Greatness for LESS 🤯 Martin Logan Motion XT B100 Review
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► MARTIN LOGAN MOTION XT B100 REVIEW - GREATNESS FOR LESS
00:00 INTRO MARTIN LOGAN SPEAKERS
00:15 MOTION XT B100 SPECS
01:06 HOME THEATER & STEREO PAIRING RECS
01:40 MARTINLOGAN MOTION XT B100 BUILD QUALITY
02:10 MARTIN LOGAN SETUP & PLACEMENT
03:10 B100 MEASUREMENTS
03:48 MARTIN LOGAN SOUND (BASS PERFORMANCE)
04:14 DO I NEED A SUBWOOFER?
04:47 MIDRANGE & TREBLE
05:40 SOUNDSTAGE & DYNAMICS
06:18 SPEAKER COMPARISONS
06:32 MARTIN LOGAN VS BOWERS & WILKINS
06:59 LUMINA II VS B100
07:21 MARTIN LOGAN SPEAKERS VS KLIPSCH
07:50 POLK VS MARTIN LOGAN
08:08 XT B100 VS XT F100
08:38 FINAL THOUGHTS
08:53 KRISTI + ANDREW CONVO
09:36 PRO-JECT VS MARTIN LOGAN
11:30 ARENDAL 1961
12:37 WHARFEDALE EVO/DENTON
14:23 MARTIN LOGAN VS FOCAL
15:45 KRISTI ON THE B100
17:09 KRISTI’S FAVORITE MOTION SPEAKER
19:03 OLD MOTION VS NEW MOTION SPEAKERS
21:07 QUESTION OF THE DAY
That MARTIN LOGAN sound!! 🤯 Motion XT B100 Review
Martin Logan Greatness for LESS 🤯 Martin Logan Motion XT B100 Review
How do the new Martin Logan speakers stack up against the bigger F100 tower? Can you get by with the Motion bookshelf speakers or are the towers the way to go? In this Martin Logan speaker review we go over all the specs, the Martin Logan sound, speaker placement recommendations and a lot of speaker comparisons.
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Hi Andrew. Great review. Please could we get some Arcam, Naim, Dali, NAD, KEF, Linn, Audio Research, Dan D'agostino, Tannoy and PSB, and reviews. Starting to feel a little like you're stuck on just a few brands. Would love to hear your review of, for example, the Tannoy Prestige Westminster or the Arcam AVR41 etc.
@@Jprjason123 If you aren't seeing a brand represented, it's very likely NOT due to a lack of effort on our part. If there is something you want to see on the channel, we recommend you reach out to those brands and let your voice be heard.
Thanks for the review!!! That sounds like a great speaker to me. 🙂
It just occurred to me that one of the reasons I enjoy this channel is that aside from the educational and entertainment value is that even though I will never be able to afford to explore the vast world of this hobby you bring your knowledge and affability to (I'm assuming) many of us who just like to dream. Growing up in NY in the 70s this was a snobbish environment that had no patience for plebeians like me. In my retirement years, your channel feels like home.
You guys continually, and by a margin, keep delivering my favourite hifi-content. And also, that Eames is beautiful.
Thank you for the kind words!
is the eames a replica?
Kristi, I loved it when you also answered your own comparison questions that you posed to Andrew. You did this so awesomely during last week's Klipsch RP-8000F IIs video too. I'm not sure you always have an opinion ready for your own questions to Andrew, but I love it when you include your opinion too! Thanks again for another amazing video! Have a great Sunday you two!!!
Thank you so much!
*Hit that LIKE button if you enjoyed the video! It really does help.* 🙏
Always enjoy your videos.
@@Breakinlife007 Thank you, Cole!
Thank you Kristi. I did like these but had to give the review a second listen, wish i heard more of your thoughtsvon these :)
I love the comparisons Thank you, cole
Martin Logan or Kef? Answer and I’ll like the video. 😝
I purchased the F200 and put them as my mains, moving my current XT60's to the rears. I thought the XT 60's were really good but the 200's are amazingly good. Like your channel and the reviews you give. Great job.
Thank you! Thank you! For answering my question and helping my decision!
I have the Motion 35XTi bookshelf’s and was about to buy a Rel T7X to round off what I thought was lacking on the lower mids and bass. Now I am going for the F100’s and selling my 35xti. The fact that the port is under the speaker and the fact that I don’t need a sub makes this my endgame speaker. I love my 35xti’s but always thought It could just better. The Sub I had just didn’t match well, the sounded better ok their own. So to fork out $4,500.00 and enjoy.
Thanks for this review guys. I was one of the people who asked for it in the comments of the other MartinLogan video. I have my pair coming in two days!
Our pleasure!
I was thinking of grabbing a pair of M-L Electromotion ESL or ESL-X, but have put the brakes on till I hear the Motion F-100 and F-200 models. Thank you, Kristi and Andrew, for the recent reviews on the new M-L Motion models! 😉👍
what a great channel and a refreshing, optimistic but not shilling tone of reviews you guys run. i just feel thoroughly interested and informed and not cattleprodded into "gotta have this" territory. i'm pretty new to hifi and your voice is what a community of hobbyists needs. these video's dont give me buyers anxiety, but actually make me see the fun in it all
I sincerely appreciate your comment and welcome you to our channel and the hobby! Have a great day!
BRAVO!!! Thank you so much for covering the placement to the wall with so much detail. Such a great help for so many of us!
Also, I’m totally getting the bookshelf and dual subs. This gives much more control over sound when distance from the wall is limited
Martin Logan has always been in a league of their own! Even if other stuff sounds better, ML has always had a particular luxurious sound and feel to them. Amazing brand!
Thank you for another great review and checking out the B100 in addition to the towers! Could be a good option for those looking to upgrade their bookshelves!
Martin Logans were breath taking when I heard them, they were my first audio speakers Ive ever heard 20 years ago...
I don’t think these will sound anything like the ones you owned
Another terrific review. I like the captions on the bottom left of the screen. A nice bonus. Well done!
Glad you like them!
Great review, as usual. I especially appreciated Kristi's prompts at the end for the extended comparisons. I noticed the color balance seemed a little cooler this time - Andrew's skin tones erred towards the blue. Was that deliberate - or just using more daylight?
Wow, what an exceptionally articulated review! I got what I needed from this, and given that my use will be for home theater AND two-channel, and you need a subwoofer for home theater regardless, the B100’s will be my choice. Well done, and thank you!
Thanks for not forgetting about my Evo4 kristi 😭
I always like to so how it compares to new speakers and it makes me love them more thanks!
Great review Andrew and Kristi as always! These speakers sound interesting to me, I'm a Focal fan. I love bright, detailed, forward, wide and huge soundstage! So I'd never look at or even consider Polk. I've been waiting for your review on Technics speakers...... Is that coming or not? I'm really curious about them! I love the Technics SU-G700M2 integrated amp pairing with Focal Chora 806 speakers and subwoofer!
Great review! I was one of those that asked you to make this review after doing the floor stander! Thank you!! 👍
I'm looking into upgrading the bookshelves in my office and these are at the top of my list to demo. Also curious to listen to the mini Maggie system from Magnepan. I love the sound of panel speakers, and it sounds like the B100s may have a little bit of that magic to them.
Based on the F100 review on this channel, I felt the B100 bookshelves and C100 center were worth my time to audition as upgrades to my Polk LSiM 703 and 704c LCR setup (already have subs for each of the LCR), particularly as I always felt the Polks were lacking in detail and imaging compared to my Focal Elex headphone setup. After auditioning them yesterday, I ordered on the spot. Clear step-up from my existing Polks in detail and the imaging elicited an audible "wow" from me. Staging also felt more open, and goodness did electric guitars sound good (highly recommend listening to Tool's "The Pot" on this line). I was NOT expecting them to be as good as they were. While not cheap, for what they are they feel like a bargain (I was expecting to have to shell out a lot more for this clear of a performance jump). Went with the gloss black finish (pictures do not do it justice...went in thinking I would like walnut the most, but the gloss black was super impressive in person). Big thanks to Andrew and Kristi for putting this series on my radar!!!
That's tall praise. The polk lsim is a damn good line. I have the lsim707 and have been hunting the 703s. Now you got questioning if I need to audition the martin logans.
@charlesking4843 Well worth an audition, especially if you find yourself wanting in the same areas I did with the Polks (and desire/are fine with a more forward presentation). Excited to see how the Martin Logans do in my space once they arrive, particularly at lower volumes (have found I need to turn up the volume on the Polks for them to come alive, which is not the best in an apartment...)
Nice pick on the B100 Bookies.
I had the Polk LSi15 LR and LSiC for a good 17 years. ...when it came time to upgrade my system, I ended up scrapping Polk, and went with Revel. Yes, I chose bookshelf M16 + REL HT1003 over my Polk LSi series.
Polk can be a gateway drug into hi-fi, but there are SO many other speakers makers out there that deserve people's attention.
@@rwaring58 how are the XL B100's for low and medium volume listening in your apartment? I also am in an apartment and looking at these real hard
@lawpenner Definitely better than the Polks were (at all volumes). Admittedly the LSiM 703s were easier to dial in to the subs (B100 still an excellent speaker without, but a sub really helps fill it out). Those 703s are BIG and have more authority on the low frequencies (and are pretty flat before roll off), although the MLs have the clear edge in bass speed and texture. Midrange up the MLs just win. Details are easier to make out and the soundstage and imaging are out of this world. Dialogue from the C100 center channel also noticeable inprovement over the LSiM 704c. I have zero hesitation recommending these.
Heard these in person this weekend... Very nice!
May I add? I am very pleased to see Martin Logan offering some new and rather impressive dynamic speakers according to your review Andrew. I was very happy to see you making note on ML's OWN subwoofers. I have the Classic 9's electrostatics AND paired with a Dynamo 1600x. The Anthem room correction and the remote app. is one of a kind for subwoofer control! I would highly recommend keeping a 2.1 channel system all from the same company. You get synergy !😊
I listened to about all of them in this price range. I went with the Focal Aira 906. The bass they have, while not super low, is quick and tight. They image well, and the mids are sweet. HIghs are plenty clear while being non fatiguing.
Love the video! And I want to add that having Kristy as part of this channel is what makes your videos stand out from the other audio review channels on RUclips.
Thank you, John!
I might demo these just based on the tweeter design,but I would love to see spinorama data.I have a finicky room and seeing how speakers perform on and off axis really help in finding compatibility for my room and setup.
35 years ago I found a pair of Martin Logan bookshelf speakers at a yard sale. It was at that point my hifi journey began. The company has a special place in my heart. I had an el cheapo Sears branded stack, they were so much better than the speakers than came with the set. Joy to my ears. I don't know how old they were when I got them lasted me 15 years or so in one room or another.
Love your reviews! I would love them even more if you added a tiny detail: how wide is the speakers’ (these and all the others you review going forward) “sweet spot?” In “real world” conditions this is one of the most critical details because frankly, music and movies are better enjoyed with a friend or family member or 3 at your side. Can we all enjoy pin point imaging and a wide soundstage, or will that be a luxury for a single person with their “head in a vice?” Nobody mentions this in their reviews, and since you two are a pair you are in a prime position to test this information. Please try to mention it in the future!
Hello. This is my first time writing. I really like your review format as a couple. I know you have mentioned that these ML hint at the performance of Focal (which I have an older pair of Cobalts 806). Would these (MLs)compare to the higher Focals speakers you have reviewed. Thank you. Again really love your format as a couple,
B100. It would better suit my room and needs. Excellent dispersion traits are a big plus. I have neighbours to consider plus I am not a boom boom head. Articulation and detail over thud thud, easily. They really do look very fine.
Oh , I currently run a pair of Elac Uni-fi 2.0. Upgrade possibility here. Amplifier, no problem. Andrew, anyone help here ?
Thanks guys, good reviews Andrew and Kristi. This tag team approach works very well.
I currently own the ML Motion 40 speakers (original version) and absolutely love them. They can get a tad harsh if I am not careful but the detail is amazing. Shopping for new speakers, I cannot find anything that is comparable until I get to the $10k range, detail wise.Lots of speakers that are close but if you factor in the fact I would have to buy the new speakers, they are just not worth the money for a slight or no upgrade in sound.
I think I just really like the ribbon tweeter over a dome.
These new MLs are very interesting and have me considering upgrading to them. I would get the F100 or the F200 depending on how each sounds when I audition them.
@Barefoot For a long time I had the Schiit Vidar (still have it).. but recently switched to the Benchmark AH2B or whatever the model number is. Both sound fantastic on the Motion 40 speakers.
Finally a video to make me smile and dream because I can't upgrade before I move to another country...I'd choose the towers of course, mostly if they're that good to keep them for ten years or more. Have a great day!
Thanks for weighing in and watching!
Great review guys. Impressed with what ML is doing here.
Loving the journey ! Please review the RP 500M II s to round out the affordable bookshelves punching above their weight
Love to see some more Q Acoustic reviews especially their bookshelf speakers!
Really enjoyed the review and thanks Kristi for bringing up the speaker comparisons. I've had the ML XT B100's for almost a week now and they sound great with the Crown XLS 2502 amp, Denon AVR-X3600H receiver and a PSA 15" sealed subwoofer. I don't really believe in speaker break-in, but they did sound somewhat disappointing at first listen where drums had no impact and the overall sound to me was subdued. After around 12 hours - 15 hours, the sound appears to have settled in??? as I'm really enjoying them now. Note that the manual states 72 hours of break-in at 90dB before any critical listening. They are replacing a pair of B&W 705 S2's which will go in another room. Thanks again for the review.
Some speakers absolutely have break-in. I have had multiple pairs of the same speakers and observed a change in sound from new to broken-in. The typical trend is that they sound 'tight' at first. They develop more bass over time and typically smoother highs. Soundstage depth increases as well. Not all speakers break-in though.
This is coming from a guy who has had more than 40 speakers in my house this year. Not as many as Andrew and Krisi, but I'm working on it!
We've all heard debate whether break-in is real or not but I routinely see shipped with high-end audio products that are designed and manufactured by the industry's best, break-in in the official owner instructions.
I've listened to Paul at PS Audio explain the different mechanical parts, drivers, even capacitors... how they break in
Looks like you just experienced breakin for yourself. Thanks for sharing this real world experience
Good to hear someone else found breaking in to be beneficial. I found the same thing with the older Motion 15i’s and 60xti’s. I told my youngest (and he agreed) “Is it me, or do these speakers sound better?”. They seemed a little harsh at first, but after several hours of listening, they do sound better. I will be getting in the Polk R700’s within a couple days and can’t wait to compare!
You guys nailed this review. I'm so impressed with your spot on recollections of the Focal Chora 806's!
Focal is amazing!!
@@ivanfilatov7913 I use 8 806's for surround/height duties in my HT. I thought I was half nuts when I purchased them but they made an amazing difference over the Emotiva's I had in there previously.
@Bear Claw No, you're not nuts! I'd do it too!
@@bearclaw5115 I'm thinking about doing the same thing...buying a number of these Focal 806's. Did you purchase them at the current price of $299 each?
Any downside to these speakers? Is the Tweeter too harsh or simblant at all? I'm a bit weary of aluminum don't tweeters. You tell me
And what do you say about the common complaint that these are a bit lacking in the bass?
Once again, this ML line in this particular finish, is so classy looking. The only current speaker line that i prefer visually is that JBL SDI line in the grey wood finish. Lack of deep bass aside, i would love to hear these. Looks alone? Total breakaway slam dunk. Cheers!
Appreciate you weighing in! I think I need to check out those JBLs.
I havent heard them myself. But that grey finish option looks great in the pictures ive seen. Only seen the gloss black in person. (Meh)
Another Great Review!
What about the comparison with the KEF LS50 Meta?
Great review!! How do you feel they compare to Kef LS50 Meta? Same msrp at $1599 a pair.
Very nice review, enjoyed it. Looking forward to demo the F200s in Singapore 🇸🇬. It is currently unavailable in Singapore 😢
Also, you are dead right about the Focal 806s being a crazy deal at under $600. Compared to my similarly priced Kef q350s the Focal do everything (that’s important to me) better. It was a significant upgrade, and I’ve not heard better for less than twice the price.
Focal 806s. They’ve been on sale at that price since this summer. I bought some. They are bright and need warmer amp pairing or EQ. They have terrific imagining, especially at lowish volume. I am using with sub to help them flesh out midrange. They are very handsome and in my case girlfriend-approved.
I have two MartinLogan Dynamo 1100x and I am happy to say they are amazing. I highly recommend people consider them because the room correction is worth it alone
If anyone is curious, you can check the Dynamo out here bit.ly/3EOFgWi.
As always loved the video! my favorite channel in the world! Im a die hard polk man , but just curious , do you have any experience with cerwin vega speakers? or any chance you may be reviewing them in future?
I am thinking of getting Paradigm Founder 100F, 80F, or 40B pairs. Funny think is Paradigm and MartinLogan and Anthem are all owned and controlled by the Scott Bagby and his son John. One thing they have in common is both Founder series and the new Martin Logan's are both beautiful in different ways--and both series have NO VISIBLE SCREWS. I like that a lot. Robinsons: Are you going to review the Paradigm Founder Series speakers ?
Maybe the bass is getting mixed with the mids because the speaker is trying to produce both sounds. Just my thought on the bookshelf clarity. Either way this sounds like an amazing bookshelf.
Loved your review. Always on the quest for better sound. As another poster mentioned, would love to see you review JTR Speakers, as that is what I own. My Brother thinks I will be hard pressed to find better, yet I am wondering it the Q Acoustics or ML F100 Towers will be better than my JTRs. I also worry every time I hear about how you pair amplifiers to speakers wondering if I have it righty. I am driving my speakers with an Emotiva XPA-5 and Antherm AVM70.
You're amps are fine for those speakers. You needn't worry. As for any reviews of JTR, it's not a brand that we are currently seeking samples to review. That said, I wouldn't second guess your choices. Enjoy what you have.
Awesome review! I've been waiting for this one and it didn't disappoint. Sounds like it would pair beautifully with my PSA sub. Or move the sub to my wife's room and get the F100 towers.
Thanks for pointing out speakers better for low-level listening. I live in an apartment, so cranking it up just isn't an option. Also, I really don't enjoy listening to things at a really loud volume the way I did when I was younger.
I have a mix of the prior 2 generations of Martin Logan Motion bookshelfs. The Motion 15s, Motion 30 center, Motion LX16s top heights, Motion 2i as surrounds.
Absolutely love how the Motions are so lively and bright without being fatiguing. I find that I can enjoy music at much lower audio levels than before when I had ELAC front stage. Don’t need to push the motions too hard for them to sound great and give long pleasant listening session. Mine are pairs with an SVS 1000 (non ported).
With amplification they sound even better but I enjoyed them for 2 years with no amp just fine. I now have an Outlaw 5000x driving my entire front stage.
I have a smallish listening/viewing space (12Dx14W) and I sit about 8' from the front speaker plane, so I'd go with the bookies + sub (maybe two).
Now I'm curious to find out what you think about these compared to the Revel M16. ;-)
Also - let's get on with that Anthem MRX review. I have decisions to make. LOL
I am looking forward to listening to the XT B100s. I have heard the B10s. And they rock. No joke for $1200 a pair, they give the Bowers and Wilkens 704 S3s a run for the money.
Martin Logan is just such an amazing speaker company.
I do prefer the electro statics though.
Hey guys,
Why no comparison with the ls50 metas when reviewing bookshelf speakers even though they were speaker of the year a while back?
Btw, bought my son a node and crown amp for his first setup in his new/first house per your suggestion. Thanks!
Hi! I have been enjoying the ls 50 metas these couple of years. I am impressed with their details and imaging. They are paired with parasound a21+, rogue rp1 preamp, denafrips ares2 and rel t5x.
Are these martin logans a level upgrade from the ls 50 metas? Thanks .
I went to Best Buy's listening room, as it's the only spot to test equipment in my town. They had these B100s. I loved them paired with the REL - T/7X. I nearly bought on the spot. My buddy is pushing me to get the Klipsch RP 600 ii. Best Buy didn't have them out, though, so I am struggling to decide whether the B100 is worth nearly twice as much as the RP 600ii speakers. Hmmm. Hmmm.
Very nice review. I would really like to know how the two of you compared these to the monitor audio silver.
If I'm going to add a good subwoofer anyways tower or bookshelf, is the tower a waste? Or will I get even better bass? Just in the sweet spot not for multiple people.
Thanks! I would love to see you review the Goldenear BRX or the Buchart S4 or S500, in general, but also because I feel these would be great compared to the MLs .
Appreciate the support! Be sure to let GE know about your wishes. As for the other, that will not be happening. Sorry.
I’d pick the F100 tower…I think I’ve reached my end game bookshelf with the KEF R3 …and with the new R3 Meta’s coming out, I’m hoping there is a review on the horizon :)
Thanks again Andrew and Kristi for a great review!!
R3s are on my wish list if i decide i cant fit f100s
@@jonathanwills4726 R3 Meta is better now than the plain R3
Kristi, we only need comparisons to EVERY speaker since the beginning of the channel! For myself, totally interested in the towers. My 12 year old is suddenly into vinyl. Building a system for him I’m leaning towards the Lumina II’s after this review since bass without a sub maybe better with those. And a bit cheaper.
Her name is Kristi. Also your 12yr old is very lucky! Your kid may be better off with the Polk R200's though as kids are more sensitive to highs than us adults.
@@bearclaw5115 I know her name. Been here for awhile. What we old people call spell check! ;)
Great review as always! Would like to see you review the Teufel Ultima 40!
Hi, thanks for all your insights and inspiration. Quick question on the Martin Logan’s. Can they be driven by the cinema 50?
Another great video guys. Gosh love your job. 😀
Hi, nice review like always, according your taste, are these Martin Logan XT B100 is better to pair with Yamaha-RN2000A or Audiolab 7000A??
Hey Andrew thanks for the awesome review of the Martin Logan B100 I did have the older model but like you said you would up grade for look’s alone I managed to pick up a pair of open box for $1200 awesome speaker compared to the older model
Now here’s my question can I get away with using a different manufacturer for side surround like the Emotiva A+2 surround I already have the A1 for heights they do have any tweeter as well . I’m asking because marring logan can be very expensive .
Thanks for the feed back
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I may have done poorly, but I could not afford the new line, so I bought 2 40i towers to go with my motion 30 center and am very happy considering the closeout deal I got. I had 2 motion 15's before getting the towers.
I have the original motion 40 towers and absolutely love them. Nothing beats them until you get to the $10k price point, though lots of things match or come close. I have not heard the current Motion XT line an am hopeful this is finally the upgrade I have been wanting.
Love your channel and every video you put out there. Have you reviewed Golden Ear BRX? Would like to see your comparison between these 2 speakers. Thanks!
I have not reviewed them on this channel but back in my print days, I did. They've never approached us for a review now that you mention it. 🤷♂️
A question about comparisons. I hear you asking whether a speaker is 2 or 3 times better than another for comparison. When do you think the law of diminishing returns comes in? Is it not within the price ranges you are showing or do you not take it into account?
Would get the towers. Would probably still blend in a sub or two. Great review.
I've always had towers, so the F100s would be my choice. I recently upgraded to 4 ohm - 3 way speakers that required an upgraded Anthem amp but love them.
Great review yet again.
Question do you think by adding a Marantz MM7055, 5 channel power amp to an RZ 50 it would have the sufficient properties to drive the F 100, C100 and B10's while the RZ 50 takes care of the Atmos speakers.
Thanks.
I hated the RZ-50! I was surprised after all the +reviews. To my ears, vocals sounded narrow and pinched, too shrill. I returned it for a Marantz 7015 which sounds absolutely beautiful!
The answer to your question is yes, the combo would work. But if you do not already own the RZ-50+7055, I'd just buy a high end Marantz/Denon receiver instead. That way you'd get higher sound quality and not just extra power.
Seeing how I already have some ML electrostats, I'd definitely go with the towers, given I have the space to accomodate them. Bass capabilities don't really play a role personally, as I'd always stick with a subwoofer no matter which speakers I'd throw in my livingroom. Glad to see they're making some cool cabinet speakers as well now! Kristi's take on soundstaging/sonic imaging in the review got me somewhat curious about how the speakers from this lineup compare to their ESL lineup of speakers tho...
Their ESL's are great when you're in the sweet spot and everything is dialed in, but these are WAY more forgiving of placement and/or where you sit.
Thank you for your excellent work. Regarding speech intelligibility in movies: Kristi's comment that the F100 was superior in this regard to the B100 was surprising. My wife and I both ask the dreaded "what did she say?" question, and a major incentive to upgrade is to improve intelligibility. For movies, I assume that the same XTC100 center was used. Since almost all movie dialogue is directed to the center channel, it is hard to understand why different L and R speakers would make a meaningful difference. A few possibilities present themselves:
1) Was the center speaker moved or changed in any way?
2) Did you try plugging the B100 ports to improve intelligibility?
3) Was the sub or subs specifically integrated to the B100?
4) Did you experiment with the crossover settings to improve intelligibility?
In our small/medium room, 13x17x8, I suspect the B100 with our two excellent subs would be as good or perhaps better than the F100 and for a third the price. I know that you have addressed the floorstander/bookshelf issue before, and are very familiar with this issue. You may want to expand on this with regard to the B100. Thanks again to you both for your informative and entertaining videos.
They usually test these primarily without a center speaker and may add the center and sub afterwards for add'l test.
Love the look of these, especially the white. And QOTD: the bookshelves because I have a small space and love bookshelves.
Appreciate you answering!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews appreciate all your hard work!
I'm a tower man myself....and I'll take a sub to go as well!!! Great review!
I’d probably go for the towers for the increased bass if the price was right. This series is added to my demo if possible list
$4500 for a pair of F100 towers
Is that a good price for you?
I bought the Jamo C series after your review. Love them
Glad you like them!
I am considering upgrading my 2019 ML Motion 40s. And, no, I'm not going to ask you how my older Motions compare to the new ones. ;-) I'm looking at either the new ML Motion XT B100 or KEF R3 Meta. Up until your review of the KEF R11 Meta, I was team ML. I don't have the space for the R11s so I'm considering the R3s instead. My receiver is a Marantz SR6015. As you know, both the MLs and KEF are 4 ohm speakers. According to the specs of the Marantz it is an 8 ohm receiver (Power Output (8 ohm, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08% 2ch Drive) 110 W). My question is do you think my Marantz will have enough juice to properly drive either the MLs or the KEFs? I would really appreciate your thoughts. I love your channel and value your opinions. Thank you both!!! PS would you consider having a review on the KEF R3s?
Do you guys still use the vintage Pioneer receiver? If so, what speakers do you like with them? I have a Pioneer SX-850 with 65 watts per channel and am thinking about different speakers for it, but when I hear you talk about certain speakers, for example the Sonus Faber Lumina IIs, you mention needing some good power. And again in this review, you talk about needing amplification to drive 4 ohms. Not really sure what that means in terms of how much power is needed.
Phew great design and tested with the Sony Receiver, would be a great set for my livingroom. I know where to dream about tonight.😅
Great review
Thanks for tuning in!
Good morning friends! Glad that you did the work on this one, appreciate it big time.
We have a TON of comparisons in this video so be sure to watch till the end!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I watch the whole thing every time! Thanks for mentioning the discussion though.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews am I silly for thinking of adding these as my 2 rears with RP mk2 (bookshelf and center channel) front soundstage?
@@umrryan You could, but I don't think I would advise it. You'd be better off in terms of tone going with another set of RP speakers instead. These would be overkill maybe for surrounds. MartinLogan makes a Motion aimed at being surrounds. You can see it here: bit.ly/3E1MDt1
@@andrewrobinsonreviews appreciate the response!
Great review. So I already have one of the newer ML Dynamo 800X subs. If I pair that with the bookshelves will I be close to the F100's? Would the 800X make a difference with the F100's? And lastly....Would a C10 work with either? thanks
hi Andrew thank u for ur reviews. Do u have a review for MartinLogan Motion Foundation B2 ? thank you
Hello everyone and thank you for the amazing channel ! I ve got a question that you might help me with ... I have a pair of Focal solo 6be active studio monitor no longer in use in the studio . Could they be used in a regular Hifi / Tv settup ( as active I am not too sure how to cennect them ) or should I sell them in favouir of some Hifi speakers and amp . they do sell for around £1000 second hand so not huge budget .. what would be your recommandation ? ( I quite like lively and precise speakers and can still remember those french ASA monitor speakers Atelier de Synergie Accoustique I heard long time ago .... ) many thanks
Another great review! Thorough enjoyed this one, and also, piqued my interest in these pair.
After I saw a sensitivity rating of 93db, I'm wondering how it would pair up with the Decware SE84UFO2, which I'm currently on the waiting list for (expecting shipment in 2024 at this pace). Would the 4 ohms nominal impedance make this a bad match, in your opinion?
The Motions work, but know that your dynamic headroom is going to be limited. So for lower-level listening (volumes where the max is 70dB or so) they're good but I really believe these speakers like a bit more juice to unlock their full potential.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Appreciate your reply! Will keep this in mind and will continue to look (though I might settle for a pair of Heresy IV or Forte IV as you demonstrated). Thanks again and please continue making great contents!
What songs do you use to compare imaging/instrument separation?
13:06 - Andrew, I'd be curious to hear what you think about speakers. Reference speakers. (They sell soft dome speakers, but their Reference models with an "R" in the model numbers all have AMT Tweeters.)
Great review, thank you !!!!
I'm curious as to how these Martin Logan speakers compare to the GoldenEar BRX, given their similar specs.
Nice review Andrew, as usual, Ty.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
Seeing the frequency range drop at about 100 hz. What’s your opinion on a subwoofer used for above 80hz (what’s usual recommended because of localization)?
My understanding is that midwoofer cabinet is sealed in the F100 vs the ported B100. I'm willing to bet that is why Kristi thought the dialogue intelligibility was better with the towers. I'm still hoping you'll compare the C100 to the B100. Thanks!
That's a great observation!
Also with everything below 280hz getting filtered out of the mids on the F100's if allows the mid to do it's job and not be stressed trying to reproduce bass frequencies.
Other Speakers in that below $2000 range is the Philharmonic BMR Bookshelf speakers and the Triangle Espirit Compete EZ. Would you Pleasssse review these 2 speakers?
You and Kristi are the💣 ❤️u guys🤗
The Triangle Comete EZ Anniversary's are gorgeous in that Rosewood finish! They won't be as linear as these ML's. They will have a tilt towards the top end. Audiophiliac had a review of them.
The F10 is pretty wild as well. Very potent from a bass perspective, and splits the difference nicely between B100 and F100, albeit with the smaller tweeter.
Have you heard it in real life? F10 doesn't have the XL tweeter or the kevlar/nomex mid driver...
@@lawpenner I've listened to F200, F10, and B100 pretty extensively. Certainly a little bit of give and take between B100 and F10, but as an overall package and price/performance ratio, the F10 is outstanding. You can always add a sub, and a B100 with a pair of Dynamo 800X would be very potent.
Hi Andrew, thank you for your amazing reviews. I am looking to get some bookshelf speakers for my home theater system. I have the Marantz SR7013 and a SVS PB3000 sub. I have 9.1 speaker setup and looking to replace my front left, right and center speaker. What would you recommend? I don’t want to spend more than $800 a speaker
Great review! I have two B&W DB4S subs. Would they be a good match with the b100’s? Using a rotel rb1582mkII power amp.
You should get a hold of one of Acoustic Energy's flagships. I've reached out to convince them to sell as singles for people who want a center speaker from the AE500's.
I'd get the F200's with 8" woofers!! Yes, I'm prejudiced against small woofers, as I've not yet met a small woofer that doesn't sound like it's struggling. I've had dual 7's and dual 8's, and neither has satisfied me as much as a single 10, 12, or 15 inch woofer.
The matte white would look so good with walnut sides and gold woofer trim 👌
Martian Logan Motion XT B100 or Monitor Audio’s new Platinum 100 G3 ?? for a NAD M10 V2