@@Gluemn I could be wrong but I always recognize different levels of maturity in 1 John 2 but our "mid Acts" brother Justin would then turn THAT into a word of interest ONLY for Israel (which he never came to really define WHO those are today). 🥴 Greetings from Germany, MARANATHA!
@Pezint Thank you Dear for responding gently. ❤️ I understand Pauls epistles as "the" prime teaching for the very MATURE believer, may they be from the Hebrew or the Gentile fraction. Also, I understand the HISTORICAL aspect in how the (real) church indeed began with Paul who taught "ALL of the counsel of God" (Acts 20:27 when leaving the apostles!) Yet I see ALL of the epistles as a WHOLE and useful, needed teaching for our daily walk during the time we live on earth as Christians. As you say, one thing is doctrine and "Theo- Logos" but the other is WALK in the Spirit plus daily practice and training. Pauls teaching was especially controversial BECAUSE of the Jews as doctrine seemed to cut off everything they knew for centuries before as it had turned into some religion. They wouldn't understand the ways of God and how it was HIS will to "change rules" now with Christ. Many people still have problems seeing that and how in fact there's pure "liberation" from legalism but they won't want THAT. Pauls teachings are the culminating point of what WE can TODAY know about God ever here on earth, BEFORE going home (either by death or in the rapture) as we will understand everything in perfection THEN after. Yet all other scripture (including OT wisdom!) is meant to help us along in daily life with the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit who indeed teaches us ALL things individually (when we ask HIM in faith, see James 1:5) and even more than Pauls epistles can. Grace and peace be with you, blessings abundant until we meet above! 🙏❤️
Eph. 2:8 applies to all dispensations. Men can only be saved by grace through faith lest they should boast. The covenant in the old testament applied to the nation of Israel and not to individual believers for these were justified by faith as Hebrews 11 asserts. To say that their salvation was determined by their performance negates the truth in your teaching prior to last part of your video. Nevertheless, thank you for the clear teaching on the position and condition of the believer.
I think you need to read a little bit more closely the book of Revelations. When you do, you will see that at that time Ephesians 2:8 is not going to apply.
@@INESCRUTABLE13 During several dispensations, salvation by "Faith" is also kind of "progressing" along with the revelation of the mystery. For instance, you have men calling upon the name (!) of the LORD quite early, even before any nation of Israel was built. Genesis 4:26 "And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos (= which means WEAK): *then began men to call upon the name of the LORD."* Then came sacrifices and performance, rules for salvation changed over time, and today we have the walk in the Spirit. During 'Jacobs Trouble' there will be works based salvation again because performance is tied to the rule whether one fears God more than men and does not take the mark of the beast (probably some kind of health "treatment" like 2020-23). As Israel didn't understand what performance was really about (= the HEART) in the first place when Jesus Christ came in person, they will have to "perform" again during their future time of testing on earth.
Instead of Standing on the Promises of God you my friend are standing on O'Hare Bollinger AC Moore Les Feldick among other hyper dispensationalist Bible rejecting fools.
I understand that Paul brought progressive revelation regarding faith, salvation and works; but this cannot be contractionary to what Jesus already stated (and therefore eternally true). During His ministry He said this about behaviour: Matthew 24;45-51 KJV --- "Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. --- Should we then make the interpretation that the servant stops having faith and therefore suffers condemnation & wrath? Else I'm still not fully convinced that actions (outside faith) do not matter regarding salvation. Love is one of those "relative" actions that do not fall under the category "the Law", because against love (as other fruit of the Spirit) there is no law (Gal 5;23 / Rom 13;10). I'm using the word "relative" since it's of course something we can't measure, but to what God is our judge. And the servant is a believer as we see here in Luke 12;46-48 --- "The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." --- Hope you will cover this in your teachings soon, and if you did, can point that to me. Thank you!
Both of those passages are parables of a ruler and a servant during the tribulation period where in a person can become a believer but can also during that time also lose their salvation if they're not steadfast in their faith and keeping the commandments of Christ. These are those people that will be judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ after the great tribulation.
I have and will always understand these passages in the light of "Christianity" as a whole, meaning wheat and tares mixed until judgement. The "servant" giving "meat in due season" is compared to a good and faithful teacher who EDIFIES the body of Christ; the other one is a hypocrite, thus unsaved. The second passage is about the MEASUREMENT of faith which can differ among believers. Each of us has been given different levels of understanding so this is a warning about our walk ACCORDING to what has been given to us individually.
@Pezint You are "prepared" by BELIEF which is a work of God in itself. (John 6:29 and many more) The felon on the cross was given BELIEF in the Son of God, that's all.
Fight the good fight of Faith and wait for the hope of righteousness by Faith.
Good, clear teaching. TY
Awesome message
Amen, thank you Justin. We've learned so much.
Thank You brother Justin!
❤ AMEN ❤
2nd Corinthians 11:3 kind of sums it up.
You've got it wrong!. everyone of us: creeps b4 we could Stand or Walk.
@@Gluemn👍👍👍🙏❤️
@@Gluemn I could be wrong but I always recognize different levels of maturity in 1 John 2 but our "mid Acts" brother Justin would then turn THAT into a word of interest ONLY for Israel (which he never came to really define WHO those are today). 🥴 Greetings from Germany, MARANATHA!
@Pezint Thank you Dear for responding gently. ❤️ I understand Pauls epistles as "the" prime teaching for the very MATURE believer, may they be from the Hebrew or the Gentile fraction. Also, I understand the HISTORICAL aspect in how the (real) church indeed began with Paul who taught "ALL of the counsel of God" (Acts 20:27 when leaving the apostles!) Yet I see ALL of the epistles as a WHOLE and useful, needed teaching for our daily walk during the time we live on earth as Christians. As you say, one thing is doctrine and "Theo- Logos" but the other is WALK in the Spirit plus daily practice and training. Pauls teaching was especially controversial BECAUSE of the Jews as doctrine seemed to cut off everything they knew for centuries before as it had turned into some religion. They wouldn't understand the ways of God and how it was HIS will to "change rules" now with Christ. Many people still have problems seeing that and how in fact there's pure "liberation" from legalism but they won't want THAT. Pauls teachings are the culminating point of what WE can TODAY know about God ever here on earth, BEFORE going home (either by death or in the rapture) as we will understand everything in perfection THEN after. Yet all other scripture (including OT wisdom!) is meant to help us along in daily life with the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit who indeed teaches us ALL things individually (when we ask HIM in faith, see James 1:5) and even more than Pauls epistles can.
Grace and peace be with you, blessings abundant until we meet above! 🙏❤️
Eph. 2:8 applies to all dispensations. Men can only be saved by grace through faith lest they should boast. The covenant in the old testament applied to the nation of Israel and not to individual believers for these were justified by faith as Hebrews 11 asserts. To say that their salvation was determined by their performance negates the truth in your teaching prior to last part of your video. Nevertheless, thank you for the clear teaching on the position and condition of the believer.
I think you need to read a little bit more closely the book of Revelations. When you do, you will see that at that time Ephesians 2:8 is not going to apply.
@@INESCRUTABLE13 During several dispensations, salvation by "Faith" is also kind of "progressing" along with the revelation of the mystery. For instance, you have men calling upon the name (!) of the LORD quite early, even before any nation of Israel was built.
Genesis 4:26 "And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos (= which means WEAK): *then began men to call upon the name of the LORD."*
Then came sacrifices and performance, rules for salvation changed over time, and today we have the walk in the Spirit. During 'Jacobs Trouble' there will be works based salvation again because performance is tied to the rule whether one fears God more than men and does not take the mark of the beast (probably some kind of health "treatment" like 2020-23). As Israel didn't understand what performance was really about (= the HEART) in the first place when Jesus Christ came in person, they will have to "perform" again during their future time of testing on earth.
@@INESCRUTABLE13 You mean people will be able to earn their salvation through works? Maybe it is you who needs to read the bible more closely.
Instead of Standing on the Promises of God you my friend are standing on O'Hare Bollinger AC Moore Les Feldick among other hyper dispensationalist Bible rejecting fools.
I understand that Paul brought progressive revelation regarding faith, salvation and works; but this cannot be contractionary to what Jesus already stated (and therefore eternally true). During His ministry He said this about behaviour: Matthew 24;45-51 KJV --- "Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. --- Should we then make the interpretation that the servant stops having faith and therefore suffers condemnation & wrath? Else I'm still not fully convinced that actions (outside faith) do not matter regarding salvation. Love is one of those "relative" actions that do not fall under the category "the Law", because against love (as other fruit of the Spirit) there is no law (Gal 5;23 / Rom 13;10). I'm using the word "relative" since it's of course something we can't measure, but to what God is our judge. And the servant is a believer as we see here in Luke 12;46-48 --- "The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." --- Hope you will cover this in your teachings soon, and if you did, can point that to me. Thank you!
Both of those passages are parables of a ruler and a servant during the tribulation period where in a person can become a believer but can also during that time also lose their salvation if they're not steadfast in their faith and keeping the commandments of Christ. These are those people that will be judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ after the great tribulation.
I have and will always understand these passages in the light of "Christianity" as a whole, meaning wheat and tares mixed until judgement. The "servant" giving "meat in due season" is compared to a good and faithful teacher who EDIFIES the body of Christ; the other one is a hypocrite, thus unsaved. The second passage is about the MEASUREMENT of faith which can differ among believers. Each of us has been given different levels of understanding so this is a warning about our walk ACCORDING to what has been given to us individually.
@Pezint You are "prepared" by BELIEF which is a work of God in itself. (John 6:29 and many more) The felon on the cross was given BELIEF in the Son of God, that's all.