealing damage by late game. I think they should remove the MR scaling and change it with reduced magic damage from some other source, and reduce the AP ratios on his damaging abilities but adding HP scaling ratios, so he can scale into the lategame and still be useful.
He might experience a come back though.
With the durability update he starts feeling really good as a support again.
hes the champ you like having on your team but no one really wants to play him
That's exactly why i started playing him, loved to have on my team then started playing with him
@@trigas5578 absolute W mindseat king
Nope you are wrong about that. Before the nerf, a lot of players wants to use him. But Rito nerfed him many times.
@@kendivedmakarig215 Only because he was so incredibly strong.
@@OakenTome Galio is only good now when you are playing in a 5 man team and have good team composition. He isn't reliable to play him in solo que.
What a wild premiere chat lmaoooo
Great video as always Bars
I play Galio alot i'm m7 and i always find that he works on contradictions. Passive needs to be point blank but his q works best as poke, his W again is close range but when it's over he's squishy, his E makes him dash back first and his ultimate can ONLY be used on allies so he dosn't have an ult until someone needs him, he doesn't have the kit to help himself most of the time. Still love playing him though I love the way he plays. He just needs some conistency brought into the playstyle!
When I played Galio, back when I was trying to get into the game, his problem to me was that his ultimate is quite useless in 1 on 1, and unless you're playing with a team, it's useless for help because many folks abuse you for interfering in their lanes. It put in the same odd category as Ekko for me, where Ekko's problem is that his W and passive don't fit his attack speed (it feels like his W should be a time manipulation ability that either universally speeds him up or at least speeds up his attack speed).
For Galio, his ultimate achieves the same effect. It feels like his ultimate should be either a Hulk clap, a stronger version of his passive ground smash, or an enhanced state that makes his basic attack become his passive (maybe with a slow effect, or either put the slow effect on his steps so that when he moves, he creates craters that slow anyone in range).
He was by far my favorite char in the game, but too often in 1v1 ultimate was useless.
Considering your recent videos about rarely played/often fixed champions(Galio, Karma, Zoe) can you do a video about pro play and what impact does it have on the solo queue? I think that would be really interesting.
If you compare galio to poppy, since both champions can build tank or their respective damage types and work well either way, the problem galio runs into is as you said, uptime. He has nothing that passively encourages him to build tank, nor does he have abilities that he can use more than once a fight if he manages to buy time by building tank. Poppy can use her q up to five times vs one person in a late game fight, but galio can only do it twice, if that. Poppy's w passively gives her stats that increase on low health and her passive gives her a shield every few seconds, while galio only has his w which gives a magic damage shield out of combat and damage reduction on press.
I feel like they should just give him back his flash W combo and the dmg reduction on ult and make him a full tank
Yo vars, first of all that was a great episode, and i have a suggestion, you could make an episode on ekko, his pickrate is at 6% so he would make a good what happened to episode, and from what i know, the only time you talked about ekko is in your assasin video, again that was a really enjoyable vid and i hope anyone whos reading this has a good day
Because he was balanced around pro play (where he still gets played btw)
As a galio main i use it as a support using a tank build, it does work very well tbh, if you want to use it midlane, is a little bit more hard, but is fun to use