When the death rolls occur, steer slightly to windward to stop them. It has the added bonus of making any loss of control a round up event, not a gybe. lesser of two evils. After the event, Helm is hard across to the port- only increasing the rudder's stall and reducing any chance to recover. All round a good example of what not to do with the helm.
Good advice. the best thing to do factoring all the other variables was to sheet harder and to tighten the tweaker on the kite sheet. We were soaking low to try and get around the bottom mark when a pressure lift caused the death roll. Soaking low would have been faster than rounding up which would have resulted in 2 gybes to get around the mark. It is easy in hindsight, and yes rounding up would have been the safer and faster option compared to this result. Post the death roll the skipper has zero steerage, if you look closely the now leeward running back stay was on tight. This resulted in the main creating windward lift as it was on tight, the rudder was not going to do anything until the pressure was released from the main by letting the runner off. Lot's of lesson to be learned from this one. Thanks for stopping by and for the feedback.
Always easy to be wise after the fact. We've all been there. It didn't help that the poor foredeckie fell over at the most inopportune moment, making an event like this more likely. Those boats are twitchy and once rudder authority is lost there's no getting it back again. Pity about the broken spinnaker pole. Glad nobody got hurt.
@@thethirdman225 if someone told me 30 years ago " doing A will help prevent B" - would have saved heaps of time. Advice and solutions. People often never consider simple solutions that help and sometimes it's so obvious it's hidden...
@@thethirdman225 it's been interesting for us recently as we bounce questions to friends in nearby clubs with much much larger populations. "Oooh, yeah. We don't do it like that. Probably haven't for 20 years" followed by an explanation of current ideas. It can make a huge difference to both safety and performance. I firmly believe in making everyone better. Observations aren't always criticisms. :)
He's is one of the best mast men a skipper could ask for. Takes a soaking when the skipper messes up, hangs on when others would be washed away and never complains for other mistakes.
Pole was sleeved and it took two weeks for bruises on the bow man to fad away. Teaching the cost of a crash can be high but you can always recover from even the biggest wipeouts :)
Only smart guy here is the mid-man, he knows exactly what's about to happen and keeps the woman down so that she can keep her head. Well done.
There was more going wrong than right 😜
When the death rolls occur, steer slightly to windward to stop them. It has the added bonus of making any loss of control a round up event, not a gybe. lesser of two evils.
After the event, Helm is hard across to the port- only increasing the rudder's stall and reducing any chance to recover. All round a good example of what not to do with the helm.
Good advice. the best thing to do factoring all the other variables was to sheet harder and to tighten the tweaker on the kite sheet. We were soaking low to try and get around the bottom mark when a pressure lift caused the death roll. Soaking low would have been faster than rounding up which would have resulted in 2 gybes to get around the mark. It is easy in hindsight, and yes rounding up would have been the safer and faster option compared to this result.
Post the death roll the skipper has zero steerage, if you look closely the now leeward running back stay was on tight. This resulted in the main creating windward lift as it was on tight, the rudder was not going to do anything until the pressure was released from the main by letting the runner off.
Lot's of lesson to be learned from this one. Thanks for stopping by and for the feedback.
Always easy to be wise after the fact. We've all been there. It didn't help that the poor foredeckie fell over at the most inopportune moment, making an event like this more likely. Those boats are twitchy and once rudder authority is lost there's no getting it back again. Pity about the broken spinnaker pole. Glad nobody got hurt.
@@thethirdman225 if someone told me 30 years ago " doing A will help prevent B" - would have saved heaps of time. Advice and solutions. People often never consider simple solutions that help and sometimes it's so obvious it's hidden...
@@itwhite2 Agreed but communication can be a major factor in these things too.
@@thethirdman225 it's been interesting for us recently as we bounce questions to friends in nearby clubs with much much larger populations. "Oooh, yeah. We don't do it like that. Probably haven't for 20 years" followed by an explanation of current ideas. It can make a huge difference to both safety and performance. I firmly believe in making everyone better. Observations aren't always criticisms. :)
Look like kenny had a good time nice and soggy after that
He's is one of the best mast men a skipper could ask for. Takes a soaking when the skipper messes up, hangs on when others would be washed away and never complains for other mistakes.
On order… 1 x spinnaker pole, 1 x new bow crew.
Pole was sleeved and it took two weeks for bruises on the bow man to fad away. Teaching the cost of a crash can be high but you can always recover from even the biggest wipeouts :)
@@BottomUPBoats Maybe not. I was on a boat that sank following an uncontrolled gybe!
@@keithmoorechannel OK you may have just proved me wrong. Hope everyone was safe. It must have been some wipeout.
broach not chinese. no barbers , why this is in youtube.
Isn't a broach when you round up without the boom changing sides ?
Which it clearly did in this video.....
It is on youtube because we uploaded it :)
Maybe first learn sailing
Started to learn at the age of 5 and still learning today. That is one of the great things about our sport.
@@BottomUPBoats same here.