Definitly helps a lot to sometimes just stop the car empty the mind and then just drive for the sake of it. No lape time to beat, No race to beat, just the car to experience :D
Even in rally where you often find yourself having to throw the car aggressively to even make the turns, must of the time not being smooth enough will literally end your run.
I'm happy to see tire load sensitivity talked about for once, I find that it's rarely talked about in these kinds of summaraised racing theory videos. I often hear "weight is transferred to the outside wheels where it's needed" and I almost scream at my monitor thinking "NO, you don't NEED more load on the outside wheels!" Ideally the load is equally distributed across all tires, but this isn't realistically possible (your car's centre of mass would need to be on the ground). However reducing body roll will help with even out the load. Smooth driving will help with this, but will help even more with brief spikes in load transfer or simply exceeding grip limits by demanding too much of the tires all at once. Anyway, good video, concise and accurate.
@@void_snw within reason body roll does have little effect, but with extreme body roll the centre of mass is displaced from the centre line and thus transfers more weight to the outside wheels.
I totally agree with your analysis. When I hit that wall you talk about (as well as actual walls around the track), I try and lift and coast. It's ridiculous how I can gain about a second (mostly on tracks or cars I don't know, otherwise its more like some tenths) while I had the feeling to be sending it around the track a couple of laps before. In addition to the fact that it can lower the lap times (or at least keeping them the same), it helps relaxing as well as completing more consistent laps, thus improving actual track time before a mistake and finally optimizing your training time. You end up less frustrated and having completed more laps that gives more info for for a potential upcoming race
This might explain why stiffer springs and ir sway bars can help even though they technically don't increase mechanical grip by that much? They will better distribute the load between tyres so you don't transfer as much load in a turn?
Me: *getting nervous while driving* *remembers this video and its advice* *stops my car to get into the mindset* *causes a 25 car collision killing 5 people and injuring 11 spectators*
That’s pretty interesting, I play on controller and sometimes I drive as if my inputs are in slow-mo, which in turn leads to smoother inputs, stability improvements and better rotation
There should be a new Initial D stage about Dorothy on her way to buy cat food in her Honda CRX but every time she gets on the touge, street racing noobs appear
I’ve always thought smooth and calm is faster. Until I watched your videos on 4 wheel drifting around corners At first I was like “no waaaay” Then I tried it around Tsukuba and my lap times tumbled like crazy, then I was like “oh my God, no waaaaay!” It’s not consistent by any means, so I don’t do it for races. But I reckon I need to find a way to be mega aggressive as well as calm
maybe you should try Inertia drifting where you use the momentum and weight of the car to take each corner, it helps you keep the momentum up after each corner without being to aggressive
I consider myself as a smooth driver. One day I did a bit if hotlapping around Bathurst in a 2014 V8 Supercar. I quickly got a best time of a 2:07.8, but I knew I could be faster. But everytime I went into tryhard, I overdrive the car and bottled the lap (mostly at Skyline Corner). So I decided to do only one more lap and stop. Throughout the lap I refused to look at the delta and said myself „it‘s just a cruise lap, keep calm“. At the end, it was a 2:05.9, almost 2s faster than my previous pb and only 2 tenths or so off the irl 2014 pole time. In the replay you can really see how smooth I was, especially on the throttle. So yes, smoother is waaay faster in racing games.
i personally dont own asetto corsa and play beamngdrive, if anyone doesnt know the game its a car game but CURRENTLY not that much driving physics but more crash physics. there are race tracks but i usually just race on normal roads. so i have a big problem with random, strong inputs. but im gonna try be smoother on racetracks in game. really good video.
Of course the goal and have a smooth resumption if you don't use traction control systems in yes racings, I used to put cars aside in the past, but now I use Smooth! Just enjoy the tour!
I drive like supra boy but I don't lose control of my car and usually for me being aggressive on makes the one behind me or the one in front to make a mistake from the pressure and fear that I might crash into them
some days ago mine friend just went to my place and i said almost something similar. Just don't hold the steering wheel so hard, try to feel the car and go with it.
Someone once argued with me that coasting through a curb is bad because it's "the least stable state". I understand trailbraking and accelerating to rotate is a thing, what do you think about what he said?
As an engineer I think it's something like this, but anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong: When you're coasting through a curb, due to the lateral forces it applies to the car the resilting force on the car will be actually "sideways", but when you're accelerating there's a force pushing the car forward, making the resulting force become mostly forward, thus upsetting less the car
Many people make mistake by choosing too fast car to begin with, over 300hp is quite handful in real life on track if not experienced driver and in sim you don't even feel the g forces so a bit harder to learn. Start with slow car so at the end you can push it to its limits and continue to faster ones 💪
wait what the math is not mathing vid posted 7 min ago ur comment 5 min ago how did you watch a 4 min vid in 2 minutes or did u just comment before warching
Sure smooth is fast but supraboy97 eventually learns to be more patient and smooth and ends up as an esports driver because you need to practice both sides of the limit. If your too nervous to step over that grip limit you never develope other important skills for serious pace and car control in unexpected situations. I Enjoy your videos, but wonder sometimes if you dont totally frame things in context so that contrary drivers like myself are compelled to add that additional engagement 😂😂😂❤❤❤
I think the simplest way to put it is that corners exist in a racetrack to make going in a straight line more difficult, as that's the fastest way to go from point A to point B. So whether it's your racing line or keeping the car balanced the goal is always to be going straight as often as possible. Super obvious but I don't believe many people consciously think of it as "My goal is to drive in a straight line as much as possible in spite of the corners"
AYO IDK if u seen Jimmy Broadbents vids of togue racing 1v1s but u a togue guy and he is becoming a togue guy so you ass gotta message him asap and challenge him to a best of how ever many races u want on ur home turf togue and show him whos the boss on the mountains before its too late my man. now i know u got way less clout than him but u cant just let him have the togue yt scene all to himself u need to assert some kind of dominance obviously
A Toyota that's made of 80%-90% of BMW parts... It's all sarcasm just to diss the MK5 as not being a genuine Toyota Edit : Some extra research, the BMW Z4 and the Toyota MK5 both share some of the majority of parts, mostly due to them being in the same production line and are both built in the same factory. Only difference are the exterior and interior, everything else is practically the same parts. Although, the MK5's parts are tuned by Toyota, so there's that.
Smooth is definitely faster racing games
Always has been
why waste time say lot words when few do trick
@@TSRB hardn't better, faster strongn't
@@TSRB facts mate🤷🤷
@@TSRB blassic
Definitly helps a lot to sometimes just stop the car empty the mind and then just drive for the sake of it.
No lape time to beat,
No race to beat,
just the car to experience :D
Lape???
Even in rally where you often find yourself having to throw the car aggressively to even make the turns, must of the time not being smooth enough will literally end your run.
Sebastian Loeb has entered the chat
@@Sushi_the_Idiotcolin mcrae has entered the chat
the editing and cinematics are underrated, simply lovely
like how calm he calls it a bmw🤣
Classic Toyota, uses so many outside parts for their cars.
"twat in the bmw" lol
I'm happy to see tire load sensitivity talked about for once, I find that it's rarely talked about in these kinds of summaraised racing theory videos.
I often hear "weight is transferred to the outside wheels where it's needed" and I almost scream at my monitor thinking "NO, you don't NEED more load on the outside wheels!" Ideally the load is equally distributed across all tires, but this isn't realistically possible (your car's centre of mass would need to be on the ground). However reducing body roll will help with even out the load. Smooth driving will help with this, but will help even more with brief spikes in load transfer or simply exceeding grip limits by demanding too much of the tires all at once.
Anyway, good video, concise and accurate.
Controlling body roll doesn't change how much weight transfer happens though.
@@void_snw within reason body roll does have little effect, but with extreme body roll the centre of mass is displaced from the centre line and thus transfers more weight to the outside wheels.
Is that BMW of yours as tail-happy as the mod version of it you featured man? Because wow, that's fun.
Damn didnt know Toyota made body kits for the Z4
now u know :)
haha very funny
They also make bodykits for the Subaru BRZ
@@rodracer4567 you mean nameplates?
I totally agree with your analysis. When I hit that wall you talk about (as well as actual walls around the track), I try and lift and coast. It's ridiculous how I can gain about a second (mostly on tracks or cars I don't know, otherwise its more like some tenths) while I had the feeling to be sending it around the track a couple of laps before.
In addition to the fact that it can lower the lap times (or at least keeping them the same), it helps relaxing as well as completing more consistent laps, thus improving actual track time before a mistake and finally optimizing your training time. You end up less frustrated and having completed more laps that gives more info for for a potential upcoming race
2:44 i see what you did there
This might explain why stiffer springs and ir sway bars can help even though they technically don't increase mechanical grip by that much?
They will better distribute the load between tyres so you don't transfer as much load in a turn?
yes but you need to be careful because the car is jolted left and right and stiffer could make the car more prone to oversteer
Smooth Operator~
Carlos Sainz
Smooooth operator
Me: *getting nervous while driving*
*remembers this video and its advice*
*stops my car to get into the mindset*
*causes a 25 car collision killing 5 people and injuring 11 spectators*
Meanwhile me, a broke keyboard player: yes, this will help.
(Great vid, once i save up for a sim setup I'll put this knowledge to good use)
Ah yes another fellow keyboard warrior
gang
i have no idea how anyone can play a racing game on keyboard, massive respect
Feels good to see fellow legends
It is so counterintuitive to drive smooth like that. Thanks for the tips.
I have also come up with a technique to relax while driving
*glances over to bottle of jack daniels*
That’s pretty interesting, I play on controller and sometimes I drive as if my inputs are in slow-mo, which in turn leads to smoother inputs, stability improvements and better rotation
Really well made video!!
There should be a new Initial D stage about Dorothy on her way to buy cat food in her Honda CRX but every time she gets on the touge, street racing noobs appear
I’ve always thought smooth and calm is faster. Until I watched your videos on 4 wheel drifting around corners
At first I was like “no waaaay”
Then I tried it around Tsukuba and my lap times tumbled like crazy, then I was like “oh my God, no waaaaay!”
It’s not consistent by any means, so I don’t do it for races. But I reckon I need to find a way to be mega aggressive as well as calm
the answer is speed violence and momentum.
maybe you should try Inertia drifting where you use the momentum and weight of the car to take each corner, it helps you keep the momentum up after each corner without being to aggressive
@@apiestink I can hear Clarkson screaming: SPEED AND POWER!
I consider myself as a smooth driver. One day I did a bit if hotlapping around Bathurst in a 2014 V8 Supercar. I quickly got a best time of a 2:07.8, but I knew I could be faster. But everytime I went into tryhard, I overdrive the car and bottled the lap (mostly at Skyline Corner). So I decided to do only one more lap and stop. Throughout the lap I refused to look at the delta and said myself „it‘s just a cruise lap, keep calm“. At the end, it was a 2:05.9, almost 2s faster than my previous pb and only 2 tenths or so off the irl 2014 pole time. In the replay you can really see how smooth I was, especially on the throttle. So yes, smoother is waaay faster in racing games.
Flying with your fingertips is a common adage for those that are learning to become a pilot. You don't want a ham fist your inputs
i personally dont own asetto corsa and play beamngdrive, if anyone doesnt know the game its a car game but CURRENTLY not that much driving physics but more crash physics. there are race tracks but i usually just race on normal roads. so i have a big problem with random, strong inputs. but im gonna try be smoother on racetracks in game. really good video.
Of course the goal and have a smooth resumption if you don't use traction control systems in yes racings, I used to put cars aside in the past, but now I use Smooth! Just enjoy the tour!
I needed this video! I overdrive wayy too much.
famous f1 driver like Jenson Button he was smooth as butter
My fingertips are just far too powerful for this tip to apply to me.
I drive like supra boy but I don't lose control of my car and usually for me being aggressive on makes the one behind me or the one in front to make a mistake from the pressure and fear that I might crash into them
some days ago mine friend just went to my place and i said almost something similar. Just don't hold the steering wheel so hard, try to feel the car and go with it.
Someone once argued with me that coasting through a curb is bad because it's "the least stable state". I understand trailbraking and accelerating to rotate is a thing, what do you think about what he said?
As an engineer I think it's something like this, but anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong:
When you're coasting through a curb, due to the lateral forces it applies to the car the resilting force on the car will be actually "sideways", but when you're accelerating there's a force pushing the car forward, making the resulting force become mostly forward, thus upsetting less the car
Thank you! ❤
hello there TSRB! i want the next vid to be about the mr2 aw11, mazda miata and honda CR-X del sol (the three roadsters)
P.S. is a suggestion
Many people make mistake by choosing too fast car to begin with, over 300hp is quite handful in real life on track if not experienced driver and in sim you don't even feel the g forces so a bit harder to learn. Start with slow car so at the end you can push it to its limits and continue to faster ones 💪
great vid dude
Oh my god dude i always love your videos! Didnt expect you here
wait what the math is not mathing
vid posted 7 min ago ur comment 5 min ago how did you watch a 4 min vid in 2 minutes or did u just comment before warching
@@plonk7105 i did i just commented half way through
if i tried the finger tip on my wheel i'd be sent to the emergency room 😂
I wonder what’s the full name of the BMW version of the MK5 Supra
where can i get that CRX mod? ive been looking for one for ages now
Instructions unclear, I stopped to calm down, got smashed into by another driver and now I’m banned for life
One of the best video ive seen from you bro keep it up and thanks for the opportunity of thumbnail love yall bro ❤️
Instructions uncle, my fingers are gone.
That rhd Yaris is nice
Corolla*
@@exomotors7380 oh my days it says it on the back😂😂 oops
@@HPsawus tbh i get them wrong too, but the Corolla has a central exhaust and is a fat boi 😂
Link for the CRX?
i just noticed the diss you threw at the mk5 by calling it a bmw lol
Sure smooth is fast but supraboy97 eventually learns to be more patient and smooth and ends up as an esports driver because you need to practice both sides of the limit. If your too nervous to step over that grip limit you never develope other important skills for serious pace and car control in unexpected situations. I Enjoy your videos, but wonder sometimes if you dont totally frame things in context so that contrary drivers like myself are compelled to add that additional engagement 😂😂😂❤❤❤
I play assetto corsa with mouse steering and I notice that I'm slightly faster in corner than my friend with his g29 🤣
Could you play midnight racing again
1:35 bro u sure, if the its the maximum traction its litteraly 0 kph
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The mistake i've seen some people commit is thinking every race car is the same as an F1. 👍
Jajaja i also do that with muy fingers, but only when i know im gonna win and im un the last lap and in the outlaps
One of the few sim racers I trust not to succumb to groupthink
Me on my mouse and keyboard settup
Explain all the cars edit in the thumbnails lol
my favourite part is he repeatedly calls the new supra a BMW
Petition to have more of supra boy 69
If one is always going fast you are slow - Cumbo Tzu
Now i will use this guy tips in a 2d racing game lol
smooth operator is that a jojo reference?
I don't get it
carlos sainz reference lol
@@TSRB oh oke
@@TSRB Sorry, that's Sarlos Cainz for you.
I think the simplest way to put it is that corners exist in a racetrack to make going in a straight line more difficult, as that's the fastest way to go from point A to point B.
So whether it's your racing line or keeping the car balanced the goal is always to be going straight as often as possible. Super obvious but I don't believe many people consciously think of it as "My goal is to drive in a straight line as much as possible in spite of the corners"
good video, unfortunately it would be better if the the "a90 is a bmw" joke that was actually a funny joke or not on the video at all
But its true bmw supra or toyota z4 😂
AYO IDK if u seen Jimmy Broadbents vids of togue racing 1v1s but u a togue guy and he is becoming a togue guy so you ass gotta message him asap and challenge him to a best of how ever many races u want on ur home turf togue and show him whos the boss on the mountains before its too late my man. now i know u got way less clout than him but u cant just let him have the togue yt scene all to himself u need to assert some kind of dominance obviously
Dorothy😍😍
she a baddie fr
Please provide is with more information about your cat.
I was waiting on you to tell us that the was Supra-boy drives is making him/us **SLOW**. Alas, I was disappointed.
What BMW?
the yellow one
@@TSRB Bloody Germans, copy pasted the abysmal Toyota design.
nice
Asphalt 9: Yeaaaaahhh.... NO
smooth faster racing games
Ok
Crx gang gang
*instructions not clear hit a wall and died*
Sory
no worries :)
Milking the "don't overdrive your car" theory ?
That's like the 3rd vid you made on the topic on the last couple of month 😂😂
Ehh, it’s just a game.
it's a simulation
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Reese’s puffs
LNER J94
It s called toyota not bmw thank you
A Toyota that's made of 80%-90% of BMW parts... It's all sarcasm just to diss the MK5 as not being a genuine Toyota
Edit : Some extra research, the BMW Z4 and the Toyota MK5 both share some of the majority of parts, mostly due to them being in the same production line and are both built in the same factory. Only difference are the exterior and interior, everything else is practically the same parts. Although, the MK5's parts are tuned by Toyota, so there's that.
"slow and smooth and smooth is fast"
good video, unfortunately it would've been better if the the "a90 is a bmw" joke that was actually a funny joke or not on the video at all