How Luka Doncic attacks defenses by going sideways
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Luka Doncic scored 60 points in a triple-double win over the Knicks on December 27, 2022, but it was his 22 point game against the Nuggets a few weeks earlier that caught my eye. This detailed film breakdown & scouting report analyzes how the Mavericks MVP candidate attacks "hedges" in the pick-and-roll -- commonly used by Nikola Jokic -- and why his size and patience make him so hard to stop, even when he's double-teamed.
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It’s hard to tell which is better at times, his playmaking or scoring.. luka is a special talent
That doesn't matter, his scoring elevates his playmaking and vice versa. It doesn't make sense to separate them.
They work in tandem and the best part as mentioned in the last part of the video about having that size advantage as well as the court vision. Luka is able to stress the defense on similar screen actions like a small guard would but he has more angles to attack with his passing due to his size.
Scoring is playmaking
Playmaking for sure, he confuses the defense so much he gets his teammates and his self open at the same time
One of the most impressive things to note is how he almost does this by walking. Although that walking and his low speed is essential for his change of rythm, which is most of his game and most of Luka Legend's effectiveness.
I'm glad you opened with that Luka celebration after the put back from his free throw in regulation. 😂
It's an insane era with stats going crazy. 7 players averaging at least 30pts, one 7footer averaging near a triple double, Luka around 33pts 9reb-9ast, several others, 20pts 10ast is no longer first team all nba or maybe not even 2nd team, etc. We are going to see lots of records broken.
I was about to say how did you have time to edit out film from a game that happened last night but then I realized this wasn’t for the Knicks game
Why no content on the Brooklyn Nets?
Are you and bball breakdown collabing? The last 2 videos you two posted are of the same player around the same time 😂
bball copies Ben
I think his IQ is his most dangerous weapon. He’s constantly manipulating defenses like a puppet master. Combine that with his slow paced scoring & amazing touch w/ his frame. The way he puts it all together is true talent.
its talent but skill is the bigger part in that. you can have the highest IQ in the world and not know much about basketball. he's put an immense amount of work studying how to manipulate defenses like a puppet master. there's a lot of talented people in the nba hes just put in the work to know what works and what doesn't on offense.
@@codyrouse2372 touché.
it's his EQ that needs some work
@@codyrouse2372 well thats what he meant. People mean bbiq not actual iq. You can be really smart off the court and have terrible game feel and basketball iq, and you can be not the smartest guy but have a high baskstball iq and feel
@@codyrouse2372 he has. But clearly making decisions so quickly needs a lot brain power. Thinking fast and strategizing quickly is the sign he's got a good brain
Here's the companion breakdown in the NBA App on how he went for 60 against the Knicks coverages: app.link.nba.com/think_B
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“The old 60 point 20 rebound triple double”
I was surprised that Wilt never had a game like that.
He probably didn't have enough assists tbh
@@awildrengarappeared8419 And once he started passing, he didn't have enough points.
He probably had 10+ games like this with blocks
facts💯😳when u in the nba & got a record even WILT dont have u doin sum right🤔
Wilt "blocks" was probably goal tending some of them as he just jump high when someone take a shot in front of him.
This is what makes Luka such a ridiculous talent...his blend of scoring and passing. No matter what defensive coverage he has to deal with, he is going to be able to have a significant impact on the game. The greats find ways to contribute to winning even if the jumpshot isn't falling. With the way his career is panning out so far, Luka is on track to be one of the very greatest the game has ever seen.
luka scoring his fun to watch but his playmaking is even more fun to watch some of the passes and reads he makes are incredible and always has me wondering how did he see that guy open😭
Him and Jokic are so similar in that regard, great watching them pop off but it’s even more entertaining just seeing them completely dismantle defenses time and time again
@@samn90834 fr they make it look so easy when they do its funny😭
@@samn90834 He didn't see anybody open. He provides the room and opens them up.
I'm appreciating every game of Luka i can, because time flies' man and next thing we know we're 15 years into his career. Just hope he got us multiple titles by then (pending we finally get him a co-star)
He needs the ball too much to ever have another star. Other co-stars are always going to see their stats plummet with Luka. There is zero chance someone with his usage rate wins a championship. That monster triple double was barely enough to beat a .500 team in overtime. You can scale players like Bird and Jokic. You cannot do that with this kid. I would hate to play with someone like him. You can bet that other great players have no desire to play with Luka like they do with Joker.
@@wecanjump7512 He needs the ball or the team needs him to have the ball to even be a contender? We said the same thing to players like Kobe an yet he won multiple championships. I've watched Luka played against the clippers and he was doing everything, but it's hard to do what he does for 40 mins without resting and needing a help. That's why he needs a co-star who would help take the load off him. Even MJ needed Pippen. Kobe and Shaq needed each other. Lebron who is a floor general like Luka needed Wade and Kyrie to help him.
@@wecanjump7512 it’s his team that needs him to play like that, not him. He learned to play basketball off-ball in Real Madrid as a teen and won everything there by playing that way. Luka will adjust accordingly should the mavs get that 2nd star that every other mvp candidate has rn. MJ himself played very ball dominant at the start of his career until Pippen developed, let’s see how Luka’s career and time with the mavs enfolds
@@joejonas3584 Kobe is a terrible example. He was the second option in the playoffs on all but 1 of his championship teams. Shaq led those teams, not Kobe. Kobe might be the most overrated player in basketball history. Wade was better.
@@AveChristusRex789 Maybe, but ego has a funny way of worming its way into some players heads and habits have a way of sticking. Also, how can his teammates do anything but shoot corner threes? They never have the ball.
I need a Dallas Denver playoff series.
My heart can't take that as a Dallas fan. Please no Jokic and Murray
@@johncarolina4950 Doubt Nuggets fans are looking forward to Doncic patiently waiting for an opportunity to force Joker into a PnR situation or Murray's defending.
@@martytu20 Nuggets fans are looking forward to watching the MVP feast on the Mavs time and time again
my 2 favorite teams in the west, my heart can’t take it
I need jokic and Luka on the same team
i appreciate this channel so much. I felt like I actually understood the reads Luka was making because the breakdown was so concise. Makes you appreciate how crazy it is to make these reads in real-time game speed. i cant imagine the sheer amount of reps it takes for these actions to become muscle memory/read-and-react
couldnt have said it better man, truly exceptional
There are the reps but Luka's vision is SPECIAL. NBA talents can hope to improve what they can with their own court vision and passing opportunities. But Luka already had a high floor with it to start and his bag keeps going deeper and it shows EVERY YEAR. The moment his teammate already flashes the screen he's just looking which defender is tagging along and he's ready to execute the gameplan.
He also barely leaves the ground, his longevity will be improved from the way he plays. He knows space very well. One of the most unique players to watch and he's still so young and improving rapidly.
Glad yall are posting frequently again. Missed the content this summer
In case you're unaware and actually interested, they ranked the top 50 player careers over multiple podcasts this summer. A lot of the pods take an hour or so just to discuss 3 or 4 guys.
@@ziggle5000 oh shit didn't know that. I don't follow the pod as much cuz I don't have the time for the length but I will definitely check that out. Thank you
That Luka C Wood pick n roll has the potential to be a special kind of duo in the league.
Wood could truly be winning and could truly be a very good player, if he dedicates himself in being successful for this Mavs team.
Let's hope that he usual Luka Playoffs insanity will be aided by major team contributions. At least there's Dinwiddie (plus coach Kidd).
Luka Tatum Giannis are the future of basketball a guard a small forward and a power forward
Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner exists
Giannis 4 years older than Luka,why are we pretending they are same generation
@@ngdotcom Franz 😂😂 but they are referring to players that are closer to their prime years
Williamson
@@belminspahic1449 they're the same era
Luka is just unbelievable man
I'd really enjoy a video where you show some of your favorite examples of Luka's "micro ball-fakes". I've heard Ben mention before a few times how Luka's so good at these "micro ball-fakes", and there was a clip in this video where Luka's highlighted disguising a lob in the pnr as if he's going to whip the ball over his head to the corner. And the cleverness, let alone dexterity to pull that off, even though the defender doesn't bite to the corner (and it still doesn't matter) to pull that off just blows me away. I'd love to see more of that, like slowed down and analyzed to show how Luka's able to create space for himself and others, moving defenders in clever little ways. It's really high level stuff.
Wish my hawks woulda kept him :(
I don't watch a lot of basketball, but I still appreciate witnessing great talents and amazing artists in their respective fields of excellence, no matter what. Luka seems to be one of those upcoming players who will have a big impact on his sport. Witnessing someone get into the flow state and excell at what they do effortlessly, is just so immeasurably satisfying.
Luka is plays a chess match. He’s not only reading movement & reacting, but he’s anticipating your reactions and using your expectations/reads against you.
Could you do a historic breakdown on Karl Malone's playstyle??
Its funny cause like luka the mavs are going sideways as well
Lmao...I mean, they have quietly been playing okay...can't remember the last time they were 3 games over .500 since they were like 6-3 haha
LOL just like last season huh? Suns led the west with a great record. Then when playoffs came they got their lunch money taken. Love it when you folks are chirpy around December but disappear when March rolls in.
I’ve been learning so much about lesser known things to add to my game from you guys. Stuff like off ball screening so they can’t close out the shooter.
Generally over helping on D is one I pick up from a lot of your vids
Off ball screening has been a thing not just used against the corner shooter situation, but also on screens where the roll man would 'box out' the big at the paint area to give the ball handler an opportunity to have one less rim defender at the basket.
This video could named „How Luka destroys Jokic“
Your content is unparalleled. Just brilliant attention to detail and you have a nice way of looking at the game and the talent in it, which breathes through it.
It's funny how the basketball gods punished Ben when he had the AD video ready to go and AD got injured, now they reward him by Luka having an absolutely historic night the night before he puts this out. It's nice how they balanced it out for him.
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MVP will probably be either Luka or Joker.
Luka is great but this style of offense will not win the championship especially against elite defensive teams.
Unfortunately mavs got no choice with this roster construction
Hey man just one quick tip of advice/opinion for growing your audience, I think tweeting clips of your videos/tweeting when you post could gain you a significant amount of attention/traction(it could go viral), and there’s literally no downside IMO! One other thing…. as a DIE HARD MAVS FAN who has watched ever min. of every MAVS game these past 2 years, I genuinely believe Luka(Giannis is the only player close imo) is the best player in the league by a Significant Margin (without trying to include bias lol). My question is.. do you think I’m crazy to have that opinion?? ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR CONTENT BTW!!!! Best basketball content on RUclips BY FAR :-)
The Harden Luka comparisons can stop now we’re talking Jordan territory
I’m saying. Harden at 23 wasn’t ever close to the level Luka is at and Harden is not the only heliocentric player ever I’d also rather compare Luka to young MJ. Both averaged 32+/8/8 in their 5th season 🤷♂️
It stopped by Luka's 3rd season. All he did was mastered Harden's step back and his consistency with the screen game to jail his opponent behind him while being an elite finisher under the basket. Luka was already adding more to his arsenal beyond that point while Harden continued to eat off the FT rules and doing weird shit with it.
Pick & Roll merchant
Best start to a career since Lebron.
This league is about to be his.
He’s truly a generational talent. Dallas just needs to get the kid some help
Luka's last five games 👀
🪄25 PTS | 9 REB | 10 AST
🪄50 PTS | 8 REB | 10 AST
🪄32 PTS | 9 REB | 9 AST
🪄60 PTS | 21 REB | 10 AST
🪄35 PTS | 12 REB | 13 AST
🪄 5 W's
Unreal run 🔥
Around 4:10, you reference the dribble to behind the back pass into the open miss and quote it as hardaway but it’s Finney-Smith
That was Finney-Smith at 4:15. Great breakdown!
Luka really doin all that for a win in OT vs the Knicks. Get this dude some help.
knicks without brunson n rj*
@@LukaLegend77 rj is average at best, JB on other hand is phenomenal. Dont forget grimes played like prime kd yesterday
@@tnikoli40 rj is avging 21-6-3 this last month when they had an 8 game winning streak he plays a big part for the knicks and if they were both healthy they would have beaten the mavs in regulation and rj is better than grimes
@@LukaLegend77 Mavs also played without their best 3&D players in Kleber and Finney Smith
@@AveChristusRex789 kleber finney and josh green all out.
Imagine him and jokic operating the pick and role together… that would be something to see
Could have actually happened if Luka chose to play for Serbia (he's 50% Serbian)
That would be unbelievable.
@@davidjr4903 He’ll never do that. He’s Slovene by birth, heart and 50% by genes. However he would play on Yugoslav team together with Vučević, Nurkić, Dragić, Bogdanovićs ….. what a team that would be!
@@danakaleb4882 Dragic and Vucevic also could have easily played for Serbia while Nurkic isn't good enough when Jokic and Marjanovic (and Vucevic) exist
@@davidjr4903 I was just mentioning those in NBA who would qualify for Yugoslav team.
When I woke up to this statline I was just like there is no way man. He’s such an incredible player and fun to watch. But also of course it was the Knicks choking this game away lmao
Watched it as it happened it was unbelievable
That was embarrassing from the Knicks
I bet Jokic and Luka enjoy watching each other play. they both think at such a high level it must be cool to see that passing magic from a 3rd person perspective. Would be cool to see them play in an all star game together or something
I like how this channel has just become lakers warriors luka and the occasional ‘boy this other teams sucks’.
Tatum creates but not at luka's level, tatum scores, but not at luka's level, he rebounds but... well you know. Doncic for MVP
Tatum defends, but Luka doesn't, Tatum's team is the 1 seed, luka is fighting for the play in
@@Charlie-jf1me You can't attribute all of the Celtic's success to Tatum lol, he doesn't carry as Luka does. Imagine Luka with a solid 2nd option like Brown ufff
And he doesn't, because he can't. Just saying. Tatum in the Dallas Mavericks would be lottery pick team bro
@@Checompa quit playing 2k, casual
@@ozymandias2630 sorry bro didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Had to pull out the 2k card
better than run and dunk man
That last game winning play by the mavs was magical! Thank you for the breakdown
I always thought the great PGs (nash,Jkidd,stockton,etc.) drove sideways in PnR...
its always dummies like Westbrook that rush in recklessly..
The Nuggets inability to defend a PnR against elite stars due to Jokic is why I can't see them ever winning a chip. You can basically generate a wide open three or layup on command in the clutch vs them.
the Mavs are an extreme example with not only how often they run a variety of screens/PnRs but the different angles their ball handler can attack from it. Also its not like the Nuggets can't get 'better' with upgrading defensive talent on wings.
@@t4d0W They've upgraded massively on the perimeter with KCP and Brown, plus they have Aaron Gordon. They're still a bottom 10 defense and it'll only be worse in the playoffs when they face a superstar guard/wing. The Warriors last year basically spammed a PnR at Jokic and dominated in every clutch game.
Who's gonna stop the MVP on the other end tho? Nobody
@@varunkamat7390 Defending PnR isn't just the job of the big. If the guards can't keep up with the ball handler or the backside can't rotate to help, the entire thing is shot. If you look at who the Nuggets got on defense in the playoffs last year, its no wonder even the Warriors can run circles in the half court without any resistance. Which is why I wrote the Nuggets can get 'better' but to win a chip, they gotta be better than KCP and Aaron Gordon on defense.
We need more defensive breakdowns on this channel. A lot of channels steer away from defense but it’s more important now than ever.
This “1 man zone” concept would have never been able to happen under the guise of “illegal defense” and I find it hilarious when we try to compare offenses to each other historically for that simple fact.
I enjoy the videos you do on the evolution of the rules.
Please tap into that more.
The entire offense changes with the illegal defense rule. Honestly basketball is just a different game through the eras. You can't compare greats in the game in my opinion.
Players like Shaq would be awful between 60s-80s.
Dude, I need the 60-point breakdown...
Luka Doncic deafening win win 🙌 👏 💪 😎 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
As a b ball junkie I used to think b-ball breakdown was the best for breaking down the NBA but after watching Thinking Basketball this is the best
BARKLEY SAID...WHY do you double LUKA...now you see why...
Although when you double Luka your team gets completely blown out by outside open shots (at least when they stop not hitting anything, like the Mavs did in the first period of the Lakers game).
my ultimate dream is to see luka and jokic on same team , imagine basketball iq on that team.... sadly yugoslavia is no more and nationaly they will not play together, but in nba , damn i wish one team would buy another guy and enjoy a dynasty for next 10 years
Bruh i'm going to use this in 2k if they hedge string em out to the side and swing around the arc this will be deadly !!
Im actually sick and tired of our defence, Luka destroyed us
Waiting on the Brooklyn Nets/KD analysis ….🌝
Man, it’s not even fair to have to guard against luka. He is truly a top tier player
A joker and a magician in a team can make one of the most entertaining circus team
Thinking of playoff basketball, just goes to show you how unique GS' 2022 personnel was. They were able to cook both DEN and DAL who both have heliocentric systems. They were able to bang with Jokic and defend Luca on the perimeter. Clearly shows you how important generational defensive tallent is when paired with all time great offensive tallent. We'll see if either Jokic or Luka get that generational defensive tallent they need to win chips.
Sure. But I think the 10 rebounds a game golden state had over Dallas in their wins mattered a lot too.
The Jokic equation isn't as hard to beat for the Warriors as he's a very good elevator of talent around him. BUT if the talent around him isn't up to par, its a matter of letting him take over and while stopping the rest of his teammates. Meanwhile the Nuggets have nobody great to matchup vs the Warriors on offense. Regarding Luka the Warriors had 2 great foils against him; Wiggins who was on him nearly the entire series and Looney who helped when Luka attacked the basket. Both those guys were able to adapt very well to Luka's ability to stop and go on a dime. Plus Wiggins is as ferocious on the boards as Luka himself is.
The West was weak last year.
The Thinking Basketball/Ben Taylor starter pack:
1. Praise Luka
2. Praise Jokic
3. Praise Curry
4. With Or Without You
*Praise any most popular players just in order to get more views
You have to do a breakdown on Kevin durant defense this season and for the last 5-6 years. Severely underrated on that side of the ball.
Yup. Posting a 43.2% defensive field goal % this year.
The Mavs need a real Center.
was this the greatest game of all time? what was his game score and PER?
Maybe not the greatest if it comes to gamescore (6th highest in NBA history) BUT if you count in the significance of the points (the made bucket after the missed FT with 1 second left) and overall game (1st win by a team that was down 9+ points with under 35 seconds left in over 20 years, the statline was 0 vs 13,884) it is at least up there with Wilts 100 point game and Kobes 81 point game. So for me Top 3 individual performance of all time!
@@Smido83 it’s the 5th best game-score wise not 6th
The chess match happening between both teams whilst in the middle of a physical contest is incredible. Luca's control and decision making is remarkable.
Great Player: But, NBA CHAMP RING is the BAROMETER. Ask that to Barkley, Ewing, Embiid, Harden, Westbrooke
The big question is can a team win it like this, with a ton of Pn'R and heliocentrism? Is it effective enough deep into the season?
Actually, Dallas is the best NBA team when it comes to half court offense. That's why they excel in the playoffs.
Looking at gsw it seems no. 5 above average players are better than one excellent and 4 mediocres. Strength in numbers.
@@denizg2653 They have a half court offense at least against most of the WC in the playoffs. When the Suns couldn't get to their skip passes and get Ayton in the spots, their entire half court offense pitifully crumbled. Which is why I don't buy the Suns after the playoffs last season. Their bags aren't deep enough and when you take that one pet scheme, it becomes a 'how fast can Devin Booker heave shots' game.
@@aks1993kumar i tend to agree. But not entirely sure, as there are so many viable playing styles in the NBA RN.
@@denizg2653 They did okay last year.
So he’s white James Harden. Big. Doughy. Never gonna be in great shape. Jackhammers the basketball while his teammates stand around. James Harden Too: Electric Boogaloo. JoM
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Every point rebound and assist was needed
1:52 "...are sitting on Luka like he has a live dribble..."
Um... he DOES have a live dribble.
Sometimes the refs ignore interrupted dribbles, but this is not a close case.
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Respect to Nash but man, Luka is the best pick and roll maestro ever. His reads are mind-boggling accurate.
Such productive player.... wasting his talents since Dallas don't care to gather a proper team around him.
Luka will play to 44 or 45 and Adam Silver is turning the NBA into the Euro League one season at a time ! We will have real World Champions soon !
Mediocre defense insane court vision and passing which both Jokic and Luka exhibit.
2:56 Yeah, i mean, it wouldn't be good if he does exactly what the enemy wants all the time. But it can surely backfire, it's strongly crowded (of course it's not the same as well guarded) and if they're waiting for that they're gonna open a huge grin.
It's like the idea that the one who controls the conversation it's the one who listen, offense is a response to defense, so you can use that to your favor. Some reverse magic, "dark arts" as Akagi manga would say.
I was too young to appreciate young Kobe and too much of a hater to appreciate young LeBron. Not making that same mistake with Luka.
Luka is great but I don't love watching this type of basketball.
Bonez is totally unusable!
i hope he will learn something during this season, Murray is clueless in defense also...
4:37 He could have just gone for a floater. Aside from a simple mistake, i bet his mind was on full set play mode so he didn't thought of that, for team plays to work well they must count a lot on rehearsal and syncrony with few space to improvisation
Luka is best player in the league his iq and how he doesn’t read his man reads the second line of defense and using his to manipulate the defense and his crafty moves draws fouls like if he see defender arm out trying to reach in he will go low pickup draw the foul or when defender on his giving up a straight line drive protect the ball on his him and then the slow step to wait for the defender no Tim go in front of him and then his pump fakes to get the defensive to jump and draw fouls or the Step through
Please drag Luka to Denver so he can stomp the NBA with Jokic
why didnt they just let kleber screen for luka even though jokic pre switched to him
Bron and AD would be a nightmare with this kind of spacing
Facts is Luka is just 23 but he look like a veteran now he os really special😊
Pass to the man that’ll bait out Jokic, make him defend the pick and roll, find the open man
Plays so advanced these days. arguments for old players over modern ones get weaker by the day
Great break downs man, i've been into Basketball for years but never got to understand the craft the way I wanted to, now I can
Can you do a Kevin Durant warriors breakdown please.
his IQ is seriously off the charts. his teammate cannot even tell what he's after and it's sad
nice video, but this is basic basketball if somebody try to stop p&r
the fact that he's such a threat at scoring helps his playmaking as well and vice versa i pray he stays and doesn't get to a point in his career where he has to go somewhere else to get a ring i would hate to see him end up like harden
Christian Wood is good wish he has more bulk on his frame to take on the Big Boys
Yo that’s crazy in the context of the championship
2:28 Damn, that sounds like an 18th century name
Why you exposing Dallas' offense?
Why are the defenses so bad though lol its like they arent even trying
there is a playing coach on the court in Mavs' game
Luka learning tricks from 2k lol
4:10 that's Finney-Smith not THJ