GILBERT IS LYING. THE LAKERS WOULD NOT HAVE 7 MAX PLAYERS. A MAX CONTRACT BACK THEN WAS 22-24M. IDK WHY HE KEEPS SAYING IT WAS 12M. IN ONE SENTANCE HE SAID KOBE WAS MAKING 24M THEN HE SAID IF THEY GET RID OF HIM THEY'D GET 2 MAX PLAYERS IN RETURN... HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. HALF THE STUFF HE SAYS IS GENIUS AND THE OTHER HALF IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT. LIKE THE ONE TIME HE SAID POWER FOWARDS IN THE 90s WERE 6'4"
Jeannie Bus said if her brother would have listened and not reported the trade until she got back from meeting with the owners, the trade would have went through.
After how CP3 is with the Suns and Clippers, I wonder if CP3 will start drama with other players in the Laker roster at the time. Everywhere he goes, drama seem to follow him.
Gil is one of my favorite players to listen to. Hes seen every era, played in the league at a high level, had some legendary teammates, and has his own individual classic stories like the bringing a gun into the locker room. lmao happy hes here to share with us.
Yeah but his reason for bringing the gun… wasn’t it because his teammate wouldn’t pay a gambling bet or something like that? He went from top player in the league, then almost like Antonio Brown in the NFL, did a bunch of crazy shit and poof, out of the league!
Thank you Gil. I was in middle school when this traded got vetoed. I’m a grown man 29 yrs old…Can’t believe it took this long to FULLY UNDERSTAND this whole fiasco 😅
Yea Pau to Houston,Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Odom we’re going to the hornets plus draft picks. And all the lakers would get was CP, such bullshit it was vetoed cuz the clippers got cp3 for mf eric Gordon and buncha scrubs. Good job David stern
You got an actual former NBA player to speak out in detail about a controversy that has never been spoken out in the public. Not even ESPN could do that. Bravo to you sir. 👏
Idc what anyone says , if the trade would've went through , Kobe wouldn't of had to exert himself so much with having more help like cp3 , this would've gave him more longevity to his career and not getting hurt.
Unfortunately for us Laker fans it was The perfect Storm. The league had literally just taken over the Hornets. Had the trade gone down with any other team there would have been less of a chance that this could have happened but because the commissioner was directly involved in the day-to-day operations of the Hornets every other owner was looking at him and would blame him... Don't forget David Stern was also in the last years of his tenure with the NBA so he knew he couldn't leave Adam Silver with 28 angry owners and a Laker team that would dominate the league for the next 10 years...
Kobe could of won at least 7 or 8 chips if the CP3 trade would of happened. Also, No way Jerry Buss would of let Kobe walked. He was the best Player in the league.
The Lakers were way too committed to Kobe to let him go (at least prior to his Achilles injury). Maybe if he tore his Achilles at that time, it could have happened. But that was 3 years after. The Lakers is a FAMILY owned team, and they treat their players like a family owned team... so with Kobe's committment for 17 years I don't see them getting rid of him. Think about it... in 2010, Lebron had not one a SINGLE title. Why would they drop a proven champion for Lebron, who keeps losing in the east??? Just wouldn't have happened.
I've always heard the rumor that if CP3 went to the lakers, it would give the lakers a huge advantage, but i never understood why until today watching this video. I wasn't even thinking about the potential money the Lakers would have had remaining after the trade. I would love to peek into an alternate timeline where this went through...
Damn instead of CP3 going to the Los Angeles Lakers he went to the sad flippers and won nothing. If he went to the Lakers at least one or two rings wow
They didn't want kobe with 7-8 rings. That's why he had animosity towards shaq. If shaq would of had the mind set of wanting to be the best center he clearly could have in that new style area back in 1996-2006 but nope. Lakers took care of Kobe bc of how they did him not pulling that man off the floor and his goals to get to the playoffs his last 5 seasons. He had to much of a load to carry.
And if they had won 7 rings it's obvious as well the measuring stick would be Kobe instead of Jordan it's as the league is indebted to Jordan and holds that in high regard. It makes sense even with lebron because if lebron had won that many Jordan would be forgotten this has many layers to it
Shaq mind set was great. His career would have been over a lot sooner if he worked like kobe. He was getting hit so much that the refs said the game would last 4hrs if they called ever hard foul. HBO max has a great doc on shaq to show why things turned out the way they did.
Lakers taking care of Kobe at the end got them Lebron. The way they are taking care of Lebron and Klutch will bring them another star when that time comes.
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 facts, magic went to lebron house to get him to sign the deal, they even had pics online of lebron and magic with the contract they both touching which i think lakers took down, and kobe was quoted saying he talked to lebron on the phone and gave him his blessings before he signed.. this is why lebron was so mad when magic stepped down and he was so anxious to play in the bubble and bring LA a title after kobe died because the 2 people that brought him to the lakers were no longer around the organization, magic still doesnt go around them like that, he will talk about them very good on espn but he stepped far away
@@cincinnatias Yes, he's full of it. I'd heard via a podcast (Paul Shirley) around 2012, that despite Chris Paul having great respect for Kobe, he didn't want to play with him; information that Shirley had heard about. People always get on Stern about blocking that trade, but that's the only logical reason that he would have done so. Even if the NBA owned and were running the Hornets (Pelicans) at that time, didn't mean that they weren't going to allow any trades; especially if it benefited the Hornets. Think about it, they (the NBA) still wound up trading CP3 to the Clippers shortly after, while they were still operating the team. On top of this, it's not like the NBA doesn't have a history of bending over backwards to make something work for the Lakers. Anthony Davis. Shaq. Kareem. Howard. Pau Gasol. Kobe, to an extent, as he didn't want to play for Charlotte in '96, but the Lakers were one of two teams that he wanted to play for.
He legit just say it was deeper then that. If it had been to any other team just coming off a back to back that was a major market, it's the same story.
Thanks my G for giving us insight on what goes on in the league. It so great were that guy so no can say shit about your game. More Blessings my brother 🙏
As a Mav Fan. THANK YOU GIL! without that "incident" we do not get Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood, and DeShawn Stevenson. 2011 Champion Catalyst Players.
@@zo62 December 2009 In his new memoir, Tuff Juice: My Journey from the Streets to the NBA, veteran Caron Butler recounted the now-infamous incident between Gilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenton in December 2009, when the two teammates with the Washington Wizards brought guns into the locker room.
This is 🧢 Mark Cuban wasnt the one making the fuss it was Dan Gilbert from the Cavs who penned a letter about the trade and how the Lakers would still save while getting CP3 Next 12M (said 24M is 2 max contracts)...The heatles signed a yr before and their contracts were 14.5M with them taking less at the time. Also they wouldnt have signed Lebron because he signed a 4yr deal with miami yr before. There wasnt really a big free agency class like the years before with melo and then amare, bosh, wade, lebron.
Bruh you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about and you clearly didn’t pay attention to what Gilbert said at all😂 First of all, there were multiple owners who opposed, and complained about the Chris Paul trade, and Mark Cuban was one of them. You can literally go back and look at the reports from 2011. And Gilbert stated multiple times that he wasn’t talking about the Lakers signing LeBron. He said the Lakers could sign all star caliber help with the money left over. Bruh said it so many times, you gotta be slow in the head
I was still mad that this trade didn't go through because that and the couple years that followed (injuries too) robbed Kobe of at least 1 more ring. But I didn't know it was this grand of a scheme. That team with or without Kobe could have potentially repeated. Don't think they'd have won a bunch though because you still had the Warriors coming in the mid and late 2010s, the Cavs & the Heat (since he said Bron was already there). But on paper it would be remarkable.
@@melvincarter9640 With what lineup? He used Bron & Bosh as an example. Those 2 were already in Miami so which other 2 free agent players you'd find that time that would make a better or similar pairing? Howard had a bad back and was never the same player in the years that followed & CP is a pass first PG & Kobe was done after 2013. On paper it looks good but when you really think about it the extreme most they'd have won in the 2010s decade is probably 2. And that is me being generous because 2011 is likely the only genuine shot at making a final. Kobe wouldn't offer much after 2013 due to injuries and there is no equivalent player to that guy at that time on the market. Only LeBron and he wasn't available.
@@diegobromfield either one of those line up would have beaten the Warriors dude. LeBron , Kobe , Howard , Bosh and CP would have blown the doors off the Warriors.
@@diegobromfield I don't think you know what you're talking about. If the Lakers pulled out that trade things would have been a lot different the Warriors had no answer for a team like that. Hell CP was given the Warriors hell when he was with the Rockets, LeBron was in his prime and so was Bosh, as for Kobe he still was putting up work and so was Howard.
I heard a conspiracy that mavs won cuz nba owed them from 06 and I’m sure u know what I’m talking Bout. But word of mouf is Cuban was gone expose LeRoids ped use 🤷🏾♂️
@@HoweyJR_wtf is you talking bout risking his kids life that’s everyday life for them getting on that helicopter he bought it for a reason that’s like saying if you crash your car you rushed karma gone get you boy
The Lakers where going to immediately waive Gil and use that 24 million in salary cap space to go after LeBron or KD or Bosh or any other max players. It would have been team USA in LA. We kinda got that in Golden State for 4 years but this would have been even more crazy
@Directed by Don Dwight's back was already messed up. He just played through it and had the surgery in LA. Because he played through it so long, he had issues again in Houston. Thats the reason I thought James Harden got robbed by Steph for MVP. He played half the season without Dwight.
That’s essentially what ended up happening with the Warriors getting Steph locked in for 4 years $44 million during his breakout and having enough room to sigh KD
The league owned the hornets at the time so the owners collectively were literally the ones with the power to block the trade. If Tom benson had owned the team at the time it wouldn’t have mattered what Cuban said. And the trade didn’t send either Odom or Gasol to New Orleans. Odom asked to go to Dallas and Gasol was going to Houston. The hornets were getting all of the rockets role players
New Orleans would have received Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic, Lamar Odom re-routed for a 1st, future picks. They would have had a fairly competitive team they already had Emeka Okafor, Carl Landry, Jarret Jack, Trevor Ariza, Marco Belinelli. After the Veto NOLA had talks with GSW, they would have received Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson if Chris Paul agreed to an extension.
@@aslan4196 no it wouldn’t have. They would have been a first round exit at best. Why should the team given up the best player get the role player and not at least Gasol. Lakers fans swear that was great. And yeah Paul vetoed the trade for Curry..that’s why I’m glad they blocked that trade
My advice is to watch Jeanie Buss explain why it didn’t go thru. It’s the more valid reason …. The only reason the other owners were upset was because they didn’t get the opportunity to properly give their own trade packages put together….
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too foreverm
@@AngelPerezComedy Gasol was old by then and wasn't a difference maker. CP3 would've fed Dwight and kept him happy his been known for making bigs look better than they were and Dwight was a beast.
The reason The New Orleans Hornets didn't have an owner is because the previous owner was about to file bankruptcy. If he had done that, it would have devalued every franchise in the NBA. The NBA took over the team to prevent that from happening and it was looking to find someone who would buy the team. The NBA thought that by trading Chris Paul, their best player, the value of the team would decrease and it would hurt the franchise values of the other 29 owners. The trade was vetoed so that any potential buyer would have, at least, one superstar. It was all about money for all the teams. For those who understand, it's like real estate. If someone in my neighborhood sells their house for a cheap price, it will hurt the value of my home.
Someone who gets it. That trade was awful for NOLA. "Why wouldn't the NBA want Gasol and Odom on their team?" WTF would the NBA do with that?? Gasol needed kobe, a system and would end up declining physically anyway. Odom LITERALLY lost his mind because he was traded and his career imploded. Can everything that Gil is saying be true on the business end, absolutely. But it wasn't some anti-laker conspiracy. If NOLA was privately owned and the GM made that trade, they'd be fired immediately. It was horrible.
Well it was a 3 team trade and it was CP3 to the Lakers. Kevin Martin (avging 23ppg) Odom, Luis scola (avging 18ppg), and a young dragic to the hornets. Pau and a first and 2nd pick to the rockets. The hornets are literally winning this whole trade.
Mark Cuban didnt want Kobe to surpass MJ. He had nothing to say about Lebron and Durant making super teams. League had it out for Kobe, even gave his mvp to Nash
This is my mind bugging. To my knowledge, it was because Stern and Cuban had been salty because he didn't get Kobe in 07. We didn't know all about all of those players. Imagine having 5-7 Allstars players with the Lakers. WOW. 07 AS WELL they had a traded for Bron straight up for Kobe, but Kobe decided not to go that to that shit hole. His words, lol
Actually Gil is right in the highest paid player in the league in 06/07 was KG at 21 million in his second to last year of his deal. Guys like Amare, Pierce, TMAC, Vince, and Lebron we’re making less than 15 million. Kobe home self only made 17 that year and it was his 2nd to last year of his deal. Typically NBA deal increase by about 5 - 8 million dollars yearly over the course of the contract so it’s possible to only have a 12-15 million dollar cap hit for a max player back then. Contracts now are just super inflated. The overall salary cap has double since then which is why max contracts are at about 30 mil now(excluding super max deals)
Kobe actually said they were trying to get melo with that extra 24 mil from Denver along with cp3. NBA said no melo went to the knicks cp3 went to the clippers
Even if the rest didn't happen the way Arenas is stating. Lakers would have had a still prime Kobe with a prime CP3 and Howard. This easily cost the Lakers and Kobe at least 1 more title. Having those players would have reduced the pressure on Kobe and likely never would have ruptured his achilles which destroyed the last 3 years of his career.
What happened is they didn't want the lakers to continue winning titles they wanted to see some variety some mix up in the contention. Unfortunately kobe paid the price could have had 6 or 7 rings. Kobe also paid the price in mvp due to the Colorado incident bc anybody who knows anything know mvp has never went to the best player of most valuable player of the season it went based on politics and an assemblence of those things.
i thought i also remember seeing something about Stern, the league, who were running the New Orleans team at the time and other owners wanting to stick it to Chris Paul who was the NBPA president at the time and obviously got the players more money.
Each owner owned 1/29th of the Pelicans at the time. Dan Gilbert and Cuban led the "No" charge. The thing is that this was the first major deal after the lockout, which was all about smaller markets getting their talent poached by bigger markets. I think the timing of it is what did them in ultimately.
I think the value of the Hornets without CP3 made a difference to the on league on the sale of the team. That has to factor in at least a portion of it too
According to Jeanie buss the trade was a done deal, the teams value didn’t matter. When the other owners got wind of basically the “secret negotiations”they were upset because they weren’t able to make their own offers.
Jim Buss and the Lakers FO deserve their flowers and an apology from fans. That’s fucking crazy what they almost pulled off it weren’t for Mark Cuban bitching and moaning
Too bad half of what he says doesn’t make sense or is a flat out lie. The man establishes that 24 is the max then proceeds to say the lakers could clear 24m and add 2 max players.
Nba didn't want Kobe to tie or surpass Jordan LeBron was still ringless History was tainted CP3 was projected the next Isiah Thomas that backcourt was scary of Kobe and CP3 they never lost a Allstar Game the NBA also destroyed Jim Buss future legacy Jerry Buss never gave his daughter Jeanie ownership of the team everything was disgusting from that veto!
I knew it was more than da NBA was letting on.. they didn't want a super team! Now that's all we have.. this is a testimony of how GREAT Kobe was! They KNEW not to make that trade, Kobe woulda had rings on rings!
The only thing I don't necessarily agree on is the 2 max players starting at 12 million. When the Heat got their big 3 I'm pretty sure all three started at 18-20 million the first year of the deals. But, still a CP3, Kobe, LBJ and Dwight would have been terrifying.
He really wasn't saying they were going to go get lebron and Bosh he was just saying they would have had a lot more money to spend they would have use that money roll players I did here Kobe say one time if the Paul trade would happen it was going to clear up a lot of cap space he didn't go into detail how
LeBron and Bosh signed 6 year $110 million dollar deals. Starting at $14.5 million with a opt out clause after 5 years. Wade took a little less. It’s crazy cause a little more than 10 years after they signed those deals those same max contracts are more than double with 5 years.
That trade changed Kobe’s career, because we had to settle for Nash who got hurt and Dwight who it seemed didn’t fit. Which caused Kobe to play the most min in the league and try to get to the playoffs thus causing his injury
The Lakers where going to send Odom who was an all-star and Pau Gasol another all star for cp3 wtf u on lol. Please don't tell me the package the clips sent was better. Their was an agenda in place
Anyone saying the league didn’t want Kobe to get 6 is so fking dumb! He was the poster boy🤦🏽♂️ the nba marketed Kobe to everyone that he was the best, they’d want him to win as much as possible, the series against the Sacramento Kings is enough to show you that
His math doesn’t make sense at all, 12mil doesn’t get you a Lebron or Bosh unless they want to take the absolute minimum value. If they did get CP and DH, that 24m can get them a few shooters at best. It would have been a dominant team on paper but we saw what the 2012 Lakers were and those trades fcked the Lakers up for a decade.
Go look at their contract in 2010-2011. Lebron and bosh salary was 14.5m while in Miami heat. U think one wouldn’t be tempted to take a 2.5m pay cut to play with cp3 kobe and Howard? So it’s totally possible if they aren’t in the heat already.
The 2012 lakers was a fiasco because most of them were in their last legs and past prime. Now imagine that lakers with 2 more young super stars joining kobe Howard and cp3/Nash lol. And like Gilbert said when kobe contract was over, they have another 24m over. They could fill that void with another young superstar. Lakers would most likely dominate the 2010s.
@@yw3178 they both signed multi year deals north of 110m, i think the math worked out to roughly 18-19 mil per year. Might be a little less early but thats just more cap penalty in later years. On top of that you would need to restructure both Kobe and Howard’s contract otherwise that luxury tax bill will be through the roof.
Kobe had his chances. He's been to 7 finals . He just didn't capitalize on his opportunities and end up with a 5-2 finals record. Its noone else fault but his....
Sure it's positive, more than 70% winning percentage. He's one of the GOATS. What I am saying is that fans are complaining that David Stern stop Kobe from winning more than 5 ships because he blocked the Chris Paul trade. That's a false narrative because the late great Kobe was in the finals 7 times, it was just unfortunate he didn't win it all. Therefore they need to stop blaming other people if he didn't win more than 5. But he's still in my top 5 above LBJ....
Definitely a heartbreaking situation bc Kobe was still top on the league. As a die hard lakers fan I was really angry. This is coming from a guy that can wear lakers jackets 7 days a week and lakers hats.
What more evidence/narrative do you want to make it “legitimate”? Gilbert was an all star player, hearing and seeing the cap space story happen in real time, sure he probably left a few things here and there or spoke a little too much for others, but do you want David stern to come out himself and explain a trade that happened 14 years ago to you 1 on 1 so you can fully grasp it?
@@TheFrostySpeciali remember getting the notification on my phone that CP3 was a laker. Few hours later David Stern vetoed the trade. Gilbert’s story makes sense to me 🤷🏽♂️
Dam bro didn't know it went that deep 😂 7 max caliber players would be hilarious to see together, ultra mega super team
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fucking Bill Russell Celtics type shit 😂
Damn this is freaking insane
GILBERT IS LYING. THE LAKERS WOULD NOT HAVE 7 MAX PLAYERS. A MAX CONTRACT BACK THEN WAS 22-24M. IDK WHY HE KEEPS SAYING IT WAS 12M. IN ONE SENTANCE HE SAID KOBE WAS MAKING 24M THEN HE SAID IF THEY GET RID OF HIM THEY'D GET 2 MAX PLAYERS IN RETURN... HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. HALF THE STUFF HE SAYS IS GENIUS AND THE OTHER HALF IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT. LIKE THE ONE TIME HE SAID POWER FOWARDS IN THE 90s WERE 6'4"
@@camerondrain8166 A power forward was. chuck thats prolly what he said
Jeannie Bus said if her brother would have listened and not reported the trade until she got back from meeting with the owners, the trade would have went through.
Glad she is running things now. Her brother was a hothead
damn I've never heard that before and I'm a big time Lakers fan
@@AndrewEvenstar yea on all the smoke
Sabotage Jim Buss was so desperate to prove his worth to his dad he screwed up everything! What a punk!
Her brother has done more to hurt the Lakers than Roman Roy for Waystar.
As a lakers fan I’ve never got over the cp3 trade not happening. This just made me even more mad , I didn’t know this scenario 🤣🤣🤣 thanks Gil 😭😭😭
After how CP3 is with the Suns and Clippers, I wonder if CP3 will start drama with other players in the Laker roster at the time. Everywhere he goes, drama seem to follow him.
Likewise man.
@@240TechGuy being on teams that had racist or sexist owners is not Chris Paul's doing... he did nothing to expose or bring drama to those teams
All I got was they was hating on Kobe and the lakers and blew Chris chance at a ring
Factual data
Gil is one of my favorite players to listen to. Hes seen every era, played in the league at a high level, had some legendary teammates, and has his own individual classic stories like the bringing a gun into the locker room. lmao happy hes here to share with us.
Yeah but his reason for bringing the gun… wasn’t it because his teammate wouldn’t pay a gambling bet or something like that? He went from top player in the league, then almost like Antonio Brown in the NFL, did a bunch of crazy shit and poof, out of the league!
@@edwardnigma4087 yeah he made a ignorant mistake. Luckily he’s doing amazing now !
@@trilla3817 I’m glad he’s on the right track, maybe someone like him can reach out to Ja Morant and offer some advice.
He's a BS azz clown 🤡 trying to stay relevant.
Thank you Gil. I was in middle school when this traded got vetoed. I’m a grown man 29 yrs old…Can’t believe it took this long to FULLY UNDERSTAND this whole fiasco 😅
Being in middle school at 17 yrs old is crazy work
Bruh I was in middle schoo when that happen how is u 29 I was like 13
High school*
@@drestackz1158 facts && im 25 😂😂😂😂
Your math not making sense.
Pau was supposed to go to the rockets with that deal and all the players in the deal that was canceled spoiled the chemistry. That year was so brutal
yep
Facts
And we still a had to trade Odom smh
Yea Pau to Houston,Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Odom we’re going to the hornets plus draft picks. And all the lakers would get was CP, such bullshit it was vetoed cuz the clippers got cp3 for mf eric Gordon and buncha scrubs. Good job David stern
@@RariShiesty that ruined us
You got an actual former NBA player to speak out in detail about a controversy that has never been spoken out in the public. Not even ESPN could do that.
Bravo to you sir. 👏
Take Gilbert arenas with a grain of salt
No Chill Gil doesn’t care and keeps it real.
Hell yea. Gil a treasure
Gilbert plays by his own rules march to his own beat. Love this dude.
Genie bus did the interview about it
Mark Cuban said hell nah turn the trade negotiations sliders up 😂😂
Lmfao
yooooo lol
Put EVERYTHING on max😂
Shark tank lol
He got that shark in him 😭😭😭
Idc what anyone says , if the trade would've went through , Kobe wouldn't of had to exert himself so much with having more help like cp3 , this would've gave him more longevity to his career and not getting hurt.
So all of a sudden CP3 gonna stay healthy in the playoffs?
@@gardybanks6738 Chill😂😂
Even if he didn’t you would have Arenas as a back up.
@@gardybanks6738 good possibility, as Kobe also helps takes a burden off CP3.
Not true
Unfortunately for us Laker fans it was The perfect Storm. The league had literally just taken over the Hornets. Had the trade gone down with any other team there would have been less of a chance that this could have happened but because the commissioner was directly involved in the day-to-day operations of the Hornets every other owner was looking at him and would blame him... Don't forget David Stern was also in the last years of his tenure with the NBA so he knew he couldn't leave Adam Silver with 28 angry owners and a Laker team that would dominate the league for the next 10 years...
LeBron James got away with these trades and tampering smh
@@nature-kv3xe lebron is just a player not a Gm or owner, and he’s never been involved with a trade as a player.
@nature93 you do realize a player can't trade any players lol smh you sound out of touch old man
@@MeaCulpa04 you’re lying to yourself
@@SlanditTheBandit based on what?
Congratulations on landing this interview! Man you've come far, keep up the grind bro
They didn’t wanna see Kobe at 6 the whole nba narrative would’ve change
6 7 8 9 10 🤣
Exactly. Jordan has made more money for nba than some top players combined
Facts
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They removed illegal defense after Lakers pretty much swept everyone in the 2001 playoffs. Lakers would've won 6 straight in the 2000s.
These type of collabs and heat check hitting a mill this year
Kobe could of won at least 7 or 8 chips if the CP3 trade would of happened. Also, No way Jerry Buss would of let Kobe walked. He was the best Player in the league.
not around that time lebron and kd new passed kobe in 2012
@@Rambo20244 passing someone doesn't mean anything when you're still a top 5 Player. Kobe would of had ballers around him. Good luck beating him.
The Lakers were way too committed to Kobe to let him go (at least prior to his Achilles injury). Maybe if he tore his Achilles at that time, it could have happened. But that was 3 years after. The Lakers is a FAMILY owned team, and they treat their players like a family owned team... so with Kobe's committment for 17 years I don't see them getting rid of him. Think about it... in 2010, Lebron had not one a SINGLE title. Why would they drop a proven champion for Lebron, who keeps losing in the east??? Just wouldn't have happened.
Gilbert Arenas is the TK Kirkland of basketball 🏀 😂
Facts!!!! 😂😂😂
im uncultured. please elaborate
Real nigga comment 😂😂. Damn
Wait what? You got Gilbert Arenas on the call?! Nice
Happy to see my fave channel leveling up!
Dang so basically if Mark Cuban didn't say something the NBA would have been screwed
Warriors would’ve still owned them 😂
@@Grievous_ I mean as long as Kobe got his 6th ring…
@@Grievous_ assuming with the different landscape somehow the warriors would still choose Curry. Butterfly effect my friend
@@Grievous_ you must be on crack.
@@Red-xd3fg I totally agree, @Grievous is one of those who do not think thoroughly before saying or writing something
I've always heard the rumor that if CP3 went to the lakers, it would give the lakers a huge advantage, but i never understood why until today watching this video. I wasn't even thinking about the potential money the Lakers would have had remaining after the trade. I would love to peek into an alternate timeline where this went through...
AS a day, one Laker fan, I would too‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
@manmann55 you can still visit that timeline. Just take a ticket @The TVA (Time variant Authority) hand it to Dr Strange and wala...
@@moralhazard2563nice joke
His version of events is probably pretty accurate, but...if there's 1 thing Gilbert gonna do, it's make every story about Gilbert.
Damn instead of CP3 going to the Los Angeles Lakers he went to the sad flippers and won nothing. If he went to the Lakers at least one or two rings wow
The trade was vetoed
@@Quietplague2000 no shit sherlock
You never know. How sure you are kobe will love chris paul..
Well this his best year to do it. He better jump on that Durant train and make it count.
@@jasontan7920 the fact that he’s a hard worker, tries to improve his game and plays defense. That’s how you know Kobe will love Chris Paul.
Heat Check moving up. NICE
Thanks Mr. Heat Check and Gilbert Arenas for finaly know what actualy happend
This is great collaboration I like it. Keep it up
This is not what happened lol Gill is making himself seem more important.Jeanie Buss has already said what actually happened
Don't believe Gil with this story. He's making up sh*t
Truth be told had the NBA let this happen the league would be so different today
The league is already different
@@LA562mike did you read what he said?
@@HoweyJR_ lol
@@OVOChatgpt lol
They didn't want kobe with 7-8 rings. That's why he had animosity towards shaq. If shaq would of had the mind set of wanting to be the best center he clearly could have in that new style area back in 1996-2006 but nope. Lakers took care of Kobe bc of how they did him not pulling that man off the floor and his goals to get to the playoffs his last 5 seasons. He had to much of a load to carry.
NBA EVEN STIRRED DRAMA TO BREAK THEM UP… That’s apart of the “THEY didn’t want Kobe with 7-8 rings”
And if they had won 7 rings it's obvious as well the measuring stick would be Kobe instead of Jordan it's as the league is indebted to Jordan and holds that in high regard. It makes sense even with lebron because if lebron had won that many Jordan would be forgotten this has many layers to it
He just told you that nobody was thinking about Kobe. LOL. Kill the myth already.
Shaq mind set was great. His career would have been over a lot sooner if he worked like kobe. He was getting hit so much that the refs said the game would last 4hrs if they called ever hard foul. HBO max has a great doc on shaq to show why things turned out the way they did.
7-8 lol relax dude...they would have been lucky to even get one...Kobe was old already...and Dwight had back issues...but man for sure maybe one ring
Lakers taking care of Kobe at the end got them Lebron. The way they are taking care of Lebron and Klutch will bring them another star when that time comes.
no it didn't ‼️🤣💯💯
@@jqualls7901 prolly not but no way he go to Lakers if they dog Kobe out towards the end... Kobe/magic was major factors
@@jqualls7901 Fucking NBA insider over here.
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 facts, magic went to lebron house to get him to sign the deal, they even had pics online of lebron and magic with the contract they both touching which i think lakers took down, and kobe was quoted saying he talked to lebron on the phone and gave him his blessings before he signed.. this is why lebron was so mad when magic stepped down and he was so anxious to play in the bubble and bring LA a title after kobe died because the 2 people that brought him to the lakers were no longer around the organization, magic still doesnt go around them like that, he will talk about them very good on espn but he stepped far away
🤡 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yo u in a live with Gilbert?? U leveling in up. Mad respect Bro.
Not even a Lakers fan, and I always wondered what happened in that trade. Wow, thanks Gil😅. Gil was always there
Listening to gilbert; it's always "his truth," instead of maybe 💯% truth
@@cincinnatias Yes, he's full of it. I'd heard via a podcast (Paul Shirley) around 2012, that despite Chris Paul having great respect for Kobe, he didn't want to play with him; information that Shirley had heard about. People always get on Stern about blocking that trade, but that's the only logical reason that he would have done so. Even if the NBA owned and were running the Hornets (Pelicans) at that time, didn't mean that they weren't going to allow any trades; especially if it benefited the Hornets. Think about it, they (the NBA) still wound up trading CP3 to the Clippers shortly after, while they were still operating the team.
On top of this, it's not like the NBA doesn't have a history of bending over backwards to make something work for the Lakers. Anthony Davis. Shaq. Kareem. Howard. Pau Gasol. Kobe, to an extent, as he didn't want to play for Charlotte in '96, but the Lakers were one of two teams that he wanted to play for.
They banned it cus they ain’t want Kobe winning 6 or 7
Cuban despises the Lakers
He legit just say it was deeper then that. If it had been to any other team just coming off a back to back that was a major market, it's the same story.
But the let lebron go to the heat NBA didn't like Kobe after the rape charge
Facts!!
Faccs
I love how Gilbert is self aware to where he knew his contract was an absolute albatross.
Kobe would’ve had 6 or 7 but they wanted the bron era to begin
Facts
No
@@AortizM3 yes
He just said they would have had cap room and had a chance to sign Lebron too so your point not valid.
@@justincase9337 what does that have to do with anything. U not even makin sense
Next mission: Ask Allen Iverson about the time when the refs literally decided they weren't going to call a foul on him
Yessssssirrrr
Since we talking...
Was that the infamous bucks vs 6ers game
Crazy how so many stories are behind the scenes. Laker nation we can cry again together 😭
This truth bomb hurts even more. Thank you Gilbert for clearing it up for us.
Yes
Thanks my G for giving us insight on what goes on in the league. It so great were that guy so no can say shit about your game. More Blessings my brother 🙏
As a Mav Fan. THANK YOU GIL! without that "incident" we do not get Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood, and DeShawn Stevenson. 2011 Champion Catalyst Players.
That was after the title run
@@zo62 December 2009
In his new memoir, Tuff Juice: My Journey from the Streets to the NBA, veteran Caron Butler recounted the now-infamous incident between Gilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenton in December 2009, when the two teammates with the Washington Wizards brought guns into the locker room.
@@aaronm8552 oh you were referring to that I was thinking about the trade he was talking about
Hahahha
Caron butler was injured he ain’t even really play for us
But it was still good to have him on the team
Yeah man, the CP trade was something I never got over as a fan
This is 🧢
Mark Cuban wasnt the one making the fuss it was Dan Gilbert from the Cavs who penned a letter about the trade and how the Lakers would still save while getting CP3
Next 12M (said 24M is 2 max contracts)...The heatles signed a yr before and their contracts were 14.5M with them taking less at the time.
Also they wouldnt have signed Lebron because he signed a 4yr deal with miami yr before. There wasnt really a big free agency class like the years before with melo and then amare, bosh, wade, lebron.
Exactly bro this guy telling fairy tales..Straight 🧢
We are not believing you bruh bruh
Teams could only amnesty their own player too so from the beginning he was making shit up
Bruh you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about and you clearly didn’t pay attention to what Gilbert said at all😂 First of all, there were multiple owners who opposed, and complained about the Chris Paul trade, and Mark Cuban was one of them. You can literally go back and look at the reports from 2011. And Gilbert stated multiple times that he wasn’t talking about the Lakers signing LeBron. He said the Lakers could sign all star caliber help with the money left over. Bruh said it so many times, you gotta be slow in the head
Everyone glossing over your comment. This guy was spitting a ton of cap.
Something not making since about Gils story. The caliber player Kobe was the lakers never was thinking of trading him.
Sounds like NBA Live 10 with the trade decline setting off 😭😭
😢 When you a die hard Lakers fan hearing this in 2023!!
Painful lol! Mark cuban is a hoe for that
Great interview Stefan. Good you imagine 5 mvp level players on the same team. That would have been absolutely insane
Would have been ridiculous to see
Because it would have never happened. Gilbert is all over the place, but not in reality.
I was still mad that this trade didn't go through because that and the couple years that followed (injuries too) robbed Kobe of at least 1 more ring. But I didn't know it was this grand of a scheme. That team with or without Kobe could have potentially repeated. Don't think they'd have won a bunch though because you still had the Warriors coming in the mid and late 2010s, the Cavs & the Heat (since he said Bron was already there). But on paper it would be remarkable.
Dude with that line up the Warriors would not be winning no championship.
@@melvincarter9640 With what lineup? He used Bron & Bosh as an example. Those 2 were already in Miami so which other 2 free agent players you'd find that time that would make a better or similar pairing? Howard had a bad back and was never the same player in the years that followed & CP is a pass first PG & Kobe was done after 2013. On paper it looks good but when you really think about it the extreme most they'd have won in the 2010s decade is probably 2. And that is me being generous because 2011 is likely the only genuine shot at making a final. Kobe wouldn't offer much after 2013 due to injuries and there is no equivalent player to that guy at that time on the market. Only LeBron and he wasn't available.
@@diegobromfield either one of those line up would have beaten the Warriors dude. LeBron , Kobe , Howard , Bosh and CP would have blown the doors off the Warriors.
@@diegobromfield I don't think you know what you're talking about. If the Lakers pulled out that trade things would have been a lot different the Warriors had no answer for a team like that. Hell CP was given the Warriors hell when he was with the Rockets, LeBron was in his prime and so was Bosh, as for Kobe he still was putting up work and so was Howard.
@@diegobromfield Are you stupid? Prime Kobe and Prime CP3 over steph and klay it's not even a debate.
Interesting how Cuban called foul play on that and then ends up winning a chip right after....
I heard a conspiracy that mavs won cuz nba owed them from 06 and I’m sure u know what I’m talking Bout. But word of mouf is Cuban was gone expose LeRoids ped use 🤷🏾♂️
Real shit 🤨
No this trade happened after the Mavs won the finals
If cp3 went to la, Kobe probably still playing till his 40. He probably might be alive today.
Na he’s where he belong
@IamGrandMagus what energy? I won’t risk my kids life to get to practice quicker
@@HoweyJR_he’s where he belongs according to who?
@@pensivepoet3281 the creator of thought. That’s who mf
@@HoweyJR_wtf is you talking bout risking his kids life that’s everyday life for them getting on that helicopter he bought it for a reason that’s like saying if you crash your car you rushed karma gone get you boy
Just imagine a team with Kobe, CP3, Gilbert Arenas and Dwight. Boy that would have been a squad.
Gil was washed that's why Orlando was desperate to get rid of his contract
@@trashboat4020 Also, Dwight blew out his back in LA.
@@directedbydon also Dwight averages close to 20points and a less workload with cp3 feeding him
The Lakers where going to immediately waive Gil and use that 24 million in salary cap space to go after LeBron or KD or Bosh or any other max players. It would have been team USA in LA. We kinda got that in Golden State for 4 years but this would have been even more crazy
@Directed by Don Dwight's back was already messed up. He just played through it and had the surgery in LA. Because he played through it so long, he had issues again in Houston. Thats the reason I thought James Harden got robbed by Steph for MVP. He played half the season without Dwight.
That’s essentially what ended up happening with the Warriors getting Steph locked in for 4 years $44 million during his breakout and having enough room to sigh KD
The league owned the hornets at the time so the owners collectively were literally the ones with the power to block the trade. If Tom benson had owned the team at the time it wouldn’t have mattered what Cuban said. And the trade didn’t send either Odom or Gasol to New Orleans. Odom asked to go to Dallas and Gasol was going to Houston. The hornets were getting all of the rockets role players
New Orleans would have received Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic, Lamar Odom re-routed for a 1st, future picks. They would have had a fairly competitive team they already had Emeka Okafor, Carl Landry, Jarret Jack, Trevor Ariza, Marco Belinelli. After the Veto NOLA had talks with GSW, they would have received Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson if Chris Paul agreed to an extension.
@@aslan4196 no it wouldn’t have. They would have been a first round exit at best. Why should the team given up the best player get the role player and not at least Gasol. Lakers fans swear that was great. And yeah Paul vetoed the trade for Curry..that’s why I’m glad they blocked that trade
@@mont-doggBeats they still got shit from lac
@@Hitch_49 true
My advice is to watch Jeanie Buss explain why it didn’t go thru. It’s the more valid reason …. The only reason the other owners were upset was because they didn’t get the opportunity to properly give their own trade packages put together….
Gilbert has been and always will be my favorite player lol I’m a Washington fan but he’s given so much entertainment
As a laker this hurts hearing we could’ve won more then those 2/3 😢
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too foreverm
Bynum woulda left and idk if CP and Kobe is enough. Gasol is stupid underrated.
@@AngelPerezComedy Gasol was old by then and wasn't a difference maker. CP3 would've fed Dwight and kept him happy his been known for making bigs look better than they were and Dwight was a beast.
Thats all Dr. Buss cared about... He was too savy of an owner, and was good at making deals where no one else thought or saw what was possible
Y’all lakers fans already have like 18 chips y’all don’t need no more lol
The reason The New Orleans Hornets didn't have an owner is because the previous owner was about to file bankruptcy.
If he had done that, it would have devalued every franchise in the NBA.
The NBA took over the team to prevent that from happening and it was looking to find someone who would buy the team.
The NBA thought that by trading Chris Paul, their best player, the value of the team would decrease and it would hurt the franchise values of the other 29 owners.
The trade was vetoed so that any potential buyer would have, at least, one superstar.
It was all about money for all the teams.
For those who understand, it's like real estate. If someone in my neighborhood sells their house for a cheap price, it will hurt the value of my home.
Someone who gets it. That trade was awful for NOLA. "Why wouldn't the NBA want Gasol and Odom on their team?" WTF would the NBA do with that?? Gasol needed kobe, a system and would end up declining physically anyway. Odom LITERALLY lost his mind because he was traded and his career imploded.
Can everything that Gil is saying be true on the business end, absolutely. But it wasn't some anti-laker conspiracy. If NOLA was privately owned and the GM made that trade, they'd be fired immediately. It was horrible.
Well it was a 3 team trade and it was CP3 to the Lakers. Kevin Martin (avging 23ppg) Odom, Luis scola (avging 18ppg), and a young dragic to the hornets. Pau and a first and 2nd pick to the rockets. The hornets are literally winning this whole trade.
Then why did Cp get traded to clippers a little bit after that
@@ilgizmamedov2147 if you lose the best player in any trade, you automatically lose that trade. That’s how it works.
@@tellmesomthin12 man you need to think. Look what they got in return. Bunch of young top picks for cheaps and a future top pick. Better deal than LAL
Mark Cuban didnt want Kobe to surpass MJ. He had nothing to say about Lebron and Durant making super teams. League had it out for Kobe, even gave his mvp to Nash
He said Cuban wasn’t worried that they was getting cp3 it’s that they would have enough money to get 3 more players for max deals
You sound like those weird Kobe nut-huggers from Insidehoops. Lmfao. That's such a wild take lmfao.
This is my mind bugging. To my knowledge, it was because Stern and Cuban had been salty because he didn't get Kobe in 07. We didn't know all about all of those players. Imagine having 5-7 Allstars players with the Lakers. WOW.
07 AS WELL they had a traded for Bron straight up for Kobe, but Kobe decided not to go that to that shit hole. His words, lol
Who would? Lebron in that cavs team, I’m surprise they win 60+ games that season.
5-7 ALL SARS WAS NOT HAPPENING. A MAX CONTRACT WAS 20M BACK THEN NOT 12M. IDK WTF GIL IS TALKING ABOUT IN THIS VIDEO
@@camerondrain8166 he just likes to talk
Actually Gil is right in the highest paid player in the league in 06/07 was KG at 21 million in his second to last year of his deal.
Guys like Amare, Pierce, TMAC, Vince, and Lebron we’re making less than 15 million. Kobe home self only made 17 that year and it was his 2nd to last year of his deal.
Typically NBA deal increase by about 5 - 8 million dollars yearly over the course of the contract so it’s possible to only have a 12-15 million dollar cap hit for a max player back then.
Contracts now are just super inflated. The overall salary cap has double since then which is why max contracts are at about 30 mil now(excluding super max deals)
Without knowing this information every Laker fan knew the Lakers would destroy the league if Kobe and cp3 linked up
Looking good Gil. You were starting to look like John Bagley Steve Francis and puff AI.
got no idea if i can believe gilbert man lmao he convincing though
Kobe actually said they were trying to get melo with that extra 24 mil from Denver along with cp3. NBA said no melo went to the knicks cp3 went to the clippers
Even if the rest didn't happen the way Arenas is stating. Lakers would have had a still prime Kobe with a prime CP3 and Howard. This easily cost the Lakers and Kobe at least 1 more title. Having those players would have reduced the pressure on Kobe and likely never would have ruptured his achilles which destroyed the last 3 years of his career.
What happened is they didn't want the lakers to continue winning titles they wanted to see some variety some mix up in the contention. Unfortunately kobe paid the price could have had 6 or 7 rings. Kobe also paid the price in mvp due to the Colorado incident bc anybody who knows anything know mvp has never went to the best player of most valuable player of the season it went based on politics and an assemblence of those things.
You're way off.
Mannnnn this just pisses me off 😭 had the deal gone through we coulda witnessed the best team ever assembled LOL
Gonna need some Khan Academy style animations to understand why Lakers would have ended up with so much cash after that trade.
The luxury tax was that punitive yet. So Lakers would have just paid it in exchange for top players.
i thought i also remember seeing something about Stern, the league, who were running the New Orleans team at the time and other owners wanting to stick it to Chris Paul who was the NBPA president at the time and obviously got the players more money.
Each owner owned 1/29th of the Pelicans at the time. Dan Gilbert and Cuban led the "No" charge. The thing is that this was the first major deal after the lockout, which was all about smaller markets getting their talent poached by bigger markets. I think the timing of it is what did them in ultimately.
There were a lot of factors, but the main reason was because the League didn't want to witness the possible reemergence of the Khan Dynasty😂
I think the value of the Hornets without CP3 made a difference to the on league on the sale of the team. That has to factor in at least a portion of it too
That is a true statement also. And be that as it may, I recall that being the primary justification used as it was an available one 🤔
@@SSJQ456 I felt like this wasn't said enough when it happened, but I was younger and might not have caught on to it
You know....there's actually a 2X whammy from this salivating transaction.....Dynasty and Destruction resulting in Feast and Famine 🫣🫨🤯🙉
According to Jeanie buss the trade was a done deal, the teams value didn’t matter. When the other owners got wind of basically the “secret negotiations”they were upset because they weren’t able to make their own offers.
Jim Buss and the Lakers FO deserve their flowers and an apology from fans. That’s fucking crazy what they almost pulled off it weren’t for Mark Cuban bitching and moaning
Gilbert is literally talking himself into history at this point.
Gil probably got SOOOOO MUCH insider news like whats really is going that he can’t go into publicly until some time passes
Too bad half of what he says doesn’t make sense or is a flat out lie. The man establishes that 24 is the max then proceeds to say the lakers could clear 24m and add 2 max players.
This vetoed trade still upsets me. Jim Buss would have been legendary if that move stuck.
Kobe still went to the Finals three years in a row and went 2 and three what did they stop? LA is always going to be in the mix.🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Gil looking like Agent Zero right now good shit bro👌🏾👍🏾💪🏾
That makes sense because by that logic that Lakers team would have been ridiculously good for years
Nba didn't want Kobe to tie or surpass Jordan LeBron was still ringless History was tainted CP3 was projected the next Isiah Thomas that backcourt was scary of Kobe and CP3 they never lost a Allstar Game the NBA also destroyed Jim Buss future legacy Jerry Buss never gave his daughter Jeanie ownership of the team everything was disgusting from that veto!
I knew it was more than da NBA was letting on.. they didn't want a super team! Now that's all we have.. this is a testimony of how GREAT Kobe was! They KNEW not to make that trade, Kobe woulda had rings on rings!
bro heat check’s interviewing gilbert arenas? bros come a long way, congratulations to you
So cp3, Kobe and a prime dwight😮 boi that shit would not be fair
The only thing I don't necessarily agree on is the 2 max players starting at 12 million. When the Heat got their big 3 I'm pretty sure all three started at 18-20 million the first year of the deals. But, still a CP3, Kobe, LBJ and Dwight would have been terrifying.
He really wasn't saying they were going to go get lebron and Bosh he was just saying they would have had a lot more money to spend they would have use that money roll players I did here Kobe say one time if the Paul trade would happen it was going to clear up a lot of cap space he didn't go into detail how
No. They all took less to team up. Bron was at 12-13 million starting and that wasn’t much less than max back then
@@michaelbaez9164 I'm pretty sure he was closer to 15 starting. Maybe 18 is the average I was thinking of.
LeBron and Bosh signed 6 year $110 million dollar deals. Starting at $14.5 million with a opt out clause after 5 years. Wade took a little less. It’s crazy cause a little more than 10 years after they signed those deals those same max contracts are more than double with 5 years.
If I see Kobe, Chris Paul & Dwight, I'd gladly take 1-3 million less to create a dynasty easy.
The politics of the NBA were evident when this possible trade could of happened .
That trade changed Kobe’s career, because we had to settle for Nash who got hurt and Dwight who it seemed didn’t fit. Which caused Kobe to play the most min in the league and try to get to the playoffs thus causing his injury
You are skipping the front office picking dantoni over Phil Jackson
Ball hogging
Ain’t no max player signing for 12 million. Also Jerry Buss would under no circumstances trade Kobe in 2011!
Gil is insane 😂 mf act like it was 94 😂 pippen signing 10 million a year was bad even back then 😂 😂 😂
They only had 4 million in cap space with all 3. 54 combined salary, cap was 58. Huh
People are forgetting the fact that New Orleans pelicans needed a buyer and trading away CP three would hurt the value that’s why it was Vito
but he got traded to the clippers anyway shortly after, what are you talking about.
The Lakers where going to send Odom who was an all-star and Pau Gasol another all star for cp3 wtf u on lol. Please don't tell me the package the clips sent was better. Their was an agenda in place
This gets more painful each time I hear about it again. You think you can get over these things.... 😂😞
it’s crazy cuz there’s so many superstars on each team now
Finally somebody fully explained it… ✊🏾❤️
Sounds like a lotta cap from Gilbert
If they had that many stars kobe probably wouldnt have gotten hurt n played longer
Exactly
Bynum pre trade waw amazing
Anyone wants to tell him you couldnt amnesty a player you traded for?
Anyone saying the league didn’t want Kobe to get 6 is so fking dumb! He was the poster boy🤦🏽♂️ the nba marketed Kobe to everyone that he was the best, they’d want him to win as much as possible, the series against the Sacramento Kings is enough to show you that
His math doesn’t make sense at all, 12mil doesn’t get you a Lebron or Bosh unless they want to take the absolute minimum value. If they did get CP and DH, that 24m can get them a few shooters at best. It would have been a dominant team on paper but we saw what the 2012 Lakers were and those trades fcked the Lakers up for a decade.
Go look at their contract in 2010-2011. Lebron and bosh salary was 14.5m while in Miami heat. U think one wouldn’t be tempted to take a 2.5m pay cut to play with cp3 kobe and Howard? So it’s totally possible if they aren’t in the heat already.
The 2012 lakers was a fiasco because most of them were in their last legs and past prime. Now imagine that lakers with 2 more young super stars joining kobe Howard and cp3/Nash lol. And like Gilbert said when kobe contract was over, they have another 24m over. They could fill that void with another young superstar. Lakers would most likely dominate the 2010s.
@@yw3178 they both signed multi year deals north of 110m, i think the math worked out to roughly 18-19 mil per year. Might be a little less early but thats just more cap penalty in later years. On top of that you would need to restructure both Kobe and Howard’s contract otherwise that luxury tax bill will be through the roof.
@@yw3178 you forgot that lebron was more worried about his legacy in 2011. Him joining the lakers would destroy that.
@@davidl242 nope they all played for 16 million (wade, bron, bosh)..
That would've been the nastiest team ever. CRAZY talent.
The reason:
David Stern wanted to give a ring to LeBron
It’s always better hearing from an insider that way you as a fan get far more clarity
Mark knew Mavs was not gonna get past Lakers 😂
He lost me when he said "Do you need Kobe at that point"
Do you tho? That team winning regardless, it's just next level with kobe on it
Bro, imagine Kobe with 6-8 rings 😭
Kobe had his chances. He's been to 7 finals . He just didn't capitalize on his opportunities and end up with a 5-2 finals record. Its noone else fault but his....
@@jamesfrancois1727 you say that like his record is negative or something his won 5 outta 7 that's damn good if you ask me
Sure it's positive, more than 70% winning percentage. He's one of the GOATS. What I am saying is that fans are complaining that David Stern stop Kobe from winning more than 5 ships because he blocked the Chris Paul trade. That's a false narrative because the late great Kobe was in the finals 7 times, it was just unfortunate he didn't win it all. Therefore they need to stop blaming other people if he didn't win more than 5. But he's still in my top 5 above LBJ....
Whose this Paul Gasol guy Gilbert keeps mentioning
The world need to hear this
Definitely a heartbreaking situation bc Kobe was still top on the league. As a die hard lakers fan I was really angry. This is coming from a guy that can wear lakers jackets 7 days a week and lakers hats.
Can anyone or any source confirm Gil's story. No disrespect but how do I know what Gil says is really true?
What more evidence/narrative do you want to make it “legitimate”? Gilbert was an all star player, hearing and seeing the cap space story happen in real time, sure he probably left a few things here and there or spoke a little too much for others, but do you want David stern to come out himself and explain a trade that happened 14 years ago to you 1 on 1 so you can fully grasp it?
@@JawnInsight cause people lie dawg especially Gilbert 😂
@@TheFrostySpeciali remember getting the notification on my phone that CP3 was a laker. Few hours later David Stern vetoed the trade. Gilbert’s story makes sense to me 🤷🏽♂️
Duhh they chris paul was post to go to the laker he whine up on the clippers l.a see pay attention
@@TheFrostySpecial facts 😂 gilbert arenas stay lying😂
He be so dramatic with everything that's really not that big a deal. Talks like everything is just the most amazing thing
I bet you would like to tell something and someone to give a shit about what you say
@Vidoj Stančilović I mean look at the likes and your responding to me brody. Looks like you made my dreams come true