The Future of British Politics: In Conversation with Simon Heffer

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    In this new interview as a part of the In Conversation events, Tom Clougherty, Executive Director of the Institute of Economic Affairs, sits down with Simon Heffer, the renowned historian, journalist, and political commentator. Heffer, a prominent conservative voice, shares his incisive perspectives on British politics, economics, and society.
    Heffer delves into the struggles of the contemporary Conservative Party, offering a scathing critique of recent leadership and the party's ongoing civil war over Europe. He also explores the challenges facing the country, including an ageing population, pressures on the welfare state, and the need for economic reform and deregulation to spur growth.
    Heffer's insights span a wide range of topics, from the failures of corporatism and state overreach to the importance of incentivising hard work and self-reliance. He advocates for a renewed debate on the role of the state, calling for a transition from a welfare state to a "welfare society" rooted in Victorian values of self-help and mutual aid. This thought-provoking discussion is a must-watch for anyone interested in the future of British politics and economics.
    00:05:32 - The state of the Conservative Party
    00:10:43 - Brexit and the Conservative civil war
    00:33:07 - The role of the civil service and "the Blob"
    00:35:58 - Britain's decline from great power status
    00:44:22 - The need for economic deregulation and incentives
    00:50:09 - Reforming the welfare state and transitioning to a "welfare society"
    00:50:34 - Fixing the public sector pension system
    00:59:42 - Qualities needed in politicians/the next Conservative leader
    01:04:57 - Concerns about the future U.S. presidential election
    01:07:54 - Anecdotes about interacting with political figures
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Комментарии • 360

  • @keithsewell8389
    @keithsewell8389 4 месяца назад +39

    Rent levels render many British people unable to adequately provide for themselves.

    • @anthonyferris8912
      @anthonyferris8912 4 месяца назад +4

      Same in US, Canada, Australia and many countries across the EU.

    • @chris-eq3sx
      @chris-eq3sx 4 месяца назад +11

      And their taxes being used for just about anything else apart from looking after the people of the country while the country falls apart

    • @jdg9999
      @jdg9999 3 месяца назад +5

      Yep, but the problem is, neither the mainstream left or right know what to do about it.

    • @brightonduder
      @brightonduder 3 месяца назад

      The cause is inflation caused by government intervention
      Savvy people borrow money and buy homes
      Homes keep their value and money doesn’t - so after 20 yrs the mortgage value has disappeared
      Don’t blame smart people for navigating government incompetence

    • @futures2247
      @futures2247 3 месяца назад

      hurting people is just another opportunity for neoliberals but it never hurts the rich

  • @bbbf09
    @bbbf09 3 месяца назад +5

    Just looking at the physical state of Heffer is somewhat symbolic of Britains decline and of his precious brexit. (Moaning about the working classes as 'slothful' is priceless in that regard)
    You don't even to think too much about his odious views and ill thought out shambolic 'logic' to wonder at what makes people sit there and listen to it. I have no idea why is deemed to be some sort of respected journo or thinker.
    By the way, 'Enoch Powell is the greatest man ever' . Says everything about Heffers inclinations. Powell was criticised back in the 60s by even conservative papers and Edward Heath was so appalled he dismissed him. If you are getting called 'racist' by Conservatives in 1960s - when the Black & White Minstrel show was considered accpetable TV the you can be sure you are racist. Powell was - and by elevating him to the status of 'greatest'
    can only suggest he is also.
    He's right on Johnson. Thats about it. Otherwise a waste of space.

  • @laralsofia
    @laralsofia 4 месяца назад +31

    I enjoyed this interview. A testimonial of the failure of neoliberalism

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn 3 месяца назад +2

      I don’t think you were listening. His argument was that left wing social and economic policy had failed

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 3 месяца назад

      I got more out of it as a pointed failure of Heffers views and brexit

    • @drew699
      @drew699 3 месяца назад +1

      UK, by most metrics has got progressively more socialist over the past 25yrs ie. State spending as % GDP has grown from 34 to 44%. We see the results of a bigger state, all around us now from NHS to economically inactivity.

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 3 месяца назад

      @@drew699 When the economy fails - due a right wing non socilaist governement of the last 14 years and its right wing antics (brexit anyone?) then state spending is the only answer to keep eveyrthing from failing apart to the point of societal collapse and civil war. The collapse of the banks and financial system was pure anti-socialist 'adventure' - allowed by a purely ultra capitalist failure to control the banks. You could have let them fail - and if had been only the ordinary people that were hurt they woudl have . But it also would mean the rich elite capitalists would have lost their money as well. Thats not allowed!----- so the banks got saved by £1 TRILLION of tax payers money. It looked like a massive socialist action but in fact was entirely brutally capitalist
      In short --it is the non socilaists right wingers that screw things up and the only options that are available appear socialist to the uninformed but are not.
      The UK in the 1990s was far more socialist in practice and by nature than it is now (e.g. NHS spending was highest ever in those times) - and the economy was stronger for it.

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn 3 месяца назад

      @@bbbf09 The financial crisis was caused by State regulation that mandated banks pursue sub prime mortgages for 'societal reasons', kept interest rates artificially low (overruling the market) and implemented a lot of other regulation that distorted the effective functioning of the market. Not intervening when the system went broke would of meant the total collapse of the economy, that would of hit the poor more than the rich.

  • @bobstephenson8747
    @bobstephenson8747 3 месяца назад +24

    As an ‘average’ salaried worker in my late 50’s, with two teenage kids aspiring to go to uni, mortgage etc I simply don’t have the capacity to make provision to save for care I may potentially need in my dotage. I don’t have a lavish lifestyle, drive a knackered old car, rarely take holidays, pay as much as I can into my pension etc there’s always some month left at the end of the money.
    Until we start taxing the super rich and disincentivise the squirrelling away of billions into off- shore bank accounts we will never make any progress!

    • @uwanttono4012
      @uwanttono4012 3 месяца назад +4

      Very well said sir!!

    • @mtrhodesy
      @mtrhodesy 3 месяца назад

      Did you choose to work for others of your own free will, or did you take a risk and start a business? What steps did you take to learn skills that translate in you being able to profit directly? Why not tax the risk adverse, or people who sacrifice their shot at wealth over security?
      I’ve spent years learning skills that profit me directly, I’ve then used these profits, bet on myself, and risked losing everything if I got my pricing wrong. This isn’t a dig at you but at that mindset. You’ve just described all the things that mean your decisions would never bring the wealth you wanted.
      That said I’m in agreement about some having billions and hoarding it away in a tax haven etc. How much is enough if you’ve already got a billion, you could live a lavish life and give anything else to improving your community and really do some good. A social capitalist if you will.

  • @evolassunglasses4673
    @evolassunglasses4673 4 месяца назад +32

    Democracy is not the public just voting but more important getting what they want.
    Liberal Democracy is just rule by international finance and the Merchant class now.

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn 4 месяца назад

      That’s called the tyranny of the majority. Or mob rule

    • @greyvoice7949
      @greyvoice7949 4 месяца назад

      Democracy does not exist...

    • @stevefrith9924
      @stevefrith9924 3 месяца назад

      quite so, as delivered by mrs Thatcher. Isn't that the point?

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn 3 месяца назад +2

      You do not get what you want in a democracy, you get what the majority want. Not the same thing, dear.

    • @redwine2664
      @redwine2664 3 месяца назад

      @@stevefrith9924 and your alternative is what? Revolution!

  • @locke230
    @locke230 4 месяца назад +32

    He's right about Johnson's cabinet but it's the same old freedom for those who have money and poverty and vulnerability for those who don't .

    • @jnielson1121
      @jnielson1121 3 месяца назад

      Exactly the way the neoliberal propaganda machine of the IEA intends it to be. Why don't they tell us who funds them?

  • @greyvoice7949
    @greyvoice7949 4 месяца назад +31

    You can sum up the politics of the UK easily:- Democracy does not exist! There you go!

  • @sluglife9785
    @sluglife9785 4 месяца назад +16

    Had to sell his Mother's house, because her care cost over £100,000 a year... I hope you all heard that number. He is living in a parallel dimension to the vast, vast majority of the country, and has no clue. This is such a warped perspective.

    • @shaunmac6851
      @shaunmac6851 4 месяца назад +8

      It was when he pointed out that we all know people who've inherited vast amounts of wealth that's corrupted them..... er, do we??

    • @sluglife9785
      @sluglife9785 4 месяца назад +4

      @@shaunmac6851 Indeed. I don't want to appear to be attacking the man because that inevitably takes us nowhere good, but a saner politics requires a more balanced perspective where we try to understand and account for each other. It's a complicated task, which is why simplifying ideologies like Neoliberalism never work.

  • @phillpotts9047
    @phillpotts9047 4 месяца назад +6

    Wow... This is what's missing out of politics today. Will NEVER EVER beat common sense. Bravo 👏👏👏👏

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 3 месяца назад +1

      Ah the common sense myth, anybody with an advanced understanding of macroeconomics knows that the "common sense" of running a corner shop does not work at the macro scale. Just like in physics where everyday life can be explained by Newton but when you want to talk about astronomy you need Einstein.

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 3 месяца назад

      Common sense yesterday is the nonsense of later years - e.g. the transatlantic slave trade. Although maybe you still believe that was good old 'common sense' and the woke crowd went mad to believe otherwise. I'll hazard a guess Mt. Heffer 'Enoch Powell is the greatest' probably does believe that.
      Anyway - there is no absolute timeless benchmark of 'common sense'

  • @mikedunn8104
    @mikedunn8104 3 месяца назад +13

    Thatcher was a disaster! The policy of privatisation has had catastrophic consequences for every citizen of the U.K. Hayek and Friedman have been thoroughly debunked.

    • @markferguson7563
      @markferguson7563 3 месяца назад

      (*** A.S. Yes, indeed, Mike, privatisation - which, effectively, is part and parcel of the globalisation bandwagon - has been a disaster. I suggest you get a copy of Ernst Schumacher's, 'Small is Beautiful: Economics as if People Really Matter', which was published in 1972, predicted the looming madness of globalisation. ***)
      *************************************
      Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris.
      I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP.
      The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also.
      However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations.
      Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.

  • @lonewanderer3456
    @lonewanderer3456 4 месяца назад +20

    Simon Heffer, Douglas Murray and Dr David Starkey should have been key advisors for the Govt.

    • @xtc2v
      @xtc2v 4 месяца назад

      Douglas Murray supports the genocide in Gaza

    • @jumblestiltskin1365
      @jumblestiltskin1365 4 месяца назад

      Well said, considering the utter mess they've made in 14 years, even the teletubbies might have provided them with better, more coherent advice.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 4 месяца назад +3

      All Classical Liberals with no solutions.

    • @richardwhite1120
      @richardwhite1120 3 месяца назад

      Should be

    • @rosendo3523
      @rosendo3523 3 месяца назад

      Three cheeks of the same arse. You must be joking....

  • @anthonyferris8912
    @anthonyferris8912 4 месяца назад +5

    Can't imagine many capable people who've had proper jobs, would ever want to be an MP.

  • @uwanttono4012
    @uwanttono4012 3 месяца назад +2

    As a progressive liberal (if that is not oxymoronic), this was a wonderful conversation with a dour though earnest conservative whose views represent those elite who were born with a golden foot in their mouth (or had privileged access to economic opportunities) and have never experienced the vicissitudes of life. Nonetheless, I enjoyed listening to his views on how Britain has evolved over the last forty or fifty years!

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 3 месяца назад +1

      As another progressive liberal myself - I did not enjoy hearing about his priveleged life - nor of description of racist Enoch Powell as 'the greatest of men'. Feel sick after listening to him and need a shower.

    • @uwanttono4012
      @uwanttono4012 3 месяца назад

      @@bbbf09 I understand where you are coming from!

  • @paulfr6768
    @paulfr6768 3 месяца назад +1

    Truly bizarre to hear a Brexit supporting admirer of Powell and Thatcher say 'I believe in a compassionate society.'

  • @zeddeka
    @zeddeka 3 месяца назад +2

    Simon Heffer was always a very strange eccentric, and that has only increased with time. He belongs on the lunatic fringe of a past era.

  • @nigelhard1519
    @nigelhard1519 4 месяца назад +30

    Talk about serious dinners

    • @nigelhard1519
      @nigelhard1519 3 месяца назад +3

      Pretty impressive analysis.

    • @bradleyholland4881
      @bradleyholland4881 3 месяца назад +1

      Keeps several local carveries going singlehanded.

  • @drc4563
    @drc4563 3 месяца назад

    Wise guy. Speaks his mind. Like this.

  • @OhAwe
    @OhAwe 2 месяца назад +1

    This is the guy that claimed Corbyn was going to "reopen Auschwitz".

  • @rossscott7260
    @rossscott7260 3 месяца назад +2

    People living paycheck to paycheck can't take risks if the price of failure is starvation. The reason why the rich can succeed is that they can fail again and again.

  • @andylewis7360
    @andylewis7360 4 месяца назад +12

    What Heffer seems oblivious of is not Britain’s lack of work ethic; it’s what’s BEHIND work ethic! There needs to be INCENTIVE to work hard! What incentive IS THERE?!? Young men can’t hope to find a loyal wife or buy a house! They’ll be lucky to have one child, let alone 2.1 - The replacement rate!

    • @markferguson7563
      @markferguson7563 3 месяца назад

      Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris.
      I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP.
      The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also.
      However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations.
      Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 3 месяца назад

      Russian troll

  • @larslarsen5414
    @larslarsen5414 3 месяца назад +5

    Like so many highly educated Brits this guy is very likeable and very smart. Only problem is that his sort rarely have any political viable solution to anything:
    "Deregulate" :-) - That word is pretty empty by now
    "culture war" - this is an empty attack on.... well, someone else....

  • @guydreamr
    @guydreamr 3 месяца назад +4

    Well, I for one am shocked - shocked! - that the party taking such a turn toward unbridled self-interest would itself be riven by politicians out for...their own self-interests.

  • @themajesticmagnificent386
    @themajesticmagnificent386 3 месяца назад +2

    The U.K is at the mercy of landlords..The majority of the economy is for the benefit of estate agents..Small industries here are again forgotten..The U.K needs to produce and grow as producers of a variety of products and services..Part of the problem is we have forgot or choose to think we’re not good enough or others can and we can’t..This thinking must change..But can only change with new thinking from the top down and incentives in tax ..

  • @matthewbell4200
    @matthewbell4200 3 месяца назад

    This is superb and one of the best political discussions I’ve come across

  • @philippewinston2740
    @philippewinston2740 3 месяца назад +2

    How heavy is Mr Heffer ?

  • @epluribusu9430
    @epluribusu9430 4 месяца назад +8

    "Don't mention the Brexit !!" - Basil Fawlty. Pontificates on everything but not 40 seconds on the mega disaster he foisted on his countrymen.

  • @TheGatesOfFire
    @TheGatesOfFire 3 месяца назад +11

    Thatcher was a complete disaster. Squander north sea oil and gas, and gave away all national treasures.

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 3 месяца назад

      Thatcher sold off the nation's family silver and gave the money to the City of London.

    • @hodgebodge
      @hodgebodge 3 месяца назад

      It wasn't squandered. It was used to facilitate some of the fastest sustained real terms growth we've seen in the postwar era, certainly since 73 and not seen since.

    • @TheGatesOfFire
      @TheGatesOfFire 3 месяца назад

      @@hodgebodge it was squandered to buy the next election.

    • @hodgebodge
      @hodgebodge 3 месяца назад

      @@TheGatesOfFire it allowed for well over a decade of low taxes and greater wealth for individual citizens.
      What would you rather the money was used for? Please don't say sovereign wealth fund

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 3 месяца назад

      @@hodgebodge Rapid unsustainable growth for some. The capital wealth of the nation was bought up by foreign interests and now we are seeing the consequences.

  • @christopherfisher8748
    @christopherfisher8748 3 месяца назад

    Massively interesting talk and I totally agree with most of his comments

  • @modestproposal9114
    @modestproposal9114 3 месяца назад +1

    It's rich the IEA complaining about the state of affairs crafted in their own image

  • @bradleyholland4881
    @bradleyholland4881 3 месяца назад +4

    Was it gut instinct that swung Heffer from left to right on the political spectrum?

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 3 месяца назад +2

      He's certainly got the gut for it.

  • @paulcookies
    @paulcookies 3 месяца назад +1

    It's not all about Brexit, the UK has been going downhill since Thatcher's time.

  • @johnvale295
    @johnvale295 4 месяца назад +14

    When the Prime Minister and government ministers are hamstrung by obstructive civil servants and, in some cases, the High Court, it is easy to see why few of the issues in the UK are ever solved. The worst part of this is that no political party seems to have an effective strategy to remove these obstacles.

    • @greyvoice7949
      @greyvoice7949 4 месяца назад

      No such thing as democracy... Just the illusion of it!

    • @pedalinpete
      @pedalinpete 4 месяца назад +2

      So you think that they should be above the law?

    • @gordondavies7773
      @gordondavies7773 4 месяца назад +3

      UK should be thankful for the dedication and real patriotism of the civil and public servants over the last 14 years of Tory induced crisis.

    • @johnvale295
      @johnvale295 4 месяца назад +1

      @@pedalinpete When a law is not fit for purpose, yes.

    • @johnvale295
      @johnvale295 4 месяца назад +8

      @@gordondavies7773 I disagree. Senior civil servants have frustrated the progress of Prime Ministers and parliamentarians who were elected to pursue certain mandates, such as Brexit, and have provided obstacles to any meaningful change. For example, an attempt to stop illegal migrants from making the dangerous Channel crossing in small boats, through a strategy of flying them to Rwanda if they attempt to enter the country illegally, has been blocked at every turn. In the meantime, more attempt the crossing and drown. What's the point in voting for any political party if they cannot deliver on their promises due to red tape?

  • @m.bowyer5045
    @m.bowyer5045 3 месяца назад +1

    A serious dinner?...i can see heffer certainly likes those🤣

  • @simonbamford8441
    @simonbamford8441 3 месяца назад +3

    IEA - shady, Heffer - dodgy! !

  • @peterwatson3944
    @peterwatson3944 3 месяца назад +1

    Keep the state out of our pockets

  • @anomadhunter
    @anomadhunter 3 месяца назад +6

    This poor chap looks like he’s going to explode.

  • @charlesvanderhoog7056
    @charlesvanderhoog7056 3 месяца назад +1

    At 10:07 we hear another loony who thinks that Britain is as important and as strong as the EU. It is this kind of conviction (of still living in 1880) that gave us Brexit.

  • @RogueWJL
    @RogueWJL 4 месяца назад +2

    Enthralling and enlightening.
    Hearing those thoughts, views and reflections in the current political and social climate, was akin to being in the desert and finding an oasis

  • @des_bloom
    @des_bloom 3 месяца назад +17

    The Great British brain-drain, we are loosing all the bright minds & becoming a state of grifters.. In a heartbeat I would migrate to Europe, but that opportunity sailed with Brexit

    • @richardwhite1120
      @richardwhite1120 3 месяца назад +2

      Losing

    • @hannahb950
      @hannahb950 3 месяца назад

      Terrible - EU takes many non-EU citizens yet, as you say, UK citizens cannot be included and can rarely get the ability to work in the EU. IMO if you want to work in the EU, have a skill the EU needs esp engineering and physical healthcare (higher, medium and lower level) - and don't even attempt with humanities, media, social sciences,
      arts etc as Europe is SO BRILLIANT in those areas... ie experienced people who can mend/fix things properly are far far far less common.

    • @dixiedean1955
      @dixiedean1955 3 месяца назад

      You can still settle in some EU countries if retired or are a digital nomad

    • @alexiosi2646
      @alexiosi2646 3 месяца назад

      Because the EU member states are doing sooooooo well aren't they... Especially now the US has hobbled the Euro by crippling Germany's economy.

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 3 месяца назад

      ...and we are left with the Heffers of the world. Would that he would take a hike elsewhere.

  • @MikeNewland
    @MikeNewland 3 месяца назад +1

    Heffer must have a death wish with that stomach. Sorry because his biog of Powell was very good.

  • @adriancurtin6012
    @adriancurtin6012 3 месяца назад

    Very informative!

  • @masoodahmed2041
    @masoodahmed2041 3 месяца назад +1

    Brexit could have worked but BJ made a complete mess of it, I voted remain as I was hypnotised by economic orthodoxy over radical ideas.

  • @akpanekpo6025
    @akpanekpo6025 3 месяца назад +2

    This is revisionism at its most disingenuous, and very typical of a hard-right Tory and Brexiteer. First, he fails to acknowledge any connection between the man-made tragedy we experience today (as exemplified by human excrement in our waters) and 40-plus years of Thatcherism, in contrast with Germany which managed to become Europe's economic powerhouse while essentially remaining a socialist economy - complete with trades union bosses in corporate boardrooms until it committed economic suicide by rejecting cheap Russian gas - but I digress).
    He also fails to acknowledge that it was his beloved Brexit (itself a pet Thatcherite project) that produced the literal kakistocracy that he disparages.
    Some day, Thatcherism was going to fulfil its mission, and it has succeeded spectacularly. I just wish its proponents (which include New Labour - not least because it was infamously Thatcher's "greatest achievement") would have the decency to acknowledge the error of their ways.

  • @pauleast2905
    @pauleast2905 3 месяца назад +1

    EU and the decline of Germany and other associated countries.

  • @maryfountain4202
    @maryfountain4202 4 месяца назад +7

    I haven't listened to so much common sense for a long time, and agree with everything including the quality of cabinets; saying a lot other than the seriousness of what they're doing.

  • @chrismaxwell1610
    @chrismaxwell1610 3 месяца назад +3

    What a load of right-wing nonsense, more if we would just be more right-wing from the people who have got everything they wanted for 15 years.

  • @adriancurtin6012
    @adriancurtin6012 3 месяца назад +7

    Brexit . The self inflicted wounds are the most deepest and most debilitating.We are still a generation away from another vote but maybe with a change of government at least we will start tallking to Europe again.If M.T .wanted us to leave she had 11 years to do it Brexiters ,the enemy is in Moscow not Brussels! !

    • @turbolevo8703
      @turbolevo8703 3 месяца назад +2

      Wrong.
      And Putin isn’t Hitler either.

  • @edwardmclaughlin7935
    @edwardmclaughlin7935 4 месяца назад +6

    How can such an established and respected political observer be so out of touch with what is actually taking place on the political scene?

  • @jnielson1121
    @jnielson1121 3 месяца назад +2

    Also: whof funds the IEA and why won't you tell anyone? WHO FUNDS THE IEA?

  • @andrewwhitehead2002
    @andrewwhitehead2002 3 месяца назад +7

    Entitlement, platitudes and a complete lack of awareness.

    • @timhill9189
      @timhill9189 3 месяца назад +1

      Well said. Just the old Tory stuff of cutting welfare and anti any social market nonsense. Not an interview, no challenges to absurd claims, just a forum for grandstanding.

  • @MatthewsIanJ
    @MatthewsIanJ 3 месяца назад +1

    I missed something: how does this guy love Thatcher but embrace Brexit?

    • @OhAwe
      @OhAwe 2 месяца назад

      Money.

  • @chriswhite1417
    @chriswhite1417 4 месяца назад +8

    Is this the IEA: architects of Liz Truss' disastrous mini budget??

    • @daraorourke5798
      @daraorourke5798 4 месяца назад +2

      Pretty much.

    • @gordondavies7773
      @gordondavies7773 4 месяца назад

      Yes... and they still have not declared who finances their sinister propaganda

  • @welshskies
    @welshskies 3 месяца назад +1

    Who funds the iea?

  • @edwardmclaughlin7935
    @edwardmclaughlin7935 4 месяца назад +6

    Dinners cannot get more serious than his.

    • @paddyhalligan28
      @paddyhalligan28 3 месяца назад +1

      He looks like he’s eaten a lot of them.

  • @welshskies
    @welshskies 3 месяца назад +5

    "The so called poor and the so called dispossessed", what an odious man. Look at the size of his gut, Simon Heffer doesn't appear to suffer from lack of access to food, it would take several food banks to keep that tummy tanked up.

  • @Multimine
    @Multimine 3 месяца назад

    Anyone know where he got the stat regarding 70% of nhs budget going on payroll, it seems to be a significant pillar of his oppinion on the state of the nhs. From what I can tell, it's more like 45% however.

  • @christianecoughlan7392
    @christianecoughlan7392 3 месяца назад +10

    Dérégulation is what cause the 2008 crash! Not a very good precedent…

  • @drasticplasticaustin
    @drasticplasticaustin Месяц назад

    Governing this Country is largely about what can be gotten away with at the public's expense. It's taken many a decade but I think the public are finally waking up to these sorry costly stunts.

  • @adriancurtin6012
    @adriancurtin6012 3 месяца назад +1

    The problem is the Home Office .Not the Treasury.

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 3 месяца назад

      Sadly our Civil Service has been so politicised that ministers receive the advice they want to hear not what they should hear. Any Civil Servant who tells his minister that a policy won't work is sacked. The FCO and Treasury warned the government about Brexit and it lead to all the best Civil Servants being replaced.

  • @OhAwe
    @OhAwe 2 месяца назад +1

    His silver spoon contained mercury.

  • @angusdesire
    @angusdesire 4 месяца назад +6

    'Arse from their elbow': in North Lanarkshire we say Boris Johnson didn't know if he was going for a shite or a haircut.

    • @harrying882
      @harrying882 3 месяца назад

      Brilliant

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 3 месяца назад

      Johnson and haircut in the same sentence?

  • @edgeyt1
    @edgeyt1 3 месяца назад +1

    This video was brought to you by the tobacco industry and other secret funders.

  • @roygardiner2229
    @roygardiner2229 3 месяца назад +2

    For me, the most important issue by far is the very damaging high level of immigration. Its impact on culture and identity is more important than on the economy.
    The account of the Civil Servant asserting that "we" would stop Brexit speaks volumes. They are SERVANTS.
    I enjoyed the interview immensely. Mr. Heffer is simply a highly intelligent, interesting and, yes, good, man.
    Mr. Heffer's comments on the comparative amounts of money spent on the NHS and on defence were convincing to me.
    His account of Enoch Powell's encounter on the Tube was so very amusing.

  • @MrJohnfoster70
    @MrJohnfoster70 3 месяца назад +3

    The 364 economists were proven right. As we take the Tory waters of privatisation.

  • @damianbutterworth2434
    @damianbutterworth2434 3 месяца назад

    The EU is turning right wing. Us Brexiteers might join up again if they do.

  • @robertjohnstone718
    @robertjohnstone718 3 месяца назад +1

    One could tell oneself that he’s just mistaken about the practical effects of his economic approach - though he’s notably contemptuous of the idea that the state should help people. That is, until he tells us his hero, the greatest person he’s known, is Enoch Powell. Powell, the toxic racist and imperialist, who made life worse for tens of thousands of Asian and Afro-Caribbean people, who betook himself to Northern Ireland to bolster the retrogressive bigots of the Unionist Party. The economic talk is directed towards the sort of society he wants, and presumably the one he thinks Powell wanted. It’s by no means as cuddly and reasonable as he (and the iea, it seems) would pretend.

  • @salamanders6969
    @salamanders6969 3 месяца назад +1

    Boris couldn’t organize a piss up in the brewery!

  • @christianecoughlan7392
    @christianecoughlan7392 3 месяца назад +1

    Tax all dividends and chase heavens for money. ReDistribution is the best way to look after people.

  • @stephen25uk
    @stephen25uk 3 месяца назад

    He loses credibility for me when he complains that Johnson´s appalling cabinet was the worst in history. Of course it was! it was deliberate. Johnson and Cummings would not appoint competent people of integrity. They needed to surround themselves with ministers equally as vacuous and immoral as themselves.

  • @peterteagleteagle9958
    @peterteagleteagle9958 3 месяца назад +6

    So we haven't got any money to look after pensioners, but we got money for asylum sleekers, that's makes sense

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 3 месяца назад

      Eh? Pensioners are the only people in the UK with any money

  • @opensky6580
    @opensky6580 3 месяца назад +2

    Having Gladstone as a role model is like in Germany being very fond of Bismark. It feels a little bit outdated in the XXI century

  • @1526andrews
    @1526andrews 4 месяца назад +6

    Re old people, if they have houses and assets then sell them and pay for their care.

    • @thomasalexand
      @thomasalexand 4 месяца назад +3

      But they've paid their national insurance and taxes. Why must they be penalised?

    • @paulcassidy8130
      @paulcassidy8130 4 месяца назад

      @@thomasalexand An ironic comment, I assume.

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn 4 месяца назад +1

      And if you have no assets you get your care for free?

    • @thomasalexand
      @thomasalexand 4 месяца назад

      @@paulcassidy8130 The nanny state encourages parasites.

    • @thomasalexand
      @thomasalexand 4 месяца назад +3

      @importantjohn Yes. Not everyone can earn the national average wage. Some people, for various reasons, can not work. But everyone should have an affordable roof over their head. This country has been broken for many years.

  • @paulfromdevon4707
    @paulfromdevon4707 3 месяца назад

    Heffer by name........

  • @ggunnelspct
    @ggunnelspct 4 месяца назад +7

    Brexit was about xenophobia and it was certainly not about creating a more free market UK. This dude and the IEA were always deluding themselves if they thought it was.

    • @12presspart
      @12presspart 3 месяца назад +1

      yes it was the biggest mistake this country has ever took

    • @markferguson7563
      @markferguson7563 3 месяца назад

      Considering that you're a champion of open-borders, I do wonder what your position is with open-borders, when observing those 300,000 Muslims staging that pro-Palestinian rally on October 28?
      Or, indeed, ggunnelspect, what is your position with the 208 people (out of the 532) who were slaughterd by Islamic fundamentalists during the reign of Terror, from Atocha, and London in 2004, and MP, David Amiss, in July 2021?
      Or, perhaps, with the Muslims who rape white girls?

  • @xelakram
    @xelakram 4 месяца назад +15

    Brexit has been a disaster.

    • @andylewis7360
      @andylewis7360 4 месяца назад +2

      So far

    • @xelakram
      @xelakram 4 месяца назад

      @@andylewis7360 It will only get worse. Brexit is impoverishing the nation. To walk away from the biggest single market in the world, which is right on our doorstep, makes no economic sense. Even Thatcher would be appalled by it. She was not pro-EU, we all know, but she was pro-international trade, and she was one of the main architects of the Single Market. Moreover, Churchill would be appalled by Brexit. Read or listen to Churchill's speech delivered at the University of Zürich in 1946. Brexit was Britain's worst move since the end of WWII.

    • @SuperBlinding
      @SuperBlinding 4 месяца назад +2

      Rather like the French Revolution = = Too soon to say.

    • @lemonaid2216
      @lemonaid2216 4 месяца назад +1

      Global lockdowns and the Ukraine war have been disasters. Brexit coincided with these two disasters and ignorant people level the blame at Brexit.

    • @markferguson7563
      @markferguson7563 3 месяца назад

      Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris.
      I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP.
      The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also.
      However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations.
      Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.

  • @kayedal-haddad
    @kayedal-haddad 4 месяца назад +1

    I am a good old fashioned Gladstonian Liberal!

  • @madleon81
    @madleon81 3 месяца назад

    Britain never reformed itself properly after WW2. How did Commonwealth embrace democracy while Britain carried on the feudal system 😢

  • @charlesbruggmann7909
    @charlesbruggmann7909 4 месяца назад +9

    A ‘low tax’ economy is a pipe dream as long as the NHS exists. So, when will the Tory party have the guts to stand on a platform of either abolishing it or financing it through private insurance.
    PS: the Armed Forces need an absolute minimum of an extra £10bn pa.

    • @rjw4762
      @rjw4762 4 месяца назад

      Well said - when one reads that other comparable nations have lower taxes, the reason is that they do not have the NHS to pay for, or a bloated Social Welfare bill. As for the NHS, if it's so damn brilliant, how come no other country on earth copies the same model of keeping its people healthy ?

    • @simony2801
      @simony2801 3 месяца назад

      Let's not do that

  • @jdg9999
    @jdg9999 3 месяца назад +1

    Britain could be great again if there were leaders with real vision for the future. We can either be shitty 2nd world neoliberal social democracy, with a small super wealthy elite based on finance on London, and the rest of the world an open borders third world dumping ground to bring in low wage labour.
    Or we could have a future oriented nationalist government that would combine serious governance (no more feckless deficit spending and waste on current spending rather than capital investment), a realist foreign policy (cooperate with Russia, China and other emerging economies in synergy instead of yapping about "democracy promotion" as part of the American empire, divert defence spending almost entirely to the nacy to focus on protecting our commercial interests and defending the home islands), and a third position economic policy (let the market take care of things where we have a compeititve advantage like finance and luxury goods, while the state finances things we could be great again in with state investment, and which we have natural potential amd synergies for for, like shipbuilding, merchant shipping etc).

    • @markferguson7563
      @markferguson7563 3 месяца назад

      (*** A.S. So sorry to tell you, JDG, but Britain is way, way past the point of ever being great again. To glaringly ascertain that reality merely requires viewing any of the RUclipsr's who travel to cities and towns in the country exposing the hopeless, and hapless state of affairs. ***)
      *********************************************
      Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris.
      I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP.
      The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also.
      However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations.
      Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.

  • @patrickvb7100
    @patrickvb7100 3 месяца назад

    « 35 years or more of civil war over the European question… »
    …or how to kill the will to listen to a 1 hour debate after only 13 minutes and 25 seconds!
    One or the two of you should spend (much) more time studying about what “civil wars” really are.

  • @circularisnotthis
    @circularisnotthis 3 месяца назад

    I think this is the most misguided interpretation of events I’ve ever seen.
    British public did not vote for Brexit because of Nigel Farage alleged suppression. They voted because they were immiserated utterly and completely by Toryism .

  • @platexproductions
    @platexproductions 3 месяца назад +1

    That is an unfortunate name…

  • @michelodonnell7240
    @michelodonnell7240 3 месяца назад

    Is the British political system obsolete?

  • @Ste2023
    @Ste2023 3 месяца назад

    what took simon so long to see , in plain sight...
    the decline...
    ( Did he ever leave Knightsbridge ? and venture
    Managed Decline came to him ...even .

  • @crzxr
    @crzxr 3 месяца назад +1

    Certainly one of our fattest political commentators; Simon Hefferlump.

  • @masoodahmed2041
    @masoodahmed2041 3 месяца назад

    Also Heffer is a cricket buff which helps.

  • @danielrobertson8774
    @danielrobertson8774 3 месяца назад

    For the most part I don't disagree, with the exception of state debts. Sunak has brought the UK down to European levels with an acceptance that debt is OK at 90%+.
    That madness on top of idiocy. At most we can maintain 40% debt. So the Conservatives and SNP need to suffer, as they keen eternally delaying big private sector projects.
    A tunnel under the Thames costs money. A small nuclear reactor generates money.

  • @norbarellis
    @norbarellis 3 месяца назад

    52:30: "The limits on what people could put into their pensions were removed" err... what?!

  • @davidscott5209
    @davidscott5209 3 месяца назад

    As long as the urban professional class dominates parliament nothing positive will occur.

  • @stephenclarke4891
    @stephenclarke4891 3 месяца назад

    this is all done to blame Brexit

  • @michael1345
    @michael1345 2 месяца назад

    Hey Simon I know a delicious little restaurant with a huge wine cellar that specialises in thin chocolate wafers. Lets do lunch old poo. I know you will want to.😄

  • @eriktopolsky8531
    @eriktopolsky8531 3 месяца назад

    Torries are preparing for war, but they never asked British boters what they want... let them know on 4th of July

  • @julianchase95
    @julianchase95 4 месяца назад +5

    Regarding the “culture war” at around 14.00 David Starkey’s recent ncf speech was magnificent. He sees it not really as a culture war but as a political, legal and constitutional war kicked off by Blair’s disastrous reforms. Well worth watching:
    ruclips.net/video/ClDrkcSfKjk/видео.htmlsi=XUU-8PYWjH9mM1dY

    • @jstewart4205
      @jstewart4205 4 месяца назад +2

      It's always Blair...

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 3 месяца назад

      David Starkey is a fruit cake

  • @bulentosmane
    @bulentosmane 4 месяца назад +14

    Thatcher a great PM? he lost me there.

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 4 месяца назад +4

      I know what you mean but at least she had a vision. And was willing to be unpopular to get things done.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@mesolithicman164 she started the international finance take over of Britain.
      The ultimate anti small c conservative.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 4 месяца назад

      She let international finance capture and hollow out Britain

    • @jstewart4205
      @jstewart4205 4 месяца назад

      Did you just join to make that comment?

    • @paulcassidy8130
      @paulcassidy8130 4 месяца назад +2

      Not just great, but the greatest since WW2.

  • @robertritchie2860
    @robertritchie2860 3 месяца назад +1

    Cutting taxes leads to a poor structural and social environment: health, infrastructure. UK has become a crappy place to live. As long as this is continuously championed the country will never raise itself.

    • @davidl9771
      @davidl9771 3 месяца назад

      Taxes have gone up and up and up and up. yet everything has gone to shit regardless.

  • @brightonduder
    @brightonduder 3 месяца назад

    Proper journalism
    Unfortunately Simon is as common these days as hens teeth

  • @paulwilson2651
    @paulwilson2651 4 месяца назад +7

    There is no "British Politics! only English as what England says goes!

    • @GrumpyPumpy
      @GrumpyPumpy 3 месяца назад +1

      Not true!
      Was Gordon Brown an English Prime Minister? Was he working for England alone?

  • @davidholloway1776
    @davidholloway1776 4 месяца назад +7

    I'm with Simon on a lot. Most. But the idea that Trump belongs in prison is for the birds. A silly comment.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 4 месяца назад

      He is an example of why the Torys have lost the working class.

    • @IssacharGR
      @IssacharGR 4 месяца назад

      Yes indeed - Trump is the best hope western democracies have...in reversing the elite globalist agendas.
      Trump is a conduit for popilism...Surely popular ideas in the population - are the policies that 'the elites should be enacting?

    • @jstewart4205
      @jstewart4205 4 месяца назад

      @@evolassunglasses4673 - You have to actually work to be classified as 'Working Class' - Benefits don't count!

    • @andylewis7360
      @andylewis7360 4 месяца назад

      @@jstewart4205What would you call someone who claims benefits then? Or do you think they shouldn’t vote at all?

    • @markferguson7563
      @markferguson7563 3 месяца назад

      Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris.
      I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP.
      The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also.
      However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations.
      Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.

  • @VintageSoloHarmony
    @VintageSoloHarmony 3 месяца назад

    Beds Baths & Beyond was a private for profit business that went bankrupt. Not a great title. Is Simon arguing for 100% inheritance tax, or for tax reductions? Confusing. At least he talks about society, which is not supposed to exist, no such thing.

  • @susansantapola
    @susansantapola 3 месяца назад

    Woulf be interested to know who funds this organisation.