Creating BIG GUITAR TONES with MONUMENTS!

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2024

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  • @KohleAudioKult
    @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +27

    Who's not afraid of blending amps, cabs and mics? 😇

    • @miserychannel69
      @miserychannel69 Год назад +1

      ME. I've been doing this forever.. ;)
      Last rig was 2 RK's ;)
      Currently running:
      SWITCHBONE V2
      A - Lehle P-Split
      CLEAN - is always my trusty JC ROLAND 120 H + JC 160
      B - Tube Screamer Ibanez - Lehle P-split
      GAIN - Mesa QUADpre with a decimator into Mesa Coliseum 300 amp + RK with a Mesa 5 band EQ and a decimator
      Dial in the tone on each amp individually, then run them simultaneously with independent volume pedals to blend.
      2 Mesa half back 4x12's
      1 Mesa armor plated OS 4x12
      1 Diezel 2x12 FL
      1 Mesa 2 x 12 recto
      1 Mesa 1x12 Theile 200 w EVM
      Add in a 2notes .. CAB M for a direct signal with some Killer IR blends
      Pure Tonal Bliss
      Cheers, Amigo.

    • @thatguyinaband6341
      @thatguyinaband6341 Год назад

      Gran Hechicero I think does this he is the bomb! you ever heard him!

    • @SQstudios_
      @SQstudios_ Год назад +1

      Ive always blended Marshalls and Mesa.. & by any means u use a TC mimic and reverb, it produces the sound of God

    • @kimseniorb
      @kimseniorb Год назад

      amps yes - cabs no

    • @thatguyinaband6341
      @thatguyinaband6341 Год назад

      @@SQstudios_ What I wanna hear!

  • @adamsteelproducer
    @adamsteelproducer Год назад +30

    Thanks so much for making the video! Putting the course together was a labor of love and I appreciate you 😊

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +3

      🤘🖤🍺

    • @cameronjohnsonaudio
      @cameronjohnsonaudio Год назад

      This was thoroughly enjoyable. Thank you. Purchased the course to get more insight. Lots of cool stuff in there.
      Took it upon myself to simulate the whole signal path “in the box”, using Reaper. Was certainly a brain exercise. 😂😂

  • @r3ngokuking
    @r3ngokuking Год назад +10

    Kinda wild that I've been doing something similar with JCM 800 and a 5150 (plug-ins anyway) and I accidentally got something pretty close to Bolt Thrower's Those Once Loyal tone. Really cool to see the pros doing something that I thought was just me goofing around with weird ideas.

  • @nickm.9474
    @nickm.9474 Год назад +1

    The band I work for always run two amps live. They both use duel recs and the second amp is a Marshall 1987x and a REVV 120. What a sound!

  • @MrNightmarium
    @MrNightmarium Год назад +30

    Having John browne as a guitar player helps a fuck ton too lol...

  • @pauljohn5584
    @pauljohn5584 Год назад +1

    Heck yeah this is how I record guitars! I use a POWERED aby going into 2 amps, 2 cabs and usually ribbon and dynamic on each cab. (Different speakers of course)
    Love this approach do much.

  • @RomanRotten
    @RomanRotten Год назад +1

    Combination of the Vintage 30s and the G12H Anniversary delivers a KILLER result! Which I do with my Marshall g12 vintages in 4:12 cab- 2x2 X pattern

  • @CellarLakeStudios
    @CellarLakeStudios Год назад +16

    Just getting that phase aligned is the biggest takeaway. I like that he uses Reaper. Pretty cool. I'm going to try and see how it visually holds up Logic. To anyone trying to get that 'sound' though..good luck, John Browne is a fucking beast of a player. This is a really cool approach, but It's his playing style and the riffs he writes that shines. Thanks for sharing this guys, especially with those of us who haven't yet drank the Kult Kool-aid. ;) 🤘

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +2

      You’re welcome!
      And of course it’s always helpful to have a great sounding player!

    • @miserychannel69
      @miserychannel69 Год назад

      RE: phase alignment .. this works for me.
      Radial Switchbone V2 + Lehle P split ..

  • @louisburley1597
    @louisburley1597 Год назад +1

    I’ve been using several amps for the past year in plug-in format. It’s really great when done with several IRs too

  • @LorneVignettes
    @LorneVignettes Год назад +3

    I read somewhere that Adam Jones from Tool would send his guitar signal out through 3 different amps & cabs simultaneously to get such huge guitar tones on his last couple records.

    • @pipespeeps5349
      @pipespeeps5349 Год назад +1

      He does that live mainly, in the studio he mixes all types of amps, sunn beta lead, diezel, marshalls, riviera

  • @Mikey__R
    @Mikey__R Год назад

    You could skip the phase alignment issues in a couple of ways.
    You could take a line out from the effects send of each amp, mix them, then return to one of the amps. Both preamps playing through one power amp into one speaker.
    The other option is to record both amps into a pair of Torpedos, blend, then send to a third amp driving a speaker. (Or maybe just use a speaker IR.)

  • @redearthpaul178
    @redearthpaul178 Год назад

    Mike hedges did this when recording the manic at preachers. He used 3 - clean, break up and dirty and combined them during mixing in various proportions

  • @peevee605
    @peevee605 Год назад

    The blend sounds killer and the immediate response from the tube amps is something we need in the plugins too. 🙏

  • @SandblurPAHC
    @SandblurPAHC Год назад +2

    Deadweald Audio! It’s great seeing the Golem. Great Gate!!!
    DAE also has 1 of the best ODs out there-the Duality DX

  • @IndyRockStar
    @IndyRockStar Год назад +1

    I use Reaper for quick scratch tracks and working out ideas, but I use Pro tools for all the heavy lifting on the final recordings. Also, Pro tools makes it's lightyears easier to send the mixing/mastering engineer if need be.

    • @adamsteelproducer
      @adamsteelproducer Год назад

      No engineer I’ve worked with actually wants PT sessions, chances are their routing system or plugins don’t match yours so they usually want wave files. So why work harder when you can use the daw that gets you results fastest?

  • @aheadofmetal
    @aheadofmetal Год назад +1

    I watched the documentary of Behemoth recording 'The Satanist' and they made a comment that you get some comb filtering recording two amps beside each other... but at that point it really doesn't matter because it just makes things sound more like you were actually standing in the room. Ever since that I just record multiple amps and cabs in my little room and I am pleased with the results.

  • @jumpbackgeno
    @jumpbackgeno 11 месяцев назад

    This was fun to watch, thanks. Them guys are Innovative masters

  • @TheTurtleneck64
    @TheTurtleneck64 Год назад +1

    Biamped bass is fantastic, parallel guitar sounds are yummy. More is usually better when it comes to amps

  • @KimboH55
    @KimboH55 Год назад +1

    Status Quo always had their guitars going into a Vox and a Marshall together in boxes off stage and used a third line an amp modeller.

  • @LaitoDan
    @LaitoDan Год назад

    Tue Madsen also used this kind of setup in mixing Meshuggah "The Violent Sleep Of Reason". Sounds great!

  • @marcpeiron_studio
    @marcpeiron_studio Год назад

    One of the sickest guitars tones I've recently heard. I will purchase the course :)

  • @serginhosena
    @serginhosena Год назад +2

    Super Bock shirt! Nice! 🤘🏻

  • @jab8888
    @jab8888 Год назад

    Very good theme.This combination used LINKIN PARK in METEORA FROM 2003 !🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🇪🇦

  • @nickolasgough8529
    @nickolasgough8529 Год назад +1

    Ingenious! 😆🤘 Very refreshing to see real amps, cabs and mics being used in the traditional fashion. I think amp emulation plugins are excellent tools for writing and tracking demos, but when it comes down to the Final Take, plug in to the Real Deal! 🔥🔥 (That's how I do it anyway!) 🤪

  • @Pedro_MVS_Lima
    @Pedro_MVS_Lima Год назад

    Great shirt!

  • @7riXter
    @7riXter Год назад

    0:35 I’ve heard of a band that already did that… was called the Beedles or so

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +1

      Many people have done that.
      It’s just pretty difficult in a modern high gain context without running into severe phase problems.

    • @7riXter
      @7riXter Год назад

      @@KohleAudioKult 😅 would be interested in how to run different ampsims on the same di track at the same time… is it comparable to a real dual amp setup?

  • @ssmetalrulz
    @ssmetalrulz Год назад +1

    Curious about Kohle Audio Kvlt.. do you have a course on the very basics of mixing and mastering on there that can help a bedroom musician like myself who mostly uses plugins and guitar pedals etc. without getting overwhelmed lol?

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +2

      We have a mastering course with plugins only and we have quite a few “Mixing Rituals” where you can download multitracks, mix the song and watch the mixing tutorial of the original mixer.
      And there’s basic courses like “drum bus compression” or “EQing snares”.
      We’re constantly adding more content.

  • @Jimijam22
    @Jimijam22 Год назад

    This was really cool! Keep sharing awesome information like this, please!

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад

      We do this all the time!
      Best way to get more in depth content is to join Kohle Audio Kult! 😜

  • @DJ33
    @DJ33 Год назад +3

    Very cool video. Golem #deadwealdaudio and Dirty Tree #peperspedals so cool to see them used with a great band.

  • @edwardforgione7660
    @edwardforgione7660 Год назад

    I love videos about Tone and especially when it involves john browne, Great Video well done!!!

  • @PraiseTheSaw
    @PraiseTheSaw Год назад

    Super Bock auf deine Videos. As much as I love a gnarly chainsaw, the dirty tree is hands down the best boost out there. Love to see it.

  • @dropentier377
    @dropentier377 Год назад

    Amazing video ! Thanks you so much.

  • @atticshadows383
    @atticshadows383 Год назад

    That t-shirt is awesome. 🍺

  • @billyhughes9776
    @billyhughes9776 Год назад

    "Tight enough for a submitting a demo,....if not for a record." -- lol,...I mean,...how much tighter can you get? Love this method - some work to set up but the results. The cheapo Behringer mixer in the signal path -- very interesting.

  • @carlosalmeida7174
    @carlosalmeida7174 Год назад

    Oh man, beautiful shirt you have there!!🤘💀🤘 Prost🍻

  • @Shred_Rocket
    @Shred_Rocket Год назад +5

    An observation for a while now is that John found a gold mine in Adam and utilizes every pan and stream and gets the best out of Adam! Respect to Adam!

  • @voiceovervandeen
    @voiceovervandeen Год назад

    Apart from the principle of "get things right on the way in, rather than fixing it in post" - What differences are there (if any) between moving the mic position to achieve phase alignment V's slipping the track by a few milliseconds?

  • @jasonhoudyschell666
    @jasonhoudyschell666 Год назад

    You guys are the best!

  • @guvenckaplan
    @guvenckaplan Год назад

    Btw, love your T-Shirt, Adam!

  • @PooNinja
    @PooNinja Год назад

    10:20 time alignment awesomeness

  • @ayeapprove
    @ayeapprove Год назад +1

    Jon Browne doesn't even need real amps, he made Pod XT sound extremely good.

  • @Rummy73
    @Rummy73 Год назад

    Whoa, check that great distance micing.

  • @horstplautzbirne3300
    @horstplautzbirne3300 Год назад

    why does it make sense getting phase right at the beginning? isnt it the same result to do it later in your daw?

  • @philtaylor7040
    @philtaylor7040 Год назад

    I have a mesa oversized cab from 2003. I have 2 of the v30s from that cab I kept. I have 2 dv77s 2 k100s. What should I load this cab with and what position top and bottom of cab should I put them in. I play mainly metal music. 7 string and 6 string drop tuned. Thanks. Your channel is awesome

  • @CarlosKTCosta
    @CarlosKTCosta Год назад

    DUUUUUDE!!! Portuguese Beer shirt! Awesome

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +1

      Just spent a week filming a mixing course in a studio in Porto!

    • @CarlosKTCosta
      @CarlosKTCosta Год назад

      @@KohleAudioKult makes sense, Super Bock is the Porto beer, if you were in Lisbon it would be Sagres 😂
      Can’t wait to see what came out of that week.

  • @CrushingAxes
    @CrushingAxes Год назад

    Super Bock is very nice! Sabor autêntico! Man Marshall + Boogie is my favourite combination! Sometimes L + R mesa and just a track in the center with less disto using a Marshall!

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +4

      I just spent a super(bock) week in Porto! 🤪

    • @ProjectVastness
      @ProjectVastness Год назад

      ​@@KohleAudioKult and you spent it very well. Super Bock + Metal. Best combo 😁

  • @dubiousdaydream1695
    @dubiousdaydream1695 Год назад

    As I understood from Kohle, 2 distorted guitar amps from the same di usually make a phasy mess. Anyone knows if there was anything else needed to prevent this, besides making sure the mics are the same distance?

  • @TonyPepers
    @TonyPepers Год назад +1

    Dirty Tree FTW 😺

  • @MeyerzumMischen
    @MeyerzumMischen Год назад

    Can't I just put a delay on one track to get proper phase allignement? That's what I did in the past when working with multiple mics. That way I can concentrate on getting the sound I want from a microphone first without thinking about phase and without having to go back and forth between control room and recording room. Or is there a drawback of that compared to adjusting the distance of the mic to the speaker like he did?

    • @adamsteelproducer
      @adamsteelproducer Год назад +1

      You can’t do that in analog. There’s more to it that you don’t see in this video but getting it right at the source is always the best way

    • @MeyerzumMischen
      @MeyerzumMischen Год назад

      @@adamsteelproducer Okay, I didn't think about the summing you're doing with the Behringer mixer before the compression. In that case, it makes complete sense to me because you can't change the microphones' relation to one another anymore after that. Do you do the summing because of the compressor or is there another reason?
      If there wasn't an analogue compressor in the signal chain and you do the summing in the DAW, one could probably delay it there, right? I'm not advocating against setting up your microphones properly and then "fixing it in post". I'm just wondering about the tradeoff between adjusting the distance of the mic for the correlation's sake and getting the sound out of a microphone that you have in mind (which might need a different distance to the speaker than you'd need for a better phase correlation). I don't want to question your method but rather question the way I've been doing it. 🙃

  • @progrocker84
    @progrocker84 Год назад

    Was there any double tracking done here? If no, was the Mimiq pedal used?

    • @adamsteelproducer
      @adamsteelproducer Год назад +2

      Double tracking yes. But all the mics were folded down into a single “take”

    • @progrocker84
      @progrocker84 Год назад

      @@adamsteelproducer thanks for your response. Any reason why you didn't use the Mimiq pedal before or after the split to save time with double tracking? Kohler had a great video which suggests Mimiq may be the way to go from now on.

  • @drmoshie
    @drmoshie Год назад

    Browne you beast!

  • @the_awful_guitar_player6666
    @the_awful_guitar_player6666 Год назад

    Make me feel like when meshuggah recorded the violent sleep of reason ahahah good stuff !

  • @robloyst4514
    @robloyst4514 Год назад

    I’d like to see you do a video on recording real amps at low volumes. Or ISO cabs! (Which I’m sure is gonna sound like crap too lol)

  • @trulyintense6613
    @trulyintense6613 Год назад

    Nice!!!!!!

  • @rnhtube
    @rnhtube Год назад +3

    I didn't know Matt Hardy was so good at guitar

  • @bb-r7t
    @bb-r7t Год назад

    he described 4 mics, on 2 amps, i assume for each take, but his overdub was recording onto 6 tracks. so what was getting recorded?

    • @adamsteelproducer
      @adamsteelproducer Год назад +1

      The overdubs were using a mic splitter so we could get each channel separately for educational purposes, so we could show the sound of each separate mic. When we were recording the single, we didn’t do that and had nothing except a “mixed” track and a DI per side

    • @RenanBEreanSound
      @RenanBEreanSound Год назад

      @@adamsteelproducer Hi Adam. After you correct the phases and everything is ready, do you set all 4 mics to center to make all mono in the behringer? thank you so much

    • @adamsteelproducer
      @adamsteelproducer Год назад

      @@RenanBEreanSoundyes they’re all mono on the mixer, although if I wanted to I could pan them left and right to separate the two amps out- depends what you want your final result to be

    • @RenanBEreanSound
      @RenanBEreanSound Год назад

      @@adamsteelproducerThanks Adam! Amazing work you guys do

  • @AndriiHryhoriev
    @AndriiHryhoriev Год назад

    It a great idea to have a good beer and listen to metal

  • @nuestudi524
    @nuestudi524 Год назад

    I've got lost when he goes out from the beringer mixer to the compressors and into reaper because later on, we can see that he is recording 5 tracks (DI+4mics). Anyone can clarify?

    • @adamsteelproducer
      @adamsteelproducer Год назад

      There’s a lot of the course not in this video. The last part uses mic splitters so you can compare with files that are included in the course.

    • @adamsteelproducer
      @adamsteelproducer Год назад

      And it’s 6 channels at the end. 4 mics, DI, blended tone

  • @andresilvasophisma
    @andresilvasophisma Год назад +2

    Super Bock?
    I see you've been to Portugal.

  • @FelipeGruberTV
    @FelipeGruberTV Год назад

    "The most sexy and evil recording, mixing and mastering academy" Specially sexy... hahaha you're totally right, brotha! Cheers!

  • @shapeshvtr
    @shapeshvtr Год назад

    i used this method for a long time, but with vst 😂

  • @w1zard0f0h
    @w1zard0f0h Год назад

    I think when guitarists say they don't use compressors they mean on the pedal boeard. Amost all guitars are compressed when mixing. At least they should.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +4

      I’m actually one of the guys that never compress guitars in post! 🤩

    • @HenritheHorse
      @HenritheHorse Год назад +1

      Enough volume and fuzz is my compression!

    • @w1zard0f0h
      @w1zard0f0h Год назад

      @@KohleAudioKult You don't compress the final mix? If i'm doing a less distorted guitar I'll add a bus compressor to the guitars. I will use less if it's a distorted guitar. But I always add a compressor to the entire song onced mixed. I guess whatever works and your music sounds great as is so I guess that works for you.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +1

      I was talking about compressing guitars!

    • @w1zard0f0h
      @w1zard0f0h Год назад

      @@HenritheHorse Hey if it works do it I always say. haaa

  • @theomatthaios
    @theomatthaios Год назад

    I see Monuments I click "like" in trust 😂

  • @moustachio334
    @moustachio334 11 месяцев назад

    Alice in Chains blended guitar amps on Dirt. Really cool idea

  • @nunogui
    @nunogui Год назад +1

    Super Bock rules..

  • @nicholastotoro7721
    @nicholastotoro7721 Год назад +38

    A band that recorded using real amps... it feels weird to call that the outlier... 🤣😊

    • @louderthangod
      @louderthangod Год назад +12

      It’s so crazy that people have stopped doing this. When you’re playing the electric guitar you’re playing the amp just as much. Besides the tone of an amp, they’re also respond differently to your picking dynamics, how heavily you mute a string with your palm, how the strings sustain and ring out together. You lose all of that when re-amping.

    • @dirtyandnasty9011
      @dirtyandnasty9011 Год назад +7

      @@louderthangod And playing with feedback, which also makes the performance so much more "alive" and "rock n roll". I can't remember so many examples in post 2000 era except Tom Warrior Gabriel Fisher.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +13

      I also still believe that playing the actual, final tone helps! But that might be just me.

    • @zeenuf00
      @zeenuf00 Год назад +6

      Right? Considering most 'metal' these days sounds like EDM.

    • @Mikey__R
      @Mikey__R Год назад +1

      You can record your DI at different points in the signal chain. Most people put the DI first, before even the boost pedal, but you could even put it in the amps effects loop. You'll capture a lot of the interaction between the guitar and the amp, whilst giving yourself a bit of an insurance policy against a bad cab tone or dodgy mic placement.
      If you've got a Torpedo, you can also record the output of the power amp as well.

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 Год назад +1

    Since when did “producers and guitar players not being good enough to get the sound right” become a thing that we just accepted? I 100% get beginners not being able to get it right so they send a di to the mix engineer to unfuck their tone. That’s fair. But this video speaks to a much larger group of people than that. Where they want the mix engineer to make production decisions.
    It is beyond frustrating to deal with as a mix engineer.

    • @tobins6800
      @tobins6800 Год назад

      As part of the process. If all 3 are separate, player, producer, engineer, making sure the recorded tone is what the producer will accept, and what the player has in their head. As a player, it is really difficult coming to terms with the difference between in the room tone, recording tone, and live tone. As an engineer, capturing that special sound is difficult enough, but, making the correct adjustments for frequency responses. Having the mixer as part of the recording process makes things easier as far as getting it right at the source.

  • @LouisLinggandtheBombs
    @LouisLinggandtheBombs Год назад

    I have DI boxes (of course!) but in 20 years of recording bands in my parisian studio I think that I've almost never used them! My god! If a band is paying to come to a studio, just make it sound fantastic! Why mess around? Just record the best amp in the best way possible. Honestly, it takes a long time to dial in a great sound using VSTs and it never excites the musicians and drives them wild so why bother?

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Год назад +1

      DI boxes can be useful even when you track with real amps. Either as a backup or as a blend. Either way, it’s smart to record a DI track!

    • @LouisLinggandtheBombs
      @LouisLinggandtheBombs Год назад

      @@KohleAudioKult Good advice! Although it's absolutely incredible how damn rarely the DI tracks ever get used for anything. The DI tracks can help with guitar editing just as a visual aid because the transients stick out clearer. Apart from that, they just collect dust in the sessions!

  • @miked5487
    @miked5487 Год назад

    Adam needed a dyna mount for this job

  • @parmeshgurung
    @parmeshgurung Год назад

    This guy taught me reaper 😅😅

  • @DavidMadeira29
    @DavidMadeira29 Год назад

    Especially for today...

  • @captainconvulsion
    @captainconvulsion 7 месяцев назад

    Im ao tired of amp plugins 😔

  • @RyRyTheBassGuy
    @RyRyTheBassGuy Год назад

    It's too bad the guitars ended up being pretty muddy in the mix.

  • @vanman118
    @vanman118 Год назад

    Instructions unclear lost my tone in the dryer.

  • @ensignofindustry1033
    @ensignofindustry1033 3 месяца назад

    Where do engineers get the money for this stuff? I thought the music industry dried up…

  • @vincent_vega4046
    @vincent_vega4046 6 месяцев назад

    It's all nice and dandy, but the engineer has listed a gear worth of close to like half a million dollars. Nobody has that kind of stuff and money laying around at home. Plus most of these are quite niche things, which are hard to come by. Even, if you were a millionaire, obtaining stuff like this would be a challenge.
    So it is more for educational and trivia purposes. You are not going to recreate something like this at home for sure.
    The reason why I love plugins is that they are very cheap compared to conventional gear. I love amps, cabinets and all the actual hardware and owned many of those.
    But even just a decent, mid level amp is around a thousand EUR/USD and that is not hi-end category at all. While a good plugin is 10 times less and it still sounds good enough.

  • @mattz1686
    @mattz1686 11 месяцев назад

    lol the behringer mixer. $12000 of equipment to get the best possible tone…..into an $80 mixer.

  • @zerstaerker
    @zerstaerker Год назад

    Dammit! Is it really that hard to reproduce it in the digital domain? It sounds kinda superior to actual double tracking to my ears, at least for the role of a main rhythm guitar track. Actual double tracking still can play a role for accents and stuff. Hell, I want to do this.

  • @zizizmer
    @zizizmer Год назад

    3:42 Then amp 1 has the dagadaga daga da dagadada thing. And amp 2 has the ROH RWOH RWOH RWOH - Couldn't have said it better myself 🤌

  • @zeenuf00
    @zeenuf00 Год назад

    Oh my God, they ACTUALLY got their sounds going in? No freakin' way.
    😅😅😅😅😅